Stus-List Re: decision help on moving a boat

[Doug Robinson]

Call Glen at Andrews Trucking and get his advice. (aka ATL Trucking).  
He moved a friends new purchase from Sodus NY to Buffalo last month.  
The rig was returning from a delivery to Ohio so you never know when 
they can optimize the sked to give you a schedule.  If your boat is a 
C it's probably not the first time they hauled it.





On 10/26/20 10:40 PM, Tom Buscaglia wrote:
Considering the present amount of work you described and the offshore 
voyage, I’d call a trucker.  We brought our boat out to Seattle from 
Niagara on the Lake, ON.  WE USED Andrew’s trucking.  A Canadian 
company that did all the factory deliveries for the C factory there, 
back in the day.


I know ghetto do point to point and pre COVID they had trucks going 
all over the ola e is different directions.  The truck the dropped off 
our boat was headed to CA to pick up a delivery to FL.  So, who knows. 
 Here’s their site - https://www.andrewstrucking.com/


Tom B

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660



On Oct 26, 2020, at 1:42 PM, ja...@jpiworldwide.com wrote:




Hi All,

I am considering moving my recent purcahse from So Cal to Washington 
State. I have two options… 1) move it from So Cal next summer when 
the weather windows are more predictable and the weather milder by 
sailing it up (two weeks – NW route out of So Cal for a Week, then a 
NE course to Washington for about a week…LONG TACK) OR


2) Move it by truck now and do some work during the winter…

So – If I choose 1) any thoughts on that and if 2) anyone know of a 
good trucking company that is reasonably priced


Thanks

JP

Alethea

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Stus-List Re: decision help on moving a boat

[Marek Dziedzic]

They are good, but they are not cheap.

Marek

From: Tom Buscaglia
Sent: 26 October, 2020 22:41
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: decision help on moving a boat

Considering the present amount of work you described and the offshore voyage, 
I’d call a trucker.  We brought our boat out to Seattle from Niagara on the 
Lake, ON.  WE USED Andrew’s trucking.  A Canadian company that did all the 
factory deliveries for the C factory there, back in the day.

I know ghetto do point to point and pre COVID they had trucks going all over 
the ola e is different directions.  The truck the dropped off our boat was 
headed to CA to pick up a delivery to FL.  So, who knows.  Here’s their site - 
https://www.andrewstrucking.com/

Tom B

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660

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Stus-List Re: Boat cover question

[Marek Dziedzic]

>From my experience, you need to make sure that the legs of the supports don't 
>move (which would collapse the cover) and that they don't twist (as Len 
>mentioned). I also use a piece of rope to make the rectangles between supports 
>smaller (less chance of snow pooling, melting and freezing again). Lately, 
>instead of rope I use reinforced tape (~ 1/2"). It does not need to be overly 
>strong; just enough to make sure that the snow slides off.

I suggest checking the cover after every major snow fall. If the cover has any 
dips, the snow will not shed, and it will collect there. Remove it, before it 
melts. If it refreezes, you may have to face 100 kg pieces of ice that you 
won't be able to move.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

-Original Message-
From: Len Mitchell 
Sent: 26 October, 2020 23:05
To: CNC List 
Subject: Stus-List Boat cover question 

Dean, I had a cover on our C 36 and have a cover on our 37+ made by Topshop 
in the Kingston/Quinte area. The ribs are aluminum conduit. I use zip ties to 
keep them in place with the snow load on the life lines and toe rail. The ribs 
can twist with the weight of heavy snow. They are built to allow water drainage 
but may need another set of ribs if you get pooling. On the 36 I had to use a 
piece of rope to bridge a gap in the conduit. You will need to monitor and see 
how it is. Best if the cover is tightly fastened from below. The 37+ had a new 
canvas last year and sheds water and snow very well. My advice is to check it 
often until you have a level of comfort and deal with any pooling. The new 
cover is a mast up version and fits well. I installed a garboard plug on the 
37+ and have less to worry about. Good luck with yours. 
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
1989 37+
Midland On. 

