Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

Whatta sad dayto me he was the heart and soul of Garhauer...I would thought 
he was an owner...Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Graham Collins via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/25/21  6:36 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: David Risch via 
CnC-List  Cc: Graham Collins 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Bow Repair 
I believe Guido has passed on recently (Jan 2021, Covid-19) but
  hopefully his spirit lives on at Gauhauer Marine.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11
On 2021-09-25 5:59 p.m., David Risch
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  
I was gonna say what Nathan said...never mind.

  
  

  
Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. 

  
  
  From: Dennis
  C. via CnC-List 
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:01:52 PM
  To: Stus-List 
  Cc: Dennis C. 
  Subject: Stus-List Re: Bow Repair
 
  
  

  If you can't find a local shop, send the thing to Guido
at Garhauer Marine.  He will duplicate it.  Does
excellent work.
  -- 
  
Dennis C.
  Touche' 35-1 #83
  Mandeville, LA

  

  
  
  
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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Peter W. via CnC-List]

I am researching this very question (can tridata work in datamarine thru hull.
I am hoping a fellow lister might have an experience to share.

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> On Sep 25, 2021, at 3:29 PM, Doug via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> When I upgraded to an es and an axiom plotters, I also upgraded to digital 
> radar, the i50 and i60 wind, speed, and depth. I also upgraded the 
> transducers as well. I tried to use an existing transducer from the old 
> Garmin system to no avail. 
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy 
> sv Rebecca Leah 
> C & C Landfall 39
> Port Orchard Yacht Club 
> Port Orchard, WA
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Novabraid via CnC-List 
> Date: 9/25/21 10:46 (GMT-08:00)
> To: 'Stus-List' 
> Cc: csgilchr...@comcast.net
> Subject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument
> 
> Peter,
> 
> For your depth and speed instrument update from Datamarine to the Tridata 
> unit from Raymarine, are you able to incorporate your existing Datamarine 
> analog transducers using the Raymarine ITC-5 or will you need to change 
> through hull transducers as well?
> 
> I’d very much like to integrate my speed and depth with a NMEA 2000 
> chartplotter (Raymarine ES series) and eventually also add wind instruments 
> and digital radar but not sure if I need to upgrade the transducers.
> 
> Chuck Gilchrest
> 
> Half Magic
> 
> 83 Landfall 35
> 
>  
> 
> From: Peter W. via CnC-List  
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:47 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Peter W. 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument
> 
>  
> 
> FWIW, earlier this season, I replaced my TackTick wireless wind instrument 
> with Raymarine's latest offering.  You may recall Raymarine acquired TackTick 
> some years ago.  Except for the branding, The replacement is identical to the 
> original, which worked well for 13 seasons.  In fact, the original unit still 
> works fine for wind SPEED, but it is unreliable for DIRECTION.  Probably, I 
> could have returned it for testing and possible repair, but I didn't want to 
> deal with the cost of retrieval, downtime, and re-install [which assumes the 
> unit could be repaired].  
> 
> I like the unit.  I don't like it when I can't get through to Raymarine.  
> 
> Since my old Datamarine knotmeter is finally giving it up, I purchased a 
> suite of instruments - wind instrument + Tridata display, with wireless cap.  
> could this work for you?
> 
>  
> 
> Pete W.
> 
>  
> 
> Siren Song
> 
> '91 C 30-2
> 
> Irvington, Va.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The main 
> reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the EV-100 
> autopilot.
> 
>  
> 
> I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC, though 
> (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).
> 
>  
> 
> I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod on 
> the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the 
> chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).
> 
>  
> 
> I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.
> 
>  
> 
> I have a few questions:
> 
>  
> 
> - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My 
> first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed to 
> an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But this is 
> mainly to control the costs.
> 
>  
> 
> - With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed the 
> wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed wind 
> angle displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the wind 
> display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not 
> required AND I could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine with 
> that.
> 
>  
> 
> - Any strong recommendations against the wireless?
> 
>  
> 
> - Any other suggestions or recommendations?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> Marek
> 
>  
> 
> 1994 C270 ”Legato”
> 
> Ottawa, ON
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
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Stus-List Re: Guido Gone... :(

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Darn.  Guess Mark is running the show now?

