Stus-List c redline 41 1968
am going to put up for sale located vancouver island ...currently reasonable to ship as can use commercial shipper...not over ht or width..and if delivered east pic nearest USA border pointmuch new ,engine,standing rigging,furlingi stove,fireplace, new 150 dacron headsail,all sails great ,much more new,for full info contact owner at...kellyjimmy...@gmail.com...am considering purchase off used c 61dont want to keep both boats...costs etcany one seriously interested contact me @email address. ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List kellet for anchoring
have used for over 00years...makes all the difference in securing to bottom...use 36ft 1 half inch chain then 200 ft plus 5eights 3strand rode...open the kellet ,,put it on rope fasten sliding retreval line..then fasten weightsusually use 15 lbd lead ball sometimes two depending on forcasts,,,let out chain rode then 3strand part of anchor rode until kellet about 25 to 30 ft aft of chain or further depending on water depthuse 45lbd CQR with extra weight in tip..have had little drag problems in winds just short of 65 knts...has kept us safe for 48 plus years ..great lakes,us east coasts,st lawrence,pacific coasts...biggest problem after heavy blow anchor dug in bottom & hard to break free...tidewater 1968 redline 41 british columbia ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List redline41mk1
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Stus-List C 25 MARK 1
owned c 25 mk1 one of the first back in jan 1973 purchased from c sales in bronte oakville show room...raced it very succesfully on lake ontario that summer then in late sept left for south ...thru oswego canal erie canal hudson river to atlantic sailed coast to florida ...ft lauderdale...was approached by c sales at fla. dock ,,,offered by c much larger custom built bruckmann yacht., the c in house custom builder,..took the dealdelivered 25 to ryder fla yacht sales ..sad parting but beginning of a life time adventurethey had firm offer for my 25 from person who we raced against in his c designed 27ftmust say of 6 yachts i have sailed the mk1 25 was best performer ,best fun boat, one of best built,,,would have loved to keep both but could not...tried to buy it years later,.but owner not interested25 mk1 best boat i ever ownedbuilt by hinterholler mfg in n on lake the standard production line of c in feb 1973this model began production mid 1972 & sales slow until 1973..yacht designed by in house design with very close direction ..by both georges,cuthbertson... second owner of my 25 won more than it share of races over the years .jimmy c design redline 41 mk1 #1of two built.. currently.southern british columbia canada ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List c 39 davits
added to stern was not difficult as shape of stern small but relatively straight,most difficult was putting backing blocks between stern glass wallafter much trying to get backing blocks located , then mounted atkins & hoyle adjustable 3 piece davits on teak wood blocks between davit base and stern hull..did find dinghys over 8ft could get tied up when locking thru lock or pulling away from a dock...kept dinghy as high as possible .as far as i know still on boat , most important was to keep dinghy light weight and empty of water.lost track of location of boat...probably in caribean . ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List dinghy davits
pretty well use my dinghy similar to amenttow when in inland watersdavits when offshore or rough seasoriginal dinghy was boston whaler 9ft sailing ,rowing,motor...changed this few years ago to inflatable 9ft inflatable floor model ...miss solid whaler to row but less weight in stern makes a difference on long offshore trips, have always used low hp outboards mounted on stern taffrail with crain for raising my 1968 redline 41...also used atkins 3 piece davitsworked well & still use 30yrs later..the stern on redline not as flat as c 39 nor as large but it was lot easier to fit backing blocks... ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List aries zincs
by chance did you buy current used up zincs from different place than previously? have found different zinc makers zincs... deteriorate at different ratesfaster corroding are doing job best as far as protection.zincs made in china seem to give least protection and in some cases show little deterior change over as long as 3 years not much protection best seem to be those ,,made in canada or usa,, although cost 10 to 15 percent more ...if actually made in canada will be marked on zinc appears you get what you pay for . ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List propane heat
propane heat must be installed correctly and serviced and checked on a systematic basesall this is well and good.propane detectors are a must...oxygen monitors also now required by some insurance companiespropane tank on aft taff rail now being also turned down for insurance in case of offshore use.have been very close to 2 propane explosions over the yearsone case a factory installed system exploded killing two on board.another propane explosion gas powered yacht set on fire and then spread to boat yard and caused major damagelucky they were in cockpit only minor burns...first case investigation showed lack of maintenance ...not determined in second casepropane great fuel but must be installed correctly ...have used as cooking fuel over 40 years buy have kept stove and oven up to date ...used 3 stoves over 40 plus years last one installed 3 yrs ago...also carefully inspect whole system beginning and end of every season to check wear and detect any leakage...c redline 41 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List cabin head...hard fuel