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Stus-List Boat cover question

[Len Mitchell]

Dean, I had a cover on our C 36 and have a cover on our 37+ made by Topshop 
in the Kingston/Quinte area. The ribs are aluminum conduit. I use zip ties to 
keep them in place with the snow load on the life lines and toe rail. The ribs 
can twist with the weight of heavy snow. They are built to allow water drainage 
but may need another set of ribs if you get pooling. On the 36 I had to use a 
piece of rope to bridge a gap in the conduit. You will need to monitor and see 
how it is. Best if the cover is tightly fastened from below. The 37+ had a new 
canvas last year and sheds water and snow very well. My advice is to check it 
often until you have a level of comfort and deal with any pooling. The new 
cover is a mast up version and fits well. I installed a garboard plug on the 
37+ and have less to worry about. Good luck with yours. 
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
1989 37+
Midland On. 

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Stus-List Re: decision help on moving a boat

[Tom Buscaglia]

Considering the present amount of work you described and the offshore voyage, 
I’d call a trucker.  We brought our boat out to Seattle from Niagara on the 
Lake, ON.  WE USED Andrew’s trucking.  A Canadian company that did all the 
factory deliveries for the C factory there, back in the day.

I know ghetto do point to point and pre COVID they had trucks going all over 
the ola e is different directions.  The truck the dropped off our boat was 
headed to CA to pick up a delivery to FL.  So, who knows.  Here’s their site - 
https://www.andrewstrucking.com/

Tom B

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Oct 26, 2020, at 1:42 PM, ja...@jpiworldwide.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Hi All,
>  
> I am considering moving my recent purcahse from So Cal to Washington State. I 
> have two options… 1) move it from So Cal next summer when the weather windows 
> are more predictable and the weather milder by sailing it up (two weeks – NW 
> route out of So Cal for a Week, then a NE course to Washington for about a 
> week…LONG TACK)  OR
>  
> 2) Move it by truck now and do some work during the winter…
>  
> So – If I choose 1) any thoughts on that and if 2) anyone know of a good 
> trucking company that is reasonably priced
>  
>  
> Thanks
>  
> JP
> Alethea
> October is the time to show your appreciation with a small contribution to 
> this list to help offset the costs. If you want to support the list - use 
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Stus-List Re: decision help on moving a boat

[Fred Hazzard]

Jeral,  I’ve made 3 trips up the coast from So Cal to the Columbia. Each
time in early spring. Each trip took 4 weeks. We sailed when weather was
reasonable and stayed in marinas when bad. I cannot emphasize enough to
allow a lot of time to not sail when weather is poor.
If you try to force the issue the ocean will kick your butt.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C 44
Portland, Or

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 1:41 PM  wrote:

>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am considering moving my recent purcahse from So Cal to Washington
> State. I have two options… 1) move it from So Cal next summer when the
> weather windows are more predictable and the weather milder by sailing it
> up (two weeks – NW route out of So Cal for a Week, then a NE course to
> Washington for about a week…LONG TACK)  OR
>
>
>
> 2) Move it by truck now and do some work during the winter…
>
>
>
> So – If I choose 1) any thoughts on that and if 2) anyone know of a good
> trucking company that is reasonably priced
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> JP
>
> Alethea
> October is the time to show your appreciation with a small contribution to
> this list to help offset the costs. If you want to support the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Boat cover question

[Dean McNeill]

Tried putting the cover on my new-to-me C this weekend. It has a low 
aluminium frame (maybe 2 feet above deck and the cover just extends to the toe 
rails (not over the lifelines and down the side of boat a few feet like other 
covers I’ve seen). I believe it fits decently and its good solid waterproof 
material and looks professionally built but I’m concerned water and snow could 
get under cover and pool on deck? Not gonna buy a new cover but wondering if 
others have similar covers and if I’m worrying needlessly. Thoughts?  

