Re: Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I thought they looked pretty cool when Defender first started selling them. But 
my observation is that the big benefit of the 4 speeds is getting the sheet in 
quickly when you tack. The biggest power ratio available is 52 – which Defender 
sells for about the same price as a Lewmar EVO65ST. Didn’t look like a very 
good value for my boat and sailing style.

 

But then, if you get the line in fast enough, before the boat gets on the wind 
and the sail loads up, you might not need to grind the sail in under load and 
could get by with a smaller winch.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bob 
McLaughlin via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bob McLaughlin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII

 

The August issue of Practical Sailor has a review on winches. The new 4-speed 
winches from Pontos sound very interesting, up to 18:1 gear ratio, well more 
than twice any others.  

 

Bob McLaughlin

C&C 110 "Blue Devil"


On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Rjcasciato via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hoping there is some help and advice out there among the group.

 

I’m going to replace my primary winches on Impromptu over the winter.  
Currently, I have a pair of Barient 38ST’s.  While I think it would be nice to 
try a 3 speed…….I’m sure that price is prohibitive.

 

So given the size of the current winches.who has had some good experience 
with other manufacturers and keeping value in mind, any recommendations.

 

The boat is used primarily for PHRF racing………but like most of , the crew is 
aging gracefully………..and I’d like to keep it that way.

 

Thanks for your input and insight.

 

Ron C.

Impromptu

C&C 38MKIIC…..’77

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Re: Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Some of the winches in the PS article shifted speed automatically!  How
cool!  I get the 2 speed winches and I assumed 3 speed had a button or
clutch or something. When I heard 4 speed I thought, "Well now that's just
silly.". That was until they explained the auto function!  I can't justify
new winches but boy if I could...

Are you replacing because of a problem?  Many things on a winch can be
repaired and if not ebay regularly has all manner of winches for sale.  If
you're looking to make the work easier then you might just consider longer
handles.  They are cheap by comparison.  Changing so you can have
self-tailers?  Get the winch mates.  Changing because you feel like it?
Since there is no problem with what you have nothing will be cost
effective, go all out and get the 4 speed autos.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 25, 2016 11:09 PM, "Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The August issue of Practical Sailor has a review on winches. The new
> 4-speed winches from Pontos sound very interesting, up to 18:1 gear ratio,
> well more than twice any others.
>
> Bob McLaughlin
> C&C 110 "Blue Devil"
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Rjcasciato via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hoping there is some help and advice out there among the group.
>
>
>
> I’m going to replace my primary winches on Impromptu over the winter.
> Currently, I have a pair of Barient 38ST’s.  While I think it would be nice
> to try a 3 speed…….I’m sure that price is prohibitive.
>
>
>
> So given the size of the current winches.who has had some good
> experience with other manufacturers and keeping value in mind, any
> recommendations.
>
>
>
> The boat is used primarily for PHRF racing………but like most of , the crew
> is aging gracefully………..and I’d like to keep it that way.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your input and insight.
>
>
>
> Ron C.
>
> Impromptu
>
> C&C 38MKIIC…..’77
>
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Re: Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

38ST's? Those must be huge.

 

I replaced the old Merriman 33 primaries on Imzadi with Barient 32s
(equivalent to Anderson/Lewmar/Harken 58 or 56), and I'm in the process of
upgrading to 32ST's to make single handing easier. 

 

But even with these big winches cranking in the 155 was a chore. The 135
headsail I now use is easier, but I can't imagine that I would want anything
smaller unless I was limiting the size of the headsail to 100 or 110 and not
going out in winds of 20 apparent or more. 

 

I've tried using the Barient 28 secondaries (equivalent to Harken 52s) to
trim the headsail a few times. The bigger winched are noticeably easier.

 

Harken recommends a formula based on sail area to calculate the target power
ratio of new winches. Based on a 400 sq. ft. headsail (100% on our boats)
and a pull of 35 pounds on the winch handle, Harken 68's are the right size
for our boats. My 135 is 562 sq. ft., which means the load on the end of the
winch handle can be as high as 60 pounds with my current winches. I'd
definitely stick with the big winches.

 

So why are you replacing your big winches? Are they worn out beyond
redemption?

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

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Rjcasciato via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rjcasciato 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII

 

Hoping there is some help and advice out there among the group.

 

I'm going to replace my primary winches on Impromptu over the winter.
Currently, I have a pair of Barient 38ST's.  While I think it would be nice
to try a 3 speed...I'm sure that price is prohibitive.

 

So given the size of the current winches.who has had some good
experience with other manufacturers and keeping value in mind, any
recommendations.

 

The boat is used primarily for PHRF racing...but like most of , the crew is
aging gracefully.and I'd like to keep it that way.

 

Thanks for your input and insight.

 

Ron C.

Impromptu

C&C 38MKIIC...'77

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Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

[Bruno Mannsberger via CnC-List]

Yes she is a very nice boat. Like any boat, there are definitely things that 
need to be done. Speaking of which, the Britt Chance keel is due to be repaired 
next winter. Thanks for the note about the archived drawings, I was not aware 
of them, I will definitely look them up since we are slowly restoring her, with 
the hopes of getting her back into a racing condition. If anyone knows any of 
her history, I would appreciate it.

Bruno Mannsberger
Wave Train | C&C 37/40R
Ladysmith, BC

From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Sent: August 25, 2016 10:29 AM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Ken Heaton
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

Kevin,

You should see what the keel on Wave Train looks like, a Britt Chance
designed racing bulb keel (aluminum & lead), one of a kind.

Actually, this boat was extensively customized at the factory for the first
owner during the initial build.  Things like heavier bulkheads, all tabbed
to the overhead (coach roof), a different layout inside, and so on.

The Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston has blueprints specific to
this custom "Wave Train" 37R in its archives showing the modifications
requested by the first owner, Prof. Watt E. Webb.

Ken H.



