Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

[wwadjourn]

Any Lake Michigan listers interested in a LM meet up?  Pentwater Mi Would 
be central.  So would Wisconsin shore.  Just sayin' we can't let the coasters 
have all the fun!  Bill WalkerEvening StarCnC 36Pentwater, Mi.
Sent from my LG G Pad F™ 8.0, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet


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Re: Stus-List now: tablets with/without GPS

[Marek Dziedzic (hotmail) via CnC-List]

Again splitting hair, but a lot of Android and Windows tablet come with GPS, 
but no cellular radio. An 8” can be had easily for under $300 or even around 
$100 (lately, Costco had one for sale at $99 CAD (Acer 8” Android with GPS 
included)). Only Apple ties the GPS with the cellular radio; most of the other 
vendors don’t.

Older Samsun tablets used a proprietary connector (trying to out-Apple Apple?); 
this is no longer the case. Some tablets use a MicroUSB for charging (5 V, 
usually around 2 A) others, especially the 10-11” ones, use a dedicated power 
plug/port. These latter ones might be tricky on the boat, because they can use 
a different voltage (12 V, 17 V, anything) and this might require a special 
adapter or powering them through an inverter. But there are enough options 
available for tablets powered using the USB (5 V). Keep in mind that if your 
tablet uses the USB port for powering/charging, it may be impossible to connect 
a USB device to it at the same time.

Btw. for those who may not know this, most tablets (and smartphones) with a 
MicroUSB connector (this excludes any iPad)can be used with just about any low 
power USB device. You need a USB2Go cable and that’s it.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: sthoma20--- via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 17:37
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: sthom...@bellnet.ca 
Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS

Only some tablets have cellular network capability, and if they do not, then 
they are not likely to have GPS built in either. I bought a 10 inch Samsung Tab 
2 that has LTE capability, and it does work as a chart plotter, but only as 
good as the software down loaded. Hard to find cables for the Tab 2 by the way. 
The 30 pin connector is not the same as on the I-phone-pad stuff. 

I was disappointed that a tablet with LTE connectivity could not be used as a 
cell phone. That decision by the manufacturers is marketing, and not technical. 
Yeah I know there is Skype etc., but it would be handy to make regular phone 
calls with a headset and a large screen. 

Steve Thomas
C&C36
Merritt Island, FL
 


 Bill Coleman via CnC-List  wrote: 
I was just poking around with an Ipad at Costco this weekend, a big one, at
least 13 inches.  This was not being sold through a Cell company.
I could not find any GPS in the settings.

Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA




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Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

I could throw a C&C Rendezvous here in Colorado, but I suspect mine is the only 
C&C in the state :) 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
SV Grenadine 
C&C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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Any Lake Michigan listers interested in a LM meet up? Pentwater Mi Would be 
central. So would Wisconsin shore. Just sayin' we can't let the coasters have 
all the fun! 

Bill Walker 

Evening Star 

CnC 36 

Pentwater, Mi. 


Sent from my LG G Pad F™ 8.0, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet 

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Re: Stus-List CnC Rendezvous

[Stu via CnC-List]

Or you could have one in Florida between December and April and we would be 
sure to attend.

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Re: Stus-List CnC Rendezvous

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

I'm inJimSEA YA!38 LF


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message 
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Date: 04/05/2016  12:41 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
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Or you could have one in Florida between December and April and we would be 
sure to attend.
 
Stu 
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Re: Stus-List CnC Rendezvous

[William Walker via CnC-List]

For Florida or lake Michigan.  I think I know which. 
Bill Walker
On Apr 5, 2016 1:00 PM, detroito91 via CnC-List  wrote:

I'm inJimSEA YA!38 LFSent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Stu via CnC-List  Date: 04/05/2016  12:41 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stu  Subject: Re: Stus-List CnC Rendezvous 


Or you could have one in Florida between December and April and we would be 
sure to attend.
 
Stu 
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Stus-List Race the Cape currently has 14 entries from Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and 3 (so far) from the USA!