Thanks, Dean
C
Halifax, NS

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Stus-List Re: Winches

[David Knecht]

I am all for getting exercise while sailing, but I have done some 
short/single-handed races in 15-25 knots of wind where especially with my 145% 
genoa, I simply could not crank the genoa in all the way after a tack by the 
end of the race.   Even with my 110% sail, I was running out of gas by the last 
weather leg.  Is there any liimitation on using these devices while racing?  
Dave


> On Oct 26, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Matthew  wrote:
> 
> I don’t disagree.  Cranking winches keeps you strong and healthy – like 
> eating Wheaties for breakfast.
>  

David Knecht
S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Stus-List Re: Winches

[John Conklin]

Sailing doodles uses the Milwaukee  drill winch on a CT54  and it seems to work 
amazing 
John C

> On Oct 26, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
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Stus-List Re: decision help on moving a boat

[ALAN BERGEN]

You might try Norgard Boat Hauling in Scappoose, Oregon. (503) 987-1623.
Owners Bruce and Debbie Helms. boatha...@aol.com

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 1:42 PM  wrote:

>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am considering moving my recent purcahse from So Cal to Washington
> State. I have two options… 1) move it from So Cal next summer when the
> weather windows are more predictable and the weather milder by sailing it
> up (two weeks – NW route out of So Cal for a Week, then a NE course to
> Washington for about a week…LONG TACK)  OR
>
>
>
> 2) Move it by truck now and do some work during the winter…
>
>
>
> So – If I choose 1) any thoughts on that and if 2) anyone know of a good
> trucking company that is reasonably priced
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> JP
>
> Alethea
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Stus-List Re: decision help on moving a boat

[Marek Dziedzic]

Not sure if it is help, but..

There is a reasonable report on SBO from a guy who sailed his boat (I think it 
was a Catalina 34) from San Francisco to Vancouver Island. If I recall, about 
two years ago. It took him more than a month. He hopped along the coast, 
sailing only during the day and staying overnight in various harbours along the 
coast. He did it two-handed. As it turned out, he motored most of the way. You 
may want to check his report (e.g. here: 
http://aquavite224.blogspot.com/2016/09/san-francsico-bay-to-british-columbia.html).

Marek



From: ja...@jpiworldwide.com
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 16:42
To: 'Stus-List'
Subject: Stus-List decision help on moving a boat


Hi All,

I am considering moving my recent purcahse from So Cal to Washington State. I 
have two options… 1) move it from So Cal next summer when the weather windows 
are more predictable and the weather milder by sailing it up (two weeks – NW 
route out of So Cal for a Week, then a NE course to Washington for about a 
week…LONG TACK)  OR

2) Move it by truck now and do some work during the winter…

So – If I choose 1) any thoughts on that and if 2) anyone know of a good 
trucking company that is reasonably priced


Thanks

JP
Alethea

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Stus-List decision help on moving a boat

[jarel]

 

Hi All,

 

I am considering moving my recent purcahse from So Cal to Washington State. I 
have two options… 1) move it from So Cal next summer when the weather windows 
are more predictable and the weather milder by sailing it up (two weeks – NW 
route out of So Cal for a Week, then a NE course to Washington for about a 
week…LONG TACK)  OR

 

2) Move it by truck now and do some work during the winter…

 

So – If I choose 1) any thoughts on that and if 2) anyone know of a good 
trucking company that is reasonably priced

 

 

Thanks

 

JP

Alethea

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Stus-List Re: our meet and greet

[Joel Delamirande]

Hopefully chuck or Charles can be there
Do u have a subject in mind for the group to chat about
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 4:27 PM Stu  wrote:

> This the correct reservation link for our meet and greet.
>
>
> https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZAqcuCuqzosEtYtYzT5dxkN8M5Fr-9s8FIj
>
>
> Stu
> p.s. I just tried it and it worked for me.
>
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Stus-List Re: Winches

[Matthew]

I don’t disagree.  Cranking winches keeps you strong and healthy – like eating 
Wheaties for breakfast.