On 25 August 2016 at 13:10, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I googled Bruno's 37/40R (as the 37/40xl is a "maybe someday" boat for us)
> and this is what I came up with: http://www.phrfne.org/html/boats/cc37.htm
>  It's a briefing on ratings for 37/40's.
>
> The very last line is this:
>
> "Be careful with a boat called *WAVE TRAIN*. Just about everything is 
> different with this
> boat."
>
> Sounds like you have a special boat Bruno!
>
> KD
> 30-2
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:01 AM Bruno Mannsberger via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> On ours, there is a through deck block that is inset within the boom so
>> that the exit of the block lines up just below the centre of the boom. The
>> main sheet is protected from the boom cut out by a stainless steel guard
>> that is shown in the picture. Chaffing is a definite possibility based on
>> the design.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruno Mannsberger
>>
>> C&C37/40 R
>>
>> Wave Train
>>
>> Ladysmith BC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>> *Sent: *August 25, 2016 7:33 AM
>> *To: *C&C List 
>> *Cc: *Josh Muckley 
>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40
>>
>>
>>
>> Evidently not the same on all 37+ or 37/40s.  Mine doesn't look anything
>> like that.  I can't quite tell from the picture where the chafe is
>> occurring but it kinda looks like the entry box (the place where it enters
>> the boom on the right side of the picture) is missing a sheave.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Aug 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Brian Fry via CnC-List" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> My mainsheet enters the boom and is chafing at the entry point. There is
>> another small block aft the pulls on the main sheet and seems to be causing
>> The chafe. Is this standard on other C&Cs?
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/tLfmXHf.jpg
>>
>> Brian Fry
>> La Neige
>> Havre de Grace MD
>>
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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36 - now also landfall 38

[svpegasus38]

Wally has been cruising his LF38 for many years. I like mine very 
comfortable. So I am voting on th LF38 also. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 #4just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Date: Thu, Aug 25, 
2016 13:44To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Ryan Doyle;Subject:Re: Stus-List 
Possible upgrade to a C&C 36 - now also landfall 38
Thanks guys.  The wife is actually focusing in on Landfall 38's, but they are 
pricier.  Although, they do seem better suited to cruising.  Regarding draft - 
my home port is on the Barnegat Bay where when you tell people you have a 5' 
draft they say "oh wow... so you a deep draft boat..."  I've survived with a 5' 
draft long enough though, and the landfall 38 is 4'11".  Every inch helps on 
the barnegat!Going to take a hard look now at the landfall 35 and 38 as well..  
Thanks guys. Sent from my iPhone> On Aug 25, 2016, at 4:33 PM, 
cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:> > Re:  Possible upgrade to a C&C 
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Re: Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII

[Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List]

The August issue of Practical Sailor has a review on winches. The new 4-speed 
winches from Pontos sound very interesting, up to 18:1 gear ratio, well more 
than twice any others.  

Bob McLaughlin
C&C 110 "Blue Devil"


> On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Rjcasciato via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hoping there is some help and advice out there among the group.
>  
> I’m going to replace my primary winches on Impromptu over the winter.  
> Currently, I have a pair of Barient 38ST’s.  While I think it would be nice 
> to try a 3 speed…….I’m sure that price is prohibitive.
>  
> So given the size of the current winches.who has had some good experience 
> with other manufacturers and keeping value in mind, any recommendations.
>  
> The boat is used primarily for PHRF racing………but like most of , the crew is 
> aging gracefully………..and I’d like to keep it that way.
>  
> Thanks for your input and insight.
>  
> Ron C.
> Impromptu
> C&C 38MKIIC…..’77
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Re: Stus-List New Subject. Winch replacement for a C&C 38MKII

[Rjcasciato via CnC-List]

Hoping there is some help and advice out there among the group.

 

I'm going to replace my primary winches on Impromptu over the winter.
Currently, I have a pair of Barient 38ST's.  While I think it would be nice
to try a 3 speed...I'm sure that price is prohibitive.

 

So given the size of the current winches.who has had some good
experience with other manufacturers and keeping value in mind, any
recommendations.

 

The boat is used primarily for PHRF racing...but like most of , the crew is
aging gracefully.and I'd like to keep it that way.

 

Thanks for your input and insight.

 

Ron C.

Impromptu

C&C 38MKIIC...'77

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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I would disagree. C&C has been through enough changes that I would not say they 
have a graph of quality heading only upwards*. It would not take long to find 
older boat X better than newer boat Y. Besides for that, the boats are old 
enough to have had very different lives.

 

* remember that as of 1970, blisters were a thing that had not yet happened

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com  

Coquina

C&C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Syerdave--- 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:17 PM
To: C&c Stus List 
Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

 

No opinion on model other than to pass on the advice I received from a local 
surveyor (ex C&c foreman- I live in C&c land). "Buy the newest boat you can 
afford, the got better over time".   I started looking at corvettes, 35 mk1 and 
2, and ended up with a 33mkii.  The older boats are classics, and great, but 3 
years later i think  it was good advice. 





Dave





Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:35:08 -0400
From: Ryan Doyle mailto:ryanpdo...@gmail.com> >
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Subject: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36
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Hey everyone,

So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ, and we 
love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're considering 
taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're ***possibly*** 
looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard to restore and move 
up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft and some nicer amenities.

I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36.  Ticks a lot of boxes for us... Shallow 
draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.

I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here.  Anyone have anything to say about 
this boat good or bad?  Any advice if I go up to look at her?  She definitely 
appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain with good bones 
that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.

Thanks in advance,
Ryan

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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[tom via CnC-List]

Ryan,
There will be a well kept long time owned 35-3 available later next year.
The skipper is retiring and moving to California to be with family.
Currently located in central NJ. The draft may not be ideal for you but the
boat is excellent. Let me know if interested.
Tom
33-1
Carry On

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ, and
> we love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're
> considering taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're
> ***possibly*** looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard
> to restore and move up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft
> and some nicer amenities.
>
> I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36.  Ticks a lot of boxes for us...
> Shallow draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.
>
> I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here.  Anyone have anything to say
> about this boat good or bad?  Any advice if I go up to look at her?  She
> definitely appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain with
> good bones that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ryan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36 - now also landfall 38

[Ryan Doyle via CnC-List]

