Stus-List Re: C 41 thoughts?

[Glenn Henderson via CnC-List]

I have a 1984 41 and I love it. The hull is not a tortured IOR shape. It is
fairly clean. She moves through the water very cleanly. She sails well in
light or heavy air. She is perfectly balanced. She will sail upwind with
the wheel brake on and sail like on an auto pilot. The Dollar/Boatspeed
ratio is very high. I love the interior. Granted, she doesn't have as much
room as a modern 41 foot boat but it is well laid out and proportioned
well. I love the Nav Station/Office. I put plywood "fillers" in the cockpit
to extend the seating for cruising. I wouldn't cruise without them. I
cannot cruise long distances in a slow boat or one that cannot go
upwind.The 41 suits my purposes just fine.

Glenn Henderson


On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:01 PM G Donald Wagner via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dave
>
> I own a C 41 CB hull # 93, Der Baron. Bought her new in 1986, and have
> cruised/raced her ever since. We have enjoyed every minute aboard.
> Many trophies, and many fine memories. My  crew and I , mostly very senior
> citizens, are not able to sail very much, so, I am considering the
> possibility of putting her up for sale.
>
> If you have any specific questions about C 41s, I can answer most of
> them. They are great boats, easily sailed, and sail to the PHRF  Rating
> here on the Chesapeake.
> Feel free to call me, 443-994-5669, and We can talk about C 41s. I'm a
> dedicated C, Having previously owned a C 30 for 12 years prior to
> purchasing the 41.
>
> Never had a Keel/ mast step issue on the 41 . I did experience it on the
> 30.
> My boat is essentially like the standard brochure:
> Tall 3 spreader rig
> Yanmar 3GM35 HF
>Forward facing Nav Station
>aft quarter berth
> Full spinnaker Gear with winch upgrades.
>
> Yes, windows have been a problem, and I have had them replaced. You need
> to pay attention to them.
> I've up graded the track hardware, traveller hardware, the spinnaker pole
> (carbon fiber), the electronics, etc.
> The rig has been unstepped, inspected, stripped, and repainted with
> Awl-Grip.
> The hatches have been stripped, and powder coated prior to replacing the
> acrylic lenses
>
> Don Wagner
> C 41 CB Der Baron
> West River, MD
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: syerd...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 8:41 pm
> Subject: Stus-List C 41 thoughts?
>
>
>
>
> Good evening all.
>
> Am looking to stretch out a bit, and much as I’ve enjoyed and invested in
> my ’85 33-2 Windstar, I’m exploring larger options.  Goal is shorthanded or
> singlehanded daysailing and local cruising on the great lakes and possibly
> Bahamas/Caribbean.  I’ll likely upgrade to a more substantial passagemaker
> when I retire in 5 years or so.
>
> A centreboard C 41 has piqued my interest of late, and if anyone can
> shed some light on the evolution of the model and offer some informed
> commentary or critique, I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> I cannot find any reference to how many 41s were made, and I have not seen
> any for sale that were made prior to ’84, though apparently it was first
> produced in ’81.
>
> They were available with a variety of keels, mostly 7’ or more.
>
> Photos of the earliest 41’s especially are very familiar to me, clearly
> they are big sisters to  the 33-2 and 35-3, sharing many features, hardware
> and materials.
>
> I am aware too that the 41 also shares a few of the 33-2/35-3 “gotchas” –
> leaking windows and keel sump/mast step failures.   Is the keel sump/mast
> step problem limited to fin-keeled boats, or is this also a problem with
> centreboard boats?
>
> Some seem to have had the handy but butt-cracking bridge deck traveller
> (like the 33-2) filled with teak and relocated.  Brochures show the
> traveller at the wheel and also on the cabin top.  Was traveller location
> an option, or have many owners relocated this in the interest of comfort?
> Thoughts?
>
> Some have forward-facing nav stations, with the typical smaller boat open
> quarter berth, some (seemingly  later models) with the bigger-boat
>  rear-facing  nav station and an “aft cabin”  (more like an enclosed
> quarter berth)
>
> Some have with an opening tailgate through the transom, some not.
>
> The galley cabinetry appears to have varied also.
>
> And finally – a google search will turn up a fair bit of criticism of the
> model, this surprised me.  Much of it is the usual opinion-fuelled opinion
> (repeated ad nauseam), and some the usual sweeping generalizations
> regarding IOR boats.  (I don’t plan to fly a spinnaker downwind in huge
> seas)  Wikipedia curiously states:“Designed by Robert Ball at the
> request of C’s new owner Robert plaxton, who wanted [an IOR design]”
> Many commentators also suggest that the 41 is particularly racing-biased,
> and therefore makes a less than ideal choice for single or shorthanded
> sailing.   The brochure suggests the 41 was a production development of a
> custom racing 

Stus-List Re: C 41 thoughts?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Dave, 
I’ve had a 41 for four seasons now. Love this boat!
I moved up from the 34, and the difference is night and day. Roomy, powerful 
and a joy to sail. 
She is robustly built and survived a fall on the hard a few winters ago with 
reparable damage. 
Mine is the fin keeled, 8’ draft model, 3-spreader rig. Trucks upwind with just 
a #3, even better with the main & a manageable 125% Genoa. 
Nothing fancy, but comfy below. Cockpit is high sided and well protected. I can 
single-hand in most conditions. Though to be fair, I don’t push it if it’s 
blowing too hard... 25+kts. 
She’s an ‘84, Hull 053, and I’m finding no signs of mast step issues. Not much 
in the way of leaks and deck is solid. 
Good luck in your search, I have seen a cb model around here, and there are a 
few set up like mine as well.  Great boats!

