Re: Stus-List 37/40+ What does small switch on ceiling do?

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Same as Josh!

Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


At 10:23 AM 4/30/2017, you wrote:


Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 12:16:44 -0400
From: Josh Muckley 
To: "C&C List" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37/40+ What does small switch on ceiling do?
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Forward bulkhead?  Nope, I don't have a switch there.  I have 2 switches in
the ceiling to the stbd of the companion way stairs and one push button in
the head.  The head get the shower light.  The stairs gets the overhead
lights throughout the salon and the 2nd switch by the stairs gets the
courtesy lights throughout.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Apr 30, 2017 9:14 AM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I'm guessing Josh or one of you other brilliant folks with 37/40+ C&Cs
> will be able to guide me.  There is a small switch above the table near the
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Re: Stus-List Deck Organizer Source

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

Garhauer were just a bit off, but a great addition.

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Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 1:46:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Martin Kane
Subject: Stus-List Deck Organizer Source

All
I'd like to stack another deck organizer on the original. I measure the C to
C dimension of the existing organizers as 2 3/8". I've been unable to find
any organizers with this C-C dimension. I've looked at Harken, Schaeffer,
Ronstan, Selden etc and either the dimension is wrong or not provided as
part of the specs. Based on measurements from the computer screen, Garhauer
looks like it might be the right size, but I did not get a response to my
enquiry to them.
Does anyone know of a brand that is compatible with the C&C original.
Thanks

Martin
C&C 29-2




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Re: Stus-List Deck Organizer Source

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Very interested in this as well, Martin, please let me know what you figure
out.   Was going to post this exact question...

Dave
'85 33-2





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From: "Dennis C." 
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Bcc:
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 12:55:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List Deck Organizer Source
I would just call Garhauer.  They're very helpful.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Martin Kane via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> All
> I'd like to stack another deck organizer on the original. I measure the C
> to
> C dimension of the existing organizers as 2 3/8". I've been unable to find
> any organizers with this C-C dimension. I've looked at Harken, Schaeffer,
> Ronstan, Selden etc and either the dimension is wrong or not provided as
> part of the specs. Based on measurements from the computer screen, Garhauer
> looks like it might be the right size, but I did not get a response to my
> enquiry to them.
> Does anyone know of a brand that is compatible with the C&C original.
> Thanks
>
> Martin
> C&C 29-2
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Re: Stus-List Deck Organizer Source

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

What Denis said. Call them directly.

Marek


 Original message 
From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
Date: 4/30/17 13:56 (GMT-05:00)
To: CnClist 
Cc: "Dennis C." 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Deck Organizer Source

I would just call Garhauer.  They're very helpful.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Martin Kane via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
All
I'd like to stack another deck organizer on the original. I measure the C to
C dimension of the existing organizers as 2 3/8". I've been unable to find
any organizers with this C-C dimension. I've looked at Harken, Schaeffer,
Ronstan, Selden etc and either the dimension is wrong or not provided as
part of the specs. Based on measurements from the computer screen, Garhauer
looks like it might be the right size, but I did not get a response to my
enquiry to them.
Does anyone know of a brand that is compatible with the C&C original.
Thanks

Martin
C&C 29-2




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Re: Stus-List Deck Organizer Source

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

On my 35 I stacked the two I had and found another that fit the hole
spacing.  I think it was a Schaeffer.

Joel
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 1:56 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I would just call Garhauer.  They're very helpful.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Martin Kane via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> All
>> I'd like to stack another deck organizer on the original. I measure the C
>> to
>> C dimension of the existing organizers as 2 3/8". I've been unable to find
>> any organizers with this C-C dimension. I've looked at Harken, Schaeffer,
>> Ronstan, Selden etc and either the dimension is wrong or not provided as
>> part of the specs. Based on measurements from the computer screen,
>> Garhauer
>> looks like it might be the right size, but I did not get a response to my
>> enquiry to them.
>> Does anyone know of a brand that is compatible with the C&C original.
>> Thanks
>>
>> Martin
>> C&C 29-2
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Electrical help please

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

You mentioned that you are not an electrical expert so I apologize if this
line of questions and comments seem condescending.  It's not intentional.
Where are you hooking up the ground or black wire?  There should be a
ground bus near-ish to the breakers.  That's your negative.  All of the
other Black (or yellow) wires will be tying into this bus bar and a thick
black wire will be attached which leads to the battery negative terminal.