Thanks Joe.  Yeah I'm going to be very concerned about the motor on any new to 
us boat.  I've been spoiled **knock on wood**. My 40 year old fwc Atomic 4 on 
my 30-1 has not once given us an issue, while I've seen some slip neighbors 
with 5 year old yanmars get stranded **knock on wood again**.  It seems to me 
keeping a sailboat engine running smoothly is a combination of maintenance and 
luck.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Joe Della Barba  wrote:
> 
> The reason we were able to buy Coquina was the previous owners moved to
> Barnegat Bay and got a C&C Corvette for shallower draft.
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1054
> 
> btw - beware of "it's a diesel, it must be good". The boats are old enough
> now that you can get a diesel engine on its last mile just as easy as an
> Atomic 4 with raw water cooling rusted 99% of the way out.
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> j...@dellabarba.com
> 
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
> Doyle via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:44 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Ryan Doyle 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36 - now also landfall 38
> 
> Thanks guys.  The wife is actually focusing in on Landfall 38's, but they
> are pricier.  Although, they do seem better suited to cruising.  
> 
> Regarding draft - my home port is on the Barnegat Bay where when you tell
> people you have a 5' draft they say "oh wow... so you a deep draft boat..."
> I've survived with a 5' draft long enough though, and the landfall 38 is
> 4'11".  Every inch helps on the barnegat!
> 
> Going to take a hard look now at the landfall 35 and 38 as well..  Thanks
> guys. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 4:33 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>> 
>> Re:  Possible upgrade to a C&C 36
> 
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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Ryan,
  I have owned a 1981 CnC  36 for 6 summers.  My first CnC.  I am very pleased 
with my boat, a fresh water local.  It has won our club championship 3 out of 5 
years, 2nd other two. 
   My keel looks very different as does my rudder. I draw 5' 9".  
   I am sure Fred is right that the numbers say it is more tender than some 
others, but I have never felt it is too tender.  reef and sail below 20* heel 
angle.  
   I sail Lake Michigan and have had her out in 30 and big waves never felt 
unsafe in this boat.
  I paid a lot more for mine, but have full set of high tech race sails, 6 
spinnaker and assortment of weird sails
  Just do your due diligence.  Feel free to contact off list.  
Bill Walker 
CnC  36
Pentwater, Michigan

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

On Thursday, August 25, 2016 Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  
wrote:
And here is the link Sorry! 
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-36-2972935/Tremont/ME/United-States#.V78rN_T3anN

Sent from my iPhone

> 

On Aug 25, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Ryan Doyle  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ, and we 
> love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're considering 
> taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're ***possibly*** 
> looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard to restore and 
> move up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft and some nicer 
> amenities.
> 
> I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36. Ticks a lot of boxes for us... Shallow 
> draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.
> 
> I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here. Anyone have anything to say 
> about this boat good or bad? Any advice if I go up to look at her? She 
> definitely appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain with 
> good bones that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Ryan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[Syerdave--- via CnC-List]

No opinion on model other than to pass on the advice I received from a local 
surveyor (ex C&c foreman- I live in C&c land). "Buy the newest boat you can 
afford, the got better over time".   I started looking at corvettes, 35 mk1 and 
2, and ended up with a 33mkii.  The older boats are classics, and great, but 3 
years later i think  it was good advice. 

Dave

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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:35:08 -0400
From: Ryan Doyle 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii

Hey everyone,

So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ, and we 
love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're considering 
taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're ***possibly*** 
looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard to restore and move 
up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft and some nicer amenities.

I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36.  Ticks a lot of boxes for us... Shallow 
draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.

I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here.  Anyone have anything to say about 
this boat good or bad?  Any advice if I go up to look at her?  She definitely 
appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain with good bones 
that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.

Thanks in advance,
Ryan
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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36 - now also landfall 38

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

The reason we were able to buy Coquina was the previous owners moved to
Barnegat Bay and got a C&C Corvette for shallower draft.
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1054

btw - beware of "it's a diesel, it must be good". The boats are old enough
now that you can get a diesel engine on its last mile just as easy as an
Atomic 4 with raw water cooling rusted 99% of the way out.

Joe Della Barba
j...@dellabarba.com

Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Doyle via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ryan Doyle 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36 - now also landfall 38

Thanks guys.  The wife is actually focusing in on Landfall 38's, but they
are pricier.  Although, they do seem better suited to cruising.  

Regarding draft - my home port is on the Barnegat Bay where when you tell
people you have a 5' draft they say "oh wow... so you a deep draft boat..."
I've survived with a 5' draft long enough though, and the landfall 38 is
4'11".  Every inch helps on the barnegat!

Going to take a hard look now at the landfall 35 and 38 as well..  Thanks
guys. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 4:33 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Re:  Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[Damian Greene via CnC-List]

Ryan,I see you're widening your search. If you're still interested in the 36, I 
can take a look at the boat, and get a little background.I'm in Bass Harbor 
Maine, and store my boat for the winter with John Williams (they are in Hall 
Quarry, just a few miles away).Sadly I've just returned from the John Williams 
yard - today was our decommissioning day after our brief summer season on Mount 
Desert Island, and we return Saturday to the UK.Feel free to message me 
off-line.Regards,Damian1982 C&C 34 GhostBass Harbor, 
mainedamian.gre...@yahoo.com

  From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Ryan Doyle 
 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:36 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36
   
And here is the link Sorry!  
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-36-2972935/Tremont/ME/United-States#.V78rN_T3anN

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Ryan Doyle  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ, and we 
> love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're considering 
> taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're ***possibly*** 
> looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard to restore and 
> move up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft and some nicer 
> amenities.
> 
> I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36.  Ticks a lot of boxes for us... 
> Shallow draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.
> 
> I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here.  Anyone have anything to say 
> about this boat good or bad?  Any advice if I go up to look at her?  She 
> definitely appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain with 
> good bones that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Ryan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue

[kelly petew via CnC-List]

Since rebuild cost is close to cost of new pump, I'm going the new pump route 
since it gets me back sailing sooner.  I'll get the old one rebuilt.
 
thanks to all!!!
 
 
Pete W. 
 Siren Song
 '91 C&C30-2
Deltaville, Va.

 
 


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On Behalf Of kelly petew via CnC-List

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:44 AM

To: cnc-list

Cc: kelly petew

Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue


 

Recently, I discovered my raw water pump was leaking during engine operation.  
So, I replaced the impeller [old one looked perfect after extraction] and the 
"O" ring seal. 


 

After renewal of impeller and "O" ring, I ran engine about 2 to 3 hours, and no 
leakage was observed.

However, yesterday, it was leaking at about 10 to 20 drips per minute while 
motoring. 


 

Are these pumps similar to an automobile water pump?  That is, when the auto 
pump's bearing fails, it starts to leak? 


Is the leakage telling me that I have a bad bearing in this pump??

 

Thanks,

 

 

Pete W.

Siren Song

'91 C&C30-2

Deltaville, Va.

 

 


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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36 - now also landfall 38

[Ryan Doyle via CnC-List]

Thanks guys.  The wife is actually focusing in on Landfall 38's, but they are 
pricier.  Although, they do seem better suited to cruising.  

Regarding draft - my home port is on the Barnegat Bay where when you tell 
people you have a 5' draft they say "oh wow... so you a deep draft boat..."  
I've survived with a 5' draft long enough though, and the landfall 38 is 4'11". 
 Every inch helps on the barnegat!