Best, 
Chuck Borge
C Tenacious
Somerset, MA
Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 8:41 PM, Dave via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Good evening all.
>  
> Am looking to stretch out a bit, and much as I’ve enjoyed and invested in my 
> ’85 33-2 Windstar, I’m exploring larger options.  Goal is shorthanded or 
> singlehanded daysailing and local cruising on the great lakes and possibly 
> Bahamas/Caribbean.  I’ll likely upgrade to a more substantial passagemaker 
> when I retire in 5 years or so.
>  
> A centreboard C 41 has piqued my interest of late, and if anyone can shed 
> some light on the evolution of the model and offer some informed commentary 
> or critique, I would greatly appreciate it.
>  
> I cannot find any reference to how many 41s were made, and I have not seen 
> any for sale that were made prior to ’84, though apparently it was first 
> produced in ’81.  
>  
> They were available with a variety of keels, mostly 7’ or more.
>  
> Photos of the earliest 41’s especially are very familiar to me, clearly they 
> are big sisters to  the 33-2 and 35-3, sharing many features, hardware and 
> materials.  
>  
> I am aware too that the 41 also shares a few of the 33-2/35-3 “gotchas” – 
> leaking windows and keel sump/mast step failures.   Is the keel sump/mast 
> step problem limited to fin-keeled boats, or is this also a problem with 
> centreboard boats?
>  
> Some seem to have had the handy but butt-cracking bridge deck traveller (like 
> the 33-2) filled with teak and relocated.  Brochures show the traveller at 
> the wheel and also on the cabin top.  Was traveller location an option, or 
> have many owners relocated this in the interest of comfort?  Thoughts? 
>  
> Some have forward-facing nav stations, with the typical smaller boat open 
> quarter berth, some (seemingly  later models) with the bigger-boat  
> rear-facing  nav station and an “aft cabin”  (more like an enclosed quarter 
> berth)
>  
> Some have with an opening tailgate through the transom, some not.
>  
> The galley cabinetry appears to have varied also.
>  
> And finally – a google search will turn up a fair bit of criticism of the 
> model, this surprised me.  Much of it is the usual opinion-fuelled opinion 
> (repeated ad nauseam), and some the usual sweeping generalizations regarding 
> IOR boats.  (I don’t plan to fly a spinnaker downwind in huge seas)  
> Wikipedia curiously states:“Designed by Robert Ball at the request of 
> C’s new owner Robert plaxton, who wanted [an IOR design]”
> Many commentators also suggest that the 41 is particularly racing-biased, and 
> therefore makes a less than ideal choice for single or shorthanded sailing.   
> The brochure suggests the 41 was a production development of a custom racing 
> model. 
>  
> I will likely visit the boat this week, and can certainly form my own opinion 
> much of this, but would very much welcome any thoughts.   Many thanks in 
> advance!
>  
> Dave  -  33-2 (for now).
>  
> 
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

[Riley Anderson via CnC-List]

Given that output, I would go for the 30 Amp Victron.

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 8:05 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My alternator is a 60 amp Balmar with an ARS-5 regulator.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Riley Anderson via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2021 3:48 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe ; Riley Anderson <
> svfreighttr...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?
>
>
>
> Hi Joe,
>
>
>
> You have the direction right. The ATEM charger will do you no good. The
> Victron Orion Smart is designed for this specific task. The question now is
> how big is your alternator? What is its rated output in amps? Victron
> recommends a 70 Amp alternator for use with their 30 Amp Orion.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:59 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> If I pull the trigger on this, it is going to be alternator > start
> battery > DC-DC charger > lithium battery.
>
> So what say you lithium experts:
>
> This one
>
> Amazon.com: Victron Energy Orion-Tr Smart 12/12-Volt 30 amp 360-Watt DC-DC
> Charger, Non-Isolated (Bluetooth) : Electronics
> 
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Amazon.com: ATEM POWER 12V 40A DC to DC Battery Charger with MPPT Solar
> Panel Controller for Lead Acid, AGM, Gel, Calcium, LiON Batteries, Multiple
> Protection Design On-Board Charger : Patio, Lawn & Garden
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Fair winds and following seas,
>
>
>
> Charlotte Freeland & Riley Anderson
>
> SV Freight Train
>
> Middletown, CT USA
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
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> - Stu



-- 
Fair winds and following seas,

Charlotte Freeland & Riley Anderson
SV Freight Train
Middletown, CT USA
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Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

My alternator is a 60 amp Balmar with an ARS-5 regulator.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Riley Anderson via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 3:48 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe ; Riley Anderson 

Subject: Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

 

Hi Joe,

 

You have the direction right. The ATEM charger will do you no good. The Victron 
Orion Smart is designed for this specific task. The question now is how big is 
your alternator? What is its rated output in amps? Victron recommends a 70 Amp 
alternator for use with their 30 Amp Orion.

 

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:59 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

If I pull the trigger on this, it is going to be alternator > start battery > 
DC-DC charger > lithium battery.

So what say you lithium experts:

This one

Amazon.com: Victron Energy Orion-Tr Smart 12/12-Volt 30 amp 360-Watt DC-DC 
Charger, Non-Isolated (Bluetooth) : Electronics 

 

 

Or 

 

Amazon.com: ATEM POWER 12V 40A DC to DC Battery Charger with MPPT Solar Panel 
Controller for Lead Acid, AGM, Gel, Calcium, LiON Batteries, Multiple 
Protection Design On-Board Charger : Patio, Lawn  

 & Garden

 

 

Joe

Coquina

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-- 

Fair winds and following seas,

 

Charlotte Freeland & Riley Anderson

SV Freight Train

Middletown, CT USA

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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Things get old. We age with them. My new instruments are already old but I
like them and I want to keep them working like they do now. Good enough for
 me. Raymarine speed depth and wind. I find apparent wind angle invaluable
when it comes to  sail trim and VMG. My instruments are mounted in a pod
above the companionway in direct view from the helm. I like them

