Re: Stus-List Lewmar Ocean 1 adjustable genoa car pics

2018-01-10 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List

Dennis,

Sounds like a nice installation, great info.

Thanks

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 1/11/2018 12:19 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

Neil,

I put a 1/4 x 2 inch aluminum backing plate under the entire track.  
You can barely see it here outboard of the dome light:


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsRHhjNHhjNXhLM1k

The teak piece shown covered the fasteners on the old genoa track 
which was a piece of toe rail mounted at an angle forward of the 
primary winch.


Installing the plate was tricky.  Location was complicated because of 
the cabinetry.  On the starboard side the genoa track backing plate is 
inside the settee and galley slide storages.  On the port side it's 
inside the dinette slide storage but exposed aft of the navstation 
half bulkhead.


I cut away the headliner and drilled the holes in the deck 
(over-boring, filling and redrilling, of course).  I drilled a hole 
one bit oversized in one end of the backing plate and fastened it in 
place.  I had a helper hold the other end in place from underneath and 
used a drill from above to mark the hole for the other end.  Pulled 
the plate and drilled the other end hole, again, one bit size larger. 
We then fastened the plate in place with the two end fasteners and 
marked the remaining holes.  Drilled them all using one bit size 
larger to give a smidgen of clearance.


So, all the holes in the deck were the same size as the fastener but 
the holes in the backing plate were drilled one bit size larger.  This 
made installation a lot easier than if the backing plate holes were 
the same size as the fastener.  Doesn't reduce the strength of the 
plate much either.


Also have an inboard jib track.  It's a 2 foot track located forward 
of the genoa track.  Here's a pic of the jib track forward of the 
genoa track.


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsLUdmNFgySXVSRDg

It's located inboard of the slide storages.  Here's a pic of the teak 
cover for the jib track.


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsaEhUREJ0LXRDUTg

Same type of backing plate and install.  The nicely varnished teak 
cover is hollowed out for the track fasteners.  It is held in place by 
3 flat head machine screws which are tapped into the backing plate.


Any questions, just holler.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Dennis,

My 35-1 has never had inboard sheeting, something I've
contemplated adding.  What did you do for backing under the deck
for the tracks?

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 1/10/2018 8:45 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

I deleted the thread but somebody wanted pics of Touche's Lewmar
Ocean Size 1 line adjustable ball bearing genoa cars with 3:1
purchase.  Here's the links:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=17y3SA5c2HrYj3xJwHQo6XeLdz_ynIqpt 


https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n4vg1UCYXi5r0nJx8VD-UbVDE7WCqe-y 


Recommend 4:1 if you're considering these.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


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Re: Stus-List be careful out there!

2018-01-10 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List

Hey Joe,

That is normal clear weather dock conditions for 
a weekend boat check around here, just above the 
Pacific North West. Except we don't have none of 
those ice thingies. One of the reasons we don't 
mind the rain so much... no frost.


BTW, it doesn't matter how far away the ladder 
is. With water that cold you could fall in right 
next to the ladder and ya ain't getting yer own 
ass outta there. In a winter around here it isn't 
unusual to lose one or two old guys in a year, recovered in the marina.


Happy New Year & cheers,  Russ
East side, Vancouver Island
Sweet 35 mk-1

At 10:34 AM 10/01/2018, you wrote:

I went down to the boat last night to turn the 
ice eater off and turn the cabin heat down. It 
was above freezing all day, but a layer of dew 
settled on everything and the temperature had 
dropped from 33 to 30 as the sun set. A 
super-slick layer of ice froze onto everything 
including the dock and there are no ladders I 
can swim to if I fall  in that aren’t at least a couple hundred feet away.


Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List Lewmar Ocean 1 adjustable genoa car pics

2018-01-10 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Neil,

I put a 1/4 x 2 inch aluminum backing plate under the entire track.  You
can barely see it here outboard of the dome light:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsRHhjNHhjNXhLM1k

The teak piece shown covered the fasteners on the old genoa track which was
a piece of toe rail mounted at an angle forward of the primary winch.