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Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 6:10 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Crapola...He was a good one!
>
> At 03:56 PM 9/25/2021, you wrote:
>
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> I believe Guido has passed on recently (Jan 2021, Covid-19) but hopefully
> his spirit lives on at Gauhauer Marine.
>
>
>
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Stus-List Guido Gone... :(

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Crapola...He was a good one!

At 03:56 PM 9/25/2021, you wrote:

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I believe Guido has passed on recently (Jan 
2021, Covid-19) but hopefully his spirit lives on at Gauhauer Marine.


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11On 2021-09-25 5:59 p.m., David Risch via CnC-List wrote:

I was gonna say what Nathan said...never mind.

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


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From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 


Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:01:52 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

If you can't find a local shop, send the thing 
to Guido at Garhauer Marine.  He will duplicate it.  Does excellent work.

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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


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SV Alera
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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[jim aridas via CnC-List]

Sad to hear about Guido. He made a custom goose neck and a few other fittings 
for me years ago when refitting a pearson 30. Then many blocks and a boom vang 
for my 34 C I would always chat with him at the boat shows. Very interesting 
guy. Built tank parts for Desert Storm operations.
8 Bells for Guido.
Jim Aridas
Formerly Galaxy 34'

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From: Graham Collins via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 6:56:31 PM
To: David Risch via CnC-List 
Cc: Graham Collins 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Bow Repair


I believe Guido has passed on recently (Jan 2021, Covid-19) but hopefully his 
spirit lives on at Gauhauer Marine.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2021-09-25 5:59 p.m., David Risch via CnC-List wrote:
I was gonna say what Nathan said...never mind.

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 

Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:01:52 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

If you can't find a local shop, send the thing to Guido at Garhauer Marine.  He 
will duplicate it.  Does excellent work.
--
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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

I believe Guido has passed on recently (Jan 2021, Covid-19) but 
hopefully his spirit lives on at Gauhauer Marine.


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2021-09-25 5:59 p.m., David Risch via CnC-List wrote:

I was gonna say what Nathan said...never mind.

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


*From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List 
*Sent:* Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:01:52 PM
*To:* Stus-List 
*Cc:* Dennis C. 
*Subject:* Stus-List Re: Bow Repair
If you can't find a local shop, send the thing to Guido at Garhauer 
Marine.  He will duplicate it.  Does excellent work.

--
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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[David Risch via CnC-List]

I was gonna say what Nathan said...never mind.

Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.


From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:01:52 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

If you can't find a local shop, send the thing to Guido at Garhauer Marine.  He 
will duplicate it.  Does excellent work.
--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

If you can't find a local shop, send the thing to Guido at Garhauer
Marine.  He will duplicate it.  Does excellent work.
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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Fuel pump

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

When installing a hose to nipple fitting i recomnend using a hair dryer to warm 
the hose and liquid dish soap to lube the nipple barb.

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From: cenelson via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:09:10 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: cenelson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump

Had a similar problem to yours several years ago. After doing most of what you 
have done, my diesel mechanic suggested just replacing the Racor MA 500(?) top 
plate since even a little over tightening can push the middle down enough that 
the O-ring on the circumference will leak enough that after running for a while 
the air inside it gets into the fuel lines.

This was a cheap enough thing to do that I did it—along with a few other 
‘fixes’ and the problem went away.

Since it was not the only change I made, I can’t be certain that the new top 
plate solved the problem or if it was something else.

Note I am pretty sure that the instructions for the Racor say to only hand 
tighten this plate or something similar—I now know why!

Given how little extra tightening it would take at the Center to deflect the 
circumference/O-ring joint enough to suck air in, (probably a few microns could 
break the vacuum seal) and over time you have air bubbles that get to the 
engine or at least prevent fuel from getting to the engine.

FWIW,

Charlie Nelson


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On Thursday, September 23, 2021, 12:36 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I meant bypass the Racor, turn on the pump and collect fuel into a secondary 
container to test.  I agree that I would not run the engine that way.  I am 
presuming that the flow of fuel through the filter should be a good test of the 
system since the problem was I was getting air into the primary Racor holder, 
so a vacuum leak likely somewhere.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT

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On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Neil Andersen 
mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I would think that risky.  If the Racor is the issue because it is doing its 
job and there is particulate matter coming from the tank, bypassing it will 
allow the matter to get to the engine.