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 3:31 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Investigate the Garmin Gwind transducer and Gnd 10 black box bridge.  At
> $600 it will provide NMEA 2000 wind data for you.
>
> It's a descendant of the Nexus instruments.  My 22 year old Nexus
> instruments still work well for me.  I use a Noland NMEA 0183 multiplexer
> to interface my Nexus instruments to my Simrad WP30 wheelpilot.  Steers to
> wind well.  I've been contemplating snagging a used Garmin black box bridge
> off eBay.  Routinely see them for $100.
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 1:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The
>> main reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the
>> EV-100 autopilot.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC,
>> though (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod
>> on the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the
>> chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).
>>
>>
>>
>> I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless
>> unit.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a few questions:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)?
>> My first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as
>> opposed to an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to
>> connect. But this is mainly to control the costs.
>>
>>
>>
>> - With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed
>> the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed
>> wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the
>> wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not
>> required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine
>> with that.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Any strong recommendations against the wireless?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Any other suggestions or recommendations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
>>
>> Ottawa, ON
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
>
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu

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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Dave via CnC-List]

My Raymarine compass sensor was WAY off until I updated the firmware and then ran the calibration routine.   A known issue, but one not often directly discussed.   Dave  Sent from Mail for Windows From: Shawn Wright via CnC-ListSent: September 21, 2021 6:39 PMTo: Stus-ListCc: Shawn WrightSubject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument I like the idea of an integrated compass and wind sensor, as I am currently dealing with possible compass calibration issues; either that or my boat points 7-10deg higher on the port tack, which doesn't seem likely. As a result, I don't pay much attention to the TWA/AWA numbers and go by telltales and windex. I've done the compass calibration procedure, but it still always shows the boat crabbing slightly, so the heading sensor and/or wind sensor must be slightly off.--Shawn Wrightshawngwri...@gmail.comS/V Callisto, 1974 C 35https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto  On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 3:24 PM Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:Very interested in this one.  Intriguing sensor.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 21, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List  wrote:Does anyone have experience with the Airmar WS-150WX?    This is an ultra-sonic transducer that seems to measure just about everything:  true/apparent wind, pressure, temp, gps, compas, pitch & roll, NMEA 0183/2000. I currently have a regular cable-run Raymarine wind system.   It always works.  -Paul E.1981 C Landfall 38 S/V Johanna RoseFort Walton Beach, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/   On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 1:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List  wrote:Hi, I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The main reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the EV-100 autopilot. I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC, though (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead). I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod on the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head). I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit. I have a few questions: - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed to an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But this is mainly to control the costs. - With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine with that. - Any strong recommendations against the wireless? - Any other suggestions or recommendations? Thanks Marek 1994 C270 ”Legato”Ottawa, ON  Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

I like the idea of an integrated compass and wind sensor, as I am currently
dealing with possible compass calibration issues; either that or my boat
points 7-10deg higher on the port tack, which doesn't seem likely. As a
result, I don't pay much attention to the TWA/AWA numbers and go by
telltales and windex. I've done the compass calibration procedure, but it
still always shows the boat crabbing slightly, so the heading sensor and/or
wind sensor must be slightly off.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 3:24 PM Dave S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Very interested in this one.  Intriguing sensor.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 21, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Does anyone have experience with the Airmar WS-150WX?
>
> This is an ultra-sonic transducer that seems to measure just about
> everything:  true/apparent wind, pressure, temp, gps, compas, pitch & roll,
> NMEA 0183/2000.
>
> I currently have a regular cable-run Raymarine wind system.   It always
> works.
>
>
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C Landfall 38
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 1:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The
>> main reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the
>> EV-100 autopilot.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC,
>> though (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod
>> on the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the
>> chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).
>>
>>
>>
>> I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless
>> unit.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a few questions:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)?
>> My first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as
>> opposed to an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to
>> connect. But this is mainly to control the costs.
>>
>>
>>
>> - With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed
>> the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed
>> wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the
>> wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not
>> required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine
>> with that.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Any strong recommendations against the wireless?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Any other suggestions or recommendations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
>> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
>>
>> Ottawa, ON
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Since the price is similar, I'd go for the Victron, for their many choices
of integration with other products in their line. So far I only have a
100/20 SmartSolar, but it has worked well for us.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 11:59 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> If I pull the trigger on this, it is going to be alternator > start
> battery > DC-DC charger > lithium battery.
>
> So what say you lithium experts:
>
> This one
>
> Amazon.com: Victron Energy Orion-Tr Smart 12/12-Volt 30 amp 360-Watt DC-DC
> Charger, Non-Isolated (Bluetooth) : Electronics
> 
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Amazon.com: ATEM POWER 12V 40A DC to DC Battery Charger with MPPT Solar
> Panel Controller for Lead Acid, AGM, Gel, Calcium, LiON Batteries, Multiple
> Protection Design On-Board Charger : Patio, Lawn & Garden
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Very interested in this one.  Intriguing sensor.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Does anyone have experience with the Airmar WS-150WX?   
> 
> This is an ultra-sonic transducer that seems to measure just about 
> everything:  true/apparent wind, pressure, temp, gps, compas, pitch & roll, 
> NMEA 0183/2000.
> 
> I currently have a regular cable-run Raymarine wind system.   It always works.
> 
> 
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C Landfall 38 
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
> 
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 1:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The 
>>> main reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the 
>>> EV-100 autopilot.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC, 
>>> though (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod 
>>> on the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the 
>>> chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have a few questions:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My 
>>> first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed 
>>> to an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But 
>>> this is mainly to control the costs.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> - With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed 
>>> the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed 
>>> wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the 
>>> wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not 
>>> required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine 
>>> with that.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> - Any strong recommendations against the wireless?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> - Any other suggestions or recommendations?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Marek
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
>>> 
>>> Ottawa, ON
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>>> Stu
>> 
> 
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> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

☹️

Neil Andersen
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 6:15:03 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument

Busted!

Bill

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 3:13 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Sorry, wrong list.  I am going to be selling my well loved and well maintained 
C 32 as she has been replaced by a Catalina 387 hull #15.

