Stus-List Re: Therapy’s in Buffalo

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Congratulations Tom!  I'm a bit envious of your trip! I'm glad you're home safe and sound! DannyOn Jun 10, 2023 9:28 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List  wrote:Greetings all - 

I completed the 720nm trip at 1230 today, pulling into my slip at RCR Marina in Buffalo. 

Many thanks to everyone for the encouragement.   It also was extra cool meeting Todd at Lock 17!  I had 5 different crewmates (ballast?!) during the 23 day passage. 

It was a bucket list trip. ⛵️

Tom Perison
Therapy 
29 Mk 2
RCR Marina 
Buffalo, NY


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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

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Andy, Would have any suggestions as to what to stay clear of? I'd have to try and get out sailing on some boats over this coming season...DannyOn Feb 22, 2023 4:21 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  wrote:Danny, I’ve delivered several modern fat-assed boats and though they tick a lot of boxes, they do not sail well unless you’re on your ear because of all the wetted surface.AndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On Feb 22, 2023, at 16:01, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  wrote:Hey guys thanks for the suggestions. I've got hylas, oyster, moody, Ron Holland on my list so far.Maybe a Bavaria, or Dufour but, those can really slam going to wind...The ones that interest me currently are more than I want to spend but, I have a feeling there is going to be a change in the boat market over the next 18 to 24 months...On Feb 22, 2023 3:34 PM, david coleman via CnC-List  wrote:Danny,I have a 1984 c&c 43 landfall if you need to ask questions.It does not tick all of your boxes like sugar scoop etc but has many features  you listed .After you get a short list developed  let me know if I can help.Most of the boats listed on this thread  are not in my budget.My experience  is any boat Is a compromise   of  priorities. Good LuckDavidOn Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 2:31 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List  wrote:Danny,C&C 43?Hylas 46/49/54/56 (no separate shower on the 49)Outbound 46 (hard to find)Bristol (older)Good luck with the search!JoelOn Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 1:42 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List  wrote:Hi guys,
 
So, We sold Rum Runner IV and we're going to start the process for our next boat.
I'm not really sure who said that selling a boat is typically a happy day for a boater.  This is our 3rd sailboat sold, and we've been sad to see each of them go.
We'd been discussing going to something a bit more modern, with more room.  So, as the boat was in really great condition, I thought I would list it and see if anyone was interested.  
I've bee eyeing center cockpit designs.  Some of our desired features are,
about 45 - 50 feet,
at least a sugar scoop transom if not walk thru,
larger cockpit (as most of our time, on board, is spent there)
lighter, brighter interior,
a good sized head with separate shower
a nice master suite with an island berth
 
Anyway, if anyone knows of any vessels we might want to check out, let me know!
 
Danny
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Stus-List Re: C&C 35 Mk I Recommendations for Sailmaker

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I ordered a sail from precision sails about 7 years ago that I'm really happy with. DannyOn Jan 5, 2023 5:45 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List  wrote:
Thanks. 


Get 
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Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 35 Mk I Recommendations for Sailmaker
 


I ordered new from North pretty impressed can’t wait to try them


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Dave Foy @ BYC is a North Rep

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I ve used Sportech Sails in St Catherine’s for sails and canvas work for a while now. Been very happy with Jamie’s work



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Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

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That's good info Neil,  thanks! On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  wrote:
My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in
Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35'
sailboat, could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside
crane to hoist a mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a
good place for DIY, they didn't care what you did on the boat.  The
yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I
guess.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  No. I don't know anything about any of these yards
except that they aren't owned by Safe Harbor.
Andy

  

  

  

  
Andrew Burton
  26 Beacon Hill
  Newport, RI
  USA 02840
  http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

  phone  +401 965 5260
  

  

  

  
  

  
  
  
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49
  AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
  wrote:


  Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient
for winter work!  Close to the house!


I was also considering somerset marina on
  the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on that facility? 
  
  
On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew
  Burton via CnC-List 
  wrote:
  
Danny, 
  Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws,
O'connell's and Bristol Marine up the Taunton River.
I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
by Safe Harbor.
Andy

  

  

  

  
Andrew Burton
  26 Beacon Hill
  Newport, RI
  USA 02840
  http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

  phone  +401 965 5260
  

  

  

  
  

  



  On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny
Haughey via CnC-List 
wrote:
  
  
Hello all, 
  Was wondering if anyone had any
suggestions for winter storage somewhere around
Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option
too. 
  