Installing the plate was tricky.  Location was complicated because of the
cabinetry.  On the starboard side the genoa track backing plate is inside
the settee and galley slide storages.  On the port side it's inside the
dinette slide storage but exposed aft of the navstation half bulkhead.

I cut away the headliner and drilled the holes in the deck (over-boring,
filling and redrilling, of course).  I drilled a hole one bit oversized in
one end of the backing plate and fastened it in place.  I had a helper hold
the other end in place from underneath and used a drill from above to mark
the hole for the other end.  Pulled the plate and drilled the other end
hole, again, one bit size larger.  We then fastened the plate in place with
the two end fasteners and marked the remaining holes.  Drilled them all
using one bit size larger to give a smidgen of clearance.

So, all the holes in the deck were the same size as the fastener but the
holes in the backing plate were drilled one bit size larger.  This made
installation a lot easier than if the backing plate holes were the same
size as the fastener.  Doesn't reduce the strength of the plate much either.

Also have an inboard jib track.  It's a 2 foot track located forward of the
genoa track.  Here's a pic of the jib track forward of the genoa track.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsLUdmNFgySXVSRDg

It's located inboard of the slide storages.  Here's a pic of the teak cover
for the jib track.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsaEhUREJ0LXRDUTg

Same type of backing plate and install.  The nicely varnished teak cover is
hollowed out for the track fasteners.  It is held in place by 3 flat head
machine screws which are tapped into the backing plate.

Any questions, just holler.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dennis,
>
> My 35-1 has never had inboard sheeting, something I've contemplated
> adding.  What did you do for backing under the deck for the tracks?
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
>
> On 1/10/2018 8:45 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I deleted the thread but somebody wanted pics of Touche's Lewmar Ocean
> Size 1 line adjustable ball bearing genoa cars with 3:1 purchase.  Here's
> the links:
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=17y3SA5c2HrYj3xJwHQo6XeLdz_ynIqpt
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n4vg1UCYXi5r0nJx8VD-UbVDE7WCqe-y
>
> Recommend 4:1 if you're considering these.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Lewmar Ocean 1 adjustable genoa car pics

2018-01-10 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List

Dennis,

My 35-1 has never had inboard sheeting, something I've contemplated 
adding.  What did you do for backing under the deck for the tracks?


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 1/10/2018 8:45 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
I deleted the thread but somebody wanted pics of Touche's Lewmar Ocean 
Size 1 line adjustable ball bearing genoa cars with 3:1 purchase.  
Here's the links:


https://drive.google.com/open?id=17y3SA5c2HrYj3xJwHQo6XeLdz_ynIqpt

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n4vg1UCYXi5r0nJx8VD-UbVDE7WCqe-y

Recommend 4:1 if you're considering these.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


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Re: Stus-List be careful out there!

2018-01-10 Thread coltrek via CnC-List


I am surprised your dehumidifier works at those temperatures. Usually they 
freeze up around 65 degrees and lower. My daughter and son-in-law lived on 
their boat for a couple of years in Baltimore. Have pictures of her in a 
Cossack hat  and coats after forgetting to leave the heater on. Pretty darn 
cold. She loved it tho. Him not so much. You must be a real Viking.
BillColeman C&C 39

 Original message 
From: David Morrison via CnC-List  
Date: 1/10/18  21:59  (GMT-05:00) 
To: "Della Barba,  Joe" , cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: David Morrison  
Subject: Re: Stus-List be careful out there! 

Living aboard here in New Haven this winter.  The agitator (situated at the 
bow) has been working overtime the past few weeks.  Hope to give it a break in 
the next day or to.  Bow is free but ice is rubbing on the rudder.  not good.
Other than the harbor freezing over living aboard has been easy.  Experiencing 
minimal condensation inside - hull is lined with wood strips and v-berth 
cushions are dry.  I also have a small dehumidifier running non stop.  Average 
inside temp for the past month is 52.0F.
--Dave1980 C&C 40 - Terrapin Flyer



 Original Message 

Subject: Stus-List be careful out there!

