Re: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Joel,

You may want to have a look at these two articles:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0419/9489/files/PS1312_War_Against_Head_Odors_2_reprint1404_web.pdf
(why it shows up as Shopify, I have no clue, but it is a Practical Sailor’s 
review of  sanitation hoses and it is a PDF, so you can keep it. They say that 
Trident 101/102 is not necessarily the best option, though it is the cheapest 
of the good ones. If you have tight corners, Raritan might be a better option. 
Keep in mind that this article is a bit dated (Dec 2013).

https://www.practical-sailor.com/blog/More-Great-Tips-for-Stopping-Boat-Stink-10852-1.html
 - this is a bit of a guide that you probably want to read before you start the 
project.

Marek

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

Glad I asked!  I’ll defer to the collective wisdom and go with the 101/102. 
I’ll borrow a small angle grinder to speed the process. This is not a job I 
want to repeat!

The Raritan valve is worth a look too.

Joel

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 6:37 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
We replaced the Y Valve on Alera this year.  Went for the Raritan Tru-Desoign 
Manual Aquavalve 
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/raritan-tru-design-manual-aquavalve-y-valve-td90314w

Love it.  Solid, positive and smoooth!

Our old Bosworth Y-Valve was shitty ;)

¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y valves in both
heads.

Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150.  Any reason
this is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to split a roll?  (Beats
10/foot at the local stores)

Looking for recommendations on a Y valve.  The bosworth seems like a good
option.  Anyone use them?
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Re: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

A heat gun and some liquid soap will help with getting the hoses on. 
Danny


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 Date: 11/6/17  7:51 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves 
Glad I asked!  I’ll defer to the collective wisdom and go with the 101/102. 
I’ll borrow a small angle grinder to speed the process. This is not a job I 
want to repeat!
The Raritan valve is worth a look too. 
Joel 
On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 6:37 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 wrote:


We replaced the Y Valve on Alera this year.  Went for
the Raritan Tru-Desoign Manual Aquavalve

https://www.fisheriessupply.com/raritan-tru-design-manual-aquavalve-y-valve-td90314w



Love it.  Solid, positive and smoooth!


Our old Bosworth Y-Valve was shitty ;)



¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.

Tom Buscaglia

SV Alera

C&C 37+/40

Vashon Island WA

(206) 463-9200

www.sv-alera.com






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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 13:59:50 -0500

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This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y valves in
both

heads.


Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150.  Any
reason

this is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to split a
roll?  (Beats

10/foot at the local stores)


Looking for recommendations on a Y valve.  The bosworth seems like a
good

option.  Anyone use them?


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Re: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Glad I asked!  I’ll defer to the collective wisdom and go with the 101/102.
I’ll borrow a small angle grinder to speed the process. This is not a job I
want to repeat!

The Raritan valve is worth a look too.

Joel

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 6:37 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We replaced the Y Valve on Alera this year.  Went for the Raritan
> Tru-Desoign Manual Aquavalve
> https://www.fisheriessupply.com/raritan-tru-design-manual-aquavalve-y-valve-td90314w
>
> Love it.  Solid, positive and smoooth!
>
> Our old Bosworth Y-Valve was shitty ;)
>
> ¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C&C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
>
>
> At 01:21 PM 11/6/2017, you wrote:
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 13:59:50 -0500
> From: Joel Aronson 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves
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>
> This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y valves in both
> heads.
>
> Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150.  Any reason
> this is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to split a roll?  (Beats
> 10/foot at the local stores)
>
> Looking for recommendations on a Y valve.  The bosworth seems like a good
> option.  Anyone use them?
>
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Stus-List Sanitation hose with wire

[robert via CnC-List]

Several of the hoses on my boat that are wired, I know because I either 
put them there in the first place and/or replaced them, e.g. sanitation, 
exhaust, scupper, etc.no hard or 90 deg. angle to try to 
attach.like Paul E. cut with a hack saw, trim if necessary.I was 
led to understand that these critical hoses should never get crushed, 
obstructed, closed for any reason and therefore the wired hose was the 
safest way to go.harder to compress a wired to stop the flow.