Neil Andersen
1982 C 32, FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

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mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:36:44 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: David Knecht mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Fuel pump

Hi Dennis- The Racor looks OK, but of course that says nothing.  I don’t know 
the Racor model but it is older since it does not have the threaded top that 
you can add a gauge to.  Since that is a more expensive alteration, I thought I 
would replace the fuel lines first and see if that fixes the problem.  If not, 
I thought I would bypass the Racor and see if it works that way and if so, 
replace the Racor itself.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

What type of fuel filter do you have?  If it's a Racor MA500, the top may be 
warped or the gasket may be cracked or displaced.  Those are not infrequent 
issues with that filter.  Either condition could result in air inleakage.


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Stus-List Re: Insurance

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

Yes. Out of water.

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From: Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 11:45:24 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Glenn Henderson ; Korbey Hunt 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance

My problem is my boat is in Mexico and it is 40 years old.  Recent survey value 
was $95k

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From: Glenn Henderson via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 7:56:37 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Glenn Henderson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance

Did they require a full survey?

Glenn and Lindsey Henderson
C 41
WeGo

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 3:48 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I recently received a renewal notice from GEICO (BoatUS). They said my 
insurance premium was reduced (from $1256 to $1226/year). Just for a check, I 
asked Progressive for a quote. Their price for the same amount of insurance was 
$487/year. I am now a Progressive customer.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Doug via CnC-List]

When I upgraded to an es and an axiom plotters, I also upgraded to digital 
radar, the i50 and i60 wind, speed, and depth. I also upgraded the transducers 
as well. I tried to use an existing transducer from the old Garmin system to no 
avail. DougDoug Mountjoy sv Rebecca Leah C & C Landfall 39Port Orchard Yacht 
Club Port Orchard, WA
 Original message From: Novabraid via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/25/21  10:46  (GMT-08:00) To: 'Stus-List' 
 Cc: csgilchr...@comcast.net Subject: Stus-List Re: wind 
instrument Peter,For your depth and speed instrument update from Datamarine to 
the Tridata unit from Raymarine, are you able to incorporate your existing 
Datamarine analog transducers using the Raymarine ITC-5 or will you need to 
change through hull transducers as well?I’d very much like to integrate my 
speed and depth with a NMEA 2000 chartplotter (Raymarine ES series) and 
eventually also add wind instruments and digital radar but not sure if I need 
to upgrade the transducers.Chuck GilchrestHalf Magic83 Landfall 35 From: Peter 
W. via CnC-List  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 
5:47 PMTo: Stus-List Cc: Peter W. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument FWIW, earlier 
this season, I replaced my TackTick wireless wind instrument with Raymarine's 
latest offering.  You may recall Raymarine acquired TackTick some years ago.  
Except for the branding, The replacement is identical to the original, which 
worked well for 13 seasons.  In fact, the original unit still works fine for 
wind SPEED, but it is unreliable for DIRECTION.  Probably, I could have 
returned it for testing and possible repair, but I didn't want to deal with the 
cost of retrieval, downtime, and re-install [which assumes the unit could be 
repaired].  I like the unit.  I don't like it when I can't get through to 
Raymarine.  Since my old Datamarine knotmeter is finally giving it up, I 
purchased a suite of instruments - wind instrument + Tridata display, with 
wireless cap.  could this work for you? Pete W. Siren Song'91 C 
30-2Irvington, Va.  On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 wrote:Hi, I am starting to think about adding the wind 
instrument to the boat. The main reason is for being able to feed the data 
(wind direction) to the EV-100 autopilot. I have a SeatalkNG network on the 
boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC, though (I have a small Garmin chartplotter, 
instead). I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a 
Navpod on the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the 
chartplotter and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head). I unstep the 
mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit. I have a few 
questions: - Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, 
B)? My first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as 
opposed to an analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. 
But this is mainly to control the costs. - With limited space at the helm, what 
is the minimum requirement to feed the wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I 
don’t think I need the detailed wind angle displayed, as long as the AP can 
follow. Though I could put the wind display somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). 
But if that display is not required AND I could save the cost by not including 
it, I might be fine with that. - Any strong recommendations against the 
wireless? - Any other suggestions or recommendations? Thanks Marek 1994 C270 
”Legato”Ottawa, ON  Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the 
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Stus-List Re: Insurance

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

My problem is my boat is in Mexico and it is 40 years old.  Recent survey value 
was $95k

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From: Glenn Henderson via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 7:56:37 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Glenn Henderson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance

Did they require a full survey?