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

I think it is about time I send an update on Race the Cape out to the list.

http://www.racethecape.com

Nova Scotia’s Cape Breton Island is a sailor’s destination. Race the Cape,
a seven-day, 175-nautical mile point-to-point yacht race through Cape
Breton’s famed waterways, is a sailor’s dream.

Following close behind the 8th bi-annual running of the Route Halifax to
St. Pierre Ocean Race on 10 July, 2016, many Eastern seaboard sailors will
be ready for Race the Cape, which starts in St. Peters, Cape Breton on July
18.

http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
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Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

[Lee Rosenbaum via CnC-List]

>
> We have three C&C 33 at Kenosha Yacht Club.
>
There might be some interest.

Lee Rosenbaum
Kookaburra C&C 33 MK2
Kenosha, WI


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> Any Lake Michigan listers interested in a LM meet up? ?Pentwater Mi
> Would be central. ?So would Wisconsin shore. ?Just sayin' we can't let the
> coasters have all the fun! ?Bill WalkerEvening StarCnC 36Pentwater, Mi.
> Sent from my LG G Pad F? 8.0, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet
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Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

[ggambel--- via CnC-List]

Might be interested, depending on when and where it is.
Glenn Gambel
C&C 36, White Lake (Whitehall, MI.)

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 We have three C&C 33 at Kenosha Yacht Club.
   There might be some interest.   
   Lee Rosenbaum   Kookaburra C&C 33 MK2   Kenosha, WI
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 Any Lake Michigan listers interested in a LM meet up? ?Pentwater Mi
Would be central. ?So would Wisconsin shore. ?Just sayin' we can't let
the coasters have all the fun! ?Bill WalkerEvening StarCnC
36Pentwater, Mi.
 Sent from my LG G Pad F? 8.0, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet

 

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Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

HI

I might be interested in coming from the North Channel. A little advertising 
ahead with the other clubs and marinas here might work both for a rendezvous 
and to bring on list folks. 



Don

Don Harben
Viking 34
Life
www.ncyc.ca


> On Apr 5, 2016, at 2:47 PM, ggambel--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Might be interested, depending on when and where it is.
> Glenn Gambel
> C&C 36, White Lake (Whitehall, MI.)
> 
> -
> 
> From: "Lee Rosenbaum via CnC-List" 
> To: 
> Cc: "Lee Rosenbaum"
> Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:58:44 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous
> 
>> We have three C&C 33 at Kenosha Yacht Club.
> There might be some interest.
> 
> Lee Rosenbaum
> Kookaburra C&C 33 MK2
> Kenosha, WI
>  
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>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:02:55 GMT
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>> Subject: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Any Lake Michigan listers interested in a LM meet up? ?Pentwater Mi 
>> Would be central. ?So would Wisconsin shore. ?Just sayin' we can't let the 
>> coasters have all the fun! ?Bill WalkerEvening StarCnC 36Pentwater, Mi.
>> Sent from my LG G Pad F? 8.0, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet
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Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

[schiller via CnC-List]

Depending on when, we could be convinced.  There are at least three 
C&C's on white lake that I know of.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, MI

On 4/5/2016 8:02 AM, wwadjo...@aol.com via CnC-List wrote:


Any Lake Michigan listers interested in a LM meet up?  Pentwater Mi 
Would be central.  So would Wisconsin shore.  Just sayin' we can't let 
the coasters have all the fun!


Bill Walker

Evening Star

CnC 36

Pentwater, Mi.


Sent from my LG G Pad F™ 8.0, an AT&T 4G LTE tablet


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Re: Stus-List LED Nav Lights

[Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List]

We've used LED - Red/Green/White on the top of the mast all LED.  On 
Deck we have Red/Green/Stern and steaming light half way up the mast, all
incandescant (they came with the boat).  We wired it all to a 3 position 
switch - off - Sailing LED lights - Motoring deck incandescant lights.


This ensured that when the engine was running we only needed to flip one 
switch and we would never have both sets of lights operating at

the same time.