have used dickenson hard fuel cabin heaters for last 25 plus years.burn well with brickets , wood scrapes , kennel coal, scrape garbage wrappings ,pickup wood kindling while hikeing as well as beach wood scrapes ...fireplace burns 4 to 5 hrs then more fuel needs to be added.with a thermal fan sitting on fireplace it will operate from heat of fireplace and circulate heat well.never not been able to find fuel to burn even in remote regionssecret to these heaters is to install draft controls in chimney flue...dickenson accessory also good charlie noblehave used fireplace up to 25 knts sailing with no back draft problems..heat is a dry heat very little fuel needs to be carried as easy to replentish dickenson hard fuel fireplace is mostly stainless with some brass so burning salt soaked wood doesnot cause rusting...not true of other makes...spent 5 winters frozen in ice living aboard in great lakes ... never failed or let us down...still use in british columbiac redline 41 vancouver island ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List boat transport
you have got it right..andrews transport is one of best in NAused them more than half dozen timesno problemstrailers specially designed to give vessel a safe smooth ride...shipped macinac city to oakville... midland to oakvilleannapolis to north carolina virginia to n carolina norfolk to oakville ... oakville to blaine washington... plus numerous other destinations with andrews & other shippers a reputable hauler is what its about if dont want any problems ...andrews over the years always top notch..highly recommendedtheir trailers allow boat to sit low as keel fits between trailer longitudenal stringers..thus 13 feet clearance below overpass bridges ... with your boat beam wont need escort vehicle ...big cost saving... just make sure nothing exceeds 13 ft from road...as for mast wrap it with plastic wrap then tape around wrap every 2 ft. have found taking spreaders of mast good ideaon the 41 we take off bow pulpit so boat height reduced...may not be needed in your case...as far as hull protection for shipping dont cover with anything only cause wear on boat finish also dont need any greasey of other hull protection not even waxandrews rigs do not throw up road dirt like some cheap haulers AS FOR GEO BAY GREAT CRUISING AREA christian island ,tobemore,lions bay ,owen sound, then north channel macinaw island great events etc. then minomee milwakee chicago, and many other areas in north lake michigan and onward to the soo, sault ste marie & lake superior. redwing minn houghton,thunder bay...have now used up your next 10 cruising yearshave a great cruising adventure redline41 1968 c design built bruckmann mfg..tidewater halifax ns currently cruising south vancouver island soundlooking fwd to getting back to chesapeake bay one day in next couple years ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List watski self tailing for winches
have used watski self tailers since 1974 & still using today having just replaced two recently..use on boats 923 lewmars all 4 of them barient 18sall 6 of them...to date have worked great easy wear on sheets no scuffing of outside covers of lines...after using for 41years i would say excellent.only NEGATIVE most sailors have never figured how to use theminstructions on packages poor. should say do not wrap around top area just wrap around main body of winch many give up not ever get it right ...still most popular in europe sailing area also allow for fine trimming sheets especially on 35 to 65 ft yachts DEFINTELY should be considered if you have the skill to fit them and then use themlots sailors dont have positive view of them ...we found IDEAL PRODUCT 1968 redline 41 c design ..by bruckmann mfg. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List autohelm 3000
my 3000 has operated perfectly since the 1980s ...still greatbelts will wear quickly if not perfectly lined up for 12 plus tons off boat is great ...only downwind in rolling seas does it need manual help maintaining coarse sail balance is key to successmine built in england...but very same as us built.only wish other electric items stood up as well. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List early 1970s cc gasoline engine systems
very very poor is best comment , yachts they new... but ignorant when it came to gasoline engines ..used mirex fuel tanks ..known to have capacity sender to cause a hole to wear thru bottom of tank serious gas fuel leaks sometimes onto water jacketed exhausts one new at the time redline 41 green hull exploded in hudson river being taken home by new owner ..total loss ...my 41 same problem mirex tank worn hole in bottom of tank ...fuel leaked onto exhaust pipe.fume detector indicated fumes shut down engine...all 11 crew aboard at time got buckets poured lake water in cockpit lockers ...to dilute gasopened two thru hulls fwd allowing lake water to fill area fwdstarted pumps to pump overboard coast guard stood by once reported gas slick notedin about 1 hour had all under control...very close near fatal accident.did not have cc repair but rather went to a custom metal shop and had new tanks builtcc to my knowledge never advised other owners ...so if you should have red or gray mirex fuel tank still, get rid of it replace...one of the few things they were very poor at...other yacht mfgs used mirex quite late into 80s ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List chainplates
jim watts probably good to check with.believe he had shark before he moved up to current ccif early built shark he will know what to look for in your yachthinterholler sharks in early days used many different metals for chainplateseven aluminum...let us know how it goes.. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List listchanges
dont change what works well.as far as face book, forget it , no way, absolutely never never,will be gone ...hate to see another good thing lost to so called progress...jimmy ...TIDEWATER ..,1968 redline 41...south vancouver island for winter.. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List documentation of yacht....