  
  The yard I was using needs to drop
the mast and they can be a little clumsy.
They've damaged my boat several times in their
handling and I've done a massive amount of
cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
I'd like to protect. 
  
  
  I've also just completely rehabbed
the mast. So, dropping it seems like a waste of
effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find
a mast up solution if possible. 
  
  
  Thanks for any insights anyone can
offer! 
  
  
  Danny
  Rum Runner IV
  T40
  Mattapoisett MA

  

  


  

  


  

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[DJ via CnC-List]

Yea, I've heard some horror stories about that place!  On Sep 17, 2022 12:14 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  wrote:As always, avoid Borden Light Marine in Fall River. Worst yard I've ever seenAndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RIUSA 02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/phone  +401 965 5260On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:05 PM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  wrote:
  

  
  
My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in
Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35'
sailboat, could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside
crane to hoist a mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a
good place for DIY, they didn't care what you did on the boat.  The
yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I
guess.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  No. I don't know anything about any of these yards
except that they aren't owned by Safe Harbor.
Andy

  

  

  

  
Andrew Burton
  26 Beacon Hill
  Newport, RI
  USA 02840
  http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

  phone  +401 965 5260
  

  

  

  
  

  
  
  
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49
  AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
  wrote:


  Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient
for winter work!  Close to the house!


I was also considering somerset marina on
  the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on that facility? 
  
  
On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew
  Burton via CnC-List 
  wrote:
  
Danny, 
  Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws,
O'connell's and Bristol Marine up the Taunton River.
I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
by Safe Harbor.
Andy

  

  

  

  
Andrew Burton
  26 Beacon Hill
  Newport, RI
  USA 02840
  http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

  phone  +401 965 5260
  

  

  

  
  

  



  On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny
Haughey via CnC-List 
wrote:
  
  
Hello all, 
  Was wondering if anyone had any
suggestions for winter storage somewhere around
Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option
too. 
  
  
  The yard I was using needs to drop
the mast and they can be a little clumsy.
They've damaged my boat several times in their
handling and I've done a massive amount of
cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
I'd like to protect. 
  
  
  I've also just completely rehabbed
the mast. So, dropping it seems like a waste of
effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find
a mast up solution if possible. 
  
  
  Thanks for any insights anyone can
offer! 
  
  
  

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Lithium Batteries

[DJ via CnC-List]

Hi Dwight, Are you plugged in to shore power?   I usually get about 5 to 7 years out of flooded batteries.   I switched to trojan T105s last year.   I wanted to go with the firefly batteries but they won't fit.  I did get a pretty robust solar system set up at the same time as the new batteries so, I'm expecting the batteries will be happier.  I beat the heck out of the last one's.  They came with the boat, were not real deep cycle and the boat lives in a mooring.  So those only got charged from the engine.  Which doesn't really get that much use.  Now, i show up to fully charged batteries, and the solar charger on float, every time!  I don't really run anything when we're not on the boat.  It would be great to run the fridge full time but, I'm not comfortable enough for that yet.  DannyOn Jul 29, 2022 5:03 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List  wrote:Joe. My flooded group 27 lead acid batteries spend their life on my boat, usually about 10-15 years. They seem happy enough on my 35 and they meet my power needs. They are heavy like you said. On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 3:56 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  wrote:







That is half the reason I am interested, hauling heavy hunks of lead around is tough on the back past a certain age, never mind the effect on the boat.
Joe
Coquina
 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 11:54 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Lithium Batteries

 

flooded 8D is 160 pounds.  200 aH Lifepo is 40.

 



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On Jul 29, 2022 5:03 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List  wrote:Joe. My flooded group 27 lead acid batteries spend their life on my boat, usually about 10-15 years. They seem happy enough on my 35 and they meet my power needs. They are heavy like you said. On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 3:56 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  wrote:







That is half the reason I am interested, hauling heavy hunks of lead around is tough on the back past a certain age, never mind the effect on the boat.
Joe
Coquina
 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 11:54 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Lithium Batteries

 

flooded 8D is 160 pounds.  200 aH Lifepo is 40.