As for the Y-valve, I installed one on the boat 12 years ago and would 
have to go to it to find out what brand/model it waswill get there 
this week and get backbeen there 12 years and works fine for what 
that is worth.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-11-06 6:51 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List wrote:
I never had a problem with wired hose.  I use a hack saw to cut and 
then clip the wire back so there is no exposure.   In addition to 101 
sanitation hose, I use the wired 250 hose for the exhaust line before 
and after the lift muffler, and I also use 250 hose for main scuppers 
which have below waterline thru-hulls.   I do admit that I use the 200 
series hose (no wire) for sink drains to seacocks.



-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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 wrote:


Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 16:24:39 -0500
From: Joel Aronson >
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com " 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>

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Danny,

PIA to cut and the exposed end rusts.

Joel




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Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

We replaced the Y Valve on Alera this year.  Went 
for the Raritan Tru-Desoign Manual Aquavalve 
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/raritan-tru-design-manual-aquavalve-y-valve-td90314w


Love it.  Solid, positive and smoooth!

Our old Bosworth Y-Valve was shitty ;)


¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 13:59:50 -0500
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This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y valves in both
heads.

Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150.  Any reason
this is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to split a roll?  (Beats
10/foot at the local stores)

Looking for recommendations on a Y valve.  The bosworth seems like a good
option.  Anyone use them?

--


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Re: Stus-List Raymarine instrument covers

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Bruce,

I have one or two of these which I no longer need.  Send me your address off 
list, and I?ll send them to you.

-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/


> On Nov 6, 2017, at 5:17 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 22:06:05 + (UTC)
> From: Bruce Whitmore    >>
> To: C&C List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> >>
> Subject: Stus-List Raymarine instrument covers
> Message-ID: <1647053502.3239765.1510005965...@mail.yahoo.com 
>  
>  >>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hello all,? 
> 
> We got to the boat over the weekend and found one of the small square 
> instrument covers for our Raymarine instruments (ST60+, etc.) had evidently 
> got blown off.? One was gone, another was loose.? 
> 
> These things are $20+ shipping.? Pretty stupidly priced for a piece of 
> plastic IMHO.? 
> 
> I don't necessarily mind replacing one of them, but I'm concerned about 
> having to do so multiple times.
> 
> Anyone have a better solution?
> Thanks!?Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net  
> >

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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 142, Issue 21

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Bruce,

I have one or two of these which I no longer need.  Send me your address off 
list, and I’ll send them to you.

-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Nov 6, 2017, at 5:17 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 22:06:05 + (UTC)
> From: Bruce Whitmore  >
> To: C&C List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List Raymarine instrument covers
> Message-ID: <1647053502.3239765.1510005965...@mail.yahoo.com 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hello all,? 
> 
> We got to the boat over the weekend and found one of the small square 
> instrument covers for our Raymarine instruments (ST60+, etc.) had evidently 
> got blown off.? One was gone, another was loose.? 
> 
> These things are $20+ shipping.? Pretty stupidly priced for a piece of 
> plastic IMHO.? 
> 
> I don't necessarily mind replacing one of them, but I'm concerned about 
> having to do so multiple times.
> 
> Anyone have a better solution?
> Thanks!?Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net 
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Re: Stus-List Sanitation hose with wire

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

I never had a problem with wired hose.  I use a hack saw to cut and then clip 
the wire back so there is no exposure.   In addition to 101 sanitation hose, I 
use the wired 250 hose for the exhaust line before and after the lift muffler, 
and I also use 250 hose for main scuppers which have below waterline 
thru-hulls.   I do admit that I use the 200 series hose (no wire) for sink 
drains to seacocks.


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Nov 6, 2017, at 5:17 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 16:24:39 -0500
> From: Joel Aronson mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com " 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves
> Message-ID:
>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Danny,
> 
> PIA to cut and the exposed end rusts.
> 
> Joel

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Re: Stus-List Raymarine instrument covers

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

The covers on my Nexus instruments loosened with time.  I just put some
duct tape around the inside to make them fit tighter.  Has worked for 10+
years.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> We got to the boat over the weekend and found one of the small square
> instrument covers for our Raymarine instruments (ST60+, etc.) had evidently
> got blown off.  One was gone, another was loose.
>
> These things are $20+ shipping.  Pretty stupidly priced for a piece of
> plastic IMHO.
>
> I don't necessarily mind replacing one of them, but I'm concerned about
> having to do so multiple times.
>
> Anyone have a better solution?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
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Stus-List Bosworth Y-valve

[kelly petew via CnC-List]

Last season, I replaced my Bosworth Y-valve with the same model.  The handle 
broke off in my hand.  It was my fault - lack of lubrication.