in this part of worldvancouver islandthe register of shipping is located in victoria b cis a federal agency..in canada...the registar is most helpful in victoria .have been helped by her replys etc. have been prompt accurate.hard to believe how well this agency operates compared to many cdn gov agencies... she can look after other ports as well..halifax etc cc REDLINE 41 m 1968vancouvrer island bc ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List autohelm 3000 wheel auto pilot
still using old autopoliot 3000 works fine...for what i need...anyone with spare parts for this model i would be interested talking to in regard to purchasing..works very well on my 1968 redline 41 ..as long as boat sail are trimmed balanced correctly. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List reinforcing hull cc 39
cc 39 could probably use some reinforcement if going to spend any amount of time off shore ...in bow area some 39s laid up rather thin to keep weight out of endsone former owner who i sailed carib with found made a difference when tightening up head stay...he then did reinforcement on stern the next year...it made difference in windward work in rough seas off bermuda...boat is fine as delivered from factorybutdepends on what you need the boat to do.. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List in regards to surfing mid size yachts
Cal 40 newport 41S designs PROBABLY TWO BEST SURFERS in 40ft yachts... designed just about change from CCA rule to IOR one most newport 41s can surf but newport 41S fastest best downwind performera very close hull design to redline 41s ...a CCA rule great sailornot pounding like many later ccsnewport 41 cuthbertson design...if i was looking @ 40 ft size would consider either for offshore workdont pound or throw a lot of spray in rough seas a pleasure to sail in the worst of conditions.. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List reinforcing hull cc 39
some cc designs such as viking 34s have needed reinforcement when used in rough waters backstay headstay...if going to europe would consider...not that difficult of a job.. On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:48 PM, jimmy kelly jamesdenniske...@gmail.com wrote: cc 39 could probably use some reinforcement if going to spend any amount of time off shore ...in bow area some 39s laid up rather thin to keep weight out of endsone former owner who i sailed carib with found made a difference when tightening up head stay...he then did reinforcement on stern the next year...it made difference in windward work in rough seas off bermuda...boat is fine as delivered from factorybutdepends on what you need the boat to do.. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List surfing cc INFERNO
one of most interesting cc s ,was cc Inferno A CUSTOM 54FT built late 60s for chicago sailor ,white hull radical fin ,fairly full stern ..great planer with 25kts wind and large following seas could get up go..was passed by her while crewing on twelve meter heritageINFERNO was moved to west coast where she was particularily in her element in san francisco area...largest yacht i every saw plane surf for extended periods of timestill quite a memorable experience... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List WINDWARD PASSAGE
although not a cc speaking of large yachts, a 70 plus ft wood yacht designed by Guy Gurney, WINDWARD PASSAGE could surf for extended periods given the right conditions.she SURFED past both RUNNINGTIDE a ss 63,, CC 66 PHANTOM DURING a race inSORC in florida...stern configuration right wave wind conditions seem to dictate although did not win because of handicap... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List atomic 4 fogging engine
marvel magic mystery oil will coat all internals plus keep cylinders from sticking...also coat exhaust interally...is old old product but still used by big rig drivers to add to diesel fuel to help with lubrication...many a4 owners have found quiets engine down substantiallyhave used on a4s for years in diesel car engines with good success ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List atomic 4 fogging engine
atomic 4 engine fogging ..should have mentioned run engine til warm then add mmm oil to engine cylinders On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, jimmy kelly jamesdenniske...@gmail.com wrote: marvel magic mystery oil will coat all internals plus keep cylinders from sticking...also coat exhaust interally...is old old product but still used by big rig drivers to add to diesel fuel to help with lubrication...many a4 owners have found quiets engine down substantiallyhave used on a4s for years in diesel car engines with good success ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc surfing hulls
rob is rightearlier cca influence on cnc design did produce hulls that under right conditions would surf...notably crusader redline35,redline41,cnc43 early models...redline requires 4to8 ftwaves20 plus knots of wind aftwent from niagara to oswego on lake ontario ..surfed all the way in one storm. estamated a sustained plus 40 knots...only other yacht doing same thing was a cal 40...they could stay on a wave betterlonger...great memorys..although at the time would rather have had a good harbour of refuge...wave pattern so difficult could not get in to rochester,colbourg,sodus ..coast guard advised ride it out to mexico bay as front should have passedCG could not even get out of rochester harbour as waves were breaking over both pierswas very exciting at time but we did wonder at time if would go end over end as waves got much shorter steep as got into shallower water approaching mexico bay.of coarse engine would not start as trying to motor to oswego...had to sail close hauled high winds to make oswego , this but one of a number of times got boat surfing ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List surfing hulls
most amazing was 24ft shark design..by g hinterholler a cnc mfg founding company. his early h30 also great surfer.shark reported back in 1970s passing cc 53 bonaventure in windy long distance race...shark was built for number years by cnc. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List delta marine sidney bc
have used Delta marine sidney..excellent service...had major rudder work plus new steering cable...rudder shaft bearings top bottom redone. new system to lubricate rudder shaft..bottom sanded repainted csc painthull buffed...a few other small itemsall done on time ...no surprises bill clearly detailed ..and very reasonable for what done..the current operators at delta marine excellent knowledgeable..cannot say the same for canoe cove bunch...who had 2 trys at rudder problems over period of 3 years, redos lasted a year, all i really got was large bills...as a matter of interest of these 2 marinas about 2to 3 miles apart canoe cove on the hard stayover winter night rate is 4 times thunderbird Delta marine twice during summer season night rateboth yards full service, washing,welding ,mast work, painting ,modern travel lifts,,delta also has mast crane.for mast work...people should look around before committing to a yardgetting ready to come out for hull insurance surveysand paint one coat csc antifouling...have no connection to yardbut like good service @ a fair price...some people feel yard is designed for power yachts ..not so...for those do it yourself still more reasonable than local do it your self yard with old travel lift type equipment...this info primarily for lower vancouver island sailors but looking around for a good yard to service or assist your now 25 or more years old cc yacht will help the ownership issues ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List blanchard rigging
is now delta marine sidney bc ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List email
my email is jamesdenniske...@gmail.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc 43 custom design by cuthbertsoncassian 1966
it sure is a cc ...one done for prominent yachtman of the timesailed on her 1970..was greatlater raced against her.on redline 41two great performance yachts...still competative in phrf racing..price appears very reasonable ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List rechrome
had my 4 ..custom 923 lewmars 4 barients rechromed worked well..had custom auto shop do work. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List cnc43 total redo
this price in the 200s is right in line with total redone cnc43i doubt you can get more yacht for the price.can get larger cncs for less but condition sets price not age...this one really looks goodsomeone will have a fine yacht ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List pricing of cnc boats
price of cnc 39 center cockpit...right on the mark...2 have sold west coast last two years for 42000 and 46000...this one has higher engine hours...but seems similar...anyone buying cncs by date of manufacture as to age..very foolish...condition is everything...and where built in some cases...age may apply some what to automobiles but mileage may count also...average cnc from mid 80s seems to need much more replaced sooner than cnc from 70s... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List dual ownership?
