Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Y'all keep talking about hot water heaters... I'm trying to figure out why
you bother heating the water if it is already hot?!  Haha  

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 14:00 Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Rob,
>
> My Landfall 35 experienced an OEM water heater leakage/failure last winter
> that dictated cutting the heater in half to remove the unit (12 Gallon
> Raritan) and replacing it with a much smaller Isotherm unit (6 gal) so I
> didn’t need to remove the diesel to install a new heater.  Rob Ball was
> pretty sure they installed both the heater and the diesel prior to dropping
> the deck on the boat when new, although the boat was built in RI and he was
> in NOTL.  Since the Yanmar 3HM is oriented backwards in the boat (with a
> V-drive), access to any belts, pulleys, pumps, etc always meant moving the
> water heater to the side to perform service.  With the smaller heater, I
> can get to one of the water pump impellers now with the heater in place…
> one small concession to a $800+ investment in hot water…
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V Half Magic
>
> 1983 35 Landfall
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Doug
> Mountjoy via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2020 11:44 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Doug Mountjoy 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater
>
>
>
> Rob,
>
> I have had 2 of these water heaters in 2 boats. Love them for the low
> power draw on shore power, Being a live aboard on 30 amps this is important
> in the winter.
>
> https://www.fisheriessupply.com/isotherm-spa-water-heaters
>
> On my LF38 I had the 6.5 gal and on my LF39 I have the 8 gal.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:36 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> My hot water heater needs replacingthe existing one is round, 14
> inches in diameter.it should just, I mean just, come out of the
> locker without dismantling it so the new one can be no bigger.
>
> Can anyone with experience with hot water heaters recommend a
> replacement, specific model number?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
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> 253-208-1412
>
> Port Orchard YC, WA
>
> Rebecca Leah
>
> C LandFall 39
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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Rob,

My Landfall 35 experienced an OEM water heater leakage/failure last winter that 
dictated cutting the heater in half to remove the unit (12 Gallon Raritan) and 
replacing it with a much smaller Isotherm unit (6 gal) so I didn’t need to 
remove the diesel to install a new heater.  Rob Ball was pretty sure they 
installed both the heater and the diesel prior to dropping the deck on the boat 
when new, although the boat was built in RI and he was in NOTL.  Since the 
Yanmar 3HM is oriented backwards in the boat (with a V-drive), access to any 
belts, pulleys, pumps, etc always meant moving the water heater to the side to 
perform service.  With the smaller heater, I can get to one of the water pump 
impellers now with the heater in place… one small concession to a $800+ 
investment in hot water…

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 35 Landfall

Padanaram, MA

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Doug Mountjoy via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 11:44 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Doug Mountjoy 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

 

Rob,

I have had 2 of these water heaters in 2 boats. Love them for the low power 
draw on shore power, Being a live aboard on 30 amps this is important in the 
winter. 

https://www.fisheriessupply.com/isotherm-spa-water-heaters

On my LF38 I had the 6.5 gal and on my LF39 I have the 8 gal. 

 

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:36 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

My hot water heater needs replacingthe existing one is round, 14 
inches in diameter.it should just, I mean just, come out of the 
locker without dismantling it so the new one can be no bigger.

Can anyone with experience with hot water heaters recommend a 
replacement, specific model number?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.


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Douglas Mountjoy
253-208-1412

Port Orchard YC, WA

Rebecca Leah

C LandFall 39

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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Rob,

 

Boy is this familiar.  I am in the same boat (so to speak).  The lazarette
doesn't maintain the same size throughout its length, it gets narrower the
farther aft you go.  I bought a 6 gallon from West Marine in the fal and am
in the process of installation now.  The wood trim piece (attached be screws
from underneath has to be remove and a little spreading force may ben needed
to make it fit (1/4 of an inch (6-7 mm) or so ).  The west Marin heater
measures 13.5 inches square and the opening is "just" short of 13.5 inches
at the most aft portion.

 

I'm going to give it a try this week and will let you know if I can make it
happen.

 

Neil Andersen

S/V FoxFire

1982 C 32

Rock Hall, MD 21661




 

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From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Robert Abbott
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:36 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

 

My hot water heater needs replacingthe existing one is round, 14 inches
in diameter.it should just, I mean just, come out of the locker without
dismantling it so the new one can be no bigger.

 

Can anyone with experience with hot water heaters recommend a replacement,
specific model number?

 

Rob Abbott

AZURA

C 32 - #277

Halifax, N.S.

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

It might be useful to remove the water heater and dissect it a little to
determine where the leak is coming from.  There are at least 6 threaded
penetrations based on your description.  One of them may just need
tightened...or what's connected to the penetration may need tightened.  It
could be the T valve which is pretty common to leak and easy to replace.

If you get in there and find that it is a through-wall leak on the actual
tank then I would say the whole thing is shot.  Any attempts to make
repairs are most likely to be short lived.

Many people don't realize that there is also usually an anode which should
be inspected and periodically replaced.

The Raritan unit I have is 6 gallons and costs $1000+ to replace so a small
amount of effort on my part was pretty easy to justify.

