Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

A machinist friend of mine told me that his recommendation is to run it for
3 hours every time.  He had 3 one hour goals.  IIRC the first hour was to
drive the moisture out of the oil, the second hour drives the moisture out
of the engine, and only during the third hour do you really start burning
of any carbon build up.  It seems that moisture is the biggest problem.
Moisture causes corrosion and accumulates carbon.  No moisture, no
problems.  In the winter I keep the moisture out by running a block
heater.  I presume that frequent enough engine ops during the summer is
sufficient... Then again maybe not.

Josh

On Oct 6, 2016 8:43 PM, "svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I knew that. Don't know what I was thinking. Must of had a brain fart.
>
> I do have to agree with the dirty injector route. Also these engines need
> to get fully warmed up and run under load often. They are redesigned
> tractor engines originally made to operate at 70 to 75% power for hours on
> end.
>
> A friend would start his 1cyl. Yanmar cruise out of the marina. Set sails
> shut it down. Then when finished sailing start itback up back to his slip.
> Ended up replacing his engine because of this. FWIW.
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
>
> svPegasus
>
> LF38 #4
>
> just west of Ballard, WA.
>
>
>
> -- Original message--
>
> *From: *Josh Muckley via CnC-List
>
> *Date: *Wed, Oct 5, 2016 20:17
>
> *To: *C List;
>
> *Cc: *Josh Muckley;
>
> *Subject:*Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel
>
>
> No glow plugs on these engines.  Precombustion chambers instead.  I can
> start mine in the dead of winter with seemingly no other indication that it
> is cold outside.
>
> Josh Muckley
>
> On Oct 5, 2016 11:03 PM, "svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> How many hours on your engine? How are you filters? Does it have glow
>> plugs, a bad glow plug will cause hard starting. Dirty injectors will also
>> cause this, but I think there would be more issues, like poor idle. With
>> the smooth running agter start I don't think it is fuel related.
>>
>>
>> Doug Mountjoy
>>
>> svPegasus
>>
>> LF38 #4
>>
>> just west of Ballard, WA.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original message--
>>
>> *From: *Michael Jones via CnC-List
>>
>> *Date: *Wed, Oct 5, 2016 18:19
>>
>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
>>
>> *Cc: *Michael Jones;Tristan Jones;
>>
>> *Subject:*Stus-List yanmar diesel
>>
>>
>> Hello experts,
>>
>> I wonder if you can help me with any suggestions. I have a C with a
>> 3GM30 F. This motor runs well and smoothly, water circulates, no smoke.
>> Recently it has been taking more and more revolutions to get it started.
>> When it is turning over there does not appear to be anything going on, but
>> when it starts its immediately smooth and normal (no coughing and
>> spluttering).
>>
>> This leads me to think that there must be a leak in the fuel system which
>> is allowing the fuel to drain back out of the injectors. The fact that it
>> seems to start with all 3 cylinders suggests that the leak is before the
>> injector pump.
>>
>> I cannot see any fuel leaking out at the supply pump or filter, so I'm
>> wondering if anyone can suggest where I should start looking? Or what might
>> cause this and not show fuel leaking or spraying out? I'd like to introduce
>> some method into my troubleshooting!
>>
>> Thanks and regards
>>
>> Mike Jones
>> c Seanachai
>> Oak Bay, Victoria.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good morning all.  Several weeks back there was a discussion surrounding
>> issues with bulging keel castings in colder climates.   Been meaning to
>> post some photos I took awhile back, here they are:
>>
>>
>> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/
>>
>>
>> Dave 33-2 Windstar
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Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

[svpegasus38]

I knew that. Don't know what I was thinking. Must of had a brain fart. I do 
have to agree with the dirty injector route. Also these engines need to get 
fully warmed up and run under load often. They are redesigned tractor engines 
originally made to operate at 70 to 75% power for hours on end. A friend would 
start his 1cyl. Yanmar cruise out of the marina. Set sails shut it down. Then 
when finished sailing start itback up back to his slip. Ended up replacing his 
engine because of this. FWIW. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 #4just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Date: Wed, Oct 5, 
2016 20:17To: C List;Cc: Josh Muckley;Subject:Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel
No glow plugs on these engines.  Precombustion chambers instead.  I can start 
mine in the dead of winter with seemingly no other indication that it is cold 
outside.Josh Muckley
On Oct 5, 2016 11:03 PM, "svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List" 
 wrote:
How many hours on your engine? How are you filters? Does it have glow 
plugs, a bad glow plug will cause hard starting. Dirty injectors will also 
cause this, but I think there would be more issues, like poor idle. With the 
smooth running agter start I don't think it is fuel related. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 #4just west of Ballard, WA.