From: "Della Barba, Joe" 

Date: Wed, January 10, 2018 1:34 pm

To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 




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I went down to the boat last night to turn the ice eater off and turn the 
cabin heat down. It was above freezing all day, but a layer of dew settled on 
everything and the temperature had dropped from 33 to 30 as the sun set. A 
super-slick layer of ice froze onto everything including the dock and there are 
no ladders I can swim to if I fall  in that aren’t at least a couple hundred 
feet away.   Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I

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Re: Stus-List Nexus Race

2018-01-10 Thread pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List
Fair enough.

 

Anyone know of applications/tools that calculate Target Boat Speed/Angle from 
polars and broadcasts values over N2K?  And low cost? 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 2:46 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Nexus Race

 

Nope.  I have Nexus Classic instruments with a NMEA 0183 multiplexer with USB 
port.  Not sure I have a PC with an old enough version of Windows.

 

Thinking there are other programs out there that have same or better 
functionality.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandevile, LA

 

On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Anyone run Nexus Race?  And tie in with instruments?

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

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Re: Stus-List Lewmar Ocean 1 adjustable genoa car pics

2018-01-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Bruce,

What specifically were you looking for?  I may have already answered the
thread or overlooked it but I have the adjustable sheet leads in a 4:1
purchase.  Here's a picture:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yWGt0Z200N2h4Y0FpUVFVeGt4MXF1U1pvTUtr/view?usp=drivesdk

Let me know if you need more info.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 10:37 PM bwhitmore via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Thanks Dennis,
>
> I was the person looking for the photos, and they're really helpful.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
> Date: 1/10/18 7:45 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: CnClist 
> Cc: "Dennis C." 
> Subject: Stus-List Lewmar Ocean 1 adjustable genoa car pics
>
> I deleted the thread but somebody wanted pics of Touche's Lewmar Ocean
> Size 1 line adjustable ball bearing genoa cars with 3:1 purchase.  Here's
> the links:
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=17y3SA5c2HrYj3xJwHQo6XeLdz_ynIqpt
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n4vg1UCYXi5r0nJx8VD-UbVDE7WCqe-y
>
> Recommend 4:1 if you're considering these.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Lewmar Ocean 1 adjustable genoa car pics

2018-01-10 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
Thanks Dennis, 
I was the person looking for the photos, and they're really helpful.
Thank you very much,
Bruce Whitmore 1994 C&C 37/40+


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
 Date: 1/10/18  7:45 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: CnClist 
 Cc: "Dennis C."  Subject: Stus-List 
Lewmar Ocean 1 adjustable genoa car pics 
I deleted the thread but somebody wanted pics of Touche's Lewmar Ocean Size 1 
line adjustable ball bearing genoa cars with 3:1 purchase.  Here's the links:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17y3SA5c2HrYj3xJwHQo6XeLdz_ynIqpt

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n4vg1UCYXi5r0nJx8VD-UbVDE7WCqe-y

Recommend 4:1 if you're considering these.
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List be careful out there!

2018-01-10 Thread David Morrison via CnC-List
Living aboard here in New Haven this winter.  The agitator (situated at the bow) has been working overtime the past few weeks.  Hope to give it a break in the next day or to.  Bow is free but ice is rubbing on the rudder.  not good.Other than the harbor freezing over living aboard has been easy.  Experiencing minimal condensation inside - hull is lined with wood strips and v-berth cushions are dry.  I also have a small dehumidifier running non stop.  Average inside temp for the past month is 52.0F.--Dave1980 C&C 40 - Terrapin Flyer


 Original Message 
Subject: Stus-List be careful out there!
From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
Date: Wed, January 10, 2018 1:34 pm
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 

I went down to the boat last night to turn the ice eater off and turn the cabin heat down. It was above freezing all day, but a layer of dew settled on everything and the temperature had dropped from 33 to 30 as the sun set. A super-slick layer of ice froze onto everything including the dock and there are no ladders I can swim to if I fall  in that aren’t at least a couple hundred feet away.   Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I



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Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Halyard Parking Bracket

2018-01-10 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
APS sells them.
Joel