Each breaker will probably have one side which is tied to all the other
breakers.  Sometimes this is a solid copper bar connecting between them.
At the end of the copper bar you'll have a thick red wire which leads to
the battery positive terminal.  In the same way you directly connected the
fan to the battery you should be able to directly connect the fan to the
red bus and the black bus.  If that doesn't work then you have bigger
problems and you'll likely find that none of your loads work

Perminently attach the black wire for your fan to the black bus with the
correct ring terminal - crimped tightly.  Now on the breaker, attach the
red wire to the terminal opposite of the red bus with and properly crimped
and insulated ring terminal.  Ensure that the breaker is on.  The fan
should work.  If not then your breaker may be bad.  Flip the breaker a
couple of times and ensure that it is fully engaged.  One way will spring
open/off the other way will latch closed/on.

If that doesn't work then it is sounding more and more like your breaker is
bad.  Try a different breaker or test for voltage between the output
terminal and the ground/black bus.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Apr 30, 2017 10:56 AM, "Kevin Paxton via CnC-List" 
wrote:

I'm trying to install some cabin fans. (https://www.westmarine.com/
buy/caframo--sirocco-cabin-fans--P012_361_002_507).
Amperage High: 0.31 Amps
Medium: 0.24 Amps
Low: 0.14 Amps

I wired it all up yesterday to my breaker panel and when trying to turn it
on, nothing happened. I then took it off the wall and connected it directly
to the battery, and it worked just fine. I then tried to connect to
directly to the feed line of the breaker panel and it didn't work.

I'm not an electrical expert but I would think connecting it the way I did
to the breaker panel would not have a large voltage drop. I was using 16awg
from the breaker to the mounting location. I might be a little low on the
gauge of wire for that length I admit. That was my first guess. But
connecting to the panel line feed directly still didn't do anything and
that baffled me.

Any ideas on what could be going wrong? The batteries are new last year. My
battery meter was saying approx 70% charge capacity when doing all of this.
The cabin lights and other electronics were working while I was trying to
do this too.

I'm at a complete loss here.

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Re: Stus-List Deck Organizer Source

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I would just call Garhauer.  They're very helpful.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Martin Kane via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> All
> I'd like to stack another deck organizer on the original. I measure the C
> to
> C dimension of the existing organizers as 2 3/8". I've been unable to find
> any organizers with this C-C dimension. I've looked at Harken, Schaeffer,
> Ronstan, Selden etc and either the dimension is wrong or not provided as
> part of the specs. Based on measurements from the computer screen, Garhauer
> looks like it might be the right size, but I did not get a response to my
> enquiry to them.
> Does anyone know of a brand that is compatible with the C&C original.
> Thanks
>
> Martin
> C&C 29-2
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Deck Organizer Source

[Martin Kane via CnC-List]

All
I'd like to stack another deck organizer on the original. I measure the C to
C dimension of the existing organizers as 2 3/8". I've been unable to find
any organizers with this C-C dimension. I've looked at Harken, Schaeffer,
Ronstan, Selden etc and either the dimension is wrong or not provided as
part of the specs. Based on measurements from the computer screen, Garhauer
looks like it might be the right size, but I did not get a response to my
enquiry to them.
Does anyone know of a brand that is compatible with the C&C original.
Thanks

Martin 
C&C 29-2




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Re: Stus-List Electrical help please

[Rich Knowles via CnC-List]

Thanks, Fred! Nice to be here. Good entertainment!

Boatless for the moment but still involved.

Rich.







On Apr 30, 2017, at 14:40, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Yeah, I’ve got one of those, too…   :^)

Rich, nice to have you back on the list!

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Apr 30, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
> And… If you really want to go completely mad, get a tone type wire and cable 
> tester. 
> 
> Lots available on Amazon etc. for all kinds of cables. 
> 
> See 
> https://www.amazon.ca/Automotive-Tracker-Circuit-Finder-Vehicle/dp/B00P0QKRG6/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1493573546&sr=8-8&keywords=wire+tracer
>  
> 
> 
> Rich

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Re: Stus-List Electrical help please

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Yeah, I’ve got one of those, too…   :^)

Rich, nice to have you back on the list!