 



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On Jul 29, 2022 5:03 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List  wrote:Joe. My flooded group 27 lead acid batteries spend their life on my boat, usually about 10-15 years. They seem happy enough on my 35 and they meet my power needs. They are heavy like you said. On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 3:56 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  wrote:







That is half the reason I am interested, hauling heavy hunks of lead around is tough on the back past a certain age, never mind the effect on the boat.
Joe
Coquina
 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 11:54 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Lithium Batteries

 

flooded 8D is 160 pounds.  200 aH Lifepo is 40.

 



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Stus-List Jamestown distributors

[DJ via CnC-List]

Hi all, Did you guys know Jamestown distributors closed the store? I'm sat here in their driveway looking at a sign that reads,  "the store is permanently closed"Google said they're open...DannyOn Apr 18, 2022 11:19 AM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:Today is the last day to get your custom C&C cutting board with free 
boat name and font.  A savings of up to $8.00

Order form is on the C&C Photo Album site -- http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/

Stu

Stus-List Re: C&C 34/36 Boat reviewed in Sailing magazine

[DJ via CnC-List]

I went with the hella sea hawk lights when i replaced mine last year. They are nice and bright.  Much brighter than the old incandescent lights they replaced.  Great build quality.  They were somewhat bulky but, that didn't concern me given where they are.  DannyOn Jan 17, 2022 4:53 PM, Tom Vaughan via CnC-List  wrote:Would you please forward the Review to: tomvaughan@yahoo.com? Thanks.                  Tom VaughanSent from my iPadOn Jan 12, 2022, at 8:11 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  wrote:

  
   
 
 
  
   FWIW, there is a nice used boat review of the C&C 34/36 in the 2022 Jan/Feb Sailing magazine.
  
  
   If anyone is interested, I can share a copy of the article.
  
  
   
  
  
   Chuck S
   
  
 
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Stus-List Re: Confession Time - "Dark Side"...not so dark

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That's a lot of boat!  I'm jealous! On Jan 6, 2022 3:00 PM, David Risch via CnC-List  wrote:

We have sold the family home and purchased Rogue aka “The Beast” (Gulfstar 49 MY) and are living aboard her in Florida.  Specific location will change every few months as we determine where to next buy dirt.
 
Fear not as we have not sold our beloved Corsair which will remain in Marion and be our home base in the summer as we continue to peruse New England.
 
If others are thinking of doing the same, feel free to ask questions.  I will not tell anyone…promise.
 
 
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Stus-List Re: happy new year

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Happy new year all! On Dec 31, 2021 4:56 PM, stu--- via CnC-List  wrote:


From Stu ‘n’ Gladys
 

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Stus-List Re: Wifi antenna at top of mast

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That's pretty funny! On Nov 10, 2021 8:46 AM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List"  wrote:On a humorous note, one of my neighbors named his WiFi system “FBI Surveillance Van”. 

Dennis C. 

> On Nov 10, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> A word of caution: connecting to some far-away wireless networks is frought with problems (risks). You never know to whom you are connecting and either you steal from some poorly protected personal network, or you connect to a public Wi-Fi. Either way, you are an easy target. 
> 
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Stus-List Wifi antenna at top of mast

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Hi all, I think someone mentioned having an antenna at the top of the mast that helps pull in distant wifi signals.  Can anyone point me in the direction of a product that would help with picking up wifi while on the hook?  Is it a 2 part system?  One to receive the signal at the top of mast connecting to another,  in the boat, that transmits?DannyThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

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I used Zephyr works for all my mast sheeves last year.   Really nice guy, did really nice work for like $50 each. DannyOn Nov 9, 2021 4:23 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List  wrote:
+1 for Zephyr Works.


They are not cheap, but they are good.


I have them make the set of masthead sheaves and a few boom end one. Perfect fit.