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:13 PM John McKay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I like this. A couple of times this past summer, the pit man was not fast
> enough getting the halyard secure and the chute dropped a few feet. Much
> more difficult to pull the chute up when it is full.
>
> John on Enterprise
> C&C 33 MK II
> Komoka Ontario
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, 8:53:45 PM EST, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> Here's pics of Touche' spinnaker halyard parking bracket.
>
> Halyard parked:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1l4zjGelVZFb6ovcoiTm1w8widYvuqKYz
>
> Halyard free to drop chute:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=12uMQiom3tJARYnkWPPhSPihdjNMxEYAG
>
> I think you can see how it works.  Mast person hoists chute with an
> outboard pulling motion.  Halyard "parks" in the cam cleat.  Once the chute
> is up, the mast person can move to other tasks.  The halyard remains
> "parked".  Later, the pit person can then take the slack out of the halyard
> and give it a pull.  The halyard pops out of the cam cleat into the "free"
> position.  It is then ready to drop the chute.  This assumes the boat has a
> cabin top rope clutch for the halyard.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Halyard Parking Bracket

2018-01-10 Thread John McKay via CnC-List
 I like this. A couple of times this past summer, the pit man was not fast 
enough getting the halyard secure and the chute dropped a few feet. Much more 
difficult to pull the chute up when it is full.
John on EnterpriseC&C 33 MK IIKomoka Ontario

On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, 8:53:45 PM EST, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 Here's pics of Touche' spinnaker halyard parking bracket.
Halyard parked:  
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1l4zjGelVZFb6ovcoiTm1w8widYvuqKYz
Halyard free to drop chute:  
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12uMQiom3tJARYnkWPPhSPihdjNMxEYAG
I think you can see how it works.  Mast person hoists chute with an outboard 
pulling motion.  Halyard "parks" in the cam cleat.  Once the chute is up, the 
mast person can move to other tasks.  The halyard remains "parked".  Later, the 
pit person can then take the slack out of the halyard and give it a pull.  The 
halyard pops out of the cam cleat into the "free" position.  It is then ready 
to drop the chute.  This assumes the boat has a cabin top rope clutch for the 
halyard.
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, 
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Stus-List Spinnaker Halyard Parking Bracket

2018-01-10 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Here's pics of Touche' spinnaker halyard parking bracket.

Halyard parked:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1l4zjGelVZFb6ovcoiTm1w8widYvuqKYz

Halyard free to drop chute:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12uMQiom3tJARYnkWPPhSPihdjNMxEYAG

I think you can see how it works.  Mast person hoists chute with an
outboard pulling motion.  Halyard "parks" in the cam cleat.  Once the chute
is up, the mast person can move to other tasks.  The halyard remains
"parked".  Later, the pit person can then take the slack out of the halyard
and give it a pull.  The halyard pops out of the cam cleat into the "free"
position.  It is then ready to drop the chute.  This assumes the boat has a
cabin top rope clutch for the halyard.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Lewmar Ocean 1 adjustable genoa car pics

2018-01-10 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I deleted the thread but somebody wanted pics of Touche's Lewmar Ocean Size
1 line adjustable ball bearing genoa cars with 3:1 purchase.  Here's the
links:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=17y3SA5c2HrYj3xJwHQo6XeLdz_ynIqpt

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n4vg1UCYXi5r0nJx8VD-UbVDE7WCqe-y

Recommend 4:1 if you're considering these.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List be careful out there!

2018-01-10 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Checked on Touche' today.  4 hours each way.  All OK.

Darn, I wanted to go sailing.  73F and partly cloudy.  No ice on pier.
None in refrigeration box either.  :)

Big change from last week.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
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> I went down to the boat last night to turn the ice eater off and turn the
> cabin heat down. It was above freezing all day, but a layer of dew settled
> on everything and the temperature had dropped from 33 to 30 as the sun set.
> A super-slick layer of ice froze onto everything including the dock and
> there are no ladders I can swim to if I fall  in that aren’t at least a
> couple hundred feet away.
>
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Re: Stus-List be careful out there!

