Re: Stus-List Composting head in 33-2?

[Dave. via CnC-List]

This info is great. We measured the head compartment and the airhead unit would 
fit. Just. Our biggest concerns are where to locate the vent and how to deal 
with the 24/7 need for electricity. How did you guys deal with these issues? 
SLY has no anchor locker in which to lead the vent nor shore power to support 
24/7 electrical consumption. A solar panel might work but here in the northwest 
we see precious little sun in the winter. And we are concerned that a deck led 
vent would allow water intrusion in rough weather. Thoughts?
Thanks again.
Dave.
SLY 1975 C&C 33

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> On Sep 30, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Robert Boyer  wrote:
> 
> We have had a composting head (Air Head) for several years now and love it.  
> It sits a little higher than a standard toilet but we got used to it.  We 
> live aboard and go south every winter and we have to empty the solids 
> container every 3 weeks (2 people).  As I recall, composting requires a temp 
> of at least 55 degrees F which is not a problem for us but could be for some 
> people who keep their boats in cold weather.  I have more info on my blog...
> 
> Bob
> 
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
> Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
> Annapolis, MD 
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Dave. via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dave.
>> I love your question and look forward to responses. We, on our 33-1 are 
>> looking at the same issue. In our case we have had no real holding tank (a 6 
>> gallon job which was never used) but have used an electro-scan Type 1 Marine 
>> Sanitation Device. As Puget Sound in now a no discharge zone we need to 
>> choose our next system. The composting head sounds like an interesting 
>> option but I too would like to here what others have experienced. They are 
>> not cheap but neither is a custom made holding tank. I’ve looked at the many 
>> prefabricated tanks and have not found one which would fit our situation.
>> Dave.
>> SLY
>> 1975 C&C 33
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2018, at 11:40 PM, Dave S via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone installed a composting head in a 33 or similar?
>>> Have been contemplating replacement of my stench-impregnated holding tank 
>>> and hoses and it was suggested I look at a composting head instead.  
>>> Very tempting for many reasons, plus a huge gain in interior space below 
>>> the v-berth.   
>>> my only concern is size of the unit itself and I wonder  if anyone has 
>>> already been down this road.   Any thoughts or guidance?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dave - windstar 33-2
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List years a C&C owner

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 We've owned the Wild Cheri since '87.  Might be too old now to move up to a 
35-2 which I think is beautiful.RonC&C 30-1STL
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

[ahycrace via CnC-List]

Gary Kolc. "Liberty"38 foot c&c 1976Hull #99Purchased 2002


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: james via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/30/18  8:08 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Don Kern via 
CnC-List  Cc: james  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question 

Thanks Don,
James Taylor
Delaney
1976 C&C 38 hull #100
Oriental, NC
Owned Since 2012, Second owner.




On 9/30/2018 7:07 PM, Don Kern via
  CnC-List wrote:


Being
  retired, and having a rainy day I put together a spread sheet
  (attached) from the replies to Jack's request.  Please let me know
  by email, if you want to be removed or want to make corrections to
  the list.  Rhis is a shorten list that does not include the second
  and third boats that folks have owned.
  

  

  I will send out an update as soon as the replies peter out.
  

  

  ps: What part of the C&C serial number is the hull number, the
  last three digits?
  

  

  Best regards,
  

  Don Kern
  

  Fireball - 12708
  

  1974 C&C 35 Mk2
  

  Bristol, RI 02809
  

  

  

  
  

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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 152, Issue 113

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

I have mold allergies.  So, I use this 30 pt. Dehumidifier (link below) along 
with an oil radiator type heater set at ~50 f.  I got a humidity/temp gauge 
that retains the average  and she maintains 35-40 percent humidity throughout 
our wet winters.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UWP07NI/ref=psdc_267557011_t3_B01I42EOGQ?th=1

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Sep 30, 2018, at 12:18 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:48:05 +0200
> From: Alan Liles 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mold prevention
> Message-ID: <22f90306-c1a7-42d2-83df-d16bf59be...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I have an Evadry dehumidifier that has run more or less constantly for three 
> years and it?s still going. It takes about 1/2 liter per week out of the air. 
> I need to run small heaters in the winter to prevent the dehumidifier from 
> freezing. One of my better purchases
> 
> Al Liles
> SV Elendil 
> Vancouver BC. 
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Re: Stus-List Ventilation -vetus?