Going to take a hard look now at the landfall 35 and 38 as well..  Thanks guys. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 4:33 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Re:  Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Landfall 35 is 4'10".  Keel is rather long and the rudder has a partial
skeg.

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe Della
Barba via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 3:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joe Della Barba 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

Shallower draft than a C&C 30? They only draw 5 feet. Very few C&Cs draw
much less than that.  I wouldn't say 36s are bad, but you have 4 varieties
of 35s, centerboard 37s, and Landfall 38s to look at too. If you REALLY want
to go shallow, the old Frigate 36 is like 3.5 feet board up.

Joe Della Barba
j...@dellabarba.com

Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
Draws just over 5 feet 

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck
Gilchrest via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

Ryan,
If you're primarily looking to cruise, you may also consider a Landfall 35
or 38 although they're likely a bit more expensive after everything has been
done to make them seaworthy.  The 35 has a draft under 5' and an ICW
friendly mast height, should your cruising plans take you south from the
NY/NJ area.
>From the listing you show, it appears that the owner stopped "improving" the
boat in 2010.  Does that mean the boat has been sitting since then?  If so,
budget about $1000 per year extra for every year the boat sits unused, above
and beyond the cost of the boat, AND in addition to the reason the owner
decided it was too expensive to fix whatever was keeping him from sailing
the boat to begin with.  Engine, tankage, pumps, running and standing
rigging, steering gear all like to stay functional, moving and lubricated.
If this was a fresh water boat, the cost could scale down a bit, but the
boat seems to be priced as a "fixer-upper"..and the Maine location suggests
it spent time in the ocean.
Happy Hunting!
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic (previously "Orion, the barn find")
1983 Landfall 35
Padanaram, MA


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Doyle via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:36 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ryan Doyle 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

And here is the link Sorry!  
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-36-2972935/Tremont/ME/United-Stat
es#.V78rN_T3anN

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Ryan Doyle  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ, 
> and
we love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're
considering taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're
***possibly*** looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard
to restore and move up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft and
some nicer amenities.
> 
> I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36.  Ticks a lot of boxes for us...
Shallow draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.
> 
> I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here.  Anyone have anything to 
> say
about this boat good or bad?  Any advice if I go up to look at her?  She
definitely appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain with
good bones that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Ryan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Stus-List Re-stus list. Boat buck

[Free Girls Sailing via CnC-List]

I think it's still $1000.

On Thursday, August 25, 2016, svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> entire pump--less than 3 boat bucks (~ $270).
>
>
> Did someone change the value of a boat buck? I thought it was $1000. Is
> this deflation as opposed to inflation?
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
>
> svPegasus
>
> LF38 #4
>
> just west of Ballard, WA.
>
>
>
> -- Original message--
>
> *From: *Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
>
> *Date: *Thu, Aug 25, 2016 09:05
>
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> ;
>
> *Cc: *cenel...@aol.com ;
>
> *Subject:*Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue
>
>
> On my Beta 28, the pump bearings (on the shaft behind the impeller) also
> have O-rings on them on both sides of the bearing and these can leak,
> especially if a bad bearing has 'scored' the shaft.
>
> In my case, IIRC the shaft was scored enough that the entire pump needed
> replacement--the shaft could not reasonably be smoothed out enough for the
> old or new O-rings to seal.
>
> With a new pump in hand (or a rebuilt one?), it was a simple matter to
> replace the entire pump--less than 3 boat bucks (~ $270).
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> '95 C&C 36 XL/kcb
> Oriental, NC
>
> cenel...@aol.com 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kelly petew via CnC-List >
> 
> To: cnc-list >
> 
> Cc: kelly petew >
> 
> Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2016 10:44 am
> Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue
>
> Recently, I discovered my raw water pump was leaking during engine
> operation.  So, I replaced the impeller [old one looked perfect after
> extraction] and the "O" ring seal.
>
> After renewal of impeller and "O" ring, I ran engine about 2 to 3 hours,
> and no leakage was observed.
> However, yesterday, it was leaking at about 10 to 20 drips per minute
> while motoring.
>
> Are these pumps similar to an automobile water pump?  That is, when the
> auto pump's bearing fails, it starts to leak?
> Is the leakage telling me that I have a bad bearing in this pump??
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Pete W.
> Siren Song
> '91 C&C30-2
> Deltaville, Va.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I vote for the Landfall 38, at 4’-11”… but then, I’m biased.   :^)

Seriously, the stability curve shows the 36 as being a much more tender boat 
than either the 30mkI or the LF38.  FWIW.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Shallower draft than a C&C 30? They only draw 5 feet. Very few C&Cs draw
> much less than that.  I wouldn't say 36s are bad, but you have 4 varieties
> of 35s, centerboard 37s, and Landfall 38s to look at too. If you REALLY want
> to go shallow, the old Frigate 36 is like 3.5 feet board up.
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> j...@dellabarba.com 
> 
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I
> Draws just over 5 feet 

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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

Shallower draft than a C&C 30? They only draw 5 feet. Very few C&Cs draw
much less than that.  I wouldn't say 36s are bad, but you have 4 varieties
of 35s, centerboard 37s, and Landfall 38s to look at too. If you REALLY want
to go shallow, the old Frigate 36 is like 3.5 feet board up.

Joe Della Barba
j...@dellabarba.com

Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
Draws just over 5 feet 

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck
Gilchrest via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

Ryan,
If you're primarily looking to cruise, you may also consider a Landfall 35
or 38 although they're likely a bit more expensive after everything has been
done to make them seaworthy.  The 35 has a draft under 5' and an ICW
friendly mast height, should your cruising plans take you south from the
NY/NJ area.
>From the listing you show, it appears that the owner stopped "improving" the
boat in 2010.  Does that mean the boat has been sitting since then?  If so,
budget about $1000 per year extra for every year the boat sits unused, above
and beyond the cost of the boat, AND in addition to the reason the owner
decided it was too expensive to fix whatever was keeping him from sailing
the boat to begin with.  Engine, tankage, pumps, running and standing
rigging, steering gear all like to stay functional, moving and lubricated.
If this was a fresh water boat, the cost could scale down a bit, but the
boat seems to be priced as a "fixer-upper"..and the Maine location suggests
it spent time in the ocean.
Happy Hunting!
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic (previously "Orion, the barn find")
1983 Landfall 35
Padanaram, MA


