Stus-List Re: Genoa sheets
For reference, here's a pic of Touche's jib track. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_sb5TfIENvsOWdQOXM1aEQzb0U/view?usp=sharing=0-_jwd_f8MH2sUnmMrG17D_g The track was located in coordination with my sailmaker when he made the 95% headsail. I trim the 95 between the forward lower and upper shrouds. I lead the sheet through a snatch block on the jib track then aft through the genoa car on my long track then to the primary winch.I change at about 17 knots true. Touche' likes the 95. :) If the wind builds over 22 kts, we trim to the toe rail to open the slot and stand the boat up a bit. Thankfully, we've only had to do that once or twice. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 3:49 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Just got back from almost 6 weeks on our 35-2, but it has a custom Solent > rig with two furlers, 135 on outer, 95 on inner. At the halfway point, the > old Harken mk1 furler top swivel exploded and rained bearings on the deck, > fortunately on the way in, not out. > Anyway, that meant rigging our 95 blade jib for all purpose work, so I > currently have the sheets lead outside the shrouds and to the toerail with > snatch blocks. The stock genoa track doesn't extend far enough forward for > this sail, which is probably similar to a 105-110 when mounted further aft > on the inner furler (about 30" aft) - the clew reaches about 10" past the > aft lowers. > For extended upwind work, I have lead it inboard of the uppers and aft > shrouds, but this leaves only a very narrow working range for bearing off, > since I had to use the stanchion base or toerail. A longer genoa track > forward, or a barberhauler might could improve this. > Interestingly, I found we can point nearly as high with it rigged to the > toerail, and I have better control of the sail shape. Our last sail home > two days ago we blasted past a newer ~40' cruiser by pointing at least 5% > higher while maintaining 6+ kts boat speed in 15-18kts TW and current > against us. I don't think he was trying that hard though, whereas we wanted > to get through before the current made it impossible with the huge tides > this week. One of the issues I've found with this blade jib is that it > doesn't seem to create a decent slot effect with the main due to minimal > overlap, so I am often trimming the main independently of the jib (ie: > hardened up more) to get better boat speed, at least until the AW is over > 15, at which point the main needs to be eased a bit. > > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com > S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto > > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 6:03 PM Donald Kern via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Paul >> It kind of depends on your track set up. My #4 (~110%) leads outside the >> forward lower and inside center upper and aft lower. >> >> Don Kern >> *Fireball*, C Mk2 >> Bristol, RI >> >> On 7/9/2022 1:11 PM, Paul Florin via CnC-List wrote: >> >> On a 35ft C MK II with a 110% genoa, sheets inside or outside shrouds? >> >> -- Paul Florin >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Stus-List Re: Genoa sheets
Just got back from almost 6 weeks on our 35-2, but it has a custom Solent rig with two furlers, 135 on outer, 95 on inner. At the halfway point, the old Harken mk1 furler top swivel exploded and rained bearings on the deck, fortunately on the way in, not out. Anyway, that meant rigging our 95 blade jib for all purpose work, so I currently have the sheets lead outside the shrouds and to the toerail with snatch blocks. The stock genoa track doesn't extend far enough forward for this sail, which is probably similar to a 105-110 when mounted further aft on the inner furler (about 30" aft) - the clew reaches about 10" past the aft lowers. For extended upwind work, I have lead it inboard of the uppers and aft shrouds, but this leaves only a very narrow working range for bearing off, since I had to use the stanchion base or toerail. A longer genoa track forward, or a barberhauler might could improve this. Interestingly, I found we can point nearly as high with it rigged to the toerail, and I have better control of the sail shape. Our last sail home two days ago we blasted past a newer ~40' cruiser by pointing at least 5% higher while maintaining 6+ kts boat speed in 15-18kts TW and current against us. I don't think he was trying that hard though, whereas we wanted to get through before the current made it impossible with the huge tides this week. One of the issues I've found with this blade jib is that it doesn't seem to create a decent slot effect with the main due to minimal overlap, so I am often trimming the main independently of the jib (ie: hardened up more) to get better boat speed, at least until the AW is over 15, at which point the main needs to be eased a bit. -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 6:03 PM Donald Kern via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Paul > It kind of depends on your track set up. My #4 (~110%) leads outside the > forward lower and inside center upper and aft lower. > > Don Kern > *Fireball*, C Mk2 > Bristol, RI > > On 7/9/2022 1:11 PM, Paul Florin via CnC-List wrote: > > On a 35ft C MK II with a 110% genoa, sheets inside or outside shrouds? > > -- Paul Florin > > > > > > >
Stus-List Re: Barient 26 winch questions
When you open the winches for maintenance on the boat, a good idea is to use a shoe box with a hole made in the bottom. If anything shoots, it will end up in the box. Btw. once you disassemble everything you can take the box off for better access (put it back before reassembly) Just an idea. Marek 1994 C270 ”Legato” Ottawa, ON From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 4:04 PM To: Stus-List Cc: ALAN BERGEN Subject: Stus-List Re: Barient 26 winch questions West Marine used to carry pawls and springs that fit Barient winches On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 11:23 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Does anyone know the drum diameter of the Barient 26s that are on the 35 MK I? Also do I dare take them apart for greasing? If a spring shoots overboard can I still get more? Thanks! Joe -- Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR
Stus-List Re: Barient 26 winch questions