--
Cheers,
Jeff Nelson
Muir Caileag
C&C 30
Armdale Y.C.
Halifax

On 4/5/2016 12:23 AM, Rick Rohwer via CnC-List wrote:
When under power you are no longer a sailing vessel.  White Light 
showing 225 over port and starboard running lights.  Just one more tug 
boat.


On Apr 4, 2016, at 19:26, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



Sent from my iPhone


I don’t recall any requirement in the COLREGS that a “Masthead” light 
actually be at the top of a mast. And since the “Masthead light” 
identifies that the boat being observed is a power driven vessel, I 
would be kind of surprised if there was such a requirement.


Sailing Vessels display only red and green bow lights and a 135 
degree white stern light (or, in the alternative a red, green and 
white tricolor light at the top of the tallest mast).


I suppose that’s why sailors like you and I think of the white light 
on the front of the mast as a Steaming Light. We only turn it on when 
we are “steaming” and our sailboat becomes a tall power boat.


The number and positions of the “masthead lights” on a power driven 
vessel are spelled out in the COLREGS and will indicate the length of 
the boat (and fore from aft). I do think they need to be the highest 
lights on display, but I’ve seen masthead lights affixed to a bracket 
on the top of the wheelhouse on a trawler, and to the strut holding 
the radar antenna on a tug, and those don’t count as a masts in my book.


Rick Brass



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Re: Stus-List *****SPAM***** Re: Bluetooth Speakers on Deck

[Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List]

They also fit in the cup holders.  :-)

On 4/4/2016 10:42 AM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote:
Also give a listen to the UE speakers.   They come with a bit of shock 
chord that easily wraps around a pulpit.


John

On Apr 4, 2016, at 8:48 AM, Dreuge via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Have you heard of the Amazon Tap?

It is an Alexa enabled bluetooth speaker with claims of a 9hr battery 
life and can be charged via a USB cable.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VXS8E8S/?ref_=pe_1457740_187773290_ods_em_ha_fx_strt_ecg


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/



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 wrote:


From: Jim Giffing via CnC-List >

To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Jim Giffing mailto:jgiff...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2016 8:18 pm
Subject: Stus-List Bluetooth Speakers on Deck



Anyone have any experience with portable bluetooth speakers on deck?
Been considering mounting one on my stern pulpit,
Want something with long battery life... full day
Will pair it with my iphone which I will likely leave below deck
And care about sound quality with rich bass, etc,


Just wondering --- been googling reviews, but nope found for boats.

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Boat_Sig Cheers,
Jeff Nelson
Muir Caileag
C&C 30
Armdale Y.C.
Halifax
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Re: Stus-List Ball Caps

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

I just got a '4imprint' catalog at work. I've probably tossed a couple dozen of 
these in the recycle but this time I thought ... C&C caps?  

Good looking 2-tone ('wave' of colour on the bill) cap including embroidery 
with no tape setup charge is:

$8.75 ea for 36
$7.95 ea for 72
$6.95 ea for 144
$6.50 ea for 288
$5.76 ea for 576

Cheaper single-colour option is on sale until 15 May:

$7.25 ea for 48
$6.75 ea for 72
$5.50 ea for 144
$4.95 ea for 288
$4.50 ea for 676

Set-up tape charge of $35 for 72 pieces or less

All prices in $CAD

They will send you free samples

www.4imprint.ca 

Not sure how those prices compare with others. 

Looks like they might be based in Windsor (it’s just listed as a PO Box number 
... so it’s probably actually serviced out of Detroit).

I’ve sail before and I’m still thinking that bulk shipment to ‘regional’ reps 
would be the cheapest for final distribution and that rep could hit the local 
C&C Rendezvous.

Next year you approach places like HMP to take some items to the Toronto Boat 
show on the groups behalf or let a rep use a corner of their booth and perhaps 
Shoreline as well (since both still have some C&C parts stock) ? Other areas 
could approach their local suppliers that cater to the sailboat crowd to do 
same.

I would highly suspect that water bottles and coffee mugs would be a good 
seller too.