Glenn and Lindsey Henderson
C 41
WeGo

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 3:48 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I recently received a renewal notice from GEICO (BoatUS). They said my 
insurance premium was reduced (from $1256 to $1226/year). Just for a check, I 
asked Progressive for a quote. Their price for the same amount of insurance was 
$487/year. I am now a Progressive customer.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[DJ via CnC-List]

I had a new push pit and stem head fitting fabricated by white water marine.  They produced the original fittings and still had drawings.  They produced a new double roller for me, custom designed to accept my new mantus anchor.  I am more than pleased with results as well as the process. Let me know if you're interested in contact info.DannyOn Sep 25, 2021 12:46 PM, Nathan Post via CnC-List  wrote:Hi Brian,My C bow fitting replacement is shown in photos here:https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sd5YJg8rJ5GwGZ8M7I got the general concept from the Johanna Rose blog http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2018/06/stemhead-replacement.html but wanted to keep it lighter (using aluminum rather than stainless steel) and needed to design around the different features of the C bow.It is designed to use a Mantis roller and I extended the bow a little to provide a tack point for the asymmetrical spin.  I created the design myself in Onshape https://cad.onshape.com/documents/87319ac0373461e07d9c3465/w/8092d805cb5db461fce8cc09/e/94229b4df81f5f30af53d096 using measurements and a wood moc up and then had Xometry build it for me including welding and heavy duty black anodizing.  It didn't fit perfectly and I had to add a stainless steel spacer in front of it so some small adjustments to the design might be a good idea if you are going to have another one fabricated.Since I designed the bottom to be flat for easier fabrication, I had to fill the deck with thickened epoxy to create a flat mounting surface.  I was concerned about the added bending moments from the anchor so I extended it back about 8 inches compared to the original and cut the toe rails accordingly.  That also gave me room to move the chalks back behind the forward pulpit legs. I also added an additional 1/4" G10 backing plate bonded under the existing plywood backing plate underneath it. Fabrication was ~$2800 and then the stainless steel chalks (Schaefer XCL Model 60-50) and roller assembly it was closer to a $3500 upgrade all told.  Probably not the most economical approach in the end and definitely a lot of work although I do like how it came out. I did this as part of a full deck repair/repaint/refit project in spring of 2000.Having an anchor all the way out on the bow does weigh the bow down a bit - I ended up moving my spare anchor out into the aft lazarette to compensate.  Having the roller definitely makes launching and retrieving the anchor a lot easier!Let me know if you have any questions.Nathan







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Stus-List Re: wind instrument

[Novabraid via CnC-List]

Peter,

For your depth and speed instrument update from Datamarine to the Tridata unit 
from Raymarine, are you able to incorporate your existing Datamarine analog 
transducers using the Raymarine ITC-5 or will you need to change through hull 
transducers as well?

I’d very much like to integrate my speed and depth with a NMEA 2000 
chartplotter (Raymarine ES series) and eventually also add wind instruments and 
digital radar but not sure if I need to upgrade the transducers.

Chuck Gilchrest

Half Magic

83 Landfall 35

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:47 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Peter W. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: wind instrument

 

FWIW, earlier this season, I replaced my TackTick wireless wind instrument with 
Raymarine's latest offering.  You may recall Raymarine acquired TackTick some 
years ago.  Except for the branding, The replacement is identical to the 
original, which worked well for 13 seasons.  In fact, the original unit still 
works fine for wind SPEED, but it is unreliable for DIRECTION.  Probably, I 
could have returned it for testing and possible repair, but I didn't want to 
deal with the cost of retrieval, downtime, and re-install [which assumes the 
unit could be repaired].  