I spoke directly with someone at Bosworth, but can't recall her name.  She was 
very helpful in making sure I got the correct valve.  I think I emailed pics to 
aid in selecting the correct valve.


While I was worried about the process of replacing the [probably original] 
valve, [e.g., limited access, the difficulty of removing the old part, etc.], 
it wasn't that hard.


Good luck with the project.


Pete W.

Siren Song

C&C 30 MKII

Deltaville, VA.
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Re: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Joel,

I have to agree with Danny.  Trident 101 (or the white 102) is a much better 
hose that Trident 140.  I have worked with both and honestly I think working 
with the white PVC sanitation hoses (i.e. 140) is a much great pain in the ass. 
 

As for Y-valves, I have been real happy with the Jabsco Y-valve


Here is a quote from Maine Sail on Sailnet regarding sanitation hoses. 


=
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do yourselves a favor and STOP USING THE WHITE PVC 
SANITATION HOSE 
.
 Unless you want to throw your hard earned money straight out the window this 
stuff is PURE GARBAGE. It can odor permeate in as little as 12 months but 
almost always in less than 2 years.

DO NOT USE:
Trident #148
Trident #140
Shields  #144
Shields #148
Clear PVC Anything

The above hoses are pure unadulterated JUNK and a wallet draining rip off. 
Please stop supporting the companies that make this crap by purchasing it. It 
is NOT a sanitation hose 

 no matter what they tell you.. If you want your vessel to smell like a 
cess-pool go for it, otherwise use Trident #101 or Trident #102.

Do Use:
Trident #101 (black) 
Trident #102 (white)




-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Nov 6, 2017, at 4:21 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 13:59:50 -0500
> From: Joel Aronson mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com>>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com " 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves
> Message-ID:
>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y valves in both
> heads.
> 
> Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150.  Any reason
> this is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to split a roll?  (Beats
> 10/foot at the local stores)
> 
> Looking for recommendations on a Y valve.  The bosworth seems like a good
> option.  Anyone use them?
> 
> -- 
> Joel
> 301 541 8551

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Re: Stus-List Raymarine instrument covers

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

If your instruments are bulkhead mounted, Sew a piece of Sunbrella and
mount it to the bulkhead with snaps or other fittings so that it covers all
of the instruments.  No need for individual covers.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> We got to the boat over the weekend and found one of the small square
> instrument covers for our Raymarine instruments (ST60+, etc.) had evidently
> got blown off.  One was gone, another was loose.
>
> These things are $20+ shipping.  Pretty stupidly priced for a piece of
> plastic IMHO.
>
> I don't necessarily mind replacing one of them, but I'm concerned about
> having to do so multiple times.
>
> Anyone have a better solution?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
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Stus-List Raymarine instrument covers

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all,  

We got to the boat over the weekend and found one of the small square 
instrument covers for our Raymarine instruments (ST60+, etc.) had evidently got 
blown off.  One was gone, another was loose.  

These things are $20+ shipping.  Pretty stupidly priced for a piece of plastic 
IMHO.  

I don't necessarily mind replacing one of them, but I'm concerned about having 
to do so multiple times.

Anyone have a better solution?
Thanks! Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Danny,

PIA to cut and the exposed end rusts.

Joel

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Joel,
>
> I'm no help on the valve, I just reused the one that was there.  Any
> reason you're against the wire in the hose, just curious?
>
> Danny
>
> On 11/6/2017 4:13 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Danny,
>
> With all due respect to Peggy, I don't like wire reinforced hoses.  Any
> thoughts on the y valve?
>
> Joel
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> trident 101 and 102 is what Peggie Hall recommends and what I used.
>> Although I did use 148 for the vents
>>
>> Danny
>>
>> On 11/6/2017 1:59 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y valves in
>> both heads.
>>
>> Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150.  Any
>> reason this is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to split a roll?
>> (Beats 10/foot at the local stores)
>>
>> Looking for recommendations on a Y valve.  The bosworth seems like a good
>> option.  Anyone use them?
>>
>> --
>> Joel
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Re: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Joel,

I'm no help on the valve, I just reused the one that was there. Any 
reason you're against the wire in the hose, just curious?