The question was for the other list.


Neil Andersen
1982 C 32, FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: Richard Bush mailto:bushma...@aol.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 3:47:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: njgallag...@optonline.net 
mailto:njgallag...@optonline.net>>; 
neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com 
mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: wind instrument

OK, what's a "C-387" designation mean?, that's a new one for me...

Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37, CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Neil Gallagher 
mailto:njgallag...@optonline.net>>; Neil Andersen 
mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 3:12 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument

Good topic.  My “new-to-me” C-387 needs a wind anemometer, but I don’t see how 
to run the wires.  Any insight from the list

Neil Andersen
C-387 #15
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Busted!

Bill

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 3:13 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sorry, wrong list.  I am going to be selling my well loved and well
> maintained C 32 as she has been replaced by a Catalina 387 hull #15.
>
> The question was for the other list.
>
>
> Neil Andersen
> 1982 C 32, FoxFire
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
> --
> *From:* Richard Bush 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2021 3:47:06 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> *Cc:* njgallag...@optonline.net ;
> neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re: wind instrument
>
> OK, what's a "C-387" designation mean?, that's a new one for me...
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37, CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Neil Gallagher ; Neil Andersen <
> neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 3:12 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument
>
> Good topic.  My “new-to-me” C-387 needs a wind anemometer, but I don’t see
> how to run the wires.  Any insight from the list
>
> Neil Andersen
> C-387 #15
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks -
> Stu
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> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining nut

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

http://www.arco-winches.com/products/spares
Try here.
Chuck G

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Doug via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> There is an outfit in Australia that has spare parts for barient and Barlow 
> winches. The name escapes me..
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy 
> sv Rebecca Leah 
> C & C Landfall 39
> Port Orchard Yacht Club 
> Port Orchard, WA
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" 
> Date: 9/20/21 17:28 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: "Lisle Kingery, PhD" 
> Subject: Stus-List In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining nut
> 
> Any chance anyone knows of somewhere I might be able to find a Barient 17 st 
> winch retaining nut, the one on the top of the winch. I lost mine today 
> unfortunately when I pulled on the jib sheet and the darn thing was loose and 
> fell overboard. Been scouring the internet with not much luck so thought I 
> would check with the list.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lisle
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Sorry, wrong list.  I am going to be selling my well loved and well maintained 
C 32 as she has been replaced by a Catalina 387 hull #15.

The question was for the other list.


Neil Andersen
1982 C 32, FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: Richard Bush 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 3:47:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: njgallag...@optonline.net ; 
neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: wind instrument

OK, what's a "C-387" designation mean?, that's a new one for me...

Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37, CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


-Original Message-
From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Neil Gallagher ; Neil Andersen 

Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 3:12 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument

Good topic.  My “new-to-me” C-387 needs a wind anemometer, but I don’t see how 
to run the wires.  Any insight from the list

Neil Andersen
C-387 #15
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800
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Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Joe,

Victron make a great premium product.  

Renogy has some  good options which are not as costly.   They make a 20A($115), 
40A(176), or 60A($234) DC2DC charger (all have configurable battery charging 
profiles).If you have a high output alternator then 60A DC2DC charger may 
be a reasonable option.  You would need 2 Victron 30A DC2DC chargers connected 
in parallel for an equivalent.

https://www.renogy.com/battery-chargers/ 


 I would stay away from any of the hybrid DC2DC charger w/ MPPT(Renogy has 
these too).  While it may sound nice to get the added functionality, these MPPT 
all have a low solar V_open_circuit(25V vs 100V normally).  This means that 
solar panels all have to be connected in parallel (more wiring, costs, and 
greater I^2R power loss) which also means the MPPT is limited resulting in 
PWM-like performance.   



-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> If I pull the trigger on this, it is going to be alternator > start battery > 
> DC-DC charger > lithium battery.
> So what say you lithium experts:
> This one
> Amazon.com: Victron Energy Orion-Tr Smart 12/12-Volt 30 amp 360-Watt DC-DC 
> Charger, Non-Isolated (Bluetooth) : Electronics 
> 
>  
> Or 
>  
> Amazon.com: ATEM POWER 12V 40A DC to DC Battery Charger with MPPT Solar Panel 
> Controller for Lead Acid, AGM, Gel, Calcium, LiON Batteries, Multiple 
> Protection Design On-Board Charger : Patio, Lawn & Garden 
> 
>  
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>  Thanks - Stu

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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

With you already having Raymarine, I would stick with it.
Not a fan of wireless on a boat.

Bill Coleman

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 12:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The
> main reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the
> EV-100 autopilot.
>
>
>
> I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC,
> though (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).
>
>
>
> I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod
> on the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the
> chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).
>
>
>
> I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.
>
>
>
> I have a few questions:
>
>
>
> - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My
> first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed
> to an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But
> this is mainly to control the costs.
>
>
>
> - With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed
> the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed
> wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the
> wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not
> required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine
> with that.
>
>
>
> - Any strong recommendations against the wireless?
>
>
>
> - Any other suggestions or recommendations?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

Last time I tried to call Garmin I was on hold for an hour and never did get to 
speak to anyone.

Get Outlook for Android

From: Dreuge via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:57:31 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Dreuge 
Subject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument

Does anyone have experience with the Airmar WS-150WX?

This is an ultra-sonic transducer that seems to measure just about everything:  
true/apparent wind, pressure, temp, gps, compas, pitch & roll, NMEA 0183/2000.

I currently have a regular cable-run Raymarine wind system.   It always works.


-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/




On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 1:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Hi,



I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The main 
reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the EV-100 
autopilot.



I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC, though (I 
have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).



I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod on 
the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the chartplotter 
and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).



I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.



I have a few questions:



- Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My 
first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed to an 
analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But this is 
mainly to control the costs.