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Doyle via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:36 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ryan Doyle 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

And here is the link Sorry!  
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-36-2972935/Tremont/ME/United-Stat
es#.V78rN_T3anN

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Ryan Doyle  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ, 
> and
we love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're
considering taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're
***possibly*** looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard
to restore and move up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft and
some nicer amenities.
> 
> I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36.  Ticks a lot of boxes for us...
Shallow draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.
> 
> I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here.  Anyone have anything to 
> say
about this boat good or bad?  Any advice if I go up to look at her?  She
definitely appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain with
good bones that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Ryan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Ryan,
If you're primarily looking to cruise, you may also consider a Landfall 35
or 38 although they're likely a bit more expensive after everything has been
done to make them seaworthy.  The 35 has a draft under 5' and an ICW
friendly mast height, should your cruising plans take you south from the
NY/NJ area.
>From the listing you show, it appears that the owner stopped "improving" the
boat in 2010.  Does that mean the boat has been sitting since then?  If so,
budget about $1000 per year extra for every year the boat sits unused, above
and beyond the cost of the boat, AND in addition to the reason the owner
decided it was too expensive to fix whatever was keeping him from sailing
the boat to begin with.  Engine, tankage, pumps, running and standing
rigging, steering gear all like to stay functional, moving and lubricated.
If this was a fresh water boat, the cost could scale down a bit, but the
boat seems to be priced as a "fixer-upper"..and the Maine location suggests
it spent time in the ocean.
Happy Hunting!
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic (previously "Orion, the barn find")
1983 Landfall 35
Padanaram, MA


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Doyle via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 1:36 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ryan Doyle 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

And here is the link Sorry!  
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-36-2972935/Tremont/ME/United-Stat
es#.V78rN_T3anN

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Ryan Doyle  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ, and
we love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're
considering taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're
***possibly*** looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard
to restore and move up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft and
some nicer amenities.
> 
> I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36.  Ticks a lot of boxes for us...
Shallow draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.
> 
> I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here.  Anyone have anything to say
about this boat good or bad?  Any advice if I go up to look at her?  She
definitely appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain with
good bones that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Ryan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Cool!
Very much like the 35/3, except for the dining table.  No spinnaker
winches.   Wheel pilot is undersized for the boat under sail. Cockpit is
good for 4, crowded for 6.  Standing rigging probably needs to be reheaded
or replaced.  Windows were redone and thru-bolted.
Great price if decks are dry.

Joel


On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> And here is the link Sorry!
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-36-2972935/
> Tremont/ME/United-States#.V78rN_T3anN
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 25, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Ryan Doyle  wrote:
> >
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ,
> and we love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're
> considering taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're
> ***possibly*** looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard
> to restore and move up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft
> and some nicer amenities.
> >
> > I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36.  Ticks a lot of boxes for us...
> Shallow draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.
> >
> > I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here.  Anyone have anything to
> say about this boat good or bad?  Any advice if I go up to look at her?
> She definitely appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain
> with good bones that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Ryan
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Sorry, for the various C&C 40's try here:
http://www.phrfne.org/html/boats/cc40.htm

On 25 August 2016 at 14:53, Ken Heaton  wrote:

> Have a look here: http://www.phrfne.org/html/boats/cc37.htm
>
> On 25 August 2016 at 13:49, David via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Does PHRF-NE have comments on all the C & Cs or just that model?   I
>> would be curious to read their thoughts on the 40
>>
>> David F. Risch
>> 1981 40-2
>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:27:38 -0300
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40
>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> CC: kenhea...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> You should see what the keel on Wave Train looks like, a Britt Chance
>> designed racing bulb keel (aluminum & lead), one of a kind.
>>
>> Actually, this boat was extensively customized at the factory for the
>> first owner during the initial build.  Things like heavier bulkheads, all
>> tabbed to the overhead (coach roof), a different layout inside, and so on.
>>
>> The Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston has blueprints specific
>> to this custom "Wave Train" 37R in its archives showing the modifications
>> requested by the first owner, Prof. Watt E. Webb.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 August 2016 at 13:10, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I googled Bruno's 37/40R (as the 37/40xl is a "maybe someday" boat for
>> us) and this is what I came up with: http://www.phrfne.org/ht
>> ml/boats/cc37.htm It's a briefing on ratings for 37/40's.
>>
>> The very last line is this:
>>
>> "Be careful with a boat called *WAVE TRAIN*. Just about everything is 
>> different with this
>> boat."
>>
>> Sounds like you have a special boat Bruno!
>>
>> KD
>> 30-2
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:01 AM Bruno Mannsberger via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> On ours, there is a through deck block that is inset within the boom so
>> that the exit of the block lines up just below the centre of the boom. The
>> main sheet is protected from the boom cut out by a stainless steel guard
>> that is shown in the picture. Chaffing is a definite possibility based on
>> the design.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruno Mannsberger
>>
>> C&C37/40 R
>>
>> Wave Train
>>
>> Ladysmith BC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>> *Sent: *August 25, 2016 7:33 AM
>> *To: *C&C List 
>> *Cc: *Josh Muckley 
>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40
>>
>>
>>
>> Evidently not the same on all 37+ or 37/40s.  Mine doesn't look anything
>> like that.  I can't quite tell from the picture where the chafe is
>> occurring but it kinda looks like the entry box (the place where it enters
>> the boom on the right side of the picture) is missing a sheave.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Aug 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Brian Fry via CnC-List" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> My mainsheet enters the boom and is chafing at the entry point. There is
>> another small block aft the pulls on the main sheet and seems to be causing
>> The chafe. Is this standard on other C&Cs?
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/tLfmXHf.jpg
>>
>> Brian Fry
>> La Neige
>> Havre de Grace MD
>>
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Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Have a look here: http://www.phrfne.org/html/boats/cc37.htm