 

From: Marek Dziedzic  
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 4:29 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winches

 

I have to be a contrarian...  

 

I have seen numerous ideas for electrifying the winches. Some more reasonable 
than others. 

 

I can imagine that some of them might be helpful in real life. Others? I am 
afraid, not so much.

 

I am in a retirement age, but I'd rather crank my winch manually than try 
handling a big honking angle driver (3-5 lb) with an adapter, especially, if it 
is in anger (any seaway, wind etc.).

 

The eWincher that someone mentioned seems to be better than many.

 

I don't see much point in adjusting the sails using these devices. I can 
imagine, if you are hoisting a big main, it might offer some advantage, but 
even then, I would spend the money on improving the track and cars, rather than 
on the electric assist. 

 

I also don't believe in hoisting anyone on the mast using any kind of winch. I, 
occasionally, climb the mast without any outside assistance, but if I can get 
help, I still climb and use the winch/clutch as the belaying device (a child 
can crank it; there is no load on that line).

 

I can, though, imagine that someone with serious physical limitations 
(injuries, illness) could benefit from using such devices. 

 

I hope I did not touch some hot button here.

 

Marek 

 

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Stus-List Re: Winches

[Marek Dziedzic]

I have to be a contrarian...

I have seen numerous ideas for electrifying the winches. Some more reasonable 
than others.

I can imagine that some of them might be helpful in real life. Others? I am 
afraid, not so much.

I am in a retirement age, but I'd rather crank my winch manually than try 
handling a big honking angle driver (3-5 lb) with an adapter, especially, if it 
is in anger (any seaway, wind etc.).

The eWincher that someone mentioned seems to be better than many.

I don't see much point in adjusting the sails using these devices. I can 
imagine, if you are hoisting a big main, it might offer some advantage, but 
even then, I would spend the money on improving the track and cars, rather than 
on the electric assist.

I also don't believe in hoisting anyone on the mast using any kind of winch. I, 
occasionally, climb the mast without any outside assistance, but if I can get 
help, I still climb and use the winch/clutch as the belaying device (a child 
can crank it; there is no load on that line).

I can, though, imagine that someone with serious physical limitations 
(injuries, illness) could benefit from using such devices.

I hope I did not touch some hot button here.

Marek

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Stus-List our meet and greet

[Stu]

This the correct reservation link for our meet and greet.

https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZAqcuCuqzosEtYtYzT5dxkN8M5Fr-9s8FIj


Stu
p.s. I just tried it and it worked for me.
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Stus-List Re: Don't forget our meet and greet

[Joel Delamirande]

Link don’t work stu
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 12:27 PM Stu  wrote:

> Listers – don’t forget, our next C Meet and Greet virtual rendezvous
> takes place on:
>
>
>
> Tuesday, Oct 27, 2020 07:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>
>
>
> You must register in advance for this meeting:
>
>
> https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZAqcuCuqzosEtYtYzT5dxkN8M5Fr-9s8FIj
>
>
>
> After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing
> information about joining the meeting.
>
>
>
> Our meet and greets have been a huge success in the past.  Join in – you
> won’t be disappointed.
>
>
>
> Stay safe – Stu
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Stus-List Re: Winches

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 A friend spent a year sailing his 35ft Cat around the islands with his wife 
and sometimes another friend. He didn't use the electric drill all the time, 
but did when the job got more difficult. He was in his late sixties/early 
seventies.
I believe he had the Milwaukee angle drill.
He was quite pleased with it.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL


On Monday, October 26, 2020, 03:02:53 PM CDT, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Does anyone know of any crew that has actually used any of these gadgets?  And 
hopefully reported back on their usage? Thanks

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Stus-List Re: Winches

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Does anyone know of any crew that has actually used any of these gadgets?  And 
hopefully reported back on their usage? Thanks
 
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From: Matthew 
To: 'Stus-List' 
Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2020 3:29 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winches

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https://www.thecranker.com/  From: Joel Aronson  
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 2:59 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winches  Matthew, yes, an 18 volt Milwaukee angle drill 
seems to be the $400 solution.  Have not tried it but I’ve seen it used to 
hoist someone up my mast.    Joel   On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 2:19 PM Matthew 
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Stus-List Re: Winches

[Matthew]

https://www.thecranker.com/

 

From: Joel Aronson  
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 2:59 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winches

 

Matthew, yes, an 18 volt Milwaukee angle drill seems to be the $400 solution.  
Have not tried it but I’ve seen it used to hoist someone up my mast.  