- With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed the 
wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed wind angle 
displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the wind display 
somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not required AND I 
could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine with that.



- Any strong recommendations against the wireless?



- Any other suggestions or recommendations?



Thanks



Marek



1994 C270 ”Legato”

Ottawa, ON





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  Thanks - Stu


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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Does anyone have experience with the Airmar WS-150WX?   

This is an ultra-sonic transducer that seems to measure just about everything:  
true/apparent wind, pressure, temp, gps, compas, pitch & roll, NMEA 0183/2000.

I currently have a regular cable-run Raymarine wind system.   It always works.


-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/



> 
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 1:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The main 
> reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the EV-100 
> autopilot.
> 
>  
> 
> I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC, though 
> (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).
> 
>  
> 
> I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod on 
> the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the 
> chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).
> 
>  
> 
> I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.
> 
>  
> 
> I have a few questions:
> 
>  
> 
> - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My 
> first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed to 
> an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But this is 
> mainly to control the costs.
> 
>  
> 
> - With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed the 
> wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed wind 
> angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the wind 
> display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not 
> required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine with 
> that.
> 
>  
> 
> - Any strong recommendations against the wireless?
> 
>  
> 
> - Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> Marek
> 
>  
> 
> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
> 
> Ottawa, ON
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>   Thanks - Stu
> 

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Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

[Riley Anderson via CnC-List]

Hi Joe,

You have the direction right. The ATEM charger will do you no good. The
Victron Orion Smart is designed for this specific task. The question now is
how big is your alternator? What is its rated output in amps? Victron
recommends a 70 Amp alternator for use with their 30 Amp Orion.

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:59 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> If I pull the trigger on this, it is going to be alternator > start
> battery > DC-DC charger > lithium battery.
>
> So what say you lithium experts:
>
> This one
>
> Amazon.com: Victron Energy Orion-Tr Smart 12/12-Volt 30 amp 360-Watt DC-DC
> Charger, Non-Isolated (Bluetooth) : Electronics
> 
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> Amazon.com: ATEM POWER 12V 40A DC to DC Battery Charger with MPPT Solar
> Panel Controller for Lead Acid, AGM, Gel, Calcium, LiON Batteries, Multiple
> Protection Design On-Board Charger : Patio, Lawn & Garden
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu



-- 
Fair winds and following seas,

Charlotte Freeland & Riley Anderson
SV Freight Train
Middletown, CT USA
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 OK, what's a "C-387" designation mean?, that's a new one for me...
 
Richards/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37, CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;
 
Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Neil Gallagher ; Neil Andersen 

Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 3:12 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument

 Good topic.  My “new-to-me” C-387 needs a wind anemometer, but I don’t see how 
to run the wires.  Any insight from the list
Neil AndersenC-387 #15Rock Hall, MD 21661484-354-8800Thanks to all of the 
subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved.  If 
you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution --  
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Hi joe,

I am far from expert however you are comparing two different beasts - one is a 
combined mppt solar charge controller AND dc:dc converter and the other 
(victron)  is a standalone dc:dc converter only.
All else equal, and if you don’t require solar at this point I’d go with the 
victron, of a size that works for you. (There are tradeoffs, discussed 
elsewhere in this thread)  Victron has  a good rep, a broad range of compatible 
hardware, and understand the marine market.   

Dave 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> If I pull the trigger on this, it is going to be alternator > start battery > 
> DC-DC charger > lithium battery.
> So what say you lithium experts:
> This one
> Amazon.com: Victron Energy Orion-Tr Smart 12/12-Volt 30 amp 360-Watt DC-DC 
> Charger, Non-Isolated (Bluetooth) : Electronics
>  
> Or
>  
> Amazon.com: ATEM POWER 12V 40A DC to DC Battery Charger with MPPT Solar Panel 
> Controller for Lead Acid, AGM, Gel, Calcium, LiON Batteries, Multiple 
> Protection Design On-Board Charger : Patio, Lawn & Garden
>  
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Good topic.  My “new-to-me” C-387 needs a wind anemometer, but I don’t see how 
to run the wires.  Any insight from the list

Neil Andersen
C-387 #15
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

My experience with the Tacktick, now Raymarine wireless is that it's 
really nice when it works, but I've struggled with it since I installed 
it about five years ago.  I know others on the list have had good 
experience with it (we've discussed this on the list in the past), but 
while all the other inputs work fine (hull transmitter), the wind sensor 
keeps dropping out.  I've changed batteries and bearings, not much 
difference.  Others seem to have had good success with it, YMMV.



Neil Gallagher
Weatherly 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 9/21/2021 1:59 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:


I have a few questions:

- Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, 
B)? My first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) 
(as opposed to an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) 
to connect. But this is mainly to control the costs.


- With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to 
feed the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the 
detailed wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I 
could put the wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if 
that display is not required AND I could save the cost by not 
including it, I might be fine with that.


- Any strong recommendations against the wireless?

- Any other suggestions or recommendations?




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Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

If I pull the trigger on this, it is going to be alternator > start battery > 
DC-DC charger > lithium battery.
So what say you lithium experts:
This one
Amazon.com: Victron Energy Orion-Tr Smart 12/12-Volt 30 amp 360-Watt DC-DC 
Charger, Non-Isolated (Bluetooth) : 
Electronics

Or

Amazon.com: ATEM POWER 12V 40A DC to DC Battery Charger with MPPT Solar Panel 
Controller for Lead Acid, AGM, Gel, Calcium, LiON Batteries, Multiple 
Protection Design On-Board Charger : Patio, Lawn & 
Garden


Joe
Coquina
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Riley Anderson via CnC-List]

Hi Marek,

I have a Raymarine T120 wireless wind anemometer that I'm trying to sell.
If you want wireless wind data that will talk to your Raymarine autopilot,
you'll need Raymarine's "Micro-talk wireless performance gateway" Part
number E70361 for $265 at Defender. This part will take the wireless data
and convert it to SeaTalk NG. Since its output is SeaTalkNG you can also
interface with any of the newer Raymarine MFDs or i70s series repeaters.
Email me directly if you're interested. svfreighttr...@gmail.com