Marek


1994 c270 Legato
Ottawa ON







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 Original message 
From: Matthew via CnC-List  
Date: 2021-11-09 15:59 (GMT-05:00) 
To: 'Stus-List'  
Cc: Matthew  
Subject: Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves 




Zephyrwerks is an excellent source for custom-made sheaves if you cannot find something off the shelf that fits.  I had three masthead sheaves made since we lowered my mast about a month ago.  Ed (the owner) suggested replacing the worn
 pins as well, so he made a set (including welding the C&C plate on the end).  The new sheaves and pins are already back on the mast and ready to go for next year.  Very professional; very prompt.
 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 3:12 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Source for sheaves

 


https://www.rigrite.com/


 


https://www.zephyrwerks.com/

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Touche' 35-1 #83


Mandeville, LA


 





On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:58 PM Rod Stright via CnC-List  wrote:




I am looking for some 2” sheaves for the end of my boom (4).  I believe the old ones were Delrin or some sort of plastic and the sun took its tool.  I believe someone had a very good source for sheaves on the
 list.
 
Rod Stright
Halifax







 

 




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Stus-List Re: Exterior Teak hand rails and trim

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The teak will slowly wear away and become very porous.I replaced the rails on our viking 33 and the 7/8 rails were more like 5/8.  You could really see the wear at the connection points as they seems to flare a bit right at the deck. DannyOn Oct 2, 2021 2:20 AM, Donald Kern via CnC-List  wrote:


There was discussion on teak and what was the best application to
apply.  However, on my '74 C&C35 Mk2 the exterior trim and
handrails have been bare for the last 10 years (the varnish flacked
off).  I kind of like the look of the lightly greyed teak, what are
the disadvantages of not putting a finish on the teak?

Don Kern
Fireball, C&C35 Mk2
Bristol, RI
  
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Stus-List Re: Mast in and out

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We don't really have any of those clubs, I hear about in Canada, around these parts.  Most boatyards here see boat owners as 'marks' and try to squeeze as much of the boat owners money as they can get.  I was paying over $900 to haul, unstep/step the mast, and move the boat a couple miles to and from the storage yard, each way.  That's for a 40 foot boat with about 50 foot stick. Not all boat yards are run this way.  I can think of 2 right now that were good experiences but neither of them can handle my boat.  One will only take boats up 34 feet and the other did not want to mess with the track of the Sheafer boom furling system that ran up the mast. Most other yards make me want to sell my boat and give up on boating until i retire...DannyOn Oct 1, 2021 11:10 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List  wrote:

Same here (NSC in Ottawa). If you do it yourself, it cost you nothing; you just need a few friends to help. If you hire a local “service provider”, they will do it for about $100. I use them for
 the haul-out and unstepping in the fall, or for launching and stepping in the spring and the total cost is around $200-$300 (depending on the size of the boat). Our spar crane can handle most of the masts, though the Club limits the boat size to 36’ (so the
 masts are also limited in size). I think our spar crane can handle 500 kg max.
 
Marek
Ottawa, ON
 


From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List

Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 2:53 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Mast in and out


 
We have a spar crane at our club that is no charge to members.  We get a group of owners together to do our own
 
If we pay someone it is under $500 each way for  boat such as the 35.  I suspect that you may need to hire a boom truck, etc as part of your mast down and put it back up
 
Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax
 
 
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Sent: October 1, 2021 2:51 PM
To: 1 CnC List 
Cc: Jim Watts 
Subject: Stus-List Mast in and out
 


As part of a quote for potentially painting the topsides, we were given a cost for the local rigger to take the mast out and put it back in. I thought $1500 was a little steep, but I haven't done this since
 we had our 29-2, so maybe prices have gone up by 10X in the interim. I'm curious as to what kind of costs folks are incurring on their mast work just to see if this is reasonable. I also recently got a quote for $4500 which then ballooned to $9000 and counting
 to replace our rod rigging with wire. Does this sound at all in the ballpark?




 


Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC





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Stus-List Re: Bed-It Butyl Tape

[DJ via CnC-List]

So,  marine-how-to is run by just one man and he had a stroke a few weeks ago (I posted about it, here, at the time).  Last I heard he was alert but had a long recovery ahead of him.  There is no one to service the site or the store right now.  So, I believe they just disabled the whole thing. It's going to take some searching to find the right stuff. Please, let us all know if you're able to find a source. DannyOn Oct 2, 2021 2:19 AM, Donald Kern via CnC-List  wrote:

I went to the web site  that this
forum recommended to purchase a roll of Bed-It tape and did not find
that the tape was available.  Did Marine how to get out of
the Butyl tape business?  Is there a recommended alternate ?