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I have 3 of the 4" Marinco day/night vents installed on Imzadi, and will
probably install a 4th one the next time that West Marine has them on sale
for $99. One of the vents is in the hatch over the table in the main cabin,
the other two replaced the dorade boxes and cowl vents over the head and the
passage into the V berth. Two of the vents are set to bring air in, one is
exhaust.

Last winter was the first year that I had no problem with mold or mildew on
the teak, so I'm happy with the active ventilation. Dorades and cowl vents
really only work when the wind is significant, and th e head of the boat
stays into the wind. Very little airflow when the boat is in a slip and not
pointing into the wind.

Plus lines don't get caught on the powered dome vents and flip them into the
ocean.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 12:31 AM
To: C&c Stus List 
Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Stus-List Ventilation -vetus?

Have been contemplating better ventilating my 33-2.
One option is to add a day and night vent in either cabin or both.
Another is to do as the CS36 does, and that is to add a cowl vent to the
anchor locker hatch and a grill/air passage between the locker and the foot
of the v-berth.  (Anchor locker functions as a dorade box, plus you get some
air movement in the anchor locker) All the recent talk of lost cowl vents
makes me think that dome vents would be preferred.
Any thoughts on cabin ventilation?
Any experience with latest nicro/Marino or vetus UFO vents, solar or
passive?
Many thanks!
Dave - windstar 33-2


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Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

[pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List]

Don - 
Thanks for doing this.  Here's another line for your spreadsheet;

1984C&C 37  95  Celebration US52589 Bayfield, WI14  2004
Shelquist   PeteMinnetonka  MN  Apostle Islands Yacht Club  
36


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Don Kern via 
CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 6:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Don Kern 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

Being retired, and having a rainy day I put together a spread sheet
(attached) from the replies to Jack's request.  Please let me know by email, if 
you want to be removed or want to make corrections to the list.  Rhis is a 
shorten list that does not include the second and third boats that folks have 
owned.

I will send out an update as soon as the replies peter out.

ps: What part of the C&C serial number is the hull number, the last three 
digits?

Best regards,
Don Kern
Fireball - 12708
1974 C&C 35 Mk2
Bristol, RI 02809



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Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

[james via CnC-List]

Thanks Don,

James Taylor

Delaney

1976 C&C 38 hull #100

Oriental, NC

Owned Since 2012, Second owner.


On 9/30/2018 7:07 PM, Don Kern via CnC-List wrote:
Being retired, and having a rainy day I put together a spread sheet 
(attached) from the replies to Jack's request.  Please let me know by 
email, if you want to be removed or want to make corrections to the 
list.  Rhis is a shorten list that does not include the second and 
third boats that folks have owned.


I will send out an update as soon as the replies peter out.

ps: What part of the C&C serial number is the hull number, the last 
three digits?


Best regards,
Don Kern
Fireball - 12708
1974 C&C 35 Mk2
Bristol, RI 02809



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Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Thank you Don..

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
260 Oatland Island Road, Savannah, GA 31410 USA

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On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 7:08 PM Don Kern via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Being retired, and having a rainy day I put together a spread sheet
> (attached) from the replies to Jack's request.  Please let me know by
> email, if you want to be removed or want to make corrections to the
> list.  Rhis is a shorten list that does not include the second and third
> boats that folks have owned.
>
> I will send out an update as soon as the replies peter out.
>
> ps: What part of the C&C serial number is the hull number, the last
> three digits?
>
> Best regards,
> Don Kern
> Fireball - 12708
> 1974 C&C 35 Mk2
> Bristol, RI 02809
>
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Here is a link that explains the HIN:
http://boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 20:33, Ken Heaton  wrote:

> A C&C Hull Identification Number (HIN - the one on the transom), starts
> with a ZCC (or a different three letter code on older boats, I don't
> remember the code).
>
> The next two digits are the model (usually the length), the next three
> digits are the hull number in that model series, the next digits are the
> model month and year, using a number letter code.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 20:08, Don Kern via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Being retired, and having a rainy day I put together a spread sheet
>> (attached) from the replies to Jack's request.  Please let me know by
>> email, if you want to be removed or want to make corrections to the
>> list.  Rhis is a shorten list that does not include the second and third
>> boats that folks have owned.
>>
>> I will send out an update as soon as the replies peter out.
>>
>> ps: What part of the C&C serial number is the hull number, the last
>> three digits?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Don Kern
>> Fireball - 12708
>> 1974 C&C 35 Mk2
>> Bristol, RI 02809
>>
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

[rjcasciato--- via CnC-List]

Don. I have a 1977 C&C 38 MK II, Hull #125. Bought it in 1997. Races well.
Ron Casciato
Impromptu


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From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: don-k...@cox.net
Sent: 2018-09-30 7:10:48 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

Being retired, and having a rainy day I put together a spread sheet 
(attached) from the replies to Jack's request.  Please let me know by 
email, if you want to be removed or want to make corrections to the 
list.  Rhis is a shorten list that does not include the second and third 
boats that folks have owned.