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Apr 30, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> And… If you really want to go completely mad, get a tone type wire and cable 
> tester. 
> 
> Lots available on Amazon etc. for all kinds of cables. 
> 
> See 
> https://www.amazon.ca/Automotive-Tracker-Circuit-Finder-Vehicle/dp/B00P0QKRG6/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1493573546&sr=8-8&keywords=wire+tracer
>  
> 
> 
> Rich

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Re: Stus-List Electrical help please

[Rich Knowles via CnC-List]

And… If you really want to go completely mad, get a tone type wire and cable 
tester. 

Lots available on Amazon etc. for all kinds of cables. 

See 
https://www.amazon.ca/Automotive-Tracker-Circuit-Finder-Vehicle/dp/B00P0QKRG6/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1493573546&sr=8-8&keywords=wire+tracer
 


Rich







On Apr 30, 2017, at 14:27, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 wrote:

One other gizmo I’ve found helpful, especially when working on boat electrics 
alone (most of the time…), is a 12-volt Sonalert (beeper) with a couple of feet 
of wire and alligator clips.  It makes it much easier to diagnose when you’ve 
found the right breaker, or bad connections; wire it across a circuit, and if 
it beeps, there’s twelve volts there.  And you can hear the darn thing just 
about anywhere aboard…

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Apr 30, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
> Couple items I find useful when troubleshooting electrical problems are 
> alligator clip test leads.  Clip one end to your multimeter probe and then 
> the other end to a ground or positive.  Will free up one hand and make things 
> easier.
> 
> I made one that is about 20 feet long.  I can clip it to the battery negative 
> post and be assured I have a good ground for testing around much of a boat.
> 
> Also lets me check continuity of long wire runs.  Clip it to one end of the 
> wire then touch probe to the other end even if it's at the other end of the 
> boat.
> 
> Dennis C.

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Re: Stus-List Electrical help please

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

One other gizmo I’ve found helpful, especially when working on boat electrics 
alone (most of the time…), is a 12-volt Sonalert (beeper) with a couple of feet 
of wire and alligator clips.  It makes it much easier to diagnose when you’ve 
found the right breaker, or bad connections; wire it across a circuit, and if 
it beeps, there’s twelve volts there.  And you can hear the darn thing just 
about anywhere aboard…

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Apr 30, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Couple items I find useful when troubleshooting electrical problems are 
> alligator clip test leads.  Clip one end to your multimeter probe and then 
> the other end to a ground or positive.  Will free up one hand and make things 
> easier.
> 
> I made one that is about 20 feet long.  I can clip it to the battery negative 
> post and be assured I have a good ground for testing around much of a boat.
> 
> Also lets me check continuity of long wire runs.  Clip it to one end of the 
> wire then touch probe to the other end even if it's at the other end of the 
> boat.
> 
> Dennis C.

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Re: Stus-List Electrical help please

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Couple items I find useful when troubleshooting electrical problems are
alligator clip test leads.  Clip one end to your multimeter probe and then
the other end to a ground or positive.  Will free up one hand and make
things easier.

I made one that is about 20 feet long.  I can clip it to the battery
negative post and be assured I have a good ground for testing around much
of a boat.