Danny


On 11/6/2017 4:13 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:

Danny,

With all due respect to Peggy, I don't like wire reinforced hoses.  
Any thoughts on the y valve?


Joel

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


trident 101 and 102 is what Peggie Hall recommends and what I
used.  Although I did use 148 for the vents

Danny


On 11/6/2017 1:59 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:

This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y
valves in both heads.

Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150. 
Any reason this is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to
split a roll?  (Beats 10/foot at the local stores)

Looking for recommendations on a Y valve. The bosworth seems like
a good option.  Anyone use them?

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[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Danny,

With all due respect to Peggy, I don't like wire reinforced hoses.  Any
thoughts on the y valve?

Joel

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> trident 101 and 102 is what Peggie Hall recommends and what I used.
> Although I did use 148 for the vents
>
> Danny
>
> On 11/6/2017 1:59 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
>
> This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y valves in both
> heads.
>
> Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150.  Any reason
> this is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to split a roll?  (Beats
> 10/foot at the local stores)
>
> Looking for recommendations on a Y valve.  The bosworth seems like a good
> option.  Anyone use them?
>
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Re: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

trident 101 and 102 is what Peggie Hall recommends and what I used.  
Although I did use 148 for the vents


Danny


On 11/6/2017 1:59 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y valves in 
both heads.


Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150.  Any 
reason this is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to split a 
roll?  (Beats 10/foot at the local stores)


Looking for recommendations on a Y valve.  The bosworth seems like a 
good option.  Anyone use them?


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Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

[Eric Frank via CnC-List]

Joe and Joel,
I have used ShipModul Miniplex2 for many years to send NMEA data from the chart 
plotter at the helm to MacENC to a Mac laptop using USB, but more recently 
using it to convert the NMEA to wifi so it can be sent to an iPad.  I’ve been 
using iNavX on the iPad, but probably other software works as well. You connect 
the iPad to the Wifi name and then tell iNavX what host and port that the 
Miniplex is transmitting on.  Explained clearly in the iNavX program.  Seems to 
work very well.

Eric
Cats Paw
Mattapoisett, MA


> On Nov 6, 2017, at 11:01 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com " 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Joe,
> 
> Please let me know how the NMEA WiFi bridge works.  Could be much simpler
> than what I am trying to do with Signal K  and a router.
> 
> Joel
> 

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[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

There was a Practical Sailor evaluation of Y-valves a few years ago.

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 1:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y valves in both 
heads. 

Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150.  Any reason this 
is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to split a roll?  (Beats 10/foot 
at the local stores)

Looking for recommendations on a Y valve.  The bosworth seems like a good 
option.  Anyone use them?  


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Stus-List Sanitation hose and Y valves

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

This winter I am going to replace the sanitation hose and Y valves in both
heads.

Amazon has a 50 foot roll of 140 series Trident hose for $150.  Any reason
this is the wrong hose?  Anyone in Annapolis want to split a roll?  (Beats
10/foot at the local stores)

Looking for recommendations on a Y valve.  The bosworth seems like a good
option.  Anyone use them?

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Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi

I run Navionics on three Idevices.  The software and the chart subscription 
share as one as long as they are all in the Apple Family Share. 

My Raymarine is a separate Navionics chart subscription. Tried directly with 
appeal to them... no

The Raymarine MFD wifi iPad app puts the iPad in as a dumb repeater from MFD.. 

THE Navionics app and the Raymarine app do not talk to each other... someday?

New is the opportunity to share tracks and waypoints somehow, email I think. 
Live mirroring is not enabled. 

QUESTION
Anyone have Navionics on more than one device? When I got the IPad on my 
account I have every single app ready to port over that I have on the phone 
including Navionics Hiking, but NOT the Navionics marine navigation app? Is 
this some Apple malfunction or is Navionics trying to get paid twice? If I have 
to buy it again, I can get INAV-X for about half the price.