has any one tried shared ownership of sailboat? have owned operated my cnc 41 for 40 years..am finding not using enough..but do not wish to sell her...younger co owners as well as us in 70s...could work something out..to mutual benefitboat in good shape needs very little other than marinainsurance costs..would this be good way for younger couple to get into larger boatany ideas are welcome...boat currently west coast ... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List gasoline volatility
electric bilge pump not best way to get rid of gasoline spill but 5 miles from shore full crew hot muffler with fuel dripping on it ...only drown whole area possible..whale 25 portable pump pumping from lake was great help..enough water in boat to above floor boards auto pumps kept us from eventually sinkingbad experience... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List float switches
my experience many switches dont activate until to late with gasoline...only safe items human nose high quality gasoline fume detector...not detector that sniffs propane ,smoke,co2 but gas only.. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List gas exposions marine engines
one nearby boat gas fuel explosionyou realize the real dangerearly in my sailing ownerships...had experience leaking gas fuel dripping on water jacked muffler ..noticed when engine shutdown to begin distance race,,fuel smell,,it didnt take long for a crew of 11 to get pails..riggers buckets ,etc,and drown whole engine and hot muffler...auto pumps activated water fuel pumped overboard..left gas spill on water which SAR was happy to clean up...reason for event discovered later fuel tank float rubbed bottom of tank until wore hole in tank bottom...crew really had it together...one half did engine drowning..other half..hung over bow to encourage fwd pumps to engage ..REALLY LUCKY..FUME DETECTER ALSO DEFECTIVEhad manya4s after that with quality fail safe fume detecters...now a hign torque diesel user ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc 30 move to40plus ft
if you have the moneyget a good marine inspection..so you know your total costs ..dont worry about sailing itfurling head sail makes this possible...basic autopilot...some good used ap availablereliable engine...this particular model a single handlers dream if fitted out..start first with light winds to get feel of boat...this model sails well with just foresail...get dock easy to land.allow you to drift ...down on landing.always go slow just minimum amount of way when landing.many sailors some experts...fell this to large for beginners..but ..a number of lower experience sailors have begun with 48fters two older friends started each with cc39s when they were plus 60 yrs old ..the older cc hulls1975 earlier are easier to sail single handed as a rule ...under body design more conservativeexamples newport 41s,redline 41s,crusader40s,landfall 38,42s,early40s...dont follow so called experts ...who dont have larger boats but follow your feelingsa 40 plus footer is a whole different experience.happy sailing...where are you located? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc design 41ft yawl
certainly looks original...bruckmann built maybe hull layed up by belleville marine...lister not to well informed ...is fin keel ,spade rudder,is not a hull with core ..as first was redjacket ..this hull probably taken from modified crusader hull mold sometime in 1965 or66...this is a great sailing hull..excellent buy and well worth the price unless some unseen problem...which would be easily repaired..not redline 41 hull mould as they arrived late 1967 and first two hulls laid up and then mould used as swimming pool later 41s new mould.part of selling is ease of viewing ...suspect boat on mooring not easy to get at.however great boat someone missing out onsimilar bruckmann 40 41 hulls being sold for 55 to 7 dollars... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List furlers for head sails...
you tend to get what you pay for.for durability resale value plus after sales service two brand s stand out over time...furlex from sweden..and harken from usa.harken after service is A oneresale as addition to boat ads value...i would go harken with a reputable sailmakers sail... depending on your local...UK., maybe North, could cost a little more but with sun strip..foam luff furling,..and sailmaker coming to boat to measure ...all possible errors sailmakers problem...then fitting new sail..you will get the best...if sailmaker will not come to boat then for sure don,t use.lets out most far east lofts where have seen some really horrible work which owners were stuck with...and in many cases other local sail lofts refused to work on modification repair...as stated at beginning ..you tend to get what you pay for...good sailing ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List dorade box fastening
have 1968 redline 41 by bruckmann mfgremoved dorades..,back in early 80swere fastened from below as well as from inside boxes...also glassedwithin boxwere not designed to be removed..had to have yard ..cut them off...instead of new dorades went with aluminium 14 by 8 inch hatches...alternated which way openedone of best changes madeespecially when in hot climates30 yrs later..lewmar hatches still in great shapealso less teak to maintain...with way yard installed hatches ... length wise parallel to boat centerlineat least 2 can be open depending on direction of wave spray...have really worked wellalso look great...not what had in mind when project started...later replaced teak hatches with lewmar aluminium hatches..no more leaks when teak wood dried out in hot summer sun.good luck on your projecthave you decided on deck treatment? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List marvel magic mystery oil...