Don Kern
Fireball, C&C35 Mk2
Bristol, RI
  
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Stus-List Re: Bow Repair

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I had a new push pit and stem head fitting fabricated by white water marine.  They produced the original fittings and still had drawings.  They produced a new double roller for me, custom designed to accept my new mantus anchor.  I am more than pleased with results as well as the process. Let me know if you're interested in contact info.DannyOn Sep 25, 2021 12:46 PM, Nathan Post via CnC-List  wrote:Hi Brian,My C&C34 bow fitting replacement is shown in photos here:https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sd5YJg8rJ5GwGZ8M7I got the general concept from the Johanna Rose blog http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2018/06/stemhead-replacement.html but wanted to keep it lighter (using aluminum rather than stainless steel) and needed to design around the different features of the C&C34 bow.It is designed to use a Mantis roller and I extended the bow a little to provide a tack point for the asymmetrical spin.  I created the design myself in Onshape https://cad.onshape.com/documents/87319ac0373461e07d9c3465/w/8092d805cb5db461fce8cc09/e/94229b4df81f5f30af53d096 using measurements and a wood moc up and then had Xometry build it for me including welding and heavy duty black anodizing.  It didn't fit perfectly and I had to add a stainless steel spacer in front of it so some small adjustments to the design might be a good idea if you are going to have another one fabricated.Since I designed the bottom to be flat for easier fabrication, I had to fill the deck with thickened epoxy to create a flat mounting surface.  I was concerned about the added bending moments from the anchor so I extended it back about 8 inches compared to the original and cut the toe rails accordingly.  That also gave me room to move the chalks back behind the forward pulpit legs. I also added an additional 1/4" G10 backing plate bonded under the existing plywood backing plate underneath it. Fabrication was ~$2800 and then the stainless steel chalks (Schaefer XCL Model 60-50) and roller assembly it was closer to a $3500 upgrade all told.  Probably not the most economical approach in the end and definitely a lot of work although I do like how it came out. I did this as part of a full deck repair/repaint/refit project in spring of 2000.Having an anchor all the way out on the bow does weigh the bow down a bit - I ended up moving my spare anchor out into the aft lazarette to compensate.  Having the roller definitely makes launching and retrieving the anchor a lot easier!Let me know if you have any questions.Nathan







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Stus-List Re: Bimini for 1984 37

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Hi Pete, Where are you/your boat located?DannyOn Sep 7, 2021 9:21 PM, "pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List"  wrote:I held out as long as I could and am now looking into adding a bimini to my 37. Does anyone have strong opinion for options or recommendations for suppliers?  thxThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: Moving on up!

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You're kidding? How much are you hoping to get for the 44?DannyOn Sep 5, 2021 2:11 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  wrote:I got a case of 5 foot itis. We bought a Hylas 49 and am selling Atlantis, our Hylas 44. Randy Paul and Chuck have been offshore on her and can attest to her ability. If interested please let me know. Joel-- Joel 
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Stus-List Re: Solar question

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Yea when it rains i do get a lot of water down the mast.   And it rained pretty good.  It isn't the most efficient pump either, as i get a good backwash when it cuts off.   But that's a task for another day...On Aug 29, 2021 4:39 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List  wrote:Does your bilge pump run that much in a week to drain your batteries. Must be a lot of water getting inOn Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 4:35 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List  wrote:Hi all, So, I took the solar panels and the Bimini in for the hurricane that was coming least week. And I had to keep them off for the week because I couldn't get back to the boat, and the batteries went down to 11.4 I guess running the bilge pump all week. I put the panels back up and I'm getting the voltage out of them but the victron is not charging the batteries.  Would this be an indication that the batteries charge has gotten too low and that the Charger won't start the charge?Thanks, Danny Original message From: Stu via CnC-List  Date: 8/29/21  12:19 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: C&C Email List  Cc: Stu  Subject: Stus-List Don't forget the upcoming rendezvous 



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Stus-List Re: New Foresail.