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII

-Original Message- 
From: Stu via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:41 AM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Ball Caps 

Seveeral months ago we stopped selling the Ball Caps and for several good
reasons.

Gladys, the embroidery queen, wore out her $2000 sewing machine and could
not justify replacing it.  I learned quite a few new words when she was
sewing the caps.

We were purchasing decent hats wholesale and the company dropped the line
and introduced a new line at almost twice the cost.

The Post Office increased the cost of shipping.  Shipping to the USA went
from $5.00 to almost $8.00.  To ship in Canada to the west coast it was
over $14.00.  Even having a commercial account with Canada Post, the costs
were outrageous.  Fedex, UPS and others out completely out of the picture.

Every time the costs went up, I tried to absorb it but eventually it was
costing us and Gladys got nothing for her frustrations.

I'll pursue the matter this summer and see if we can get a commercial
company to make the hats for us at a reasonable cost and see if there is a
shipping method that is affordable.

Now if you have someone who can handle a needle and thread, Gladys is
still doing the embroidered C&C patches on another machine.  Get yourself
a hat and have someone sew the patch on for you.

I'll certainly look into the possibility of getting the hats back online.

Stu


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Re: Stus-List now: tablets with/without GPS

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I've bought some "major brand" remanufactured 10 inch tablets in the last
few months for less than $100 each.  When we peeled the little stickers
off, they were HP10's.  Navionics seems to work fine on them.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Apr 5, 2016 9:48 AM, "Marek Dziedzic (hotmail) via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Again splitting hair, but a lot of Android and Windows tablet come with
> GPS, but no cellular radio. An 8” can be had easily for under $300 or even
> around $100 (lately, Costco had one for sale at $99 CAD (Acer 8” Android
> with GPS included)). Only Apple ties the GPS with the cellular radio; most
> of the other vendors don’t.
>
> Older Samsun tablets used a proprietary connector (trying to out-Apple
> Apple?); this is no longer the case. Some tablets use a MicroUSB for
> charging (5 V, usually around 2 A) others, especially the 10-11” ones, use
> a dedicated power plug/port. These latter ones might be tricky on the boat,
> because they can use a different voltage (12 V, 17 V, anything) and this
> might require a special adapter or powering them through an inverter. But
> there are enough options available for tablets powered using the USB (5 V).
> Keep in mind that if your tablet uses the USB port for powering/charging,
> it may be impossible to connect a USB device to it at the same time.
>
> Btw. for those who may not know this, most tablets (and smartphones) with
> a MicroUSB connector (this excludes any iPad)can be used with just about
> any low power USB device. You need a USB2Go cable and that’s it.
>
> Marek
> Ottawa, ON
>
> *From:* sthoma20--- via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, April 4, 2016 17:37
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* sthom...@bellnet.ca
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List GPS
>
> Only some tablets have cellular network capability, and if they do not,
> then they are not likely to have GPS built in either. I bought a 10 inch
> Samsung Tab 2 that has LTE capability, and it does work as a chart plotter,
> but only as good as the software down loaded. Hard to find cables for the
> Tab 2 by the way. The 30 pin connector is not the same as on the
> I-phone-pad stuff.
>
> I was disappointed that a tablet with LTE connectivity could not be used
> as a cell phone. That decision by the manufacturers is marketing, and not
> technical. Yeah I know there is Skype etc., but it would be handy to make
> regular phone calls with a headset and a large screen.
>
> Steve Thomas
> C&C36
> Merritt Island, FL
>
>
>
>  Bill Coleman via CnC-List  wrote:
> I was just poking around with an Ipad at Costco this weekend, a big one, at
> least 13 inches.  This was not being sold through a Cell company.
> I could not find any GPS in the settings.
>
> Bill Coleman
> C&C 39 Erie, PA
>
>
>
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Stus-List Ball Caps

[Stu via CnC-List]

My arrangement with C&C Yachts was that any logoed items MUST be sold on the 
Photo Album and not in Yacht Clubs, fairs or trade shows or any other venue.  
Joe Bognar, who was looking after the T-shirts got stopped at the National 
Yacht Club in Toronto during a C&C Regatta.