-- Original message--From: Michael Jones via CnC-ListDate: Wed, Oct 5, 
2016 18:19To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Michael Jones;Tristan 
Jones;Subject:Stus-List yanmar diesel
Hello experts,
I wonder if you can help me with any suggestions. I have a C with a 3GM30 
F. This motor runs well and smoothly, water circulates, no smoke. Recently it 
has been taking more and more revolutions to get it started. When it is turning 
over there does not appear to be anything going on, but when it starts its 
immediately smooth and normal (no coughing and spluttering).
This leads me to think that there must be a leak in the fuel system which is 
allowing the fuel to drain back out of the injectors. The fact that it seems to 
start with all 3 cylinders suggests that the leak is before the injector pump.
I cannot see any fuel leaking out at the supply pump or filter, so I'm 
wondering if anyone can suggest where I should start looking? Or what might 
cause this and not show fuel leaking or spraying out? I'd like to introduce 
some method into my troubleshooting!
Thanks and regards
Mike Jonesc SeanachaiOak Bay, Victoria.


On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:

Good morning all.  Several weeks back there was a discussion surrounding issues 
with bulging keel castings in colder climates.   Been meaning to post some 
photos I took awhile back, here they are:

http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/


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Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

[Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List]

I have the same issue with my 2Qm.  I've learned to live with it.  I 
suspect it's battery.  My boat sits on the hard
all winter (Nov - May).  I put a freshly charged battery in it, straight 
from my garage charging station to the boat and
it fires within a crank or maybe two if it's ony 5 or 6 degrees (40 F 
ish).  If it were a fuel leak, the 7 months would
definitely drained the lines.  So fuel is available and getting there.  
Fresh battery starts the 1979 old beast with
ease.  Later in the season, the battery is likely not 100% charged and 
it takes longer.  Maybe more resistance

from old oil too...although 5 months of oil use shouldn't be too bad.

Easy to test.  Charge the battery well...then hit the button...if it 
takes less time you don't have to tear down anything.

If it does not then have fun tearing the beastie down.


On 10/5/2016 10:29 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List wrote:
I'm experiencing the same issue with my 1GM10. I'm suspecting an air 
leak in the line. My trouble shooting thus far has only been replacing 
the fuel filter. I'm anxious to hear suggestions too.


Brent Driedger
s/v Wild Rover
Lake Winnipeg.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:18 PM, Michael Jones via CnC-List 
> wrote:



Hello experts,

I wonder if you can help me with any suggestions. I have a C with 
a 3GM30 F. This motor runs well and smoothly, water circulates, no 
smoke. Recently it has been taking more and more revolutions to get 
it started. When it is turning over there does not appear to be 
anything going on, but when it starts its immediately smooth and 
normal (no coughing and spluttering).


This leads me to think that there must be a leak in the fuel system 
which is allowing the fuel to drain back out of the injectors. The 
fact that it seems to start with all 3 cylinders suggests that the 
leak is before the injector pump.


I cannot see any fuel leaking out at the supply pump or filter, so 
I'm wondering if anyone can suggest where I should start looking? Or 
what might cause this and not show fuel leaking or spraying out? I'd 
like to introduce some method into my troubleshooting!


Thanks and regards

Mike Jones
c Seanachai
Oak Bay, Victoria.