 

Joel 

 

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 2:19 PM Matthew mailto:wolf...@erie.net> > wrote:

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Stus-List Re: Winches

[David Knecht]

There is also the WinchRite from Sailrite 
(https://www.sailrite.com/WinchRite-ABT-by-Sailology-Cordless-Winch-Handle).  
My sense is that the Milwaukee is heavy and unwieldy to handle in heaving 
conditions, but I have never actually used one.  I like the fact that the 
ewincher can be used as a standard winch handle or in combination of arm power 
and battery power.  It also can be set so it can’t be overused to destroy 
things which is a problem I have heard of with powered winches.  None of the 
others can do that.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Oct 26, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Matthew  wrote:
> 
> As I recall, as an alternative some people were purchasing a “winch” chuck 
> for use in a Milwaukee power tool that accomplishes the same thing for less 
> money.
>  
> From: David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com>> 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 12:49 PM
> To: CnC CnC discussion list  >
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Winches
>  
> Hi Mark- Thanks for posting the link to the eWincher.  I had not heard of it 
> but the reviews I have read so far are very positive 
> (https://www.yachtingmedia.com/magazine/ewincher-test.html# 
> ).
>   I have been getting concerned about when age will limit my genoa cranking 
> power and have been keeping an eye on electric winches.  This looks like a 
> great alternative.  Not cheap, but you only need one of them.  If anyone gets 
> one, please report back.  
> Related to this- I have spent the entire season racing single handed with my 
> 110% genoa.  I decided I would be single handed due to Covid and did not want 
> to spend the summer winching in the larger (145%) sail myself.  My experience 
> has been that the boat is remarkably fast and competitive with the smaller 
> genoa, especially given the PHRF rating change gives some compensation.  Even 
> in light winds, my overall results were comparable to my 140% genoa.  The big 
> difference is being able to easily tack the boat in heavier air.  I will have 
> to think hard about what to do next year (or whenever) I begin to sail with 
> crew again.  Dave
>  
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>  
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>  
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Stus-List Re: Winches

[Joel Aronson]

Matthew, yes, an 18 volt Milwaukee angle drill seems to be the $400
solution.  Have not tried it but I’ve seen it used to hoist someone up my
mast.

Joel

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 2:19 PM Matthew  wrote:

> As I recall, as an alternative some people were purchasing a “winch” chuck
> for use in a Milwaukee power tool that accomplishes the same thing for less
> money.
>
>
>
> *From:* David Knecht 
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 12:49 PM
> *To:* CnC CnC discussion list 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Winches
>
>
>
> Hi Mark- Thanks for posting the link to the eWincher.  I had not heard of
> it but the reviews I have read so far are very positive (
> https://www.yachtingmedia.com/magazine/ewincher-test.html#
> ).
> I have been getting concerned about when age will limit my genoa cranking
> power and have been keeping an eye on electric winches.  This looks like a
> great alternative.  Not cheap, but you only need one of them.  If anyone
> gets one, please report back.
>
> Related to this- I have spent the entire season racing single handed with
> my 110% genoa.  I decided I would be single handed due to Covid and did not
> want to spend the summer winching in the larger (145%) sail myself.  My
> experience has been that the boat is remarkably fast and competitive with
> the smaller genoa, especially given the PHRF rating change gives some
> compensation.  Even in light winds, my overall results were comparable to
> my 140% genoa.  The big difference is being able to easily tack the boat in
> heavier air.  I will have to think hard about what to do next year (or
> whenever) I begin to sail with crew again.  Dave
>
>
>
> S/V Aries
>
> 1990 C 34+
>
> New London, CT
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> this list to help offset the costs. If you want to support the list - use
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> - Stu
>
>
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-- 
Joel
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Stus-List Re: Winches

[Matthew]

As I recall, as an alternative some people were purchasing a "winch" chuck
for use in a Milwaukee power tool that accomplishes the same thing for less
money.