I like the unit.  I don't like it when I can't get through to Raymarine.  

Since my old Datamarine knotmeter is finally giving it up, I purchased a suite 
of instruments - wind instrument + Tridata display, with wireless cap.  could 
this work for you?

 

Pete W.

 

Siren Song

'91 C 30-2

Irvington, Va.

 

 

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:00 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I am starting to think about adding the wind instrument to the boat. The main 
reason is for being able to feed the data (wind direction) to the EV-100 
autopilot.

 

I have a SeatalkNG network on the boat. I don’t have a Raymarine MFC, though (I 
have a small Garmin chartplotter, instead).

 

I am a minimalist (you could say “cheap”), so e.g., I don’t have a Navpod on 
the binnacle; rather I have two individual RAM mount pods (for the chartplotter 
and one for the p70s (the autopilot control head).

 

I unstep the mast for every winter, so I am biased towards a wireless unit.

 

I have a few questions:

 

- Any recommendations for the wind instrument (Raymarine, Garmin, B)? My 
first choice would be a unit that talks NMEA 2000 (SeatalkNG) (as opposed to an 
analog unit that requires an extra device (iTC-5?) to connect. But this is 
mainly to control the costs.

 

- With limited space at the helm, what is the minimum requirement to feed the 
wind data to the EV-100 autopilot? I don’t think I need the detailed wind angle 
displayed, as long as the AP can follow. Though I could put the wind display 
somewhere else (on the bulkhead?). But if that display is not required AND I 
could save the cost by not including it, I might be fine with that.

 

- Any strong recommendations against the wireless?

 

- Any other suggestions or recommendations?

 

Thanks

 

Marek

 

1994 C270 ”Legato”

Ottawa, ON

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[Nathan Post via CnC-List]

Hi Brian,

My C bow fitting replacement is shown in photos here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sd5YJg8rJ5GwGZ8M7
I got the general concept from the Johanna Rose blog
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2018/06/stemhead-replacement.html but
wanted to keep it lighter (using aluminum rather than stainless steel) and
needed to design around the different features of the C bow.
It is designed to use a Mantis roller and I extended the bow a little to
provide a tack point for the asymmetrical spin.  I created the design
myself in Onshape
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/87319ac0373461e07d9c3465/w/8092d805cb5db461fce8cc09/e/94229b4df81f5f30af53d096
using measurements and a wood moc up and then had Xometry build it for me
including welding and heavy duty black anodizing.  It didn't fit perfectly
and I had to add a stainless steel spacer in front of it so some small
adjustments to the design might be a good idea if you are going to have
another one fabricated.

Since I designed the bottom to be flat for easier fabrication, I had to
fill the deck with thickened epoxy to create a flat mounting surface.  I
was concerned about the added bending moments from the anchor so I extended
it back about 8 inches compared to the original and cut the toe rails
accordingly.  That also gave me room to move the chalks back behind the
forward pulpit legs. I also added an additional 1/4" G10 backing plate
bonded under the existing plywood backing plate underneath it. Fabrication
was ~$2800 and then the stainless steel chalks (Schaefer XCL Model 60-50) and
roller assembly it was closer to a $3500 upgrade all told.  Probably not
the most economical approach in the end and definitely a lot of work
although I do like how it came out.

I did this as part of a full deck repair/repaint/refit project in spring of
2000.

Having an anchor all the way out on the bow does weigh the bow down a bit -
I ended up moving my spare anchor out into the aft lazarette to
compensate.  Having the roller definitely makes launching and retrieving
the anchor a lot easier!

Let me know if you have any questions.

Nathan

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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[Brian Morrison via CnC-List]

Thanks Joel

Dr. Brian C. Morrison

On Sep 25, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
wrote:


Sorry Kato marine

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:05 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Kari Marine in Annapolis

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 8:45 AM Brian Morrison via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hello All,

I had an unfortunate encounter with a buoy and my 1979 C 34 suffered pretty 
severe damage to the bow. The chain plate for the forestay was bent and needs 
to be replaced. There is some fiberglass repair needed as well. I’m thinking of 
fixing it myself. Anyone know where I can get a chain plate/backing plate from. 
And, advice on repairing the fiberglass. I’m located in Baltimore, MD. See pics 
attached.