On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
> wrote:


Good morning all.  Several weeks back there was a discussion 
surrounding issues with bulging keel castings in colder climates.   
Been meaning to post some photos I took awhile back, here they are:



http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/


Dave 33-2 Windstar
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Stus-List CNG refill in Nova Scotia

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

An update on the CNG process for any listers in this area with CNG

I managed to have my existing CNG canister hydro tested to get a 5 year 
CANADIAN certification (it came from US)
Once certified Heritage Gas will refill the canisters at their Raddall drive 
location in Burnside (Dartmouth, NS).  I had to purchase a refill adaptor off 
eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/182161389847 for this purpose

I have now refilled the tank in July before our two week cruise and again this 
week to have it full for next season.

Contact me off list if you are in the area and have a CNG tank and I can 
provide details

Thanks

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

The described problem sounds very similar to that on our 3GM30F.

We have gone through 4 full tanks of fuel this year so it is not stale fuel
The fuel lift pump was replaced in the fall.
The racor filter was changed as was the engine fuel filter
The Injector pump was rebuilt in the Spring

When starting in colder weather (and I seem to recall in wet weather sometimes) 
it cranks longer and then it seems two cylinders catch before the third.  Runs 
flawlessly one it starts.  When it starts after a long crank an initial cloud 
of black smoke comes out and then all is fine.  When a warm start it fires up 
instantly

My mechanic calls that “old yanmar” and says it is normal.

It is our intention to remove all three injectors this fall and have them 
rebuilt as well

For priming we have installed a fuel squeeze blub before the lift pump and 
after the Racor.  Really hastens the bleeding process

Mike
Persistence
1987 Frers 33
Halifax, NS

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

I think the tank cleaning and fresh fuel should be done regardless.  I did 
that, it helped, the old fuel was the color of weak coffee, the new was nearly 
clear.

On the other hand, a clogged exhaust elbow (or any other restriction in the 
exhaust) will result in a loss of power under load and a lot more black smoke.  
Since you said it runs clean when it finally does start I don't think that's 
your problem.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:10 AM, Frank via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Michael ,
Before you start tearing things apart, check to see that your fuel feed line 
from the tank to the fuel pump is not obstructed.  There is usually a small 
screen on the end of the line that terminates in the tank that clogs up and can 
restrict fuel flow from the tank to the pump.  This is a common problem usually 
solved by blowing air through the line from the pump end back into the tank.  I 
had a similar problem and fortunately someone on the list suggested this 
procedure to me.  It worked.

Good luck

Frank
S/V Cool Change
C 38LF, S/N: 001
Rose City Yacht Club
Portland, Oregon


From: Michael Jones via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 6:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Michael Jones ; Tristan Jones
Subject: Stus-List yanmar diesel

Hello experts,

I wonder if you can help me with any suggestions. I have a C with a 3GM30 
F. This motor runs well and smoothly, water circulates, no smoke. Recently it 
has been taking more and more revolutions to get it started. When it is turning 
over there does not appear to be anything going on, but when it starts its 
immediately smooth and normal (no coughing and spluttering).

This leads me to think that there must be a leak in the fuel system which is 
allowing the fuel to drain back out of the injectors. The fact that it seems to 
start with all 3 cylinders suggests that the leak is before the injector pump.

I cannot see any fuel leaking out at the supply pump or filter, so I'm 
wondering if anyone can suggest where I should start looking? Or what might 
cause this and not show fuel leaking or spraying out? I'd like to introduce 
some method into my troubleshooting!

Thanks and regards

Mike Jones
c Seanachai
Oak Bay, Victoria.



On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Good morning all.  Several weeks back there was a discussion surrounding issues 
with bulging keel castings in colder climates.   Been meaning to post some 
photos I took awhile back, here they are:


http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/


Dave 33-2 Windstar
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Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

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I think the tank cleaning and fresh fuel should be done regardless.  I did
that, it helped, the old fuel was the color of weak coffee, the new was
nearly clear.