It all has to do with copyright laws and rules.  Even though C&C has adopted a 
new logo, the still own the copyright to the old one.

If you can find an embroidery company that will do the hats without copyright 
permission, you could probably get a few made for personal use.  Just don’t get 
caught selling them for a profit.

If someone wants to take on this venture, pay for the hats and setup fee, I 
will put them on the Photo Album and send you each order once payment has been 
received.  Then I will send you the money (less a bit for the Photo Album).

In the past we found shipping from Canada to Canada could cost upwards of $14.  
From Canada to anywhere in USA runs just over $6.00.  If you get small 
re-cycled boxes for $.25 each, you can probably get up to 5 in a box and 
shipping is the same.

If you want to sell the hats, let me know off the lists and we can work out the 
details.

Stu
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Re: Stus-List Ball Caps

[Indigo via CnC-List]

I have used Queensboro Shirts for custom embroidery many times. They do a free 
logo set up, supposedly for only the first one but have never charged me for 
changes or new logos. Their products are great quality - embroidery outstanding 
- and best of all have a 4 item minimum - and can be 4 different garments / 
hats etc.   They also have a service that allows clubs etc to set up a "store" 
- allowing members to order items - and allow the club to get a cut - might be 
worth a look to set something up on the c&cphotoalbum. 

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 17:48, Peter Fell via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I just got a '4imprint' catalog at work. I've probably tossed a couple dozen 
> of these in the recycle but this time I thought ... C&C caps? 
>  
> Good looking 2-tone ('wave' of colour on the bill) cap including embroidery 
> with no tape setup charge is:
>  
> $8.75 ea for 36
> $7.95 ea for 72
> $6.95 ea for 144
> $6.50 ea for 288
> $5.76 ea for 576
>  
> Cheaper single-colour option is on sale until 15 May:
>  
> $7.25 ea for 48
> $6.75 ea for 72
> $5.50 ea for 144
> $4.95 ea for 288
> $4.50 ea for 676
>  
> Set-up tape charge of $35 for 72 pieces or less
>  
> All prices in $CAD
>  
> They will send you free samples
>  
> www.4imprint.ca
>  
> Not sure how those prices compare with others.
>  
> Looks like they might be based in Windsor (it’s just listed as a PO Box 
> number ... so it’s probably actually serviced out of Detroit).
>  
> I’ve sail before and I’m still thinking that bulk shipment to ‘regional’ reps 
> would be the cheapest for final distribution and that rep could hit the local 
> C&C Rendezvous.
>  
> Next year you approach places like HMP to take some items to the Toronto Boat 
> show on the groups behalf or let a rep use a corner of their booth and 
> perhaps Shoreline as well (since both still have some C&C parts stock) ? 
> Other areas could approach their local suppliers that cater to the sailboat 
> crowd to do same.
>  
> I would highly suspect that water bottles and coffee mugs would be a good 
> seller too.
>  
> Peter Fell
> Sidney, BC
> Cygnet
> C&C 27 MkIII
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Stu via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:41 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Ball Caps
>  
> Seveeral months ago we stopped selling the Ball Caps and for several good
> reasons.
>  
> Gladys, the embroidery queen, wore out her $2000 sewing machine and could
> not justify replacing it.  I learned quite a few new words when she was
> sewing the caps.
>  
> We were purchasing decent hats wholesale and the company dropped the line
> and introduced a new line at almost twice the cost.
>  
> The Post Office increased the cost of shipping.  Shipping to the USA went
> from $5.00 to almost $8.00.  To ship in Canada to the west coast it was
> over $14.00.  Even having a commercial account with Canada Post, the costs
> were outrageous.  Fedex, UPS and others out completely out of the picture.
>  
> Every time the costs went up, I tried to absorb it but eventually it was
> costing us and Gladys got nothing for her frustrations.
>  
> I'll pursue the matter this summer and see if we can get a commercial
> company to make the hats for us at a reasonable cost and see if there is a
> shipping method that is affordable.
>  
> Now if you have someone who can handle a needle and thread, Gladys is
> still doing the embroidered C&C patches on another machine.  Get yourself
> a hat and have someone sew the patch on for you.
>  
> I'll certainly look into the possibility of getting the hats back online.
>  
> Stu
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Re: Stus-List CnC Rendezvous

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Pensacola???  Early April works for me.