Thanks
Brian

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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Sorry Kato marine

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:05 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Kari Marine in Annapolis
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 8:45 AM Brian Morrison via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I had an unfortunate encounter with a buoy and my 1979 C 34 suffered
>> pretty severe damage to the bow. The chain plate for the forestay was bent
>> and needs to be replaced. There is some fiberglass repair needed as well.
>> I’m thinking of fixing it myself. Anyone know where I can get a chain
>> plate/backing plate from. And, advice on repairing the fiberglass. I’m
>> located in Baltimore, MD. See pics attached.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Brian
>>
>>
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> --
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Stus-List Re: Insurance

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

Chunk does he do Canada too

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:11 AM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I got a “classic boat” policy for my 83 Landfall 35 through Hagerty which
> is underwritten through Essentia Insurance.  This last year they
> automatically increased the loss replacement value due to market changes,
> but the premium increase was nominal (about 2%).  They do have  5 year
> survey requirement that includes a mast down rig inspection.  My surveyor
> is a former C owner and differentiates an insurance survey from a
> purchase survey which has kept costs at a reasonable level.  My insurance
> agent is a very accomplished sailor and I have no doubt he’d go to bat for
> me in the event of a serious claim.  Perhaps I’m paying a slight amount
> more by using an agency who gets a commission but I’ve seen my agent out at
> the waterfront at 7am after a named storm passed through, helping secure
> boats and assessing damage and arranging towing.  Worth every cent in my
> opinion.
> Chuck Gilchrest
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 Landfall 35
> Padanaram,MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 25, 2021, at 10:31 AM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> That may be true for new policies, or in your location, or something to do
> with your agent, but Progressive refused to write a liability-only policy
> for my 1980 sailboat in central Florida 5 years ago. They put a low
> valuation on the boat and a considerable deductible, which effectively made
> it liability-only, but it still wound up costing over $800 USD per year.
>
> Steve Thomas
>
> C MKI
>
> Merritt Island, FL
> -- Original Message --
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: rockybazem...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 10:23 AM
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance
>
> Just looked into it and Progressive is only liability coverage for boats
> over 20 years old. If your boat gets struck by lighting or sinks you get
> $0. Guess I'll stick with Geico. I got struck by lightning last year and
> they fixed everything. Yes it is expensive. Correct me if I'm wrong.
> Rocky
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 9:47 AM Matthew via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> That was why I left Boat US / GEICO in the first place – that whole
>> reduced value to 20% baloney. I switched to Travelers, which had a good
>> policy but dramatically increased its annual premium the last three years.
>> As a result, I’m now with Progressive.
>>
>> I’m the kind of person who likes to find a good policy with reasonable
>> rates and stick with it. For boat insurance, however, it pays to shop
>> around.
>>
>> *From:* David Risch via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2021 9:25 AM
>> *To:* Stus-List 
>> *Cc:* Andy Frame  David Risch 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Insurance
>>
>> Check the fine print. Ask the question. If I lose the mast
>>
>> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
>>
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Stus-List Re: Insurance