marvel magic mystery oil works great on cylinders atomic 4 ,used it on a4 s for years,... calms engine down til it almost purrsas for diesels you usually add it to fuel , most widely used by large tractor trailer haulers who add it to fuel large marine diesel mechanics use it when tuning engines if had older marine diesel would use it. knew of one user in virgin islands who used it for at least 25 yrs on his very then old volvo diesel...it worked for him...it seemed to help with overheating problems.product info stated to be added to diesel fuel ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List wire vs rod
diform wire appears to be way to go...are several other similar mfgs just as good but little more expensive...every one who has used no problemswindage wise is claimed to be better than rod of same strength...also nice to work with...no redo every ten years... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List rod vs wire keeps value higher?
have found a number of buyers who will not purchase rod boats or will deduct cost of replacement to wire from purchase pricethis is prevelent on great lakes also on west coastas to racing, wire can be just good as rod with right hydralics or mechanical devices...also we found with many race courses ..upwind starts...rest of legs off wind or beam reaches..fine tuning the rig best with wire..contrary to some experts upwind not where races won but at start and then downwind..having won more than our share of races in big boat series cca,ior 1,2,3 3a,phrf.as well as around the buoys in average size division 41cnc..this may give the experts a chance to comment... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List rod vs wire
rod weight vs wire weight is not significantwindage not any real difference ..real problem with rod ,needs ends reworked about every 10 years...back in late 70s ...cnc introduced rod on inshore design models, as a marketing strategy...after using it on custom larger offshore models..it did seem to enhance the product sales...as a mass production builder.at the time it also worked out as cost saving measure..number offshore racing yachts in 70s 80s changed to wire again when switching from hydralics adjusters to new mechanical adjusters..and better wire choices...rod was a good marketing choice ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List PROMOTING THIS FORUM
this forum helps to enhance cnc designsas such shouldnt we all endeavor to get more participantsif everyone recruited one more active user could ad lot of valuealso a suggestion every user should sign off. with..yacht model, yacht year mfg,could add name or harbour if wished ...any negatives on this idea ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List re.modern women magazine
this must be one of those magazines at check out counters...like old national enquirer only more full of crap...these sailors trying to fulfill a dream...didnt work this time but hope they get it together and try again...any magazine that would print this misinformed nonsence is junk..as for the author needs to be mentally examined..her comparisons and views are nuts...this is example of what is what is wrong with a lot of north americans myely mouthed uninformed know it alls...some of main line tv press hardly any better in regard to their reports,however she takes the cake ..i started sailing at nine years old mostly on my own, but boat supplied by grandfather was like a rainbow class sloop,old ,cotton sails,was wooden hull,some serious leaks at first of season..but sailing by myself in adirondacs in nystate to me was a great offshore adventure...my children had some advantage as 5.8 yr olds we had modern knarr class 31ft sloop that spent most summers aboard cruising racing lower great lakes...they handled it themselves as far as i know,few real problems...things seem to work out for kids...are today well balanced sucessful adults ...60 plus years later i have survived ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc designed crusader
this is NOT balsa cored hullonly small deck areas have core...much of deck reinforcer with solid fir.the shrouds are aircraft aluminum should last longer than rest of boat...as long as fastings inside bulkhead which are wood still intact...the hull built by belleville marine ,,one of founding companies of cc mfg specialized in centerboard boats example corvettes,belle marine made a lot of aircraft industry aluminium parts especially wings i believe...ALSO RUDDER frame rudder post probably aircraft aluminum...even battery wire was welders wire centerboard was bronze casting...as is usually the case these features did not continue to be used because of cost in mid 1970s...except boat s from custom shop..stainless steel was the cheaper replacement in many cases... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc cored hulls
most cc cored hulls are no problem unless owners or yards dont instal thru hulls correctly or make impact repairs taking out core fitting solid glass replacement..no water ingress to core...i would not be concern with cored hull otherwise ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List crusader
probably full of racoons?i dont get it... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc 34 versus crusader 40
four same money maybe the 34 for inshore coastal use. but for a real cruising boat offshore the crusader wins hands down...hard to tell real condition of 40 other than not gleaming at the dock...sails not mentioned if was considering real offshore trip to say argentina or europe the crusader will get you there safe sound and comfortably...will no more shortly after have live on the spot inspection...to determine real value... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List crusader 40
bunch of negative comments about a boat they know very little about...supposedly informed posters nothing but negativessome who have never seen this modeleven have opinions..can tell very little from pictures...get feeling maybe really dont want to sell her...have come across this before trying to obtain ...whitby 45 redline41sthis boat i have no vested interest in ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List a bargain.....maybe maybe not cc 40