How about Biloxi, MS?  Point Cadet Marina and the Golden Nugget Casino and
hotel?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Apr 5, 2016 11:42 AM, "Stu via CnC-List"  wrote:

> Or you could have one in Florida between December and April and we would
> be sure to attend.
>
> Stu
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Re: Stus-List CnC Rendezvous

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

... I have a 10,000 lb trailer for sale enabling having your C&C at multiple 
rendevous's


Don

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Stus-List Automatic Charging Relay

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

So while connecting batteries today i discovered, to my surprise, that Paws has 
an automatic charging relay between the two battery banks.  Yes, I’m still 
learning this boat.  So as I understand it, once voltage hits 13.6 volts (or 
13.0 for 2 minutes) the relay will automatically combine the two banks to share 
the changing source.  Not sure how I feel about that.

On the plus side, I guess it’s great that I don’t have to worry about moving a 
battery selector switch while the engine is running.  On the down side - 

How does a battery charger monitoring two banks handle this?  I just seems it 
has to screw up the logic on the charger.
Essentially there is no way to isolate charging?  So if I know I only have 
limited time to charge and want to concentrate on one bank I have no choice?  

What I missing?

John


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Re: Stus-List CnC Rendezvous

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Creative idea.  I like it.  Good one, Don.

Dennis C.
On Apr 5, 2016 7:33 PM, "Don Harben via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> ... I have a 10,000 lb trailer for sale enabling having your C&C at
> multiple rendevous's
>
>
> Don
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Re: Stus-List Automatic Charging Relay

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Hi John,
 I've had ACRs on my boats for the last 15 years and I think they are
one of the best upgrades you can do.  When I bought "Kaylarah" (formerly
"High Maintenance",adding and ACR was one of my first upgrades.  They are
usually wired to charge the house bank first, then the start bank.  If your
start bank was very low, you could could still use a combine switch to get
the engine started.  I have never had a problem with the ACRs and I can't
say the same about a 1-BOTH-2 switch.  All you have to do is forget to
switch to 1 or 2 after you shut the engine off and you can kill both
batteries while sitting on a hook.  That won't happen with and ACR.  I
think you will come to like them.

Fair winds,
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:38 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So while connecting batteries today i discovered, to my surprise, that
> Paws has an automatic charging relay between the two battery banks.  Yes,
> I’m still learning this boat.  So as I understand it, once voltage hits
> 13.6 volts (or 13.0 for 2 minutes) the relay will automatically combine the
> two banks to share the changing source.  Not sure how I feel about that.
>
> On the plus side, I guess it’s great that I don’t have to worry about
> moving a battery selector switch while the engine is running.  On the down
> side -
>
> How does a battery charger monitoring two banks handle this?  I just seems
> it has to screw up the logic on the charger.
> Essentially there is no way to isolate charging?  So if I know I only have
> limited time to charge and want to concentrate on one bank I have no choice?
>
> What I missing?
>
> John
>
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Re: Stus-List Automatic Charging Relay

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

Thanks Gary.  I get that and I suppose it certainly simplifies the wiring - you 
essentially have one bank for charging purposes.  No opinion at this point 
although I do feel silly having spent the last year dutifully switching between 
1-both -2.  I assume it’s just a relay that connects the circuit at a set 
voltage.  Not sure how it can be smart enough to determine which bank to charge 
first but perhaps they are more than just a relay.