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

I got a “classic boat” policy for my 83 Landfall 35 through Hagerty which is 
underwritten through Essentia Insurance.  This last year they automatically 
increased the loss replacement value due to market changes, but the premium 
increase was nominal (about 2%).  They do have  5 year survey requirement that 
includes a mast down rig inspection.  My surveyor is a former C owner and 
differentiates an insurance survey from a purchase survey which has kept costs 
at a reasonable level.  My insurance agent is a very accomplished sailor and I 
have no doubt he’d go to bat for me in the event of a serious claim.  Perhaps 
I’m paying a slight amount more by using an agency who gets a commission but 
I’ve seen my agent out at the waterfront at 7am after a named storm passed 
through, helping secure boats and assessing damage and arranging towing.  Worth 
every cent in my opinion.
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic
1983 Landfall 35
Padanaram,MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 10:31 AM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> That may be true for new policies, or in your location, or something to do 
> with your agent, but Progressive refused to write a liability-only policy for 
> my 1980 sailboat in central Florida 5 years ago. They put a low valuation on 
> the boat and a considerable deductible, which effectively made it 
> liability-only, but it still wound up costing over $800 USD per year. 
> 
> Steve Thomas
> 
> C MKI 
> 
> Merritt Island, FL
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: rockybazem...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 10:23 AM
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance
> 
> Just looked into it and Progressive is only liability coverage for boats over 
> 20 years old. If your boat gets struck by lighting or sinks you get $0. Guess 
> I'll stick with Geico. I got struck by lightning last year and they fixed 
> everything. Yes it is expensive. Correct me if I'm wrong.
> Rocky
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 9:47 AM Matthew via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> That was why I left Boat US / GEICO in the first place – that whole reduced 
>> value to 20% baloney. I switched to Travelers, which had a good policy but 
>> dramatically increased its annual premium the last three years. As a result, 
>> I’m now with Progressive.
>> 
>> I’m the kind of person who likes to find a good policy with reasonable rates 
>> and stick with it. For boat insurance, however, it pays to shop around.
>> 
>> From: David Risch via CnC-List  
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 9:25 AM
>> To: Stus-List 
>> Cc: Andy Frame  David Risch 
>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance
>> 
>> Check the fine print. Ask the question. If I lose the mast
>> 
>> Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you.
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Kari Marine in Annapolis

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 8:45 AM Brian Morrison via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I had an unfortunate encounter with a buoy and my 1979 C 34 suffered
> pretty severe damage to the bow. The chain plate for the forestay was bent
> and needs to be replaced. There is some fiberglass repair needed as well.
> I’m thinking of fixing it myself. Anyone know where I can get a chain
> plate/backing plate from. And, advice on repairing the fiberglass. I’m
> located in Baltimore, MD. See pics attached.
>
> Thanks
> Brian
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Insurance

[Glenn Henderson via CnC-List]

Did they require a full survey?

Glenn and Lindsey Henderson
C 41
WeGo

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 3:48 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I recently received a renewal notice from GEICO (BoatUS). They said my
> insurance premium was reduced (from $1256 to $1226/year). Just for a check,
> I asked Progressive for a quote. Their price for the same amount of
> insurance was $487/year. I am now a Progressive customer.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[Nathan Post via CnC-List]

Hi Brian,

Ouch -- yes, that is fairly extensive damage, but anything is repairable.
Was the welded chainplate on the inside damaged as well?  I am talking
about the part with the tang that the forestay actually attaches to)?  You
will want to remove it entirely and inspect carefully for cracks.

I suspect you will need to fabricate (or have fabricated for you) a new
stainless steel plate on the outside at a minimum. However, that is a
fairly simple part as it is just a flat piece of stainless steel cut to the
correct shape with countersunk holes.  McMasterCarr sells the stock you
will need in small quantities:
https://www.mcmaster.com/stainless-steel-plate/corrosion-resistant-316-stainless-steel-6/
and a local machine shop should be able to do the machining if you don't
have the tools to do it yourself. If you are handy with cad (on-shape is a
free online program for personal projects) then you can also use a company
like Xometry online to have it fabricated elsewhere (they can do welding
etc. to - you just have to request it).

My recommendation for the fiberglass is to grind out the damaged area
entirely and then create as shallow a taper as you can (at least a 12/1
slope) from there going outwards in all directions on the sides of the
hull.  If the resulting hole is large, it may be helpful to glue a thin
sheet of pre-cured but flexible fiberglass laminate (could start with G10
from mcmastercarr) on the inside to provide a backing plate to lay up the
new glass against, or you could create an inside mold with wood that is
shaped to match the inside of the hull and wrapped in release cloth and
braced inside the chain locker. Then cut and layer in glass cloth soaked in
epoxy that gradually increases in size and rotate every layer by 45 deg to
create a quasi-isotropic laminate. (If you build up to about the same
thickness, then the end result will be stronger than the original). Use a
long-working time epoxy (at least several hours) and I recommend using a
vacuum bagging system with bags on the inside and outside) to create
compression and remove voids as the epoxy cures.  Depending on total
thickness it may be a good idea to do this in several steps with half a
dozen layers each, sanding and cleaning the surface before each subsequent
lamination to remove the amine blush.