2018-01-10 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Come up here to Minnesnowta, I’ll give you all the ice you need for free…!  And 
tell Rick I was born a Minnesotan, it’s not a lifestyle choice…   :^)

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:51 PM, detroito91 via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Ice? I do need some for my drink. Its y1 degrees
> Jim schwartz 
> SEA YA !
> 38 LF
> Washington nc 
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Re: Stus-List be careful out there!

2018-01-10 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List
Ice? I do need some for my drink. Its y1 degreesJim schwartz SEA YA !38 
LFWashington nc 
 Original message From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 Date: 1/10/18  3:16 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List be careful out there! 
Glad you made it!Checked on my boat this morning.  Dock was also slick.Ready 
for Spring!
Joel
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:








I went down to the boat last night to turn the ice eater off and turn the cabin 
heat down. It was above freezing all day, but a layer of dew settled on 
everything
 and the temperature had dropped from 33 to 30 as the sun set. A super-slick 
layer of ice froze onto everything including the dock and there are no ladders 
I can swim to if I fall  in that aren’t at least a couple hundred feet away.
 
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I




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Re: Stus-List be careful out there!

2018-01-10 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Glad you made it!
Checked on my boat this morning.  Dock was also slick.
Ready for Spring!

Joel

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I went down to the boat last night to turn the ice eater off and turn the
> cabin heat down. It was above freezing all day, but a layer of dew settled
> on everything and the temperature had dropped from 33 to 30 as the sun set.
> A super-slick layer of ice froze onto everything including the dock and
> there are no ladders I can swim to if I fall  in that aren’t at least a
> couple hundred feet away.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
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Stus-List be careful out there!

2018-01-10 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I went down to the boat last night to turn the ice eater off and turn the cabin 
heat down. It was above freezing all day, but a layer of dew settled on 
everything and the temperature had dropped from 33 to 30 as the sun set. A 
super-slick layer of ice froze onto everything including the dock and there are 
no ladders I can swim to if I fall  in that aren’t at least a couple hundred 
feet away.

Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C 36' - Fresh Water Tank Replacement

2018-01-10 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
But the way, I welded mine, and put a reasonably in-depth post about the 
process on the board a couple months ago.  The crack was about 10 inches long.  
If you're concerned about it reappearing, you can weld in a layer of stainless 
steel mesh like I did to reinforce the area.  If I could find a pro to do to 
for 50 - 75 bucks each, I'd probably have someone else more experienced do the 
job, as my final product looked a little sloppy.
That said, it's not a difficult process, and there's quite a few YouTube videos 
out there on the subject.  Finally, welding these types of tanks is actually 
pretty common, as there are a lot of agricultural tanks out there for 
commercial spraying jobs.
Good Luck!Bruce Whitmore1994 C&C 37/40+ Madiera Beach FL


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 Original message From: Tim Rutherford via CnC-List 
 Date: 1/10/18  8:04 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Tim Rutherford  
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C 36' - Fresh Water Tank Replacement 
Hi Steve,
I've asked my local boat yard for a quote and will let you know when I hear 
back from them. The tank on my boat is a Kracor model 1-5087, 19 gallons, as 
indicated on the label on one of the tanks. Both appear to be identical. The 
label on the second tank is unreadable.
--
Tim Rutherford
tim.rutherford.m...@gmail.com
813 748 4888 cel/text

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Same problem on my 36. Many leaking cracks. No reason to believe that welding 
them would not just result in new ones. Probably will try it anyway, but no 
confidence long term. Low molecular weight polyethylene.

Space is narrow, long, and triangular.

Not found a bladder tank that would be a good fit. Seems to me that an over 
large tank folded into the space would be a recipe for failure due to abrasion.

Did Kracor give any guidance on their price?



Steve Thomas

C&C36

Merritt Island, Fl



 Tim Rutherford via CnC-List  wrote:

Both 19 gallon tanks, port and starboard, are leaking in multiple

locations. They are vee-bottom four sided tanks with recesses in the top

where stiffeners under the cover plate fit. I tried plastic welding but the

results were questionable in terms of reliability.