Also lets me check continuity of long wire runs.  Clip it to one end of the
wire then touch probe to the other end even if it's at the other end of the
boat.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hey Rich, thanks for those steps. I will definitely check the breaker
> itself as you described. I did however try to connect it to the input side
> of the breaker directly with nothing happening. So even if the breaker is
> bad, it was out of the circuit. I definitely need to find out what voltage
> I'm getting at the breaker panel though.
>
> I'll check it with the multimeter hopefully today if I have time.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017, 11:41 AM Rich Knowles via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin.
>>
>> I suggest the following steps:
>>
>> 1. Use a decent digital voltmeter to test the circuit as follows. If you
>> don’t have one, head off to the store with at least $25.00 in your hot
>> little hands and buy one. It will be very useful.
>> 2. Make sure the panel breaker feeding the fan is turned on.
>> 3. Using the meter, check for battery voltage between the output
>> connection on the breaker feeding the fan and ground.
>> 4. If there is no voltage on the output of the breaker, check the input
>> side of the breaker to make sure it is getting power. You should now know
>> if the breaker is good or not. Replace if needed or move the fan wire to
>> another known good breaker.
>> 5. Check the connections on the wire feeding your fan. Are they crimped
>> properly? If in doubt, redo them.
>> 6. If you have determined that electricity is present at the feed end of
>> the fan wire and the fan is still not working, measure across the
>> connections at the fan both with the fan switch turned on and off. There
>> should be voltage present. If not, or if the voltage drops drastically when
>> the fan switch is turned on, check your connections and the wire you
>> installed carefully.
>> 7. You should have found the problem by the end of step 6.
>>
>> There may be some shaky connections in the fan itself that may have
>> caused it to run at the battery and not when installed. Wiggle the wires….?
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Rich.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2017, at 11:55, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to install some cabin fans. (https://www.westmarine.com/
>> buy/caframo--sirocco-cabin-fans--P012_361_002_507).
>> Amperage High: 0.31 Amps
>> Medium: 0.24 Amps
>> Low: 0.14 Amps
>>
>> I wired it all up yesterday to my breaker panel and when trying to turn
>> it on, nothing happened. I then took it off the wall and connected it
>> directly to the battery, and it worked just fine. I then tried to connect
>> to directly to the feed line of the breaker panel and it didn't work.
>>
>> I'm not an electrical expert but I would think connecting it the way I
>> did to the breaker panel would not have a large voltage drop. I was using
>> 16awg from the breaker to the mounting location. I might be a little low on
>> the gauge of wire for that length I admit. That was my first guess. But
>> connecting to the panel line feed directly still didn't do anything and
>> that baffled me.
>>
>> Any ideas on what could be going wrong? The batteries are new last year.
>> My battery meter was saying approx 70% charge capacity when doing all of
>> this. The cabin lights and other electronics were working while I was
>> trying to do this too.
>>
>> I'm at a complete loss here.
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Re: Stus-List Electrical help please

[Kevin Paxton via CnC-List]

Hey Rich, thanks for those steps. I will definitely check the breaker
itself as you described. I did however try to connect it to the input side
of the breaker directly with nothing happening. So even if the breaker is
bad, it was out of the circuit. I definitely need to find out what voltage
I'm getting at the breaker panel though.

I'll check it with the multimeter hopefully today if I have time.

Kevin

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017, 11:41 AM Rich Knowles via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Kevin.
>
> I suggest the following steps:
>
> 1. Use a decent digital voltmeter to test the circuit as follows. If you
> don’t have one, head off to the store with at least $25.00 in your hot
> little hands and buy one. It will be very useful.
> 2. Make sure the panel breaker feeding the fan is turned on.
> 3. Using the meter, check for battery voltage between the output
> connection on the breaker feeding the fan and ground.
> 4. If there is no voltage on the output of the breaker, check the input
> side of the breaker to make sure it is getting power. You should now know
> if the breaker is good or not. Replace if needed or move the fan wire to
> another known good breaker.
> 5. Check the connections on the wire feeding your fan. Are they crimped
> properly? If in doubt, redo them.
> 6. If you have determined that electricity is present at the feed end of
> the fan wire and the fan is still not working, measure across the
> connections at the fan both with the fan switch turned on and off. There
> should be voltage present. If not, or if the voltage drops drastically when
> the fan switch is turned on, check your connections and the wire you
> installed carefully.
> 7. You should have found the problem by the end of step 6.
>
> There may be some shaky connections in the fan itself that may have caused
> it to run at the battery and not when installed. Wiggle the wires….?
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Rich.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2017, at 11:55, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to install some cabin fans. (
> https://www.westmarine.com/buy/caframo--sirocco-cabin-fans--P012_361_002_507
> ).
> Amperage High: 0.31 Amps
> Medium: 0.24 Amps
> Low: 0.14 Amps
>
> I wired it all up yesterday to my breaker panel and when trying to turn it
> on, nothing happened. I then took it off the wall and connected it directly
> to the battery, and it worked just fine. I then tried to connect to
> directly to the feed line of the breaker panel and it didn't work.
>
> I'm not an electrical expert but I would think connecting it the way I did
> to the breaker panel would not have a large voltage drop. I was using 16awg
> from the breaker to the mounting location. I might be a little low on the
> gauge of wire for that length I admit. That was my first guess. But
> connecting to the panel line feed directly still didn't do anything and
> that baffled me.
>
> Any ideas on what could be going wrong? The batteries are new last year.
> My battery meter was saying approx 70% charge capacity when doing all of
> this. The cabin lights and other electronics were working while I was
> trying to do this too.
>
> I'm at a complete loss here.
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Re: Stus-List 37/40+ What does small switch on ceiling do?