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Yea, it can be quite a task getting pricing from the various sources.   I've done it before. The first time, i used porpoise sails in Florida and got a used head sail and a new main.   I had no idea what i was doing and the prices were great. The second time,  After a lot of quotes, i ended up using a local loft.  With a boat show discount, their price was very competitive.   Not as competitive as rolly tasker though.  However, they were quantum sails.   Very nice sails! The last time i used precision sail loft.  Great pricing and very customizable with sail cloth options and added features.  I got a 135% for my 40 foot tartan for about $3300 delivered and i got the best level with all the added features like, added rows of stitching and reinforced everything!  The lowest level would have been just under $2000 IIRC.  I wouldn't hesitate to use them again.  When i Googled the loft address it showed the same address for quantum sail loft. More recently, i did some research on a main sail and got pricing from neil pryde  that was very competitive.  They made my existing main sail and when I'm ready I'll probably be going with them for the new main sail.  I have the Shafer boom furling system and they already have the design on file.  That might be why the price was so good. It's really not an easy task and you should probably get into by getting a bunch of quotes and learn what the different prices represent.  Or, just get the cheapest.  I guess it depends on how much of a hurry you're in.  The boat shows are usually a good place to start.DannyOn Jul 10, 2021 11:36 PM, Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:This year I  ordered a ‘performance cruising’ radial cut #2 Genoa from rolly tasker sails in Thailand - second sail from them, no regrets at all.Dave 33-2Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 10, 2021, at 10:22 PM, Korbey Hunt via CnC-List  wrote:





Im looking online for a new foresail for my 1980  34 C&C.  New prices run from $2 to $4,000.  Where do I start?



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Stus-List Re: C&C 37r coming to market soon

[DJ via CnC-List]

No, she's not even listed yet. On Jul 8, 2021 9:36 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List  wrote:Is the 37r sold already On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:33 PM David Risch via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:





You da man. Thank you but  keeping my Corsair for continued NE explorations. Was just offered more than market.  Nope.  My escape valve.   She is so damned pretty.  






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Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 37r coming to market soon
 


You can always come sailing with me! 

On Jul 8, 2021 12:17 PM, David Risch via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



Waiting for the damned boat yard!
 

From: DJ via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 11:28 AM
To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: DJ <djhaughey@juno.com>
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 37r coming to market soon

 

The boat is in Mattapoisett, MA

 


I'm about to have lunch with the owner if there are any questions.   I'll get the usual info


 


David?  Where are you these days?  I want to see your new "stink pot!"  LOL


 


Danny



 

On Jul 8, 2021 11:19 AM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:




Where is 37R located?


 




On Thursday, July 8, 2021, 08:04:26 AM EDT, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



 


 





Me too I would like to revive the brand 


I curious to see the boat



 


On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 6:22 AM Bob Tallman <rltallman@verizon.net> wrote:



Good morning,


 


37R is for the racing model of that line.


You had:


37+


37 XL


37 R


Note that they are all 40 foot boats, the fun part of a decision to stretch out the hull and add more stuff but keep the name.  And most marinas know the model is a 40 so not
 much savings per foot there.


 


I owned a 37+ center board, she was fast as well, pointing was not so bad since the CB was actually a large stainless disk that dropped down, not a traditional dagger board.


There were shoal keels and deep fin versions as well.


 


The R is the race circuit model and yes it is a fast boat.  Nice interior but no aft berth, it was a racing setup.  Mid ship berths etc?..


 


The XL was the blended version.  Had all the creature comforts, taller rig, similar to the R, but setup was more cruiser vs. racer.  


Great line, just the dang  C&C window problem but all fixable?.


 


I moved on to a 121, love C&C, wish they would magically make one more new run of the lines??..  


 


On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 5:45 AM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



That would be great


What does the R stand for?


 




On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Danny via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



Hello all, 

 


A friend of mine, who is not on the list,  is about to list his beautiful C&C 37r for sale. 


 


I don't know all the details yet but, i do know it's been very well cared for, is in great condition, and is really fast! 


 


I've been on this boat a number of times.  It's in really great shape! 


 


Let me know if there are any questions I can get answers to. 


 


I'll get year and price and such soon.  I just thought i would throw this out there in case anyone was looking or knew someone that might be interested. 