On the other hand, a clogged exhaust elbow (or any other restriction in the
exhaust) will result in a loss of power under load and a lot more black
smoke.  Since you said it runs clean when it finally does start I don't
think that's your problem.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:10 AM, Frank via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Michael ,
> Before you start tearing things apart, check to see that your fuel feed
> line from the tank to the fuel pump is not obstructed.  There is usually a
> small screen on the end of the line that terminates in the tank that clogs
> up and can restrict fuel flow from the tank to the pump.  This is a common
> problem usually solved by blowing air through the line from the pump end
> back into the tank.  I had a similar problem and fortunately someone on the
> list suggested this procedure to me.  It worked.
>
> Good luck
>
> Frank
> S/V Cool Change
> C 38LF, S/N: 001
> Rose City Yacht Club
> Portland, Oregon
>
>
> *From:* Michael Jones via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 5, 2016 6:18 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Michael Jones ; Tristan Jones
> *Subject:* Stus-List yanmar diesel
>
> Hello experts,
>
> I wonder if you can help me with any suggestions. I have a C with a
> 3GM30 F. This motor runs well and smoothly, water circulates, no smoke.
> Recently it has been taking more and more revolutions to get it started.
> When it is turning over there does not appear to be anything going on, but
> when it starts its immediately smooth and normal (no coughing and
> spluttering).
>
> This leads me to think that there must be a leak in the fuel system which
> is allowing the fuel to drain back out of the injectors. The fact that it
> seems to start with all 3 cylinders suggests that the leak is before the
> injector pump.
>
> I cannot see any fuel leaking out at the supply pump or filter, so I'm
> wondering if anyone can suggest where I should start looking? Or what might
> cause this and not show fuel leaking or spraying out? I'd like to introduce
> some method into my troubleshooting!
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> Mike Jones
> c Seanachai
> Oak Bay, Victoria.
>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Good morning all.  Several weeks back there was a discussion surrounding
> issues with bulging keel castings in colder climates.   Been meaning to
> post some photos I took awhile back, here they are:
>
>
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/
>
>
> Dave 33-2 Windstar
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Stus-List Thoughts to those in Matthew's path

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Hope all in Matthew's path remain safe.

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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandevile, LA
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Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

[Frank via CnC-List]

Michael ,
Before you start tearing things apart, check to see that your fuel feed line 
from the tank to the fuel pump is not obstructed.  There is usually a small 
screen on the end of the line that terminates in the tank that clogs up and can 
restrict fuel flow from the tank to the pump.  This is a common problem usually 
solved by blowing air through the line from the pump end back into the tank.  I 
had a similar problem and fortunately someone on the list suggested this 
procedure to me.  It worked.

Good luck

Frank
S/V Cool Change
C 38LF, S/N: 001
Rose City Yacht Club
Portland, Oregon


From: Michael Jones via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 6:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Michael Jones ; Tristan Jones 
Subject: Stus-List yanmar diesel

Hello experts,

I wonder if you can help me with any suggestions. I have a C with a 3GM30 
F. This motor runs well and smoothly, water circulates, no smoke. Recently it 
has been taking more and more revolutions to get it started. When it is turning 
over there does not appear to be anything going on, but when it starts its 
immediately smooth and normal (no coughing and spluttering).

This leads me to think that there must be a leak in the fuel system which is 
allowing the fuel to drain back out of the injectors. The fact that it seems to 
start with all 3 cylinders suggests that the leak is before the injector pump.

I cannot see any fuel leaking out at the supply pump or filter, so I'm 
wondering if anyone can suggest where I should start looking? Or what might 
cause this and not show fuel leaking or spraying out? I'd like to introduce 
some method into my troubleshooting!

Thanks and regards

Mike Jones
c Seanachai
Oak Bay, Victoria.



On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:


  Good morning all.  Several weeks back there was a discussion surrounding 
issues with bulging keel castings in colder climates.   Been meaning to post 
some photos I took awhile back, here they are:


  http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/



  Dave 33-2 Windstar
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Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Exhaust elbow clear? That can cause hard starting and gets progressively 
worse over time.


Bill Bina


On 10/6/2016 7:47 AM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List wrote:
Cold isn't my issue, this has been an ever increasing issue throughout 
the year.  I'm also suspecting fuel that's gone well past its shelf 
life.  Replacing the fuel and cleaning the tank is next. It's been 8 
years since I did it last and aside from topping up the tank in the 
fall with a gallon or two, I really haven't had a good clean fuel 
cycling.  I've probably only put 20 hours of run time on my engine 
since I got it!