[Alan Liles via CnC-List]

On my boat, the switch directly forward of the mast controls two lights, port 
and starboard of the mast.  

Al Liles
SV Elendil
C&C 37/40+
Vancouver 


> On Apr 30, 2017, at 6:30 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, we don't have a switch there.  You'll likely have to trace the wires 
> and see.  Do your fluorescent lights above the plastic panels beside the mast 
> still work?  Perhaps it controls one of those?  Or an alternate night red 
> light up there that doesn't work now?
> 
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
> 
>> On 30 April 2017 at 10:13, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hello all!
>> 
>> I'm guessing Josh or one of you other brilliant folks with 37/40+ C&Cs will 
>> be able to guide me.  There is a small switch above the table near the 
>> forward bulkhead.  I can't seem to figure out what it does.  Presumably it 
>> is for an overhead light, but I don't see anything that isn't already 
>> controlled by a switch, and the switch doesn't seem to do anything.
>> 
>> Insights please?
>> 
>> Kindest Regards,
>> 
>> Bruce
>> 847.404.5092
>> 
>> Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone.
>> 
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Re: Stus-List 37/40+ What does small switch on ceiling do?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Forward bulkhead?  Nope, I don't have a switch there.  I have 2 switches in
the ceiling to the stbd of the companion way stairs and one push button in
the head.  The head get the shower light.  The stairs gets the overhead
lights throughout the salon and the 2nd switch by the stairs gets the
courtesy lights throughout.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Apr 30, 2017 9:14 AM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I'm guessing Josh or one of you other brilliant folks with 37/40+ C&Cs
> will be able to guide me.  There is a small switch above the table near the
> forward bulkhead.  I can't seem to figure out what it does.  Presumably it
> is for an overhead light, but I don't see anything that isn't already
> controlled by a switch, and the switch doesn't seem to do anything.
>
> Insights please?
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Bruce
> 847.404.5092
>
> Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone.
>
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Re: Stus-List 37/40+ What does small switch on ceiling do?

[Rich Knowles via CnC-List]

Check to see if it is connected to the mast. I’ve seen switches installed in 
odd places to switch between deck and masthead running lights etc.

RK







On Apr 30, 2017, at 10:30, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
wrote:

Sorry, we don't have a switch there.  You'll likely have to trace the wires and 
see.  Do your fluorescent lights above the plastic panels beside the mast still 
work?  Perhaps it controls one of those?  Or an alternate night red light up 
there that doesn't work now?

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

On 30 April 2017 at 10:13, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello all!

I'm guessing Josh or one of you other brilliant folks with 37/40+ C&Cs will be 
able to guide me.  There is a small switch above the table near the forward 
bulkhead.  I can't seem to figure out what it does.  Presumably it is for an 
overhead light, but I don't see anything that isn't already controlled by a 
switch, and the switch doesn't seem to do anything.

Insights please?

Kindest Regards,

Bruce
847.404.5092 

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Re: Stus-List Electrical help please

[Rich Knowles via CnC-List]

Hi Kevin.

I suggest the following steps:

1. Use a decent digital voltmeter to test the circuit as follows. If you don’t 
have one, head off to the store with at least $25.00 in your hot little hands 
and buy one. It will be very useful.
2. Make sure the panel breaker feeding the fan is turned on.
3. Using the meter, check for battery voltage between the output connection on 
the breaker feeding the fan and ground.
4. If there is no voltage on the output of the breaker, check the input side of 
the breaker to make sure it is getting power. You should now know if the 
breaker is good or not. Replace if needed or move the fan wire to another known 
good breaker.
5. Check the connections on the wire feeding your fan. Are they crimped 
properly? If in doubt, redo them.
6. If you have determined that electricity is present at the feed end of the 
fan wire and the fan is still not working, measure across the connections at 
the fan both with the fan switch turned on and off. There should be voltage 
present. If not, or if the voltage drops drastically when the fan switch is 
turned on, check your connections and the wire you installed carefully.
7. You should have found the problem by the end of step 6.