On 25 August 2016 at 13:49, David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Does PHRF-NE have comments on all the C & Cs or just that model?   I would
> be curious to read their thoughts on the 40
>
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> --
> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:27:38 -0300
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: kenhea...@gmail.com
>
>
> Kevin,
>
> You should see what the keel on Wave Train looks like, a Britt Chance
> designed racing bulb keel (aluminum & lead), one of a kind.
>
> Actually, this boat was extensively customized at the factory for the
> first owner during the initial build.  Things like heavier bulkheads, all
> tabbed to the overhead (coach roof), a different layout inside, and so on.
>
> The Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston has blueprints specific
> to this custom "Wave Train" 37R in its archives showing the modifications
> requested by the first owner, Prof. Watt E. Webb.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On 25 August 2016 at 13:10, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I googled Bruno's 37/40R (as the 37/40xl is a "maybe someday" boat for us)
> and this is what I came up with: http://www.phrfne.org/html/boats/cc37.htm
>  It's a briefing on ratings for 37/40's.
>
> The very last line is this:
>
> "Be careful with a boat called *WAVE TRAIN*. Just about everything is 
> different with this
> boat."
>
> Sounds like you have a special boat Bruno!
>
> KD
> 30-2
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:01 AM Bruno Mannsberger via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> On ours, there is a through deck block that is inset within the boom so
> that the exit of the block lines up just below the centre of the boom. The
> main sheet is protected from the boom cut out by a stainless steel guard
> that is shown in the picture. Chaffing is a definite possibility based on
> the design.
>
>
>
> Bruno Mannsberger
>
> C&C37/40 R
>
> Wave Train
>
> Ladysmith BC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> *Sent: *August 25, 2016 7:33 AM
> *To: *C&C List 
> *Cc: *Josh Muckley 
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40
>
>
>
> Evidently not the same on all 37+ or 37/40s.  Mine doesn't look anything
> like that.  I can't quite tell from the picture where the chafe is
> occurring but it kinda looks like the entry box (the place where it enters
> the boom on the right side of the picture) is missing a sheave.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Aug 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Brian Fry via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
> My mainsheet enters the boom and is chafing at the entry point. There is
> another small block aft the pulls on the main sheet and seems to be causing
> The chafe. Is this standard on other C&Cs?
>
> http://i.imgur.com/tLfmXHf.jpg
>
> Brian Fry
> La Neige
> Havre de Grace MD
>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue (

[Robert Gallagher via CnC-List]

Sounds like a bad bearing.  Pretty simple to rebuild yourself but the new
bearing needs to be pressed in.

Rob
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Re: Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[Ryan Doyle via CnC-List]

And here is the link Sorry!  
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/C%26C-36-2972935/Tremont/ME/United-States#.V78rN_T3anN

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Ryan Doyle  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ, and we 
> love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're considering 
> taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're ***possibly*** 
> looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard to restore and 
> move up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft and some nicer 
> amenities.
> 
> I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36.  Ticks a lot of boxes for us... 
> Shallow draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.
> 
> I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here.  Anyone have anything to say 
> about this boat good or bad?  Any advice if I go up to look at her?  She 
> definitely appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain with 
> good bones that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Ryan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Stus-List Possible upgrade to a C&C 36

[Ryan Doyle via CnC-List]

Hey everyone,

So the wife and I have been coastal sailing our 30-1 around NY and NJ, and we 
love her, but of course now that we're more experienced, we're considering 
taking the jump to some longer distance crusing and we're ***possibly*** 
looking to sell our beautiful 30-1 that I've worked so hard to restore and move 
up to a larger boat - ideally with a shallower draft and some nicer amenities.

I've been looking at this 1981 C&C 36.  Ticks a lot of boxes for us... Shallow 
draft, significantly bigger, a wheel, and a diesel.

I know there are a ton of 36 owners on here.  Anyone have anything to say about 
this boat good or bad?  Any advice if I go up to look at her?  She definitely 
appears to need a little TLC, but I'm looking for a bargain with good bones 
that I can fix up like I did my 30-1.

Thanks in advance,
Ryan

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Re: Stus-List Pale yellow counter top material

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Try Wilsonart “Putty”.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 11:21 AM, S Thomas via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Anyone found a source for the pale yellow double sided counter top material 
> used in the late 70s and early 80s C&C yachts?
> No luck with the local building supply stores so far. 
> I would like to use matching material if I can. 
>  
> Steve Thomas
> C&C27 MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON 
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Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

[David via CnC-List]

Does PHRF-NE have comments on all the C & Cs or just that model?   I would be 
curious to read their thoughts on the 40

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:27:38 -0300
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: kenhea...@gmail.com

Kevin,
You should see what the keel on Wave Train looks like, a Britt Chance designed 
racing bulb keel (aluminum & lead), one of a kind.
Actually, this boat was extensively customized at the factory for the first 
owner during the initial build.  Things like heavier bulkheads, all tabbed to 
the overhead (coach roof), a different layout inside, and so on.
The Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston has blueprints specific to 
this custom "Wave Train" 37R in its archives showing the modifications 
requested by the first owner, Prof. Watt E. Webb.
Ken H.



On 25 August 2016 at 13:10, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  
wrote:
I googled Bruno's 37/40R (as the 37/40xl is a "maybe someday" boat for us) and 
this is what I came up with: http://www.phrfne.org/html/boats/cc37.htm It's a 
briefing on ratings for 37/40's. 
The very last line is this:"Be careful with a boat called WAVE TRAIN. Just 
about everything is different with this 
boat."Sounds like you have a special boat Bruno!
KD 30-2

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:01 AM Bruno Mannsberger via CnC-List 
 wrote:








On ours, there is a through deck block that is inset within the boom so that 
the exit of the block lines up just below the centre of the boom. The main 
sheet is protected from the boom cut out by a stainless steel guard
 that is shown in the picture. Chaffing is a definite possibility based on the 
design.

 
Bruno Mannsberger
C&C37/40 R
Wave Train
Ladysmith BC
 
 

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List

Sent: August 25, 2016 7:33 AM

To: C&C List

Cc: Josh Muckley

Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

 


Evidently not the same on all 37+ or 37/40s.  Mine doesn't look anything like 
that.  I can't quite tell from the picture where the chafe is occurring but it 
kinda looks like the entry box (the place where it enters the boom on the right 
side of
 the picture) is missing a sheave.
Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD
On Aug 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Brian Fry via CnC-List"  wrote:


My mainsheet enters the boom and is chafing at the entry point. There is 
another small block aft the pulls on the main sheet and seems to be causing

The chafe. Is this standard on other C&Cs?




http://i.imgur.com/tLfmXHf.jpg




Brian Fry 

La Neige

Havre de Grace MD


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Stus-List Re-stus list. Boat buck

[svpegasus38]

entire pump--less than 3 boat bucks (~ $270).

