Re: Stus-List Knot meter - worth replacing?

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hi Shawn,
Did you buy the boat?

Tip: before hauling the boat, replace the speedo paddlewheel with the plug.
Another tip: keep these two tethered together and only insert the paddlewheel 
when you go sailing, and replace the plug when you get back to the dock. That 
way, you'll never have to clean the paddlewheel. Newer model speedos have a 
checkvalve in the thruhull that reduces the water ingress considerably.

To answer your question: It's not urgent to replace the speedo. You can 
substitute GPS speed, but eventually you will want one and I'd replace the 
whole package as a bundled kit on sale.

Chuck S


> On April 30, 2019 at 11:30 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> The 35-2 has an original (I think) B knot meter, but the paddle wheel 
> has one paddle broken off from a lifting strap. Apparently this old sender is 
> no longer available. Is it worth getting a replacement knot meter to get 
> speed over water? The boat also comes with a B H1000 windex and several 
> extra display units. Possibly I could find a knot meter sending unit to work 
> with these? 
> 
> Or should I knot bother and just settle for GPS speed? 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Knot meter - worth replacing?

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Shawn,

Is the paddle with the magnet still there? It 
will show as a little block on one paddle.


If you're lucky with it being there then just 
build up the broken paddle with epoxy putty to 
the same general profile as the other blades. 
Close is good enough for the resolution a 
cruising boat needs. It's not like you're going 
to be using the info for constant fine trimming 
as we might do when racing. Even then a good job on it will be fine.


Cheers, Russ

At 08:30 PM 4/30/2019, you wrote:
The 35-2 has an original (I think) B knot 
meter, but the paddle wheel has one paddle 
broken off from a lifting strap. Apparently this 
old sender is no longer available. Is it worth 
getting a replacement knot meter to get speed 
over water? The boat also comes with a B H1000 
windex and several extra display units. Possibly 
I could find a knot meter sending unit to work with these?Â


Or should I knot bother and just settle for GPS speed?Â

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shawngwri...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List Knot meter - worth replacing?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Speed through the water is used by most instrument packages to calculate
true wind.  Without it all you will ever have is apparent wind.  Not a
killer but something to consider.

You might be able to find a replacement wheel.  Most are just held in by a
pin.  $5 part.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 11:31 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The 35-2 has an original (I think) B knot meter, but the paddle wheel
> has one paddle broken off from a lifting strap. Apparently this old sender
> is no longer available. Is it worth getting a replacement knot meter to get
> speed over water? The boat also comes with a B H1000 windex and several
> extra display units. Possibly I could find a knot meter sending unit to
> work with these?
>
> Or should I knot bother and just settle for GPS speed?
>
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Stus-List Knot meter - worth replacing?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

The 35-2 has an original (I think) B knot meter, but the paddle wheel has
one paddle broken off from a lifting strap. Apparently this old sender is
no longer available. Is it worth getting a replacement knot meter to get
speed over water? The boat also comes with a B H1000 windex and several
extra display units. Possibly I could find a knot meter sending unit to
work with these?

Or should I knot bother and just settle for GPS speed?

-- 
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shawngwri...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List 35-1 Rudder stop upgrade - project documentation

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Nice to see a well thought out solution so well documented for the rest of us 
to learn from.

Is Dennis's project posted on Stu's website?

Chuck S


> On April 30, 2019 at 12:44 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dennis I finally had time to look through your steering documentation; 
> that is quality work my friend!  You almost have enough material there to 
> begin a book; add some of your other fine upgrades and you are ready to 
> publish!
> Thank you for sharing this.
> 
> Richard
> 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596:
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> To: CnClist 
> Cc: Dennis C. 
> Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2019 8:48 pm
> Subject: Stus-List 35-1 Rudder stop upgrade - project documentation
> 
> Well, I finally finished the servicing and upgrade to Touche's steering 
> system.  Listers may recall this started in January and was interrupted by my 
> month long Colorado ski trip.
> 
> In summary, to my knowledge, Touche's steering system had never had a 
> major maintenance session.  I pulled the pedestal, cables, sheaves, etc. for 
> inspection and lubrication.  That's when I found a poor design issue with the 
> system.  There were two small bolts installed in the last link on either side 
> of the chain.  At full turn of the rudder, these bolts contacted the teeth in 
> the pedestal's sprocket acting as a rudder stop.  Over time, the bolts had a 
> deleterious effect on the sprocket.  
> 
> I would recommend to owners of earlier 35's, and any other older models 
> which may have the bolts in the chain, that they inspect the sprocket in 
> their pedestal.
> 
> I also found a broken strand on one of the steering cables.  This break 
> may also have been related to the design issue.
> 
> About halfway through the build run of the 35-1's, C radically changed 
> the rudder stop design by adding a bulkhead aft of the rudder and attaching 
> two aluminum plates to the quadrant which contacted the bulkhead at full 
> travel.
> 
> I decided to mimic the newer design, eliminating the bolts in the chain.
> 
> I can tell you that it is quite a project, not to be taken casually.  I 
> did document the project fairly well.  The link to the project document is:
> 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=115qLR3c13N2THCRpsOF-7UGGJBweFXfd
> 
> If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List 35-1 Rudder stop upgrade - project documentation