depends on if a newport 41 or redline 41 or crusader model newports most of them had balsa core in hull ..might be delamanation below waterline, fixable but lot of work..latter two models no balsa core in hullif hull still true in shape ..not difficult to redo...great sailing hullsyou are buying for cost of engine winches.would want to be sure not been sunk in salt water ,makes lot more work if has been sunkam considering purchasing...if enough info can be obtained before flying down ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List gfi prevent dangerious shocks when using household, appliances on boat
gfi needs to be on only first outlet on alternating current line...probably have more than one line ...an extra gfi in the line is good way to keep spare,,,with gfi more you pay perhaps more you get ..however..all must meet american standards which require d to be employed in damp areas...not to be negative get ones built in usa or germany where mfg. standards tend to be more regulated than possible cheaper 3rd world countrieshave had gfi on all 6 independent lines...while at it consider home also bathroom , kitchen ,workshop.mine have kicked off a few times over the past years . easy reset if nothing wrong on line ..usually winter dampness if living aboard with electric heaters... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List terrible names for a boat
name reflects somewhat on owner...3 worst i have seen all on lake ontario north shore...missed three periods,a gynecologist...,after birth..,another gyne...yuck fou a t bird in toronto area...tells you about someones poor taste... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List kirby25 vs cnc37
try hinterholler shark vs cnc custom 53 bonadventure..shark trounced us in real heavy high winds ..went on to win ,classic race, shark just got up on plain left us ..also shark in heavy weather left 3 cnc redlines 41s in another fall race...kirbys also passed us on a few races with heavy winds...not sure they were having fun or holding on for survival...shows every boat has its day... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List owners database
one consideration could be marketing length ex. cnc30 ..along with overall length...many cnc models like 27s varied from 26.8ft to27 .9ft i believe in case of cnc 38s were less than 38ft..redline 41was 41ft .7 on deck only fit in 43 ft slip because of reverse transom that does not include bowpulpit overhang...newport 41s are 40ft.just a thought... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List owners data base
sail number could be helpful hull color ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List depth sounders life spans
it appears much of the current manufactured units have a lifespan some times only a few yearswe are still using 1970s brooks gatehouse depth sounders ..work excellently...only in last year needed reader head serviced...done by bg dealer 65 dollars...have two units both operating well...part of this they are sealed units which you open before each season make sure they are not damp pink is damp blue is dry...if need to dry..heat in low temp oven until sensor is blue.very low teck.mentioned them to two different cruisers both have searched used marine stores are very satisfied with results over last 7 to 10 years of cruisingunit operates on 4 AAA batteries for little more than yearmany european yachts still using original bg 1960 units successfully...costs used 100 to 150 for complete units..all wiring, brass thru hull fitting, with repeater readout in cockpit plus nav station unit readout. seems like good value to us...these units are bg built in england...not after being... taken over ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List moor electronics
moor electronics its predessor in buffalo ny make great equipment...installed late 70s their wind speed equipment...on my then boat ..talked to current owner. a while ago he indicates still all operating great...also afterservice top notchas to interface ...why ..when unit down all could be down? more complicated ,more cost, although ray marine interesting mfger...costly...are a number of other choices just as good... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List CRUISING TIME RAINY DAYS
have never heard it said better as skipper of rainy days.69 or 70 years old is but a numbereach of us ages differentlycomments about preparations,the intercoastal waterway, bahamas, really are very much to the pointwe left great jobs in mid 70s first cruise down waterway spent near a year away returned..both got great jobs again with new employers , stayed couple years purchased larger cnc.down waterway cruised year...returned..2years..employed best jobs..then left again for then to west coastcruised 9 years until finally determined time to establish a shore base.for collection of items acquired over years,,absolutelly no regrets , would love to do all again, even the really dangerous moments,interesting side note,very few potential employers cared about being away for periods of timeonly interested could you do the job they wanted done, money,was always obtained when really needed...go ,go,now...take a chance, it all seems to work out..keep going rainy days..we are older than you .. still sailing now in colder waters...miss east coast seafood warmer waters va.nc sc ga fla... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List ontario38
sailed on ont38 on launch day back in 80s...nice boat well built...owners sailed n atlantic down to mediterrean...and then to caribean ..lost track after that but sailmaking company sent them new main to argentina a few years later...they reported boat holding up well with no major problems ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List CC 41...offshore cnc models
the rob ball designed 41 is great boat looks...interior but not a great offshore cruiser...not much fun in bigger offshore chop...,will take it but crew will be very uncomfortable.if i were beginning long offshore cruising destinations ..would look for cnc designed newport 41s ...whitby 45 ..cnc design...redline 41...these boats all cuthbertson inspired designs...not built for any particular racing rulebut rather fast ,close winded...good load carrying ability..all raced successfully ..under cca rule,ior 1,ior 23a...but also hulls dont pound in rough seas..very dry upwind sailing...as to things like ventilation etc various owners have used AH offshore opening ports...low diesel engine required especially if repowered by newer high torque engines...giving long range motor cruising...but you will probably actually sail these models more than motorthese boats come up for sale ..just keep looking... or go simple routelandfall 38...little slower under sail ..not as close winded but good offshore boats...a number of these models can be flatbed road shipped without escorts or over height restrictionsmy experience would rate land fall 38 42s over ontario 38 a cnc cuthbert design...although it appeared to sail well when new... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List when to go cruising