West Marine used to carry pawls and springs that fit Barient winches On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 11:23 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Does anyone know the drum diameter of the Barient 26s that are on the 35 > MK I? > > Also do I dare take them apart for greasing? If a spring shoots overboard > can I still get more? > > Thanks! > > Joe > > > -- Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR
Stus-List Non- Gooey VHF handheld
I am afraid I'm going to have to ditch my standard horizon 850 handheld. It has gotten so gooey, I can't stand to touch it, not to mention any place I leave it, it leaves gooey stuff. I blame the company for outsourcing to China. I wonder if anybody has a handheld that they feel the rubber is of a decent quality that it won't go to hell in a hand basket in a few years? I'm kind of looking for a mid-grade, maybe like an Icon m73 plus? I like the idea of being able to repeat the last minute of audio, as I have gotten so accustomed to backing up on my TV when I can't hear something clearly. Bill Coleman Entrada Erie PA >
Stus-List Re: Barient 26 winch questions
Drum: Base 7.0" dia Top: 6.0" dia Rope Drum: tapered, 3.5" dia widest at bottom. Let me know if you need more info, I have one apart in my garage. Neil Gallagher Weatherly, 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 7/13/2022 2:22 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: Does anyone know the drum diameter of the Barient 26s that are on the 35 MK I? Also do I dare take them apart for greasing? If a spring shoots overboard can I still get more? Thanks! Joe Coquina
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Barient 26 winch questions
Those are pretty much generic, just find and measure one from the other winch, and order a bag from McMaster! Bill On Thu, Jul 14, 2022, 09:20 Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > Thanks everyone! > > I’ll just go measure the winch, I can’t seem to find that spec anyplace > online. > > As for the springs, last time I greased the winches one launched itself > overboard. Back then they were in stock at West Marine. Maybe not so much > now? > > > > > > *Joe Della Barba* > > *From:* Rick Brass via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2022 3:01 PM > *To:* Stus-List > *Cc:* Rick Brass > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Barient 26 winch questions > > > > Can't help with the diameter, Joe, got 22's on my 25, and 25's, 28's, and > 32's on Imzadi. > > > > To prevent losing anything over the side, go to Office Depot and buy a > cardboard box that is X by X by X, where X is a comfortable amount larger > than the diameter of your winch base. I use 4" larger myself. > > > > Or you can go to the post office and get a large flat rate priority mail > box. Probably larger than you need, but it is free. > > > > Assemble the box and remove the top flaps. Cut a hole in the bottom the > diameter of the winch base. Put the box over the winch, and anything that > jumps and anything you drop or spill falls into the box. > > > > As far a springs go, as someone already said there is a source for Barient > parts in New Zealand, though I don't believe it is Arco. > > But check with your local West Marine first, that is where the packet of > spare pawl springs for my Barient winches came from a few years ago, and I > presume they still sell them. > > > > Rick Brass > > Washington, NC > > -Original Message- > From: Stus-List > Sent: Jul 13, 2022 2:23 PM > To: Stus-List > Cc: Della Barba, Joe > Subject: Stus-List Barient 26 winch questions > > > > Does anyone know the drum diameter of the Barient 26s that are on the 35 > MK I? > > Also do I dare take them apart for greasing? If a spring shoots overboard > can I still get more? > > Thanks! > > Joe > > Coquina > > >
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Barient 26 winch questions
Google search indicates the base diameter as 7 inches. I'd guess the drum is 3 1/2 to 3 3/4 inch diameter. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 8:20 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > Thanks everyone! > > I’ll just go measure the winch, I can’t seem to find that spec anyplace > online. > > As for the springs, last time I greased the winches one launched itself > overboard. Back then they were in stock at West Marine. Maybe not so much > now? > > > > > > Does anyone know the drum diameter of the Barient 26s that are on the 35 > MK I? > > Also do I dare take them apart for greasing? If a spring shoots overboard > can I still get more? > > Thanks! > > Joe > > Coquina > > >
Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Barient 26 winch questions
Thanks everyone! I’ll just go measure the winch, I can’t seem to find that spec anyplace online. As for the springs, last time I greased the winches one launched itself overboard. Back then they were in stock at West Marine. Maybe not so much now? Joe Della Barba From: Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 3:01 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Rick Brass Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Barient 26 winch questions Can't help with the diameter, Joe, got 22's on my 25, and 25's, 28's, and 32's on Imzadi. To prevent losing anything over the side, go to Office Depot and buy a cardboard box that is X by X by X, where X is a comfortable amount larger than the diameter of your winch base. I use 4" larger myself. Or you can go to the post office and get a large flat rate priority mail box. Probably larger than you need, but it is free. Assemble the box and remove the top flaps. Cut a hole in the bottom the diameter of the winch base. Put the box over the winch, and anything that jumps and anything you drop or spill falls into the box. As far a springs go, as someone already said there is a source for Barient parts in New Zealand, though I don't believe it is Arco. But check with your local West Marine first, that is where the packet of spare pawl springs for my Barient winches came from a few years ago, and I presume they still sell them. Rick Brass Washington, NC -Original Message- From: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Jul 13, 2022 2:23 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> Subject: Stus-List Barient 26 winch questions Does anyone know the drum diameter of the Barient 26s that are on the 35 MK I? Also do I dare take them apart for greasing? If a spring shoots overboard can I still get more? Thanks! Joe Coquina