John

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
>  I've had ACRs on my boats for the last 15 years and I think they are one 
> of the best upgrades you can do.  When I bought "Kaylarah" (formerly "High 
> Maintenance",adding and ACR was one of my first upgrades.  They are usually 
> wired to charge the house bank first, then the start bank.  If your start 
> bank was very low, you could could still use a combine switch to get the 
> engine started.  I have never had a problem with the ACRs and I can't say the 
> same about a 1-BOTH-2 switch.  All you have to do is forget to switch to 1 or 
> 2 after you shut the engine off and you can kill both batteries while sitting 
> on a hook.  That won't happen with and ACR.  I think you will come to like 
> them.
> 
> Fair winds,
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C&C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
> 
> ~~~_/)~~
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:38 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> So while connecting batteries today i discovered, to my surprise, that Paws 
> has an automatic charging relay between the two battery banks.  Yes, I’m 
> still learning this boat.  So as I understand it, once voltage hits 13.6 
> volts (or 13.0 for 2 minutes) the relay will automatically combine the two 
> banks to share the changing source.  Not sure how I feel about that.
> 
> On the plus side, I guess it’s great that I don’t have to worry about moving 
> a battery selector switch while the engine is running.  On the down side -
> 
> How does a battery charger monitoring two banks handle this?  I just seems it 
> has to screw up the logic on the charger.
> Essentially there is no way to isolate charging?  So if I know I only have 
> limited time to charge and want to concentrate on one bank I have no choice?
> 
> What I missing?
> 
> John
> 
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Re: Stus-List Automatic Charging Relay

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Easy answer, disconnect the second bank from the charger.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Apr 5, 2016 8:39 PM, "John Pennie via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> So while connecting batteries today i discovered, to my surprise, that
> Paws has an automatic charging relay between the two battery banks.  Yes,
> I’m still learning this boat.  So as I understand it, once voltage hits
> 13.6 volts (or 13.0 for 2 minutes) the relay will automatically combine the
> two banks to share the changing source.  Not sure how I feel about that.
>
> On the plus side, I guess it’s great that I don’t have to worry about
> moving a battery selector switch while the engine is running.  On the down
> side -
>
> How does a battery charger monitoring two banks handle this?  I just seems
> it has to screw up the logic on the charger.
> Essentially there is no way to isolate charging?  So if I know I only have
> limited time to charge and want to concentrate on one bank I have no choice?
>
> What I missing?
>
> John
>
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Re: Stus-List Automatic Charging Relay

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

It's not "smart" it always starts charging the "primary" bank first.  Once
the primary battery is full (ish) it combines the second battery.

Josh
On Apr 5, 2016 9:50 PM, "John Pennie via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Thanks Gary.  I get that and I suppose it certainly simplifies the wiring
> - you essentially have one bank for charging purposes.  No opinion at this
> point although I do feel silly having spent the last year dutifully
> switching between 1-both -2.  I assume it’s just a relay that connects the
> circuit at a set voltage.  Not sure how it can be smart enough to determine
> which bank to charge first but perhaps they are more than just a relay.
>
> John
>
> On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:13 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>  I've had ACRs on my boats for the last 15 years and I think they are
> one of the best upgrades you can do.  When I bought "Kaylarah" (formerly
> "High Maintenance",adding and ACR was one of my first upgrades.  They are
> usually wired to charge the house bank first, then the start bank.  If your
> start bank was very low, you could could still use a combine switch to get
> the engine started.  I have never had a problem with the ACRs and I can't
> say the same about a 1-BOTH-2 switch.  All you have to do is forget to
> switch to 1 or 2 after you shut the engine off and you can kill both
> batteries while sitting on a hook.  That won't happen with and ACR.  I
> think you will come to like them.
>
> Fair winds,
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C&C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:38 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> So while connecting batteries today i discovered, to my surprise, that
>> Paws has an automatic charging relay between the two battery banks.  Yes,
>> I’m still learning this boat.  So as I understand it, once voltage hits
>> 13.6 volts (or 13.0 for 2 minutes) the relay will automatically combine the
>> two banks to share the changing source.  Not sure how I feel about that.
>>
>> On the plus side, I guess it’s great that I don’t have to worry about
>> moving a battery selector switch while the engine is running.  On the down
>> side -
>>
>> How does a battery charger monitoring two banks handle this?  I just
>> seems it has to screw up the logic on the charger.
>> Essentially there is no way to isolate charging?  So if I know I only
>> have limited time to charge and want to concentrate on one bank I have no
>> choice?
>>
>> What I missing?
>>
>> John
>>
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Re: Stus-List CnC Rendezvous