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Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

That may have been SAR (search and rescue).

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Speaking of which, there is at least one airplane flying around with AIS. 
> Freaked me out the first time I saw a 99 knot “boat” hit dry land and keep 
> going! I had a weird symbol, maybe an circle with an X IIRC/

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Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I just ordered this: 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NMEA-0183-to-WiFi-BRIDGE-/182598371832
$37 or so US dollars shipped free from Australia. They have two NMEA channel 
versions too.
I was tempted to stick the AIS in my car and drive over the Bay Bridge, it 
surely will get picked up 200 feet in the air, but then thought of a tanker 
hitting a cruise ship and then they both hit the bridge and knock it over while 
avoiding getting rammed by the westbound boat doing 60 knots made me rethink my 
plan.
Speaking of which, there is at least one airplane flying around with AIS. 
Freaked me out the first time I saw a 99 knot “boat” hit dry land and keep 
going! I had a weird symbol, maybe an circle with an X IIRC/



Joe Della Barba
Coquina


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 10:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

Joe,

Look for yourself on Marine Traffic.  Or let me know when the unit has been on 
for a while.

Please let me know how the NMEA WiFi bridge works.  Could be much simpler than 
what I am trying to do with Signal K  and a router.

Joel

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have the AIS unit now. I wish I hadn’t been so quick to ship the old one, I 
would like to see it work and apparently I have no shore station in reach of my 
location at the dock. All the lights are good, the diagnostics are all good, 
and it says it is transmitting. I guess I have to get out from behind the 
buildings and out in the Bay to actually see myself online.
Another question has come up. I just got an old Gen 2 IPad I am going to try 
along with my other toys. It is the Wi-Fi version, no GPS built in. So I 
ordered a NMEA>WIFI bridge from FleaBay that should allow this, and my phone, 
to get the GPS and AIS data. Two questions:

1.   Has anyone used the Navionics app with Wi-Fi data like this? The app 
itself isn’t real helpful, it basically says connect your device and it will 
work. Well thanks for that tip!

2.   Anyone have Navionics on more than one device? When I got the IPad on 
my account I have every single app ready to port over that I have on the phone 
including Navionics Hiking, but NOT the Navionics marine navigation app? Is 
this some Apple malfunction or is Navionics trying to get paid twice? If I have 
to buy it again, I can get INAV-X for about half the price.

Thanks
Joe
Coquina

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Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:13 PM
To: C&C mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: ALAN BERGEN mailto:trya...@alumni.usc.edu>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

Joe:
I have an AIT2000 and Raymarine C80 MFD. The AIS out goes to the C80 NMEA 0183 
in and the AIS in goes to the C80 out.  Since I have a separate GPS, that 
connects to my VHF for the DSC connection.  I use a separate VHF antenna for 
the AIS, and it can be used as a VHF antenna in case I ever lose my mast.   I 
had difficulty connecting the AIS to my laptop (something to do with the 
software I'm using), so I connected my GPS to the laptop as well as to the 
VHF/DSC connections.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
The old AIS was tested on my Sunday afternoon sail and got about 15 targets. It 
is now off the boat to be shipped to its new owner. The new one is on the way, 
a Digital Yacht AIT1500. So now I need to redo the various NMEA connections and 
the first thing I am trying to figure is the DSC-in signals. The VHF has a 
DSC-out and apparently the new AIS does too, but it does not seem to be 
documented. The manual mentions once receiver switches back and forth between 
DSC and AIS, but does not mention what sentences it sends out or on what 
outputs. My initial plan is to have the VHF DSC out go to the AIS NMEA in and 
then it can combine DSC messages it hears with whatever the AIS picks up. I am 
planning for now for the AIS to provide data for the nav computer and VHF, the 
cockpit plotter will get the AIS info from the AIS and GPS data either from its 
own receiver or the AIS unit, and the APRS will have its own low power GPS so I 
can turn everything off but APRS when I am not on the boat. More to follow, but 
that is plan so far.  One frustration is for some reason the CP180 plotter will 
NOT take a GPS fix on any input but 4800 baud port 3, so even though the AIS 
will send all the GPS data along with AIS on 38K baud, the plotter won’t read 
the GPS sentences at that speed on ports 1 or 2. OpenCPN has no such 
restriction, so one connection will do for that.

Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

Joe,

I bought a Bad Elf for my iPad mini original, worked fine (does with my mini 4 
as well, but it also has a built in GPS receiver) with the navionics app and 
mapsme. The Navionics app works on both my iPhone and iPad – both are ties to 
the same apple account, so just 1 subscription so far, and both connect to my 
Ray eS7.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 10:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

I have the AIS unit now. I wish I hadn’t been so quick to ship the old one, I 
would like to see it work and apparently I have no shore station in reach of my 
location at the dock. All the lights are good, the diagnostics are all good, 
and it says it is transmitting. I guess I have to get out from behind the 
buildings and out in the Bay to actually see myself online.
Another question has come up. I just got an old Gen 2 IPad I am going to try 
along with my other toys. It is the Wi-Fi version, no GPS built in. So I 
ordered a NMEA>WIFI bridge from FleaBay that should allow this, and my phone, 
to get the GPS and AIS data. Two questions:

1.   Has anyone used the Navionics app with Wi-Fi data like this? The app 
itself isn’t real helpful, it basically says connect your device and it will 
work. Well thanks for that tip!

2.   Anyone have Navionics on more than one device? When I got the IPad on 
my account I have every single app ready to port over that I have on the phone 
including Navionics Hiking, but NOT the Navionics marine navigation app? Is 
this some Apple malfunction or is Navionics trying to get paid twice? If I have 
to buy it again, I can get INAV-X for about half the price.

Thanks
Joe
Coquina

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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:13 PM
To: C&C mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: ALAN BERGEN mailto:trya...@alumni.usc.edu>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

Joe:
I have an AIT2000 and Raymarine C80 MFD. The AIS out goes to the C80 NMEA 0183 
in and the AIS in goes to the C80 out.  Since I have a separate GPS, that 
connects to my VHF for the DSC connection.  I use a separate VHF antenna for 
the AIS, and it can be used as a VHF antenna in case I ever lose my mast.   I 
had difficulty connecting the AIS to my laptop (something to do with the 
software I'm using), so I connected my GPS to the laptop as well as to the 
VHF/DSC connections.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
The old AIS was tested on my Sunday afternoon sail and got about 15 targets. It 
is now off the boat to be shipped to its new owner. The new one is on the way, 
a Digital Yacht AIT1500. So now I need to redo the various NMEA connections and 
the first thing I am trying to figure is the DSC-in signals. The VHF has a 
DSC-out and apparently the new AIS does too, but it does not seem to be 
documented. The manual mentions once receiver switches back and forth between 
DSC and AIS, but does not mention what sentences it sends out or on what 
outputs. My initial plan is to have the VHF DSC out go to the AIS NMEA in and 
then it can combine DSC messages it hears with whatever the AIS picks up. I am 
planning for now for the AIS to provide data for the nav computer and VHF, the 
cockpit plotter will get the AIS info from the AIS and GPS data either from its 
own receiver or the AIS unit, and the APRS will have its own low power GPS so I 
can turn everything off but APRS when I am not on the boat. More to follow, but 
that is plan so far.  One frustration is for some reason the CP180 plotter will 
NOT take a GPS fix on any input but 4800 baud port 3, so even though the AIS 
will send all the GPS data along with AIS on 38K baud, the plotter won’t read 
the GPS sentences at that speed on ports 1 or 2. OpenCPN has no such 
restriction, so one connection will do for that.

Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Joe,

Look for yourself on Marine Traffic.  Or let me know when the unit has been
on for a while.

Please let me know how the NMEA WiFi bridge works.  Could be much simpler
than what I am trying to do with Signal K  and a router.