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The
> main reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the
> EV-100 autopilot.
>
>
>
> I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC,
> though (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).
>
>
>
> I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod
> on the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the
> chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).
>
>
>
> I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.
>
>
>
> I have a few questions:
>
>
>
> - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My
> first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed
> to an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But
> this is mainly to control the costs.
>
>
>
> - With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed
> the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed
> wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the
> wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not
> required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine
> with that.
>
>
>
> - Any strong recommendations against the wireless?
>
>
>
> - Any other suggestions or recommendations?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
>
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
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-- 
Fair winds and following seas,

Charlotte Freeland & Riley Anderson
SV Freight Train
Middletown, CT USA
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Investigate the Garmin Gwind transducer and Gnd 10 black box bridge.  At
$600 it will provide NMEA 2000 wind data for you.

It's a descendant of the Nexus instruments.  My 22 year old Nexus
instruments still work well for me.  I use a Noland NMEA 0183 multiplexer
to interface my Nexus instruments to my Simrad WP30 wheelpilot.  Steers to
wind well.  I've been contemplating snagging a used Garmin black box bridge
off eBay.  Routinely see them for $100.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 1:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The
> main reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the
> EV-100 autopilot.
>
>
>
> I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC,
> though (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).
>
>
>
> I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod
> on the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the
> chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).
>
>
>
> I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.
>
>
>
> I have a few questions:
>
>
>
> - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My
> first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed
> to an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But
> this is mainly to control the costs.
>
>
>
> - With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed
> the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed
> wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the
> wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not
> required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine
> with that.
>
>
>
> - Any strong recommendations against the wireless?
>
>
>
> - Any other suggestions or recommendations?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
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> - Stu



-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Matthew via CnC-List]

I'm happy with my Nexus 2 masthead transducer.  It is wired, although a
wireless version is available.  It is now a Garmin unit, as Garmin acquired
Nexus several years ago.  My original transducer was damaged during a
knock-down, and Garmin had a replacement program that allowed me to turn in
the damaged unit for a new one for about $150.  Otherwise, Garmin's service
left much to be desired.  Perhaps it has improved since I dealt with them.

 

You'd need to talk to Garmin about compatibility issues.  If they don't give
you a quick answer, I'd move on.

 

From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 2:00 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Stus-List wind instrument

 

Hi,

 

I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The
main reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the
EV-100 autopilot.

 

I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don't have a Raymarine MFC, though
(I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).

 

I am a minimalist (you could say "cheap"), so e.g., I don't have a Navpod on
the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the
chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).

 

I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.

 

I have a few questions:

 

- Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My
first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed to
an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But this
is mainly to control the costs.

 

- With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed
the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don't think I need the detailed
wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the
wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not
required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine with
that.

 

- Any strong recommendations against the wireless?

 

- Any other suggestions or recommendations?

 

Thanks

 

Marek

 

1994 C270 "Legato"

Ottawa, ON

 

 

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Stus-List wind instrument

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Hi,

I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The main 
reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the EV-100 
autopilot.

I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don't have a Raymarine MFC, though (I 
have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).

I am a minimalist (you could say "cheap"), so e.g., I don't have a Navpod on 
the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the chartplotter 
and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).

I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.

I have a few questions:

- Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My 
first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed to an 
analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But this is 
mainly to control the costs.

- With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed the 
wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don't think I need the detailed wind angle 
displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the wind display 
somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not required AND I 
could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine with that.

- Any strong recommendations against the wireless?

- Any other suggestions or recommendations?

Thanks

Marek

1994 C270 "Legato"
Ottawa, ON


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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fuel pump problem?

[Doug via CnC-List]

I use a dremel with a metal cutting wheel. Wrap the hose with tape before 
cutting. .Doug Mountjoy sv Rebecca Leah C & C Landfall 39Port Orchard Yacht 
Club Port Orchard, WA
 Original message From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 Date: 9/21/21  07:39  (GMT-08:00) To: Stus-List 
 Cc: "Della Barba, Joe"  
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL]   Re: Fuel pump problem? 

When I was cutting Aeroquip lines I used a sledge hammer and a cold chisel.

Joe
Coquina
 

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 

Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 10:28 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?

 

There is an amazing hose that I came across at one of my favorite industrial 
surplus places many years ago. It was made by Parker , it said Coast Guard 
approved on the outside of it, molded into it. It was blue, and the toughest 
stuff I
 have ever come across. I could not cut it even with the biggest rod cutters 
that I have!   I thought it was going to destroy my bandsaw blade! I think it 
had some type of spring tempered stainless braid in it.

 


 

Bill Coleman



 


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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fuel pump problem?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

When I was cutting Aeroquip lines I used a sledge hammer and a cold chisel.
Joe
Coquina

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 10:28 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?

There is an amazing hose that I came across at one of my favorite industrial 
surplus places many years ago. It was made by Parker , it said Coast Guard 
approved on the outside of it, molded into it. It was blue, and the toughest 
stuff I have ever come across. I could not cut it even with the biggest rod 
cutters that I have!   I thought it was going to destroy my bandsaw blade! I 
think it had some type of spring tempered stainless braid in it.


Bill Coleman

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Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

There is an amazing hose that I came across at one of my favorite
industrial surplus places many years ago. It was made by Parker , it said
Coast Guard approved on the outside of it, molded into it. It was blue, and
the toughest stuff I have ever come across. I could not cut it even with
the biggest rod cutters that I have!   I thought it was going to destroy my
bandsaw blade! I think it had some type of spring tempered stainless braid
in it.