[Richard via CnC-List]

I second any or all of the above...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Pensacola???  Early April works for me.
> 
> How about Biloxi, MS?  Point Cadet Marina and the Golden Nugget Casino and 
> hotel?
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>> On Apr 5, 2016 11:42 AM, "Stu via CnC-List"  wrote:
>> Or you could have one in Florida between December and April and we would be 
>> sure to attend.
>>  
>> Stu
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Re: Stus-List Ball Caps

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

As long as you are not profiting from the sale of the logo you can use and
make the logos on anything and pretty much anywhere.  I'm pretty sure its
referred to as "free use".

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Apr 5, 2016 7:47 PM, "Stu via CnC-List"  wrote:

> My arrangement with C&C Yachts was that any logoed items MUST be sold on
> the Photo Album and not in Yacht Clubs, fairs or trade shows or any other
> venue.  Joe Bognar, who was looking after the T-shirts got stopped at the
> National Yacht Club in Toronto during a C&C Regatta.
>
> It all has to do with copyright laws and rules.  Even though C&C has
> adopted a new logo, the still own the copyright to the old one.
>
> If you can find an embroidery company that will do the hats without
> copyright permission, you could probably get a few made for personal use.
> Just don’t get caught selling them for a profit.
>
> If someone wants to take on this venture, pay for the hats and setup fee,
> I will put them on the Photo Album and send you each order once payment has
> been received.  Then I will send you the money (less a bit for the Photo
> Album).
>
> In the past we found shipping from Canada to Canada could cost upwards of
> $14.  From Canada to anywhere in USA runs just over $6.00.  If you get
> small re-cycled boxes for $.25 each, you can probably get up to 5 in a box
> and shipping is the same.
>
> If you want to sell the hats, let me know off the lists and we can work
> out the details.
>
> Stu
> p.s. I do not want to get involved in the cost of the hats or the
> shipping.
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Re: Stus-List Ball Caps

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Sorry it's called "fair use".  Your use can't be profitable, can't diminish
value (defame), and can't diminish profit (steal customers).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Josh
On Apr 5, 2016 11:17 PM, "Josh Muckley"  wrote:

> As long as you are not profiting from the sale of the logo you can use and
> make the logos on anything and pretty much anywhere.  I'm pretty sure its
> referred to as "free use".
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Apr 5, 2016 7:47 PM, "Stu via CnC-List"  wrote:
>
>> My arrangement with C&C Yachts was that any logoed items MUST be sold on
>> the Photo Album and not in Yacht Clubs, fairs or trade shows or any other
>> venue.  Joe Bognar, who was looking after the T-shirts got stopped at the
>> National Yacht Club in Toronto during a C&C Regatta.
>>
>> It all has to do with copyright laws and rules.  Even though C&C has
>> adopted a new logo, the still own the copyright to the old one.
>>
>> If you can find an embroidery company that will do the hats without
>> copyright permission, you could probably get a few made for personal use.
>> Just don’t get caught selling them for a profit.
>>
>> If someone wants to take on this venture, pay for the hats and setup fee,
>> I will put them on the Photo Album and send you each order once payment has
>> been received.  Then I will send you the money (less a bit for the Photo
>> Album).
>>
>> In the past we found shipping from Canada to Canada could cost upwards of
>> $14.  From Canada to anywhere in USA runs just over $6.00.  If you get
>> small re-cycled boxes for $.25 each, you can probably get up to 5 in a box
>> and shipping is the same.
>>
>> If you want to sell the hats, let me know off the lists and we can work
>> out the details.
>>
>> Stu
>> p.s. I do not want to get involved in the cost of the hats or the
>> shipping.
>>
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