Joel

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have the AIS unit now. I wish I hadn’t been so quick to ship the old
> one, I would like to see it work and apparently I have no shore station in
> reach of my location at the dock. All the lights are good, the diagnostics
> are all good, and it says it is transmitting. I guess I have to get out
> from behind the buildings and out in the Bay to actually see myself online.
>
> Another question has come up. I just got an old Gen 2 IPad I am going to
> try along with my other toys. It is the Wi-Fi version, no GPS built in. So
> I ordered a NMEA>WIFI bridge from FleaBay that should allow this, and my
> phone, to get the GPS and AIS data. Two questions:
>
> 1.   Has anyone used the Navionics app with Wi-Fi data like this? The
> app itself isn’t real helpful, it basically says connect your device and it
> will work. Well thanks for that tip!
>
> 2.   Anyone have Navionics on more than one device? When I got the
> IPad on my account I have every single app ready to port over that I have
> on the phone including Navionics Hiking, but NOT the Navionics marine
> navigation app? Is this some Apple malfunction or is Navionics trying to
> get paid twice? If I have to buy it again, I can get INAV-X for about half
> the price.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *ALAN
> BERGEN via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 30, 2017 12:13 PM
> *To:* C&C 
> *Cc:* ALAN BERGEN 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring
>
>
>
> Joe:
>
> I have an AIT2000 and Raymarine C80 MFD. The AIS out goes to the C80 NMEA
> 0183 in and the AIS in goes to the C80 out.  Since I have a separate GPS,
> that connects to my VHF for the DSC connection.  I use a separate VHF
> antenna for the AIS, and it can be used as a VHF antenna in case I ever
> lose my mast.   I had difficulty connecting the AIS to my laptop (something
> to do with the software I'm using), so I connected my GPS to the laptop as
> well as to the VHF/DSC connections.
>
>
>
> Alan Bergen
>
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>
> Rose City YC
>
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> The old AIS was tested on my Sunday afternoon sail and got about 15
> targets. It is now off the boat to be shipped to its new owner. The new one
> is on the way, a Digital Yacht AIT1500. So now I need to redo the various
> NMEA connections and the first thing I am trying to figure is the DSC-in
> signals. The VHF has a DSC-out and apparently the new AIS does too, but it
> does not seem to be documented. The manual mentions once receiver switches
> back and forth between DSC and AIS, but does not mention what sentences it
> sends out or on what outputs. My initial plan is to have the VHF DSC out go
> to the AIS NMEA in and then it can combine DSC messages it hears with
> whatever the AIS picks up. I am planning for now for the AIS to provide
> data for the nav computer and VHF, the cockpit plotter will get the AIS
> info from the AIS and GPS data either from its own receiver or the AIS
> unit, and the APRS will have its own low power GPS so I can turn everything
> off but APRS when I am not on the boat. More to follow, but that is plan so
> far.  One frustration is for some reason the CP180 plotter will NOT take a
> GPS fix on any input but 4800 baud port 3, so even though the AIS will send
> all the GPS data along with AIS on 38K baud, the plotter won’t read the GPS
> sentences at that speed on ports 1 or 2. OpenCPN has no such restriction,
> so one connection will do for that.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Silicone residue...

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Practical Sailor did a test on adhesive removers in the January 2017 issue.  
They recommend Re-Mov Silicone and Adhesive Remover.  Below is a quote from the 
test results:


Re-Mov Silicone and Adhesive Remover

This remover was our most effective overall for removing both silicone caulk 
residue and polyurethane adhesive. According to the maker, Re-Mov will debond 
polyurethane-bedded hardware even if it has been in place for years. While we 
found it a bit slower acting than other products, the end results were truly 
impressive. Two applications, 15 minutes apart, a few quick passes with a 
plastic scraper, 20 seconds scrubbing with a bristle brush, and a good wash 
with soap and water, eliminated all the silicone from a textured deck, allowing 
it to match original bond strength.

If we had a bonding or coating job in which silicone contamination of the 
surface was suspected, this would be our antidote. Polyurethane caulk was a 
tougher challenge, but it did allow us to remove the caulk without damaging the 
gelcoat.

Bottom line: Re-Mov is the PS Best Choice and Budget Buy for removing silicone 
or polyurethane caulk.






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Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have the AIS unit now. I wish I hadn’t been so quick to ship the old one, I 
would like to see it work and apparently I have no shore station in reach of my 
location at the dock. All the lights are good, the diagnostics are all good, 
and it says it is transmitting. I guess I have to get out from behind the 
buildings and out in the Bay to actually see myself online.
Another question has come up. I just got an old Gen 2 IPad I am going to try 
along with my other toys. It is the Wi-Fi version, no GPS built in. So I 
ordered a NMEA>WIFI bridge from FleaBay that should allow this, and my phone, 
to get the GPS and AIS data. Two questions:

1.   Has anyone used the Navionics app with Wi-Fi data like this? The app 
itself isn’t real helpful, it basically says connect your device and it will 
work. Well thanks for that tip!