I will send out an update as soon as the replies peter out.

ps: What part of the C&C serial number is the hull number, the last 
three digits?

Best regards,
Don Kern
Fireball - 12708
1974 C&C 35 Mk2
Bristol, RI 02809

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Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

A C&C Hull Identification Number (HIN - the one on the transom), starts
with a ZCC (or a different three letter code on older boats, I don't
remember the code).

The next two digits are the model (usually the length), the next three
digits are the hull number in that model series, the next digits are the
model month and year, using a number letter code.

Ken H.

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 20:08, Don Kern via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Being retired, and having a rainy day I put together a spread sheet
> (attached) from the replies to Jack's request.  Please let me know by
> email, if you want to be removed or want to make corrections to the
> list.  Rhis is a shorten list that does not include the second and third
> boats that folks have owned.
>
> I will send out an update as soon as the replies peter out.
>
> ps: What part of the C&C serial number is the hull number, the last
> three digits?
>
> Best regards,
> Don Kern
> Fireball - 12708
> 1974 C&C 35 Mk2
> Bristol, RI 02809
>
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

[Thomas Perison via CnC-List]

Don - 
Good On Ya for compiling this list !  
Pls add the below info to mine (Therapy): 
Berthed: Pt Patience Marina, Solomons Island MD; city/St: Alexandria VA; years 
sailing: 40. 
Cheers -
Tom


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> On Sep 30, 2018, at 7:07 PM, Don Kern via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Being retired, and having a rainy day I put together a spread sheet 
> (attached) from the replies to Jack's request.  Please let me know by email, 
> if you want to be removed or want to make corrections to the list.  Rhis is a 
> shorten list that does not include the second and third boats that folks have 
> owned.
> 
> I will send out an update as soon as the replies peter out.
> 
> ps: What part of the C&C serial number is the hull number, the last three 
> digits?
> 
> Best regards,
> Don Kern
> Fireball - 12708
> 1974 C&C 35 Mk2
> Bristol, RI 02809
> 
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Re: Stus-List Rob - C&C long time question

[Don Kern via CnC-List]

Being retired, and having a rainy day I put together a spread sheet 
(attached) from the replies to Jack's request.  Please let me know by 
email, if you want to be removed or want to make corrections to the 
list.  Rhis is a shorten list that does not include the second and third 
boats that folks have owned.


I will send out an update as soon as the replies peter out.

ps: What part of the C&C serial number is the hull number, the last 
three digits?


Best regards,
Don Kern
Fireball - 12708
1974 C&C 35 Mk2
Bristol, RI 02809



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Re: Stus-List Ventilation -vetus?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

The latest version of the Nicro / Marinco day/night solar vent works well.
Touche' has one in the head.  However, the vertical sides ware subject to
catching lines.  There was a discussion a few months ago about them.  If
you mount them in place of a dorade on the raised section and the edge of
the vent hangs over, there is a real potential for a line to catch it and
fling it overboard.

As for supplemental dehumidification, if you're on shore power, I highly
recommend a Caframo air dryer with fan.  West Marine sells it under the
West Marine brand (Model # 7867518).

I use one year round and add a second one in the fall/winter.  Keeps the
interior above the dew point and greatly reduces the potential for
condensation.

Caframo also sells a version without the fan for slightly less.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 11:31 PM Dave S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Have been contemplating better ventilating my 33-2.
> One option is to add a day and night vent in either cabin or both.
> Another is to do as the CS36 does, and that is to add a cowl vent to the
> anchor locker hatch and a grill/air passage between the locker and the foot
> of the v-berth.  (Anchor locker functions as a dorade box, plus you get
> some air movement in the anchor locker)
> All the recent talk of lost cowl vents makes me think that dome vents
> would be preferred.
> Any thoughts on cabin ventilation?
> Any experience with latest nicro/Marino or vetus UFO vents, solar or
> passive?
> Many thanks!
> Dave - windstar 33-2
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List Prop shaft zincs, bonding and corrosion

[Chris Hobson via CnC-List]

I seem to be burning through zincs on my prop shaft, replace them at least 
twice or more in a season. I posted a photo previously in the group of a shaft 
brush (https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/my-drive) someone helped me figure 
out what it was. Currently the wire on it leads nowhere which got my started on 
this goose chase, researching shaft brush’s and bonding systems.