Bill Coleman

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 8:07 AM Dave S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Good idea on the gauge - I had a project car that required one.
>
> This is a good reminder to replace the rubber fuel lines with good quality
> diesel rated hose and also to verify the hose clamps.  Very easy and cheap
> preventative maintenance.
>
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 21, 2021, at 7:28 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I had to track down a fuel problem that was driving me nuts. I had random
> shutdowns that would randomly fix themselves. I ended up with a fuel
> pressure gauge and 2 vacuum gauges, one on each side of the filter. I
> noticed the vacuum would increase on BOTH gauges when there was a shutdown,
> indicating that the restriction was prior to the filter.
>
> What it turned out to be was the fuel fill line was coming apart
> internally and dropping a lot of rubber bits into the tank. They would get
> sucked onto the fuel pickup tube and then fall off later.
>
> Ever since I have had a fuel pressure gauge visible from the helm. I got
> one off FleaBay that has a red warning light in it that comes on below 1
> PSI. Note that a vacuum gauge only tells you if there is a clog, low fuel
> pressure for other reasons lie air in the system or a failed pump leave it
> sit on 0.
>
> If memory serves I sent one of my extra vacuum gauges to a member on the
> list. I still have one permanently installed.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2021 5:17 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Korbey Hunt 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?
>
>
>
> A crew member advised he had an intermitent mystery fuel problem that
> turned out to be a blockage in the fuel supply line at the tank.
>
>
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>
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Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking

[Trevor Parry via CnC-List]

Funny I was just on the phone with a guy in Keswick ON yesterday who
installs both the Plasteak and the EVA. I want to jazz up my cabin sole and
discussed options with him. He's got a 6 week waiting period on the
plasteak delivery and told me I should hang tough until the spring. He
orders the foam stuff from Florida not sure where the plastic comes from.
Anyhoo The plasteak is more expensive and harder on the feet plus it heats
up more quickly with the warmer temps  while the EVA is cheaper, softer and
less reactive to the temperature changes- so he says...

On Mon, 20 Sept 2021 at 11:51, George Cone via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I think that is the same product I used, I choose the gray color, the only
> caution I can provide, is use a very sharp knife and it will come out
> great. the is does seem to wear well.
>
>
>
> george cone
>
> C 40
>
>
>
> *From:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2021 10:19 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* strig...@eastlink.ca; CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking
>
>
>
> I plan to use EVA foam on my cockpit floor.  I bought two rolls of EVA
> that look like teak for $73/roll.  I probably could get away with a single
> roll, but wanted extra material in case.  I have no idea how well it will
> hold up.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/CHURERSHINING-Decking-Marine-Flooring-Adhesive/dp/B07P6ZMW3G/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1=boat%2Bdeck%2Bcovering=1611610224=8-2=1
>
>
>
> Chuck S
>
> On 09/20/2021 9:53 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> George, can you define what is considered "inexpensive"? Also, any photos?
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 584;
>
>
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
>
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
>
> 502-584-7255
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: George Cone via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Rod Stright ; George Cone 
> Sent: Mon, Sep 20, 2021 9:10 am
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Eva faux decking
>
> I put some very inexpensive eva on my cockpit for a test, planning to
> replace it with expensive material if it worked. I had two goals, one the
> admiral wanted something softer to sit on, and two my lab was always
> sliding around and uncomfortable when to boatwould lean. I was concerned
> the dog would tear up the foam with his claws, and also the material would
> stain and look dirty.  This cheap material passed all tests with flying
> colors. I can only imagine how the expensive stuff performs.
>
> Highly recommend the use of it.
>
> Thanks
>
> George
>
> C
>
> Burlington, VT
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for Android 
> --
>
> *From:* Rod Stright via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2021 7:55:15 AM
> *To:* 'Stus-List' 
> *Cc:* Rod Stright 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Eva faux decking
>
>
>
> Has anyone use the EVA teak marine decking?  If so do you recommend it and
> are you aware of a supplier here in Canada and/or Nova Scotia?
>
>
>
> *Rod*
>
> *Halifax*
>
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>
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> Stu
>
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Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I have a vacuum gauge on the line between the fuel tank and the Racor with a 
drag pointer to mark the max vacuum and that has not shown any increase when 
this happens, so I am presuming the line is not plugged.  A pressure gauge on 
the other side of the pump makes sense and I might add that when this is 
sorted.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Sep 21, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Dave S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Good idea on the gauge - I had a project car that required one.  
> 
> This is a good reminder to replace the rubber fuel lines with good quality 
> diesel rated hose and also to verify the hose clamps.  Very easy and cheap 
> preventative maintenance.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 7:28 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I had to track down a fuel problem that was driving me nuts. I had random 
>> shutdowns that would randomly fix themselves. I ended up with a fuel 
>> pressure gauge and 2 vacuum gauges, one on each side of the filter. I 
>> noticed the vacuum would increase on BOTH gauges when there was a shutdown, 
>> indicating that the restriction was prior to the filter.
>> What it turned out to be was the fuel fill line was coming apart internally 
>> and dropping a lot of rubber bits into the tank. They would get sucked onto 
>> the fuel pickup tube and then fall off later.
>> Ever since I have had a fuel pressure gauge visible from the helm. I got one 
>> off FleaBay that has a red warning light in it that comes on below 1 PSI. 
>> Note that a vacuum gauge only tells you if there is a clog, low fuel 
>> pressure for other reasons lie air in the system or a failed pump leave it 
>> sit on 0.
>> If memory serves I sent one of my extra vacuum gauges to a member on the 
>> list. I still have one permanently installed.
>>  
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>>  
>> From: Korbey Hunt via CnC-List > > 
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:17 PM
>> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Cc: Korbey Hunt mailto:kampf2...@hotmail.com>>
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?
>>  
>> A crew member advised he had an intermitent mystery fuel problem that turned 
>> out to be a blockage in the fuel supply line at the tank.
>>  
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>>   Thanks - Stu
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>   Thanks - Stu

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Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Good idea on the gauge - I had a project car that required one.  