Did someone change the value of a boat buck? I thought it was $1000. Is this 
deflation as opposed to inflation? 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 #4just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Date: Thu, Aug 
25, 2016 09:05To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: cenel...@aol.com;Subject:Re: 
Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue
On my Beta 28, the pump bearings (on the shaft behind the impeller) also have 
O-rings on them on both sides of the bearing and these can leak, especially if 
a bad bearing has 'scored' the shaft. In my case, IIRC the shaft was scored 
enough that the entire pump needed replacement--the shaft could not reasonably 
be smoothed out enough for the old or new O-rings to seal. With a new pump in 
hand (or a rebuilt one?), it was a simple matter to replace the entire 
pump--less than 3 boat bucks (~ $270). Charlie NelsonWater Phantom'95 C&C 36 
XL/kcbOriental, NC cenel...@aol.com
  -Original Message-
From: kelly petew via CnC-List >
To: cnc-list >
Cc: kelly petew >
Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2016 10:44 am
Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue

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.aolReplacedBody .hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px}.aolReplacedBody 
body.hmmessage{font-size: 12pt;font-family:Calibri}Recently, I discovered my 
raw water pump was leaking during engine operation.  So, I replaced the 
impeller [old one looked perfect after extraction] and the "O" ring seal.  
 
After renewal of impeller and "O" ring, I ran engine about 2 to 3 hours, and no 
leakage was observed.
However, yesterday, it was leaking at about 10 to 20 drips per minute while 
motoring.  
 
Are these pumps similar to an automobile water pump?  That is, when the auto 
pump's bearing fails, it starts to leak?  
Is the leakage telling me that I have a bad bearing in this pump??
 
Thanks,
 
 
Pete W.
Siren Song
'91 C&C30-2
Deltaville, Va.
 
 
  
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Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Kevin,

You should see what the keel on Wave Train looks like, a Britt Chance
designed racing bulb keel (aluminum & lead), one of a kind.

Actually, this boat was extensively customized at the factory for the first
owner during the initial build.  Things like heavier bulkheads, all tabbed
to the overhead (coach roof), a different layout inside, and so on.

The Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston has blueprints specific to
this custom "Wave Train" 37R in its archives showing the modifications
requested by the first owner, Prof. Watt E. Webb.

Ken H.



On 25 August 2016 at 13:10, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I googled Bruno's 37/40R (as the 37/40xl is a "maybe someday" boat for us)
> and this is what I came up with: http://www.phrfne.org/html/boats/cc37.htm
>  It's a briefing on ratings for 37/40's.
>
> The very last line is this:
>
> "Be careful with a boat called *WAVE TRAIN*. Just about everything is 
> different with this
> boat."
>
> Sounds like you have a special boat Bruno!
>
> KD
> 30-2
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:01 AM Bruno Mannsberger via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> On ours, there is a through deck block that is inset within the boom so
>> that the exit of the block lines up just below the centre of the boom. The
>> main sheet is protected from the boom cut out by a stainless steel guard
>> that is shown in the picture. Chaffing is a definite possibility based on
>> the design.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruno Mannsberger
>>
>> C&C37/40 R
>>
>> Wave Train
>>
>> Ladysmith BC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>> *Sent: *August 25, 2016 7:33 AM
>> *To: *C&C List 
>> *Cc: *Josh Muckley 
>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40
>>
>>
>>
>> Evidently not the same on all 37+ or 37/40s.  Mine doesn't look anything
>> like that.  I can't quite tell from the picture where the chafe is
>> occurring but it kinda looks like the entry box (the place where it enters
>> the boom on the right side of the picture) is missing a sheave.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Aug 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Brian Fry via CnC-List" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> My mainsheet enters the boom and is chafing at the entry point. There is
>> another small block aft the pulls on the main sheet and seems to be causing
>> The chafe. Is this standard on other C&Cs?
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/tLfmXHf.jpg
>>
>> Brian Fry
>> La Neige
>> Havre de Grace MD
>>
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Stus-List Pale yellow counter top material

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

Anyone found a source for the pale yellow double sided counter top material 
used in the late 70s and early 80s C&C yachts?
No luck with the local building supply stores so far. 
I would like to use matching material if I can. 

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Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

We have the mainsheet fine tune option in our boom (ours in an XL).  We
have a type of Harken Bullet Block where the mainsheet enters the boom.

Link to photo of Harken block as fitted in our boom: https://goo.gl/photos/
sHtDMjA4QEawpxvF6

The mast (and the exit for the fine tune line) would be to the left in this
photo.

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/

On 24 August 2016 at 20:05, Bruno Mannsberger via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> That is the mainsheet fine tune. There is a 6:1 purchase inside the boom
> that allows the main to be trimmed easily, for upwind trimming. The added
> purchse is very helpful for controlling leach twist in medium to heavy air.
>
>
>
> I believe this is standard on the 37/40R and was an option on the XL.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Bruno Mannsberger
>
> C&C 37/40 R
>
> Wave Train
>
> Ladysmith BC
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

I googled Bruno's 37/40R (as the 37/40xl is a "maybe someday" boat for us)
and this is what I came up with: http://www.phrfne.org/html/boats/cc37.htm It's
a briefing on ratings for 37/40's.

The very last line is this:

"Be careful with a boat called *WAVE TRAIN*. Just about everything is
different with this
boat."

Sounds like you have a special boat Bruno!

KD
30-2

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:01 AM Bruno Mannsberger via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> On ours, there is a through deck block that is inset within the boom so
> that the exit of the block lines up just below the centre of the boom. The
> main sheet is protected from the boom cut out by a stainless steel guard
> that is shown in the picture. Chaffing is a definite possibility based on
> the design.
>
>
>
> Bruno Mannsberger
>
> C&C37/40 R
>
> Wave Train
>
> Ladysmith BC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> *Sent: *August 25, 2016 7:33 AM
> *To: *C&C List 
> *Cc: *Josh Muckley 
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40
>
>
>
> Evidently not the same on all 37+ or 37/40s.  Mine doesn't look anything
> like that.  I can't quite tell from the picture where the chafe is
> occurring but it kinda looks like the entry box (the place where it enters
> the boom on the right side of the picture) is missing a sheave.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Aug 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Brian Fry via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
> My mainsheet enters the boom and is chafing at the entry point. There is
> another small block aft the pulls on the main sheet and seems to be causing
> The chafe. Is this standard on other C&Cs?
>
> http://i.imgur.com/tLfmXHf.jpg
>
> Brian Fry
> La Neige
> Havre de Grace MD
>
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

On my Beta 28, the pump bearings (on the shaft behind the impeller) also have 
O-rings on them on both sides of the bearing and these can leak, especially if 
a bad bearing has 'scored' the shaft.
 