Anyway my question is should I be connecting the wire coming from this shaft 
brush to a DC ground? Or will that simply connect the stray current from the 
dissimilar metals (bronze prop, steel shaft) outside of the boat, to the engine 
“earth” and start to corrode the engine? 

I’ve got AC shore power but had a Galvanic Isolator installed, so I’m not sure 
where the stray current is coming from or what is eating through these zincs so 
quickly. If anyone has any ideas or has had a similar experience with burning 
through zincs or bonding systems, and found a solution (other than changing 
zincs more frequently) please let me know!

Chris Hobson
S/V Going
1980 C&C MKI
Hull 615

Vancouver BC


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Re: Stus-List C&C 25 II - core replacement

[Stephen Kidd via CnC-List]

Hello list,

We're three days into a minor refurbishing. Compounding out many years of
oxidation (the boat is older than I am, to be fair), fixing some dock rash,
and recoring the cockpit bench at the cabin entrance. I'm sure there is a
boat word for that. At any rate, the instructions and insights garnered
from this list have been very helpful.

I had about 1 sq foot of rotten, soggy balsa, the surrounding area was damp
for about another 3-5 inches out. There was a stick on non-slip pad
covering a full on crack. My skepticism of stickers is confirmed. I removed
about 5 sq ft in the end, taking out at least a few inches of still good
balsa. That balsa is amazing, and I do wish I had bought a chisel. I put a
nice barrier of thickened epoxy around the remaining balsa to insulate it
from my novice repair.

All said, it's just waiting for the paint and I can step on it without fear
for the first time since taking ownership. And it's level (well, very
slight slope away from the  cabin). Pricey, and I have more power tools
than an apartment dweller should, but so very satisfying. I'm happy I gave
it a go!

All the best,
Stephen
Sweet Chariot - C&C 25
Washington DC
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Stus-List Mold prevention

[Glenn Henderson via CnC-List]

I live in Costa Rica and mold is a always an issue. I have great luck using
an Ozone Generator. It cost about $40 on Ebay and I used it the of this
entirety of  this rainy season. About once a week, I run it for about 30
minutes. I put it in different places on the boat each time to help
distribute the ozone. It It is said that ozone is damaging to plastic and
rubber but I have seen no perceptible destruction. There is a spray liquid
called Hapric that is sold down here. I don't know if it is available in
the states but it removes mold/mildew instantly. You need gloves and a mask
to use it.

Glenn Hendersson
C&C 41
*WeGo>*
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Re: Stus-List Composting head in 33-2?

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

We have had a composting head (Air Head) for several years now and love it.  It 
sits a little higher than a standard toilet but we got used to it.  We live 
aboard and go south every winter and we have to empty the solids container 
every 3 weeks (2 people).  As I recall, composting requires a temp of at least 
55 degrees F which is not a problem for us but could be for some people who 
keep their boats in cold weather.  I have more info on my blog...

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
Annapolis, MD 

> On Sep 30, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Dave. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Dave.
> I love your question and look forward to responses. We, on our 33-1 are 
> looking at the same issue. In our case we have had no real holding tank (a 6 
> gallon job which was never used) but have used an electro-scan Type 1 Marine 
> Sanitation Device. As Puget Sound in now a no discharge zone we need to 
> choose our next system. The composting head sounds like an interesting option 
> but I too would like to here what others have experienced. They are not cheap 
> but neither is a custom made holding tank. I’ve looked at the many 
> prefabricated tanks and have not found one which would fit our situation.
> Dave.
> SLY
> 1975 C&C 33
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2018, at 11:40 PM, Dave S via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone installed a composting head in a 33 or similar?
>> Have been contemplating replacement of my stench-impregnated holding tank 
>> and hoses and it was suggested I look at a composting head instead.  
>> Very tempting for many reasons, plus a huge gain in interior space below the 
>> v-berth.   
>> my only concern is size of the unit itself and I wonder  if anyone has 
>> already been down this road.   Any thoughts or guidance?
>> Thanks!
>> Dave - windstar 33-2
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Mold prevention

[David via CnC-List]

Ah.  There is the rub.  On the mooring.