Brent
s/v Wild Rover
27-5



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Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

[Brent Driedger via CnC-List]

Cold isn't my issue, this has been an ever increasing issue throughout the 
year.  I'm also suspecting fuel that's gone well past its shelf life.  
Replacing the fuel and cleaning the tank is next. It's been 8 years since I did 
it last and aside from topping up the tank in the fall with a gallon or two, I 
really haven't had a good clean fuel cycling.  I've probably only put 20 hours 
of run time on my engine since I got it!  

Brent
s/v Wild Rover
27-5

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> On Oct 6, 2016, at 4:44 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> How cold is it where you are at?  With no glow plugs it takes more cranking 
> as it gets colder. 
> Joel 
> 
>> On Wednesday, October 5, 2016, Michael Jones via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hello experts,
>> 
>> I wonder if you can help me with any suggestions. I have a C with a 
>> 3GM30 F. This motor runs well and smoothly, water circulates, no smoke. 
>> Recently it has been taking more and more revolutions to get it started. 
>> When it is turning over there does not appear to be anything going on, but 
>> when it starts its immediately smooth and normal (no coughing and 
>> spluttering).
>> 
>> This leads me to think that there must be a leak in the fuel system which is 
>> allowing the fuel to drain back out of the injectors. The fact that it seems 
>> to start with all 3 cylinders suggests that the leak is before the injector 
>> pump.
>> 
>> I cannot see any fuel leaking out at the supply pump or filter, so I'm 
>> wondering if anyone can suggest where I should start looking? Or what might 
>> cause this and not show fuel leaking or spraying out? I'd like to introduce 
>> some method into my troubleshooting!
>> 
>> Thanks and regards
>> 
>> Mike Jones
>> c Seanachai
>> Oak Bay, Victoria.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Dave S via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning all.  Several weeks back there was a discussion surrounding 
>>> issues with bulging keel castings in colder climates.   Been meaning to 
>>> post some photos I took awhile back, here they are:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave 33-2 Windstar
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Re: Stus-List Solar on the go

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I have been quite happy with this panel:
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50 watts, $89.95 ☺
Joe
Coquina


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Subject: Stus-List Solar on the go

Reading an article about a family traveling in an RV and the comments lead me 
to this:

https://www.amazon.com/Zamp-Solar-40P-Portable-Charge/dp/B00K1LBR1E
I thought is might make an interesting temporary solution for a short to medium 
term cruise for someone.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List C 34 For Sale

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Am familiar with the boat, damage of the grounding (not that bad) and repairs.  
The boat is like new.  Contact me off list if you wish to discuss

 

John

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:38 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 34 For Sale

 

That C 34 turns out to be my old boat, sold to someone at our club in 2010.  
It ended up on the rocks after a squall last year and was declared a total 
loss.  The local glass/paint shop (considered the best in the area) picked it 
up as a project boat and completely repaired the hull damage.  I saw it this 
summer on the hard after the work and it looked brand new.  They really did an 
awesome job restoring her to mint condition.  I have not seen the inside, and 
don’t know details of the damage and the repair.   I had the engine rebuilt the 
year I sold it, so I think it likely to be a really nice boat (IMHO).  Dave

 

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT







On Oct 5, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
 wrote:

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/boa/5811131453.html

This boat is in my marina.  I have not seen the interior, the hull and decks 
are like new.  Not exaggerating here, it looks like it just came out of the 
showroom with upgraded non-skid.

I can't imagine it would cost any less than 15K to make any boat this age look 
like this.  The owner also happens to own a glass/Awlgrip shop.

Disclaimer:  I have met the owner a few times very briefly as his shop is in my 
area and I got an estimate from him a long time ago, I no nothing about this 
boat except that it looks great.

If anyone is looking for a C, this is probably worth a look.