Josh





On Tue, May 26, 2020, 11:40 Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Josh:
>
> Mine looks very much like yoursit is a 5 gallon, vertical tank, heated
> both via engine and electrical..14" in diameter (didn't measure the
> height but estimate approx. 20")I assume vertical connectionscold
> water in, hot water out connection, engine coolant in and out, pressure
> relief valve, a drain valve on the bottom, and an electrical
> connections. a similar one would be ideal.
>
> Launched a week ago and every day I notice approx a quart of fresh water
> in my bilge.the only source has to be hot water tank leaking as my
> bilge is normally dry and it is fresh water not salt water.  I have had the
> boat now 15 years and this tank came with it so  have no idea how old it is
> but is it at least 15 years old.  My 40 gallon water tank is not leaking.
>
> I won't be rebuilding myself.  Is there a shop (radiator ?) that might do
> this work?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32- 277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 5/26/2020 10:45 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Can you describe a little better what you are looking for in a new water
> heater?  Size, shape, engine heated, vertical or horizontal connections?
>
> May I ask why yours needs replaced?  I rebuilt mine for a fraction of the
> price of a new one...
>
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - #277
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

Rob,
I have had 2 of these water heaters in 2 boats. Love them for the low power
draw on shore power, Being a live aboard on 30 amps this is important in
the winter.
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/isotherm-spa-water-heaters
On my LF38 I had the 6.5 gal and on my LF39 I have the 8 gal.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:36 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My hot water heater needs replacingthe existing one is round, 14
> inches in diameter.it should just, I mean just, come out of the
> locker without dismantling it so the new one can be no bigger.
>
> Can anyone with experience with hot water heaters recommend a
> replacement, specific model number?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
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>

-- 
Douglas Mountjoy
253-208-1412
Port Orchard YC, WA
Rebecca Leah
C LandFall 39
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Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Josh:

Mine looks very much like yoursit is a 5 gallon, vertical tank, 
heated both via engine and electrical..14" in diameter (didn't 
measure the height but estimate approx. 20")I assume vertical 
connectionscold water in, hot water out connection, engine coolant 
in and out, pressure relief valve, a drain valve on the bottom, and an 
electrical connections. a similar one would be ideal.


Launched a week ago and every day I notice approx a quart of fresh water 
in my bilge.the only source has to be hot water tank leaking as my 
bilge is normally dry and it is fresh water not salt water.  I have had 
the boat now 15 years and this tank came with it so  have no idea how 
old it is but is it at least 15 years old.  My 40 gallon water tank is 
not leaking.


I won't be rebuilding myself.  Is there a shop (radiator ?) that might 
do this work?


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32- 277
Halifax, N.S.

On 5/26/2020 10:45 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
Can you describe a little better what you are looking for in a new 
water heater?  Size, shape, engine heated, vertical or horizontal 
connections?


May I ask why yours needs replaced?  I rebuilt mine for a fraction of 
the price of a new one...


https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD




Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List Water heater

[mike amirault via CnC-List]

Robert, I replaced mine with a whale(seaward) S1100, 11 gal, galvanized
steel. It comes in either front or rear heat exchanger configurations, and
has the electric hookup as well. I added rigid insulation to the outside of
the case; water stays hot or at least warm for a long time. Available at
the Binnacle, which, I think, is close to where you are Robert.

Mike Amirault
C ii Lovely Cruise, SMSC.
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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Rob,

Try IsoTemp SPA heater 
(https://www.indelwebastomarine.com/us/products/isotemp-water-heaters/spa/)

Binnacle carries them (e.g. 
https://ca.binnacle.com/p12176/Isotherm-Isotemp-SPA-Water-Heater-Stainless-Tank-20L-(5.3-USG)/product_info.html).

If you look at the Webasto web site, they have the dimensions (including the 
detailed dimensional drawings).

I have installed the 15 l model and I can recommend it

Marek

1994 C270 "Legato"
Ottawa, ON



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From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Sent: 26 May, 2020 09:36
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

My hot water heater needs replacingthe existing one is round, 14 inches in 
diameter.it should just, I mean just, come out of the locker without 
dismantling it so the new one can be no bigger.

Can anyone with experience with hot water heaters recommend a replacement, 
specific model number?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Can you describe a little better what you are looking for in a new water
heater?  Size, shape, engine heated, vertical or horizontal connections?

May I ask why yours needs replaced?  I rebuilt mine for a fraction of the
price of a new one...

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Tue, May 26, 2020, 09:36 Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My hot water heater needs replacingthe existing one is round, 14
> inches in diameter.it should just, I mean just, come out of the
> locker without dismantling it so the new one can be no bigger.
>
> Can anyone with experience with hot water heaters recommend a
> replacement, specific model number?
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
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Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

My hot water heater needs replacingthe existing one is round, 14 
inches in diameter.it should just, I mean just, come out of the 
locker without dismantling it so the new one can be no bigger.


Can anyone with experience with hot water heaters recommend a 
replacement, specific model number?


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List Autopilot mounting 37/40

[Len Mitchell via CnC-List]

Ken, if it’s not too much trouble I would appreciate a pic from the inside of 
the lazarette. This is not for Crazy Legs, I shared pics of our factory 
installation a while back. Ours is connected to the rudder post. I am helping a 
boat buddy and his boat will not work with the rudder post install but the 
quadrant is exposed like a 37/40. It’s pretty much exactly like Kens. Ken 
having a rubber gasket is one of reasons I asked this group. Thank you! 
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
Midland On
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