>From my Android


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Alan Liles via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 12:48:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Alan Liles
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mold prevention

I have an Evadry dehumidifier that has run more or less constantly for three 
years and it’s still going. It takes about 1/2 liter per week out of the air. I 
need to run small heaters in the winter to prevent the dehumidifier from 
freezing. One of my better purchases

Al Liles
SV Elendil
Vancouver BC.


On Sep 30, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Dave. via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

We use 3 Dri-Z-Aires in the winter in SLY and for us that does the trick. SLY 
lives in the water at her slip but is inactive all winter here in the 
Northwest. No issue with mold in the summer for us.
Dave.
1975 C&C 33
SLY

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 30, 2018, at 6:58 AM, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Boat is ventilated ( not dehumified) and bulkheads clean but we get this light 
patina of easily removed mold on a regular basis.   Is there a solution to 
prevent regrowth or is that the TSP bleach water solution to clean same.




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Re: Stus-List Composting head in 33-2?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

There's a good review of them here:

https://www.boatingmag.com/choosing-composting-marine-toilet

Looks like a great option!

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 9:31 AM Chris Graham via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I used an airhead on my Vega many years ago. Definitely not cheap and it
> was huge, a bit unsightly as it was placed in a tight space, but no odor, I
> picked up a ton of storage when the tank was removed.
> The newer models are just as expensive but far more compact now that they
> have discovered the marine market. No more holes in the boat which is a
> great relief to me. I think I paid close to $700 on my model 10 years or so
> ago?
> If I get the C&C I’m looking at this fall. I will more than likely move on
> another composting toilet. Not 100% maintenance free, but way less work
> than the standard heads.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Sunday, September 30, 2018, 12:16 PM, Dave. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Dave.
> I love your question and look forward to responses. We, on our 33-1 are
> looking at the same issue. In our case we have had no real holding tank (a
> 6 gallon job which was never used) but have used an electro-scan Type 1
> Marine Sanitation Device. As Puget Sound in now a no discharge zone we need
> to choose our next system. The composting head sounds like an interesting
> option but I too would like to here what others have experienced. They are
> not cheap but neither is a custom made holding tank. I’ve looked at the
> many prefabricated tanks and have not found one which would fit our
> situation.
> Dave.
> SLY
> 1975 C&C 33
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 29, 2018, at 11:40 PM, Dave S via CnC-List 
> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone installed a composting head in a 33 or similar?
> > Have been contemplating replacement of my stench-impregnated holding
> tank and hoses and it was suggested I look at a composting head instead.
> > Very tempting for many reasons, plus a huge gain in interior space below
> the v-berth.
> > my only concern is size of the unit itself and I wonder  if anyone has
> already been down this road.  Any thoughts or guidance?
> > Thanks!
> > Dave - windstar 33-2
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List Comox living

[Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List]

Hi Bill,
We moved here recently for many of the reasons you mentioned -- ocean,
mountains, good sailing destinations, international airport, hospital,
(relative) affordability.  Loving it so far.  Moorage is difficult to come
by.  I'll drop you a direct email with more details.
Cheers,
  Jeremy


> Hi Jeremy,
> I have a C&C 35 MK2 down in Victoria but I actually live in Alberta. I try
> to spend summers on the boat but this year work made that a bust.
> I have been looking at possibly moving to the island and have been looking
> at spots. Lately I have been checking out Comox. I noticed you have your
> boat there. What do you think of the area? One of my reasonings is Comox
> seem to offer a lot of the activities I enjoy ( mtn biking, xc-skiing,
> kayaking and a little sailing to boot). What do you think of the area? Have
> you lived there long? How are the winters compared to Vic? What is the
> community like? I know the mtn biking is good with Cumberland and the
> surrounding areas. Have you skied up at Mt Washington? What is the marina
> like? Is it easy to get moorage?
> I fly to work so I only need to be reasonably close to an airport, so i
> can live where ever is the most fun :-)
> Sorry for all the questions!
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> *Bill Hoyne*Mithrandir
> ’74 C&C35 MkII
> in Victoria,BC
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Re: Stus-List Mold prevention

[Alan Liles via CnC-List]

I have an Evadry dehumidifier that has run more or less constantly for three 
years and it’s still going. It takes about 1/2 liter per week out of the air. I 
need to run small heaters in the winter to prevent the dehumidifier from 
freezing. One of my better purchases

Al Liles
SV Elendil 
Vancouver BC. 