 


Thanks, 


Danny


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Stus-List Re: C&C 37r coming to market soon

[DJ via CnC-List]

You can always come sailing with me! On Jul 8, 2021 12:17 PM, David Risch via CnC-List  wrote:

Waiting for the damned boat yard!
 

From: DJ via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 11:28 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: DJ 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 37r coming to market soon

 

The boat is in Mattapoisett, MA

 


I'm about to have lunch with the owner if there are any questions.   I'll get the usual info


 


David?  Where are you these days?  I want to see your new "stink pot!"  LOL


 


Danny



 

On Jul 8, 2021 11:19 AM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:




Where is 37R located?


 




On Thursday, July 8, 2021, 08:04:26 AM EDT, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



 


 





Me too I would like to revive the brand 


I curious to see the boat



 


On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 6:22 AM Bob Tallman <rltallman@verizon.net> wrote:



Good morning,


 


37R is for the racing model of that line.


You had:


37+


37 XL


37 R


Note that they are all 40 foot boats, the fun part of a decision to stretch out the hull and add more stuff but keep the name.  And most marinas know the model
 is a 40 so not much savings per foot there.


 


I owned a 37+ center board, she was fast as well, pointing was not so bad since the CB was actually a large stainless disk that dropped down, not a traditional
 dagger board.


There were shoal keels and deep fin versions as well.


 


The R is the race circuit model and yes it is a fast boat.  Nice interior but no aft berth, it was a racing setup.  Mid ship berths etc?..


 


The XL was the blended version.  Had all the creature comforts, taller rig, similar to the R, but setup was more cruiser vs. racer.  


Great line, just the dang  C&C window problem but all fixable?.


 


I moved on to a 121, love C&C, wish they would magically make one more new run of the lines??..  


 


On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 5:45 AM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



That would be great


What does the R stand for?


 




On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Danny via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



Hello all, 

 


A friend of mine, who is not on the list,  is about to list his beautiful C&C 37r for sale. 


 


I don't know all the details yet but, i do know it's been very well cared for, is in great condition, and is really fast! 


 


I've been on this boat a number of times.  It's in really great shape! 


 


Let me know if there are any questions I can get answers to. 


 


I'll get year and price and such soon.  I just thought i would throw this out there in case anyone was looking or knew someone that might be interested. 


 


Thanks, 


Danny


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Stus-List Re: C&C 37r coming to market soon

[DJ via CnC-List]

The boat is in Mattapoisett, MAI'm about to have lunch with the owner if there are any questions.   I'll get the usual infoDavid?  Where are you these days?  I want to see your new "stink pot!"  LOLDannyOn Jul 8, 2021 11:19 AM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List  wrote:
Where is 37R located?





On Thursday, July 8, 2021, 08:04:26 AM EDT, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List  wrote:



Me too I would like to revive the brand I curious to see the boatOn Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 6:22 AM Bob Tallman  wrote:Good morning,37R is for the racing model of that line.You had:37+37 XL37 RNote that they are all 40 foot boats, the fun part of a decision to stretch out the hull and add more stuff but keep the name.  And most marinas know the model is a 40 so not much savings per foot there.I owned a 37+ center board, she was fast as well, pointing was not so bad since the CB was actually a large stainless disk that dropped down, not a traditional dagger board.There were shoal keels and deep fin versions as well.The R is the race circuit model and yes it is a fast boat.  Nice interior but no aft berth, it was a racing setup.  Mid ship berths etc?..The XL was the blended version.  Had all the creature comforts, taller rig, similar to the R, but setup was more cruiser vs. racer.  Great line, just the dang  C&C window problem but all fixable?.I moved on to a 121, love C&C, wish they would magically make one more new run of the lines??..  On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 5:45 AM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List  wrote:That would be greatWhat does the R stand for?On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:18 PM Danny via CnC-List  wrote:Hello all, A friend of mine, who is not on the list,  is about to list his beautiful C&C 37r for sale. I don't know all the details yet but, i do know it's been very well cared for, is in great condition, and is really fast! I've been on this boat a number of times.  It's in really great shape! Let me know if there are any questions I can get answers to. I'll get year and price and such soon.  I just thought i would throw this out there in case anyone was looking or knew someone that might be interested. Thanks, DannyThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu-- Joel Delamirande
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