...Rumor around the marina is that the wife wants a powerboat...I can't vouch 
for that either :)



Rob
30MKII
Hanuman
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Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

How cold is it where you are at?  With no glow plugs it takes more cranking
as it gets colder.
Joel

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016, Michael Jones via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello experts,
>
> I wonder if you can help me with any suggestions. I have a C with a
> 3GM30 F. This motor runs well and smoothly, water circulates, no smoke.
> Recently it has been taking more and more revolutions to get it started.
> When it is turning over there does not appear to be anything going on, but
> when it starts its immediately smooth and normal (no coughing and
> spluttering).
>
> This leads me to think that there must be a leak in the fuel system which
> is allowing the fuel to drain back out of the injectors. The fact that it
> seems to start with all 3 cylinders suggests that the leak is before the
> injector pump.
>
> I cannot see any fuel leaking out at the supply pump or filter, so I'm
> wondering if anyone can suggest where I should start looking? Or what might
> cause this and not show fuel leaking or spraying out? I'd like to introduce
> some method into my troubleshooting!
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> Mike Jones
> c Seanachai
> Oak Bay, Victoria.
>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Dave S via CnC-List  > wrote:
>
> Good morning all.  Several weeks back there was a discussion surrounding
> issues with bulging keel castings in colder climates.   Been meaning to
> post some photos I took awhile back, here they are:
>
>
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/
>
>
> Dave 33-2 Windstar
>
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Re: Stus-List yanmar diesel

[sender via CnC-List]

The 2QM15 I had got progressively harder to start as it got colder out (30
- 40 secconds of cranking before it would fire), but would run fine once it
got going and start again instantly several hours later.   The engine had
lots of hours so I was concerned the engine was going to need a re-build.
I tried several things, with little effect, and then took the injectors
out, took them to a shop that replaced the tips.   It made a huge
difference.  In the summer it would start to fire almost instantly, and in
10 or so in the fall.

Cranking RPM is an important part of the mix.  Before looking at the fuel
system, I'd make sure your cables are good.   Test with a volt meter
connected to the positive lug on the starter motor and the engine ground.
Have someone turn it over.  The voltage will drop by 1 to 1.5 v, if any
more then start inspecting and cleaning connections on both positive and
negative cables and the battery terminals.  If the starter is a bit
sluggish, and there is very little or no voltage drop when you turn it
over, then the starter itself should go to an auto electric shop for
brushes or solenoid replacement.  (IMHO it better to rebuild original than
roll the dice with Nappa replacement)

Eric

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> No glow plugs on these engines.  Precombustion chambers instead.  I can
> start mine in the dead of winter with seemingly no other indication that it
> is cold outside.
>
> Josh Muckley
>
> On Oct 5, 2016 11:03 PM, "svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> How many hours on your engine? How are you filters? Does it have glow
>> plugs, a bad glow plug will cause hard starting. Dirty injectors will also
>> cause this, but I think there would be more issues, like poor idle. With
>> the smooth running agter start I don't think it is fuel related.
>>
>>
>> Doug Mountjoy
>>
>> svPegasus
>>
>> LF38 #4
>>
>> just west of Ballard, WA.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original message--
>>
>> *From: *Michael Jones via CnC-List
>>
>> *Date: *Wed, Oct 5, 2016 18:19
>>
>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
>>
>> *Cc: *Michael Jones;Tristan Jones;
>>
>> *Subject:*Stus-List yanmar diesel
>>
>>
>> Hello experts,
>>
>> I wonder if you can help me with any suggestions. I have a C with a
>> 3GM30 F. This motor runs well and smoothly, water circulates, no smoke.
>> Recently it has been taking more and more revolutions to get it started.
>> When it is turning over there does not appear to be anything going on, but
>> when it starts its immediately smooth and normal (no coughing and
>> spluttering).
>>
>> This leads me to think that there must be a leak in the fuel system which
>> is allowing the fuel to drain back out of the injectors. The fact that it
>> seems to start with all 3 cylinders suggests that the leak is before the
>> injector pump.
>>
>> I cannot see any fuel leaking out at the supply pump or filter, so I'm
>> wondering if anyone can suggest where I should start looking? Or what might
>> cause this and not show fuel leaking or spraying out? I'd like to introduce
>> some method into my troubleshooting!
>>
>> Thanks and regards
>>
>> Mike Jones
>> c Seanachai
>> Oak Bay, Victoria.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good morning all.  Several weeks back there was a discussion surrounding
>> issues with bulging keel castings in colder climates.   Been meaning to
>> post some photos I took awhile back, here they are:
>>
>>
>> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/
>>
>>
>> Dave 33-2 Windstar
>>
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