The manufacturer, Kracor, says new ones can be made to order in 3-4 weeks

if I contact a local boat yard to place the order. This sounds expensive

and cumbersome.



What are my other options? Is it easy to contact a local tank company and

have a tank copied at a competitive cost and reasonable lead-time?



--

Tim Rutherford

Chamamé

C&C 36' - #244

tim.rutherford.m...@gmail.com

813 748 4888 cel/text





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Re: Stus-List 1981 C&C 36' - Fresh Water Tank Replacement

2018-01-10 Thread Tim Rutherford via CnC-List
Hi Steve,

I've asked my local boat yard for a quote and will let you know when I hear
back from them. The tank on my boat is a Kracor model 1-5087, 19 gallons,
as indicated on the label on one of the tanks. Both appear to be identical.
The label on the second tank is unreadable.

--
Tim Rutherford
tim.rutherford.m...@gmail.com
813 748 4888 cel/text

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Same problem on my 36. Many leaking cracks. No reason to believe that
> welding them would not just result in new ones. Probably will try it
> anyway, but no confidence long term. Low molecular weight polyethylene.
> Space is narrow, long, and triangular.
> Not found a bladder tank that would be a good fit. Seems to me that an
> over large tank folded into the space would be a recipe for failure due to
> abrasion.
> Did Kracor give any guidance on their price?
>
> Steve Thomas
> C&C36
> Merritt Island, Fl
>
>  Tim Rutherford via CnC-List  wrote:
> Both 19 gallon tanks, port and starboard, are leaking in multiple
> locations. They are vee-bottom four sided tanks with recesses in the top
> where stiffeners under the cover plate fit. I tried plastic welding but the
> results were questionable in terms of reliability.
>
> The manufacturer, Kracor, says new ones can be made to order in 3-4 weeks
> if I contact a local boat yard to place the order. This sounds expensive
> and cumbersome.
>
> What are my other options? Is it easy to contact a local tank company and
> have a tank copied at a competitive cost and reasonable lead-time?
>
> --
> Tim Rutherford
> Chamamé
> C&C 36' - #244
> tim.rutherford.m...@gmail.com
> 813 748 4888 cel/text
>
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Re: Stus-List c and c 38

2018-01-10 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
I replaced my tank - which, coincidentally, was about 35 years old – because I 
was looking for a source of persistent diesel smell and discovered some pinhole 
leaks on the bottom of the tank. The tank sat on a wooden platform with no air 
space or cushioning under the tank. So the pinholes were apparently the result 
of corrosion from moisture trapped between tank and wood.

 

When I reinstalled the new tank, I bought some 6”x6”x1/8” rubber squares used 
to make plumbing gaskets (about $.50 each at Lowes) and installed 5 or 6 of 
them under the tank to provide an air gap.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: robert [mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 9:52 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: c and c 38

 

I took my tank out last October on haulouthad a pin hole leak in my 33 year 
old aluminum tankkept the original tank with its fittingshad a machine 
shop weld a new bottom to my tank and at the time had them reduce the 'depth' 
of my tank by one inch.my original tank with the 'fittings specifically the 
infill connector' was a small fraction maybe 3/16" too big to get the tank out 
of the lazarettefinally I just pulled it outafter I noticed I had 
crushed the aluminum 90 deg elbow infill connector by the same 3/16" .no 
big deal...with the repaired now tank one inch smaller, getting it back in was 
a breeze.I went from 20 gals to say 18.5 galsnot a problem for me the 
way I use my boat and ability to refuel.

When I reinstalled my tank, all the 4 hose connections were really tightC&C 
didn't waste an inch on any hose when they built my boat.the one inch drop 
in tank height compelled me to either get all new longer hoses or loosen 
existing clamps holding the 4 hoses to bulkheadsI loosened the 
clampsnot as neat as before but not as costly and difficult as replacing 
all the hoses.  After I reclamped the tank to its holding station and loosening 
clamps to make the 4 hoses to connect, I then thought about putting one inch 
whatever under the tank to bring it back to its original position and the hose 
connections.but that's now 20/20 for this genius!

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

 

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