This is a good reminder to replace the rubber fuel lines with good quality 
diesel rated hose and also to verify the hose clamps.  Very easy and cheap 
preventative maintenance.

Dave 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 7:28 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I had to track down a fuel problem that was driving me nuts. I had random 
> shutdowns that would randomly fix themselves. I ended up with a fuel pressure 
> gauge and 2 vacuum gauges, one on each side of the filter. I noticed the 
> vacuum would increase on BOTH gauges when there was a shutdown, indicating 
> that the restriction was prior to the filter.
> What it turned out to be was the fuel fill line was coming apart internally 
> and dropping a lot of rubber bits into the tank. They would get sucked onto 
> the fuel pickup tube and then fall off later.
> Ever since I have had a fuel pressure gauge visible from the helm. I got one 
> off FleaBay that has a red warning light in it that comes on below 1 PSI. 
> Note that a vacuum gauge only tells you if there is a clog, low fuel pressure 
> for other reasons lie air in the system or a failed pump leave it sit on 0.
> If memory serves I sent one of my extra vacuum gauges to a member on the 
> list. I still have one permanently installed.
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: Korbey Hunt via CnC-List  
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:17 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Korbey Hunt 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?
>  
> A crew member advised he had an intermitent mystery fuel problem that turned 
> out to be a blockage in the fuel supply line at the tank.
>  
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining nut

[Matthew via CnC-List]

Keep an eye on the tracking.  There’s still a part for one of my winches 
sitting in a warehouse in California (for about five years now).

 

From: Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 5:44 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Lisle Kingery, PhD 
Subject: Stus-List Re: In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining nut

 

Thank you Dean and Doug!!

 

Allen Hutton replied to my email inquiry. $100 for the nut, $35 for shipping, 
3-4 weeks. 

 

Thanks again,

 

Lisle

 

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:49 AM Dean McNeill via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Her’s their web address: http://www.huttonwinches.com/products/spares

 

Dean

BarraWind

C 34

Halifax, Nova Scotia





On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:02 AM, Doug via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

There is an outfit in Australia that has spare parts for barient and Barlow 
winches. The name escapes me..

 

 

 

Doug Mountjoy 

sv Rebecca Leah 

C & C Landfall 39

Port Orchard Yacht Club 

Port Orchard, WA

 

 

 Original message 

From: "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 

Date: 9/20/21 17:28 (GMT-08:00) 

To: Stus-List mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > 

Cc: "Lisle Kingery, PhD" mailto:lisle.king...@gmail.com> > 

Subject: Stus-List In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining nut 

 

Any chance anyone knows of somewhere I might be able to find a Barient 17 st 
winch retaining nut, the one on the top of the winch. I lost mine today 
unfortunately when I pulled on the jib sheet and the darn thing was loose and 
fell overboard. Been scouring the internet with not much luck so thought I 
would check with the list.

 

Thanks,

 

Lisle

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Stus-List Re: In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining nut

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

ARCO.


On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:03 AM Doug via CnC-List 
wrote:

> There is an outfit in Australia that has spare parts for barient and
> Barlow winches. The name escapes me..
>
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> sv Rebecca Leah
> C & C Landfall 39
> Port Orchard Yacht Club
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" 
> Date: 9/20/21 17:28 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: "Lisle Kingery, PhD" 
> Subject: Stus-List In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining
> nut
>
> Any chance anyone knows of somewhere I might be able to find a Barient 17
> st winch retaining nut, the one on the top of the winch. I lost mine today
> unfortunately when I pulled on the jib sheet and the darn thing was loose
> and fell overboard. Been scouring the internet with not much luck so
> thought I would check with the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lisle
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu

-- 
Joel
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Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I had to track down a fuel problem that was driving me nuts. I had random 
shutdowns that would randomly fix themselves. I ended up with a fuel pressure 
gauge and 2 vacuum gauges, one on each side of the filter. I noticed the vacuum 
would increase on BOTH gauges when there was a shutdown, indicating that the 
restriction was prior to the filter.
What it turned out to be was the fuel fill line was coming apart internally and 
dropping a lot of rubber bits into the tank. They would get sucked onto the 
fuel pickup tube and then fall off later.
Ever since I have had a fuel pressure gauge visible from the helm. I got one 
off FleaBay that has a red warning light in it that comes on below 1 PSI. Note 
that a vacuum gauge only tells you if there is a clog, low fuel pressure for 
other reasons lie air in the system or a failed pump leave it sit on 0.
If memory serves I sent one of my extra vacuum gauges to a member on the list. 
I still have one permanently installed.

Joe
Coquina

From: Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:17 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Korbey Hunt 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Fuel pump problem?

A crew member advised he had an intermitent mystery fuel problem that turned 
out to be a blockage in the fuel supply line at the tank.

Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining nut

[Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List]

Thank you Dean and Doug!!

Allen Hutton replied to my email inquiry. $100 for the nut, $35 for
shipping, 3-4 weeks.

Thanks again,

Lisle

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:49 AM Dean McNeill via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Her’s their web address: http://www.huttonwinches.com/products/spares
>
> Dean
> BarraWind
> C 34
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
>
> On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:02 AM, Doug via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> There is an outfit in Australia that has spare parts for barient and
> Barlow winches. The name escapes me..
>
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> sv Rebecca Leah
> C & C Landfall 39
> Port Orchard Yacht Club
> Port Orchard, WA
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" 
> Date: 9/20/21 17:28 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: "Lisle Kingery, PhD" 
> Subject: Stus-List In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining
> nut
>
> Any chance anyone knows of somewhere I might be able to find a Barient 17
> st winch retaining nut, the one on the top of the winch. I lost mine today
> unfortunately when I pulled on the jib sheet and the darn thing was loose
> and fell overboard. Been scouring the internet with not much luck so
> thought I would check with the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lisle
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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