2.   Anyone have Navionics on more than one device? When I got the IPad on 
my account I have every single app ready to port over that I have on the phone 
including Navionics Hiking, but NOT the Navionics marine navigation app? Is 
this some Apple malfunction or is Navionics trying to get paid twice? If I have 
to buy it again, I can get INAV-X for about half the price.

Thanks
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN 
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:13 PM
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Cc: ALAN BERGEN 
Subject: Re: Stus-List AIS improvement + general rewiring

Joe:
I have an AIT2000 and Raymarine C80 MFD. The AIS out goes to the C80 NMEA 0183 
in and the AIS in goes to the C80 out.  Since I have a separate GPS, that 
connects to my VHF for the DSC connection.  I use a separate VHF antenna for 
the AIS, and it can be used as a VHF antenna in case I ever lose my mast.   I 
had difficulty connecting the AIS to my laptop (something to do with the 
software I'm using), so I connected my GPS to the laptop as well as to the 
VHF/DSC connections.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
The old AIS was tested on my Sunday afternoon sail and got about 15 targets. It 
is now off the boat to be shipped to its new owner. The new one is on the way, 
a Digital Yacht AIT1500. So now I need to redo the various NMEA connections and 
the first thing I am trying to figure is the DSC-in signals. The VHF has a 
DSC-out and apparently the new AIS does too, but it does not seem to be 
documented. The manual mentions once receiver switches back and forth between 
DSC and AIS, but does not mention what sentences it sends out or on what 
outputs. My initial plan is to have the VHF DSC out go to the AIS NMEA in and 
then it can combine DSC messages it hears with whatever the AIS picks up. I am 
planning for now for the AIS to provide data for the nav computer and VHF, the 
cockpit plotter will get the AIS info from the AIS and GPS data either from its 
own receiver or the AIS unit, and the APRS will have its own low power GPS so I 
can turn everything off but APRS when I am not on the boat. More to follow, but 
that is plan so far.  One frustration is for some reason the CP180 plotter will 
NOT take a GPS fix on any input but 4800 baud port 3, so even though the AIS 
will send all the GPS data along with AIS on 38K baud, the plotter won’t read 
the GPS sentences at that speed on ports 1 or 2. OpenCPN has no such 
restriction, so one connection will do for that.

Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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Re: Stus-List diesel additive

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

FYI  - Biobor kills algae, which is good if you don’t have any yet. If you have 
it already and it is sticking to the tank walls, once it dies it might get 
loose and clog your filters.
I wouldn’t try this with a modern diesel, but in really cold weather I added 
about ½ gallon of gasoline per tank to my old Mercedes 300D and it seemed to do 
the trick to prevent gelling. One of my friends for a joke dumped a bottle of 
scented lamp oil in the fuel. It failed, the car still was stinky as ever.
Joe
Coquina

* trivia fact, turbine and diesel airplanes would have better range on diesel, 
but it will gel in the cold at high altitudes, so mostly they run on kerosene.
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Re: Stus-List Silicone residue...

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I used a product called mckanica silicone remover.  I highly recommend it!  


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Mpcbi via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/5/17  8:09 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Mpcbi  Subject: Re: Stus-List Silicone 
residue... 
Try rubbing it off with vinegar on a well soaked rag, if the silicone is cured 
it should come off...worked on my acrylic bathtub!

Envoyé de mon iPad
Le 5 nov. 2017 à 19:55, coltrek via CnC-List  a écrit :



I think someone here on the list mentioned that it was called Stoddard solvent


Regards,
Bill

 Original message 
From: Randal Stafford via CnC-List  
Date: 11/5/17  14:45  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Randal Stafford  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Silicone residue... 

Coleman liquid fuel.

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On Nov 4, 2017, at 12:22 PM, David via CnC-List  wrote:






I know this has been answered before, but was is the solvent used to get rid of 
silicone from fibreglass?



Thanks in advance.  










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