 

From: David Knecht  
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 12:49 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winches

 

Hi Mark- Thanks for posting the link to the eWincher.  I had not heard of it
but the reviews I have read so far are very positive
(https://www.yachtingmedia.com/magazine/ewincher-test.html#

).  I have been getting concerned about when age will limit my genoa
cranking power and have been keeping an eye on electric winches.  This looks
like a great alternative.  Not cheap, but you only need one of them.  If
anyone gets one, please report back.  

Related to this- I have spent the entire season racing single handed with my
110% genoa.  I decided I would be single handed due to Covid and did not
want to spend the summer winching in the larger (145%) sail myself.  My
experience has been that the boat is remarkably fast and competitive with
the smaller genoa, especially given the PHRF rating change gives some
compensation.  Even in light winds, my overall results were comparable to my
140% genoa.  The big difference is being able to easily tack the boat in
heavier air.  I will have to think hard about what to do next year (or
whenever) I begin to sail with crew again.  Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT








 

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Stus-List 1973 C 30 MKI For Sale

[Gordon Ackland]

Here is the craiglist posting for a C 30, repowered with a Yanmar, for sale 
in Annapolis, MD.  Thank you, inquire within.

https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/annapolis-1973-cc-30-mki-yanmar/7220577038.html

Best,
Gordon
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Stus-List Re: Winches

[David Knecht]

Hi Mark- Thanks for posting the link to the eWincher.  I had not heard of it 
but the reviews I have read so far are very positive 
(https://www.yachtingmedia.com/magazine/ewincher-test.html#).  I have been 
getting concerned about when age will limit my genoa cranking power and have 
been keeping an eye on electric winches.  This looks like a great alternative.  
Not cheap, but you only need one of them.  If anyone gets one, please report 
back.  
Related to this- I have spent the entire season racing single handed with my 
110% genoa.  I decided I would be single handed due to Covid and did not want 
to spend the summer winching in the larger (145%) sail myself.  My experience 
has been that the boat is remarkably fast and competitive with the smaller 
genoa, especially given the PHRF rating change gives some compensation.  Even 
in light winds, my overall results were comparable to my 140% genoa.  The big 
difference is being able to easily tack the boat in heavier air.  I will have 
to think hard about what to do next year (or whenever) I begin to sail with 
crew again.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Oct 25, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar  wrote:
> 
> Another option is the Ewincher - https://www.ewincher.com/en/ 
> 
> I've read an extended review of it on AAC (no personal experience or any 
> links to the company)
> 
> Far cheaper that installing even a single electric winch (not counting the 
> electrical required for the install) and able to move from winch to winch
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Dr. Mark Bodnar, BSc, DC, FCCPOR(C)
>   Chiropractic Rehabilitation Specialist
> Bedford Chiropractic  www.BedfordChiro.ca 
> -
> 
> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
>   - George Santayana
> On 2020-10-25 12:57 p.m., Hoyt, Mike wrote:
>> Hi Fred
>>  
>> Persistence used to have Lewmar 43 electric winches.  We replaced with 
>> Lewmar 40 non electric winches.  Peter Drillio traded me for the electric 
>> winches but never installed them and may still have them (he since sold his 
>> boat).
>>  
>> If interested contact me off list and I will reach out to Peter
>>  
>> Mike Hoyt
>> Persistence
>> Halifax NS
>>  
>> From: Fred Hazzard   
>> Sent: October 24, 2020 8:41 PM
>> To: Stus-List  
>> Subject: Stus-List Winches
>>  
>> As I get older, I think more and more of replacing my primaries with 
>> electric winches.
>> With the cost of about $6000 each for my 44,  I wonder if it is possible to 
>> find used winches salvaged from a storm damaged boat. Of course I also worry 
>> about if doing this would just be asking for trouble. 
>> I will appreciate your thoughts. 
>>  
>> Fred Hazzard
>> S/ V Fury 
>> C 44
>>  
>> 
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Stus-List Don't forget our meet and greet

