Re: Stus-List Cleat covers > Spin Halyard Parking Cleat

2016-12-17 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List 
I would use a clutch, not a cam cleat. There's a lot of strain on the
halyard and you don't need it oozing through a cam cleat under load.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 17 December 2016 at 12:52, Nauset Beach via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Chuck,
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> Was thinking the same thing but the hole spacing of the ocean cleat may
> not work at 2 1/16” vs 1 ½” for the Har150 standard AL cleat.  The APS site
> does not provide any details and have not found the “parking cleat” on the
> Harken site.  Looks like it is sourced from another company.
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> A call to APS is probably needed.
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> Brian
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> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
> Saur via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:45 PM
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> *Cc:* Chuck Saur 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Cleat covers
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> Thanks, Dennis!  Nice option...the "parking cleat" looks like something I
> will consider.  I looked up the working load rating for the Harken 150 cam
> cleat (required-and in my parts tub) and it's 300lbs.  Does anyone know the
> loads for a 35-3 halyard at the mast for the cam cleat and base mount
> turning blocks?  Seems like the upgrade to a Harken offshore (500 lbs
> working load) might be ok?
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Re: Stus-List Cleat covers > Spin Halyard Parking Cleat

2016-12-17 Thread Nauset Beach via CnC-List 
Chuck, 

 

Was thinking the same thing but the hole spacing of the ocean cleat may not 
work at 2 1/16” vs 1 ½” for the Har150 standard AL cleat.  The APS site does 
not provide any details and have not found the “parking cleat” on the Harken 
site.  Looks like it is sourced from another company.  

 

A call to APS is probably needed.  

 

Brian   

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Saur 
via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:45 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Saur 
Subject: Stus-List Cleat covers

 

Thanks, Dennis!  Nice option...the "parking cleat" looks like something I will 
consider.  I looked up the working load rating for the Harken 150 cam cleat 
(required-and in my parts tub) and it's 300lbs.  Does anyone know the loads for 
a 35-3 halyard at the mast for the cam cleat and base mount turning blocks?  
Seems like the upgrade to a Harken offshore (500 lbs working load) might be ok? 

 

 

 

Chuck Saur

C 35-3 

Morning Sky

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Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

2016-12-17 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
WRT #3, a friend's boat has a std cam cleat on the mast for the spin halyard, 
but it's offset from the center line of the halyard.  Mastman or foredeck can 
"park" the halyard there by pulling the halyard off center toward the cleat.  
By pulling the tail of the halyard, it pops free of the cam cleat without 
anyone being at the mast.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL (where freezing rain has 
thawed; next batch this PM and low of 4F coming tonight)



  From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
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Cc: Dennis C. 
 Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 9:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Cleat covers
   
Yes.  Here are three options for you to consider.  Two of them require a winch 
on the mast.

My rigger buddy and I were re-configuring the standing rigging on a large 
cruising boat.  We installed Lewmar rope clutches on the mast.  However, this 
boat had winches below the rope clutches.  The set up works well.  The clutches 
are kept closed while hoisting and tensioning with the winches.  There are horn 
cleats under the winches for the lines to be stowed on. 

On Touche', I have one jib halyard "on the mast".  It is my cruising halyard 
but doubles as the spare racing jib halyard.  It exits the mast high, runs down 
to a winch then to a horn cleat.  If you don't have a winch on your mast, they 
are easily, and cheaply, found on eBay.

Third option is more interesting and isn't exactly what you're asking for but I 
thought I would mention it for you to think about.  For Touche's #1 spinnaker 
halyard, we use a spinnaker halyard parking cleat.  This is a slick bracket 
that holds a cam cleat "wrong side out" for temporary stopping of the halyard 
while the crew tidies up after a hoist.  It works really well.  Here's the link:

http://www.apsltd.com/spinnaker-halyard-parking-bracket.html

On hoisting, the halyard is pulled down and outboard.  It locks into the cam 
cleat.  When things calm down, the crew pulls the tail and the halyard is 
pulled towards the mast and releases from the cam cleat.  The halyard is 
stopped by a rope clutch on the cabintop.

IMHO, Lewmar makes the best rope clutches.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



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Stus-List Cleat covers

2016-12-17 Thread Chuck Saur via CnC-List 
Thanks, Dennis!  Nice option...the "parking cleat" looks like something I
will consider.  I looked up the working load rating for the Harken 150 cam
cleat (required-and in my parts tub) and it's 300lbs.  Does anyone know the
loads for a 35-3 halyard at the mast for the cam cleat and base mount
turning blocks?  Seems like the upgrade to a Harken offshore (500 lbs
working load) might be ok?



*Chuck Saur*
C 35-3
Morning Sky
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Re: Stus-List Cleat covers

2016-12-17 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Yes.  Here are three options for you to consider.  Two of them require a
winch on the mast.

My rigger buddy and I were re-configuring the standing rigging on a large
cruising boat.  We installed Lewmar rope clutches on the mast.  However,
this boat had winches below the rope clutches.  The set up works well.  The
clutches are kept closed while hoisting and tensioning with the winches.
There are horn cleats under the winches for the lines to be stowed on.

On Touche', I have one jib halyard "on the mast".  It is my cruising
halyard but doubles as the spare racing jib halyard.  It exits the mast
high, runs down to a winch then to a horn cleat.  If you don't have a winch
on your mast, they are easily, and cheaply, found on eBay.

Third option is more interesting and isn't exactly what you're asking for
but I thought I would mention it for you to think about.  For Touche's #1
spinnaker halyard, we use a spinnaker halyard parking cleat.  This is a
slick bracket that holds a cam cleat "wrong side out" for temporary
stopping of the halyard while the crew tidies up after a hoist.  It works
really well.  Here's the link:

http://www.apsltd.com/spinnaker-halyard-parking-bracket.html

On hoisting, the halyard is pulled down and outboard.  It locks into the
cam cleat.  When things calm down, the crew pulls the tail and the halyard
is pulled towards the mast and releases from the cam cleat.  The halyard is
stopped by a rope clutch on the cabintop.

IMHO, Lewmar makes the best rope clutches.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Chuck Saur via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

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> I wonder if anyone has either installed a mast-located stopper or
> camcleat, and line-receiver bag to get the halyard off the cabin top? This
> would eliminate a "horned" cleat to foul, and be "convertible" to allow
> re-rigging the halyard on cabin top for racing.  If so, what mast (or deck)
> mounted stopper might be used, and how have you configured it?
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Stus-List Cleat covers

2016-12-17 Thread Chuck Saur via CnC-List 
Good chat on both the jib fastening (I am ordering soft shackles and sheets
soon) and cleat covers...which brings up another dilemma with my rig:  My
halyards run to stoppers on top of cabin, and my genoa (roller furled) is
seldom changed, and typically for a race.

I wonder if anyone has either installed a mast-located stopper or camcleat,
and line-receiver bag to get the halyard off the cabin top? This would
eliminate a "horned" cleat to foul, and be "convertible" to allow
re-rigging the halyard on cabin top for racing.  If so, what mast (or deck)
mounted stopper might be used, and how have you configured it?

Apparently, the cold and snow has caused my brain to shift into
catalog/PayPal mode...


*Chuck Saur*
Morning Sky
C 35-3
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