There may be some shaky connections in the fan itself that may have caused it 
to run at the battery and not when installed. Wiggle the wires….?

Hope this helps. 

Rich.








On Apr 30, 2017, at 11:55, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List  
wrote:

I'm trying to install some cabin fans. 
(https://www.westmarine.com/buy/caframo--sirocco-cabin-fans--P012_361_002_507 
).
 
AmperageHigh: 0.31 Amps
Medium: 0.24 Amps
Low: 0.14 Amps

I wired it all up yesterday to my breaker panel and when trying to turn it on, 
nothing happened. I then took it off the wall and connected it directly to the 
battery, and it worked just fine. I then tried to connect to directly to the 
feed line of the breaker panel and it didn't work. 

I'm not an electrical expert but I would think connecting it the way I did to 
the breaker panel would not have a large voltage drop. I was using 16awg from 
the breaker to the mounting location. I might be a little low on the gauge of 
wire for that length I admit. That was my first guess. But connecting to the 
panel line feed directly still didn't do anything and that baffled me. 

Any ideas on what could be going wrong? The batteries are new last year. My 
battery meter was saying approx 70% charge capacity when doing all of this. The 
cabin lights and other electronics were working while I was trying to do this 
too. 

I'm at a complete loss here.
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Stus-List Electrical help please

[Kevin Paxton via CnC-List]

I'm trying to install some cabin fans. (
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/caframo--sirocco-cabin-fans--P012_361_002_507
).
Amperage High: 0.31 Amps
Medium: 0.24 Amps
Low: 0.14 Amps

I wired it all up yesterday to my breaker panel and when trying to turn it
on, nothing happened. I then took it off the wall and connected it directly
to the battery, and it worked just fine. I then tried to connect to
directly to the feed line of the breaker panel and it didn't work.

I'm not an electrical expert but I would think connecting it the way I did
to the breaker panel would not have a large voltage drop. I was using 16awg
from the breaker to the mounting location. I might be a little low on the
gauge of wire for that length I admit. That was my first guess. But
connecting to the panel line feed directly still didn't do anything and
that baffled me.

Any ideas on what could be going wrong? The batteries are new last year. My
battery meter was saying approx 70% charge capacity when doing all of this.
The cabin lights and other electronics were working while I was trying to
do this too.

I'm at a complete loss here.
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Re: Stus-List 37/40+ What does small switch on ceiling do?

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Sorry, we don't have a switch there.  You'll likely have to trace the wires
and see.  Do your fluorescent lights above the plastic panels beside the
mast still work?  Perhaps it controls one of those?  Or an alternate night
red light up there that doesn't work now?

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

On 30 April 2017 at 10:13, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I'm guessing Josh or one of you other brilliant folks with 37/40+ C&Cs
> will be able to guide me.  There is a small switch above the table near the
> forward bulkhead.  I can't seem to figure out what it does.  Presumably it
> is for an overhead light, but I don't see anything that isn't already
> controlled by a switch, and the switch doesn't seem to do anything.
>
> Insights please?
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Bruce
> 847.404.5092
>
> Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone.
>
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Stus-List 37/40+ What does small switch on ceiling do?

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all!

I'm guessing Josh or one of you other brilliant folks with 37/40+ C&Cs will be 
able to guide me.  There is a small switch above the table near the forward 
bulkhead.  I can't seem to figure out what it does.  Presumably it is for an 
overhead light, but I don't see anything that isn't already controlled by a 
switch, and the switch doesn't seem to do anything.

Insights please?

Kindest Regards,

Bruce
847.404.5092

Please forgive any typos as this was sent from my iPhone.

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Stus-List Floor Board Stain - Update

[robert via CnC-List]

Option 3, bleach the teak and holy floor board, worked.  Removed the 
entire floor board finish with a paint stripper, wiped with a paint 
thinner.washed with oxilac acid and gently rubbed with the grain 
with a fine (000) steel woolbrought the water stain out and left the 
entire board blemish free.   Dried in the sun for over an hour and then 
applied first coat of new finish.


Quite happy with the result.   Thank you to the lister(s) for providing 
me with Option 3.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

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