[Stu]

Listers – don’t forget, our next C Meet and Greet virtual rendezvous takes 
place on:


Tuesday, Oct 27, 2020 07:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) 



You must register in advance for this meeting:

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about joining the meeting.



Our meet and greets have been a huge success in the past.  Join in – you won’t 
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Stus-List Re: Universal diesel

[Bill Coleman]

What he said, Bo

 

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 9:16 AM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Stus-List Re: Universal diesel

 

When I swapped out my A4s I had something similar. I found out the issue by 
disconnected the shift lever from the cable and shifting right at the engine. 
That worked fine, so then I knew the cable needed adjustments. If that doesn’t 
help, something else is wrong.

 

 

Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I

www.dellabarba.com

 

 

 

From: General Gao [mailto:general.z@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:58 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Universal diesel

 

Hi Bill,

 

Thx for the input. So I take it as the reverse and forward are at two ends of 
the travel? I assume there should be no reason that when I move the lever to 
the end of the travel the gear still doesn’t engage?( unless I totally 
destroyed it, which I don’t believe I did anything that can cause that)

 

Bo

 

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 10:47 Bill Coleman  wrote:

Yes, once when I repowered, it did not go into reverse all the way. I 
discovered that the forward reverse lever was just on the verge of popping / 
not popping into gear. In other words, right on the edge of its throw.  This 
was resolved by shortening the throw, in other words moving the Morse connector 
closer to the center of the axis. Usually there are different holes you can put 
the clevis onto to make it a longer or shorter throw period if there aren't, 
then drill a new one in . If this is your problem of course. 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada Erie PA

Bill

 

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Stus-List Re: Universal diesel

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

When I swapped out my A4s I had something similar. I found out the issue by 
disconnected the shift lever from the cable and shifting right at the engine. 
That worked fine, so then I knew the cable needed adjustments. If that doesn’t 
help, something else is wrong.


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



From: General Gao [mailto:general.z@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 8:58 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Universal diesel

Hi Bill,

Thx for the input. So I take it as the reverse and forward are at two ends of 
the travel? I assume there should be no reason that when I move the lever to 
the end of the travel the gear still doesn’t engage?( unless I totally 
destroyed it, which I don’t believe I did anything that can cause that)

Bo

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 10:47 Bill Coleman 
mailto:colt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, once when I repowered, it did not go into reverse all the way. I 
discovered that the forward reverse lever was just on the verge of popping / 
not popping into gear. In other words, right on the edge of its throw.  This 
was resolved by shortening the throw, in other words moving the Morse connector 
closer to the center of the axis. Usually there are different holes you can put 
the clevis onto to make it a longer or shorter throw period if there aren't, 
then drill a new one in . If this is your problem of course.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA
Bill

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 9:22 AM General Gao 
mailto:general.z@gmail.com>> wrote:
So I got my boat back to the marina and the engine worked fine after replacing 
the filters...I will be working on the hoses later before the next season.

However just as I arrived at the marina, another "symptom" showed up. after I 
docked my boat, the marina wanted to move the boat to another spot. One of the 
staff, actually the mechanic who fixed my filters, put the lever into reverse, 
however the gear box would not get into reverse! forward seemed to be fine 
though. I was using the reverse just two minutes ago without issue, how would 
it suddenly not go into reverse?

Yesterday I checked the connection between the lever and the transmission, 
which I believe with Universal it is Hurth? The cable seemed to be moving the 
input shaft.

Anyone have had an experience like this?

Bo

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