> On Sep 30, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Dave. via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> We use 3 Dri-Z-Aires in the winter in SLY and for us that does the trick. SLY 
> lives in the water at her slip but is inactive all winter here in the 
> Northwest. No issue with mold in the summer for us.
> Dave.
> 1975 C&C 33
> SLY
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 6:58 AM, David via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Boat is ventilated ( not dehumified) and bulkheads clean but we get this 
>> light patina of easily removed mold on a regular basis.   Is there a 
>> solution to prevent regrowth or is that the TSP bleach water solution to 
>> clean same.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From my Android
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Re: Stus-List Composting head in 33-2?

[Chris Graham via CnC-List]

I used an airhead on my Vega many years ago. Definitely not cheap and it was 
huge, a bit unsightly as it was placed in a tight space, but no odor, I picked 
up a ton of storage when the tank was removed. The newer models are just as 
expensive but far more compact now that they have discovered the marine market. 
No more holes in the boat which is a great relief to me. I think I paid close 
to $700 on my model 10 years or so ago? If I get the C&C I’m looking at this 
fall. I will more than likely move on another composting toilet. Not 100% 
maintenance free, but way less work than the standard heads. 
Chris


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Sunday, September 30, 2018, 12:16 PM, Dave. via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Dave.
I love your question and look forward to responses. We, on our 33-1 are looking 
at the same issue. In our case we have had no real holding tank (a 6 gallon job 
which was never used) but have used an electro-scan Type 1 Marine Sanitation 
Device. As Puget Sound in now a no discharge zone we need to choose our next 
system. The composting head sounds like an interesting option but I too would 
like to here what others have experienced. They are not cheap but neither is a 
custom made holding tank. I’ve looked at the many prefabricated tanks and have 
not found one which would fit our situation.
Dave.
SLY
1975 C&C 33

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 29, 2018, at 11:40 PM, Dave S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone installed a composting head in a 33 or similar?
> Have been contemplating replacement of my stench-impregnated holding tank and 
> hoses and it was suggested I look at a composting head instead.  
> Very tempting for many reasons, plus a huge gain in interior space below the 
> v-berth.  
> my only concern is size of the unit itself and I wonder  if anyone has 
> already been down this road.  Any thoughts or guidance?
> Thanks!
> Dave - windstar 33-2
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Composting head in 33-2?

[Dave. via CnC-List]

Dave.
I love your question and look forward to responses. We, on our 33-1 are looking 
at the same issue. In our case we have had no real holding tank (a 6 gallon job 
which was never used) but have used an electro-scan Type 1 Marine Sanitation 
Device. As Puget Sound in now a no discharge zone we need to choose our next 
system. The composting head sounds like an interesting option but I too would 
like to here what others have experienced. They are not cheap but neither is a 
custom made holding tank. I’ve looked at the many prefabricated tanks and have 
not found one which would fit our situation.
Dave.
SLY
1975 C&C 33

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 29, 2018, at 11:40 PM, Dave S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone installed a composting head in a 33 or similar?
> Have been contemplating replacement of my stench-impregnated holding tank and 
> hoses and it was suggested I look at a composting head instead.  
> Very tempting for many reasons, plus a huge gain in interior space below the 
> v-berth.   
> my only concern is size of the unit itself and I wonder  if anyone has 
> already been down this road.   Any thoughts or guidance?
> Thanks!
> Dave - windstar 33-2
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Mold prevention

[Dave. via CnC-List]

We use 3 Dri-Z-Aires in the winter in SLY and for us that does the trick. SLY 
lives in the water at her slip but is inactive all winter here in the 
Northwest. No issue with mold in the summer for us.
Dave.
1975 C&C 33
SLY

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 30, 2018, at 6:58 AM, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Boat is ventilated ( not dehumified) and bulkheads clean but we get this 
> light patina of easily removed mold on a regular basis.   Is there a solution 
> to prevent regrowth or is that the TSP bleach water solution to clean same.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Mold prevention

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

Dehumidifier. Like this one from Eva-Dry. 
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/eva-dry-edv-2500-mid-size-dehumidifier-edv-2500
Getting ready to buy one myself the replace the big clunky one I currently 
have. 
Doug MountjoySv Rebecca Leah LF39Port Orchard YC


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 Cc: David  Subject: Stus-List 
Mold prevention 


Boat is ventilated ( not dehumified) and bulkheads clean but we get this light 
patina of easily removed mold on a regular basis.   Is there a solution to 
prevent regrowth or is that the TSP bleach water solution to clean same. 