Finally sand/grid smooth, use epoxy filler for any diviots and sand again /
repeat until smooth.  Prime and paint.  If the rest of the hull is the
original gel coat and you don't want to paint it all, you could consider
making just the bow a contrasting color with a straight vertical edge
between the paint and gel coat (it could look good, even intentional).

Was the aluminum bow casting also damaged?  If so, I have one from my 1981
C 34 I can send you (I replaced it with a custom one to add an anchor
roller last year).  The only challenge is that the pin for the forestay is
seized so that will take some work to remove or drill it out. I used the
original chainplates so I don't have those as extras.  However,
a possibility is if you can find a boat that was salvaged and they kept the
chainplates you might be able to get them relatively inexpensively.  I
wonder what happened to Rob Ball's 34 after it sank and the insurance
company totaled it?

Nathan
S/V Wisper
Lynn, MA
1981 C 34


On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 8:45 AM Brian Morrison via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I had an unfortunate encounter with a buoy and my 1979 C 34 suffered
> pretty severe damage to the bow. The chain plate for the forestay was bent
> and needs to be replaced. There is some fiberglass repair needed as well.
> I’m thinking of fixing it myself. Anyone know where I can get a chain
> plate/backing plate from. And, advice on repairing the fiberglass. I’m
> located in Baltimore, MD. See pics attached.
>
> Thanks
> Brian
>
>
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> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

You have sinned against the boat!  As penance thou must read well the 
bible of repair 
, 
and purchase great quantities of itchy stuff and west epoxy...


The metalwork - as was already commented, take off the bent bit and have 
a local machine shop duplicate it.  Stainless 316L is the most corrosion 
resistant likely to be available.  Doesn't have to be an exact match 
since you'll be drilling new holes...


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2021-09-25 9:44 a.m., Brian Morrison via CnC-List wrote:

Hello All,

I had an unfortunate encounter with a buoy and my 1979 C 34 suffered 
pretty severe damage to the bow. The chain plate for the forestay was 
bent and needs to be replaced. There is some fiberglass repair needed 
as well. I’m thinking of fixing it myself. Anyone know where I can get 
a chain plate/backing plate from. And, advice on repairing the 
fiberglass. I’m located in Baltimore, MD. See pics attached.


Thanks
Brian



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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

Take the damaged ones to a local fabrication shop, they should be able to make 
you new ones.

Paul

From: Brian Morrison via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 8:44:50 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Brian Morrison 
Subject: Stus-List Bow Repair

Hello All,

I had an unfortunate encounter with a buoy and my 1979 C 34 suffered pretty 
severe damage to the bow. The chain plate for the forestay was bent and needs 
to be replaced. There is some fiberglass repair needed as well. I’m thinking of 
fixing it myself. Anyone know where I can get a chain plate/backing plate from. 
And, advice on repairing the fiberglass. I’m located in Baltimore, MD. See pics 
attached.

Thanks
Brian

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Stus-List Bow Repair

[Brian Morrison via CnC-List]

Hello All,

I had an unfortunate encounter with a buoy and my 1979 C 34 suffered pretty 
severe damage to the bow. The chain plate for the forestay was bent and needs 
to be replaced. There is some fiberglass repair needed as well. I’m thinking of 
fixing it myself. Anyone know where I can get a chain plate/backing plate from. 
And, advice on repairing the fiberglass. I’m located in Baltimore, MD. See pics 
attached.

Thanks
Brian

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Stus-List Re: Insurance

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

We have a local agent who focuses on insuring older boats.  5 years ago he 
placed me with New Hampshire which is part of AIG.  Require survey every 5 
years.  Does have mature vessel provision which precludes coverage for fuel 
leaks and propulsion system.  Not an issue for me as recently replaced tank and 
fuel lines.  Does pay for loss caused by these items.  Pays $10/ft for 
emergency haul out for named storm.  Coverage ME to NC.  Winter haul out.  
Premium $474 for coverage

$23K  hull value (based on survey) (2% deductable)

$300Kindemnity

$1K towing

$2.5K personal items

$300Kuninsured boater

$997Kfuel spill liability

 

Pays to shop around

 

 

John 

Legacy III

1982 C 34

Noank, CT

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