go as young as able to afford a reasonable boat...time flys...first cruiser offshore was cnc 25 modified in 74 ...then cnc redline 41 ...have never regreted a moment ...now live ashore in condo but still sail boat regularily...have watched others prepare,,,others dream,,,others plan,,,but never get to really go anywhere what they dreamed.a few friends over the years did europe ..med..others circumnavigate globe finally settle in new zealand..another australiabut 20 to 1 actually ever left ...because of jobs kids,going poor preparing to go...fancy water makers,electronics things not really needed..go soon get a cnc design.cuthbertson older if possible be off also every dollar spent on getting ready is out of cruising kitty... determines how long can be free...good luck ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List atomic 4 history
ken heatons info on atomic 4 is great reading thanks for info..went thru 4 of these great engines ..on my redline 41 ..6 nm later..now using universal25xl diesel which has more torque...the atomic 4 s were real workhorses..compact ,light weight...and very easy to work on...would recommend their use still today for day or long range cruisers...almost 40 years of use were great engines ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List otter problems
had this problem of otters and their favourite poop spots when docked in victoria harbour.a number of us on dock go together first pressure washed dock areas under neath dock as best as couldthen on dry days soaked top of dock with javex let dry then next few days repeated 4 times then put moth balls..on lower part of dock...a couple repeat applications over 2 months the otters found another area they preferred...it seemed the javex might have bothered feet.. smell of mothballs not very appealingonly caution dont let bare feet or skin touch dock...wears away after a week or so ...another group of sailors used CLR BUT QUITE TOXIC...good luck... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List lets get back to items of interest
lets get back to items of interest like CC yachts not a lot of chat about vaguely related items like homemade autopilotsotherwise will be even fewer participatesa forum is only as good as the number of people who are involvednot 4or five people talking about saskatoon drinking 30 years agonot to pick on anyone but he is one of the least offenders.AND jim actually contributes much good interesting information cannot say list is worth reading last while..LETS GET BACK TO YACHTING AND CC CRAFT...JUST ONE OPINION do not have a lot to say as martin deyoung cc 43 seattle usually replys first nearly always on the mark...just my opinion...he martin is one larger boat owner where why are the rest?...not particpating ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List redundant items
it has been mentioned use of portable transistor radio to find bermuda from mainland coast USAback in late 70s ..80s many skippers going to windward islands went by way of bermuda...turned right near bermuda ..sailed directly south about 900 nm then sse to islands...we had bg rdf and sailed the null to bermuda more than a few times on deliveries...simple always reliable..especially if had couple cheap transistor radios...really quite simple.never used autopilots to much electric draw ...loran c was degraded as travelled southnice to have gps today to back up your estimated position...we actually sailed to bermuda...where today seem to meet a lot of sailboats motoring to destinations..just a note that really , alot has not changed when sailing long distance atlantic offshore just more gadgets from west marine to buy ...bigger fuel tanks..etc ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc.
have not heard of oven storage before..would like to hear more...i was hit by lightning a number years a go ...only electrics not totally fried was spare bg rdf...was not trailing ground from shrouds as wasis still a habit thanks. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List the past still handy...electronics
as martin de young says when offshore, older dated gear still handy ..still have BG rdf...with hand bering compass,still usable to home in on high wattage radio stations when required...have two units if anyone wants one for museum collection.the heath kit rdf..really takes you back before vhf .had double sideband radio for communication...were interesting times...vhf,loran a ,,loran c ..gps all great to have,.makes navigation really simple. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List cabin heaters fumes
fume detectors are amust and should be installed in relation what fumes are seeking protection from propane near lower levels ...carbon monoxide higher as these fumes rise while propane dropswith carbon detectors one for each living area...have unfortunately seen loss of a family of 4 humans plus dog when closed down below in bad weather helmsman on deck trying to keep motoring to home port...cannot see hear or smell fumes just get sleepy ...some insurance company inspections now require proper carbon ...propane monitors. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List great weather for canada
sailing yesterday in sidney bay wind never reached over 16kts temp dropped about 330 in afternoon..we kept on move running with the wind..little cooler upwind, but all in all great day for sidney bc...sailing in january ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List how about a perfect sailing day in canada
today january 3rd 2014unbelieveable...sidney bc canada on south vancouver island...sunny no clouds ,wind nw 11 kts,temperature, 50 plus degrees,half dozen sailboats sailing sidney bay,earlier were even more,we have been at boat for 3 to 4 hrs warm,pleasant early september like day...dock neighbour doing touch up on his 46ft wood ketch,really amazing.considering weather much of na.in snow..nice to be lacking rain which is not usual..,weather is more like s. california today...any how best wishes for new year.. TIDEWATER cc designed redline 41 mk1 #1. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List ant victory?