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Dennis I finally had time to look through your steering documentation; that is 
quality work my friend!  You almost have enough material there to begin a book; 
add some of your other fine upgrades and you are ready to publish!Thank you for 
sharing this.
 
Richard
 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596: 
Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2019 8:48 pm
Subject: Stus-List 35-1 Rudder stop upgrade - project documentation

Well, I finally finished the servicing and upgrade to Touche's steering system. 
 Listers may recall this started in January and was interrupted by my month 
long Colorado ski trip.
In summary, to my knowledge, Touche's steering system had never had a major 
maintenance session.  I pulled the pedestal, cables, sheaves, etc. for 
inspection and lubrication.  That's when I found a poor design issue with the 
system.  There were two small bolts installed in the last link on either side 
of the chain.  At full turn of the rudder, these bolts contacted the teeth in 
the pedestal's sprocket acting as a rudder stop.  Over time, the bolts had a 
deleterious effect on the sprocket.  
I would recommend to owners of earlier 35's, and any other older models which 
may have the bolts in the chain, that they inspect the sprocket in their 
pedestal.
I also found a broken strand on one of the steering cables.  This break may 
also have been related to the design issue.
About halfway through the build run of the 35-1's, C radically changed the 
rudder stop design by adding a bulkhead aft of the rudder and attaching two 
aluminum plates to the quadrant which contacted the bulkhead at full travel.
I decided to mimic the newer design, eliminating the bolts in the chain.
I can tell you that it is quite a project, not to be taken casually.  I did 
document the project fairly well.  The link to the project document is:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=115qLR3c13N2THCRpsOF-7UGGJBweFXfd

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me.
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, 
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Re: Stus-List C as offshore boat? NOW SHOWERS

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

The shower on the 35 MKI must be similar to the one on my MKII so i don’t
quite understand what gives rise to your comments Joe. Definitey not like
the big acrylic shower and home but totally adequate for a 35 foot boat.
The biggest issue with showering daily while cruising is the amount of
water the tanks carry. When cruising we both shower everyday so our water
lasts only 4 days or so before we need to take in more but by that time we
usually need fresh supply of food as well. Alianna has oiled teak and not
oiled every year either and i have cetol coated(1 coat only) teak and holly
sole throughout and teak bulkheads and cabinetry very well made i think by
a marine carpenter back in 1974. My teak is in beautiful condition despite
years of showering and my bilge is clean and odor free. We do not have any
issues, in fact we receive kind remarks about the appearance and lack of
any odor in the boat including nasty fuel odors common in some boats. We
have a solar powered vent an the main cabin and the 2 dorades have long
since been replaced by low profile stainless vents.

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 10:46 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I don’t consider the shower on our 35 MK I really useable. You can squirt
> water on yourself for sure, but it makes a mess and I think using it every
> day as a liveaboard would not have any good results for the woodwork nor
> the general ambience of the bilge.
>
> In warm weather I use a plastic “camping shower” thing that has an
> inflatable top and makes a phone booth sized enclosure. We shower in the
> cockpit with it.
>
> The Landfall series have IMHO nice showers for daily use.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *dwight
> veinot via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 4:40 PM
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> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List C as offshore boat?
>
>
>
> Yes the stand up shower on the 35 works fine with pressurized hot and cold
> hand held.  Very nice and good for several showers
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C as offshore boat? NOW SHOWERS

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I don’t consider the shower on our 35 MK I really useable. You can squirt water 
on yourself for sure, but it makes a mess and I think using it every day as a 
liveaboard would not have any good results for the woodwork nor the general 
ambience of the bilge.
In warm weather I use a plastic “camping shower” thing that has an inflatable 
top and makes a phone booth sized enclosure. We shower in the cockpit with it.
The Landfall series have IMHO nice showers for daily use.

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight 
veinot via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 4:40 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List C as offshore boat?

Yes the stand up shower on the 35 works fine with pressurized hot and cold hand 
held.  Very nice and good for several showers

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