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Stus-List Mold prevention

[David via CnC-List]

Boat is ventilated ( not dehumified) and bulkheads clean but we get this light 
patina of easily removed mold on a regular basis.   Is there a solution to 
prevent regrowth or is that the TSP bleach water solution to clean same.




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Re: Stus-List years a C&C owner

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Chuck, that's great; I would suggest an alternate phraseology: you are 
continually upgrading and improving your "son's inheritance"!    I also enjoy 
these stories; since I am out in the proverbial hinterlands of sailing, it is 
great to hear that families continue to enjoy their boats. Thanks
 
Richard
 s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 602.5
Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Chuck Saur via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Chuck Saur 
Sent: Sun, Sep 30, 2018 8:53 am
Subject: Stus-List years a C&C owner

This topic is fascinating from two perspectives for me:  First, how loyal and 
long-term the owners seem to be, and second, the stories about the boats and 
families who own them!
I purchased my first C&C 35-3 Morning Sky (ex Pegusus) in Charlevoix, MI in 
January 2013.  Had her painted, and over the past 6 years have re-rigged and 
upgraded most everything. My son bought her this summer when I purchased my 37+ 
Daydream (ex Obsession).  She'll undergo some upgrades as well, as I continue 
to make poor financial decisions and spend my sons' inheritance...
Prior to that, we owned an S-2, a Columbia and a fleet of small boats.  We 
always lost races back in the 80's to the C&C guys, and now we understand!
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Stus-List Ventilation -vetus?

[robert via CnC-List]

AZURA came with a Nicro solar vent in the forward hatch (above the 
V-berth)it is also powered by a rechargeable C cell battery which 
runs the fan all nightworks great to keep the air in the boat 
circulating .wouldn't be without one.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2018-09-30 1:30 AM, Dave S via CnC-List wrote:

Have been contemplating better ventilating my 33-2.
One option is to add a day and night vent in either cabin or both.
Another is to do as the CS36 does, and that is to add a cowl vent to the anchor 
locker hatch and a grill/air passage between the locker and the foot of the 
v-berth.  (Anchor locker functions as a dorade box, plus you get some air 
movement in the anchor locker)
All the recent talk of lost cowl vents makes me think that dome vents would be 
preferred.
Any thoughts on cabin ventilation?
Any experience with latest nicro/Marino or vetus UFO vents, solar or passive?
Many thanks!
Dave - windstar 33-2


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Re: Stus-List Ventilation -vetus?

[David via CnC-List]

Two quick thoughts.  Anchor lockers and their rode pick up a lot of stuff and 
can smell.  Anchor lockers have been known to flood in a seaway.   The vent 
between cabin and locker may allow fumes and water into cabin.

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From: Dave S via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 12:31 AM
Subject: Stus-List Ventilation -vetus?
To: C&c Stus List
Cc: Dave S


Have been contemplating better ventilating my 33-2. One option is to add a day 
and night vent in either cabin or both. Another is to do as the CS36 does, and 
that is to add a cowl vent to the anchor locker hatch and a grill/air passage 
between the locker and the foot of the v-berth. (Anchor locker functions as a 
dorade box, plus you get some air movement in the anchor locker) All the recent 
talk of lost cowl vents makes me think that dome vents would be preferred. Any 
thoughts on cabin ventilation? Any experience with latest nicro/Marino or vetus 
UFO vents, solar or passive? Many thanks! Dave - windstar 33-2 Sent from my 
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Stus-List years a C&C owner

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

This topic is fascinating from two perspectives for me:  First, how loyal
and long-term the owners seem to be, and second, the stories about the
boats and families who own them!

I purchased my first C&C 35-3 Morning Sky (ex Pegusus) in Charlevoix, MI in
January 2013.  Had her painted, and over the past 6 years have re-rigged
and upgraded most everything. My son bought her this summer when I
purchased my 37+ Daydream (ex Obsession).  She'll undergo some upgrades as
well, as I continue to make poor financial decisions and spend my sons'
inheritance...

Prior to that, we owned an S-2, a Columbia and a fleet of small boats.  We
always lost races back in the 80's to the C&C guys, and now we understand!

*Chuck Saur*

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