In my case, IIRC the shaft was scored enough that the entire pump needed 
replacement--the shaft could not reasonably be smoothed out enough for the old 
or new O-rings to seal.

With a new pump in hand (or a rebuilt one?), it was a simple matter to replace 
the entire pump--less than 3 boat bucks (~ $270).
 
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
'95 C&C 36 XL/kcb
Oriental, NC
 
cenel...@aol.com

 
 
-Original Message-
From: kelly petew via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: kelly petew 
Sent: Thu, Aug 25, 2016 10:44 am
Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue



Recently, I discovered my raw water pump was leaking during engine operation.  
So, I replaced the impeller [old one looked perfect after extraction] and the 
"O" ring seal.  
 
After renewal of impeller and "O" ring, I ran engine about 2 to 3 hours, and no 
leakage was observed.
However, yesterday, it was leaking at about 10 to 20 drips per minute while 
motoring.  
 
Are these pumps similar to an automobile water pump?  That is, when the auto 
pump's bearing fails, it starts to leak?  
Is the leakage telling me that I have a bad bearing in this pump??
 
Thanks,
 
 
Pete W.
Siren Song
'91 C&C30-2
Deltaville, Va.
 
 
  

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue

[evans.in.gibsons via CnC-List]

If it from the shaft,  you must replace the bushing.Usually from age or can be 
a result of over tightening the belt.

 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"  
Date: 08-25-2016  7:52 AM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: "'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'"  
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" , kelly petew 
 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue 



What part of the pump is leaking? They usually have a seal/gasket at one end 
where you replace the impellor and another at the other end where the shaft 
comes
 in.
Joe
Coquina
 


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On Behalf Of kelly petew via CnC-List

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:44 AM

To: cnc-list

Cc: kelly petew

Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue


 

Recently, I discovered my raw water pump was leaking during engine operation.  
So, I replaced the impeller [old one looked perfect after extraction] and the 
"O" ring seal. 


 

After renewal of impeller and "O" ring, I ran engine about 2 to 3 hours, and no 
leakage was observed.

However, yesterday, it was leaking at about 10 to 20 drips per minute while 
motoring. 


 

Are these pumps similar to an automobile water pump?  That is, when the auto 
pump's bearing fails, it starts to leak? 


Is the leakage telling me that I have a bad bearing in this pump??

 

Thanks,

 

 

Pete W.

Siren Song

'91 C&C30-2

Deltaville, Va.

 

 


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Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

[Bruno Mannsberger via CnC-List]

On ours, there is a through deck block that is inset within the boom so that 
the exit of the block lines up just below the centre of the boom. The main 
sheet is protected from the boom cut out by a stainless steel guard that is 
shown in the picture. Chaffing is a definite possibility based on the design.

Bruno Mannsberger
C&C37/40 R
Wave Train
Ladysmith BC


From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: August 25, 2016 7:33 AM
To: C&C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

Evidently not the same on all 37+ or 37/40s.  Mine doesn't look anything
like that.  I can't quite tell from the picture where the chafe is
occurring but it kinda looks like the entry box (the place where it enters
the boom on the right side of the picture) is missing a sheave.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Brian Fry via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> My mainsheet enters the boom and is chafing at the entry point. There is
> another small block aft the pulls on the main sheet and seems to be causing
> The chafe. Is this standard on other C&Cs?
>
> http://i.imgur.com/tLfmXHf.jpg
>
> Brian Fry
> La Neige
> Havre de Grace MD
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

What part of the pump is leaking? They usually have a seal/gasket at one end 
where you replace the impellor and another at the other end where the shaft 
comes in.
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of kelly petew 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:44 AM
To: cnc-list
Cc: kelly petew
Subject: Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue

Recently, I discovered my raw water pump was leaking during engine operation.  
So, I replaced the impeller [old one looked perfect after extraction] and the 
"O" ring seal.

After renewal of impeller and "O" ring, I ran engine about 2 to 3 hours, and no 
leakage was observed.
However, yesterday, it was leaking at about 10 to 20 drips per minute while 
motoring.

Are these pumps similar to an automobile water pump?  That is, when the auto 
pump's bearing fails, it starts to leak?
Is the leakage telling me that I have a bad bearing in this pump??

Thanks,


Pete W.
Siren Song
'91 C&C30-2
Deltaville, Va.


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Stus-List Yanmar 2gm20f - raw H2O pump issue

[kelly petew via CnC-List]

Recently, I discovered my raw water pump was leaking during engine operation.  
So, I replaced the impeller [old one looked perfect after extraction] and the 
"O" ring seal.  
 
After renewal of impeller and "O" ring, I ran engine about 2 to 3 hours, and no 
leakage was observed.
However, yesterday, it was leaking at about 10 to 20 drips per minute while 
motoring.  
 
Are these pumps similar to an automobile water pump?  That is, when the auto 
pump's bearing fails, it starts to leak?  
Is the leakage telling me that I have a bad bearing in this pump??
 
Thanks,
 
 
Pete W.
Siren Song
'91 C&C30-2
Deltaville, Va.
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

When we are running way off, say around 160 – 150 in light air, we sometimes 
put the Genoa Sheet up over the end of the boom.

Holds it out nicely, and takes some of the weight off the leech that would pull 
it down  and deform it.

Seems to work well for us.

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RANDY via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:46 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: RANDY; Michael Brown
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

 

"In light air and flat water the barn door trim seems to be the fastest."





It's been my observation that that's how the most experienced and winningest 
JAM boat skippers and crews in my club run downwind in their Catalina 27s, 
Ranger 26, and Cal 22 - wing and wing, headsail poled out.  They must believe 
that's fastest, and they've passed me doing it while I was broad reaching and 
gybing downwind.  Made a believer out of me, so I did the "if you can't lick 
'em, join 'em" thing.





Cheers,

Randy Stafford

S/V Grenadine

C&C 30-1 #7

Ken Caryl, CO

 

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Re: Stus-List Mainsheet 37/40

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Evidently not the same on all 37+ or 37/40s.  Mine doesn't look anything
like that.  I can't quite tell from the picture where the chafe is
occurring but it kinda looks like the entry box (the place where it enters
the boom on the right side of the picture) is missing a sheave.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Brian Fry via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> My mainsheet enters the boom and is chafing at the entry point. There is
> another small block aft the pulls on the main sheet and seems to be causing
> The chafe. Is this standard on other C&Cs?
>
> http://i.imgur.com/tLfmXHf.jpg
>
> Brian Fry
> La Neige
> Havre de Grace MD
>
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>
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> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All
> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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