dont count on ant eradication in cold weather...a few seem to find warm hibernation places had that problem in ontario many years ago..answer put out some ant traps as well as some moth balls to keep them out of cushions and get them to be on move seeking food your ant traps this seems to have worked for me asailor who told me...cc 41 vancouver island ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List great weather vancouver island resettlement
most easterners that really consider resettlement to island dont do it..between lack of equal employment renumeration as per ontario. ..majority of successful resettlement are retirement type sailors or skiers..the few others that arrive go to interior...so i suggest dont have a lot of easterners to worry about and any how need some to buy our boats when we retire or move up to larger yachts...contrary to popular belief just as many come from USA... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List single handed docking
agree with martin deyoung cc 43 calipso put fender out on both sides...we use 4 large fenders on each side plus light center cleat brest line...our dock at times heavy eratic cross currents plus often or not, beam winds...work well over last 20yrs ..NEVER ever give bow line to anyone... will pull your bow into dock.you will have little control...we keep coiled and last line to be cleated by us...biggest problem on occasion side drift to boat sharing well ..seldom happens when prepared ...keep our cleanest fenders to face boat sharing well...have had to sail in to slip a number of times in past ..various engine problems..most often after long distance overnight races...on these occasion s usually had crew of ...9 to 11 but.. had to have well rehearsed instructions ...repeated back to cockpit captain until those needed had totally clear...single handed docking is a matter of a plan..what ever situation ...has worked well for many years on a heavy 42 ft raceboat...now mostly cruising. if decide to back into facilitate unloading lot of gear etc.always put out extra.two large stern fenders..which had to be taken from storage below inflatedwe learned a lot of this many years ago.from r ryders cc50 .and van meters.. runningtide a ss 63 raceboats..if looking for ideas check out larger big boats..not just similar size ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List peter fell sail damage
stay with your local lofts...then you get after service like proper fitting,...advice re adjustments...minor repairs at reasonable charge..winter storage if needed...test sails..etc...if buying new sail get direct written quote by the sailmaker..himself...the price for normal cut dacron sail will vary little.from one loft to another...only real variables are after service...when decide to purchase get loft to come to boat take measurementsany mistakes are theirs not yours..when they fit the new sail to boat.about time for boat show pricing 20 percent discounts can sometimes be obtained...get quote now then get requote for sailboat show pricing...i saved 1250 dollars on number one genoa this way 2 yrs ago.with sails you get what you pay for.offshore lee sails, r tasker etc ...no real service... if poor fit your on your ownhave seen serious problems with these types of companies...they build from info you send them ...lot of info needed for good forming sail ..like cut backs on boom ,head boards..leech linesreefing points ..furling..cut backsas to insurance try skippers plan can get a quote on line...their insurance is new for old on sails.. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List sail damage wind storm
dont know who insured with but new ffor old no depreciation insurance available...good value...who are you insured with? what sail loft reported probably correct as to repairbut can sail be cut down still be used with good shape?who did you get opininion from...sounds like answer of a sales person not experienced sailmaker... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List just to say hello
just back from out on boat ..little cool, light breeze...great place to spend winter season...temperature high 40s some sun seasons greetings to all...look fwd to sailing 2014winter races start in a couple of weeks...CC designed redline41 southern vancouver island bc canada ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc 39 windquest rudder
it looks like a bruckmann interior for surehinterholler niagara production plant..produced some hulls similar rudder configerations whicn were sold as landfall 39 42sa few were finished at bruckmanns have you checked rudder grease fittings..as to leaks you may find hard to distinguish as will be corroded out ..just a rough blobthese fittings were brass but some appeared to have mixed metal interiors...easy to replace..just need someone who can fit to get at thembest to do out of water if possible ..replacing with new fitting with long grease hose attached makes life lot easier to service ...once greased with grease gun under pressure wont leak any apparent looseness in rudder stock..probably cured... also for your interest C C at that time built many one offs..of which a 39 40 had your configeration..2 off which were for SORC race circuit...have pictures somewhere but cannot locate at momentlet me know if this fixes the problem..jimmy ,,custom redline41 vancouver island bc... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc39 windquest
is windquest her original name was she custom built at bruckmanns in oakville ontario...?...is she standard deck configeration..can check this by looking up on sailboat data .com.afew 39s were built with different decks ,rudders..even a couple with outboard rudderslet us know.as may have some info. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List lyn larry pardy electrical
was docked next to them in victoria bc a few years agonever saw them actually pluged in to shore power..they are truly self sufficient appeared most happy without all electrical junk on boats today..do we really need refrigeration pressure hot water radar ...hand held gps is nice as well as vhfall the rest rea.lly adds little but cost maintenance.just an opinion...there seems to be few of us on this site...that find less is more..real sailing long distance voyaging is what it is about ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List old sails suck comments uk ulmer halsey sailmakers
if your former ukhalsey loft gave you good service...i would not be concerned about the new owners...i have dealt with charlie ulmer in nyc in past..uk in toronto ont ,uk in sidney bc,uk halsey sidney bc plusnew owners in past year in sidney loft...service still excellent...new owners in sidney are building a large new loft with docks to drop off pickup sails.will be able to design construct new sails all in house for vancouver island alsopacific northwest,anacortes wash.areas south to oregon big investment for themunderstand other ulmer lofts are doing the same.in na..their design capacity experience with advanced materials is excellent. not associated with ulmer in any way just very happy 30 plus year customer..ulmer network has been great ..cant say same for north or sobstedthere degree of service has varied from loft to loft have purchased sails for my cc 39..cc designed redline 41...cc 25 the ulmer lofts always got it right or corrected anything needed ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List crack keel meets hull
not leaking ...then is only a question of faring with marine filler then sealing with good underwater sealer...my cc 39 developed this after running aground on intercoastal waterway.once fixed lasted for 10 yearsnot a lot of problems to happen on this year model of cc39...great boat.. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List aluminium shrouds bolts
the cc custom plant used aircraft aluminium for shrouds ,related bolts,mast steps,rudder mainframes,rudder posts,stem fittings,aft spinnaker attachment points,goosenecks,spinnaker pole ends,plus many other items...have stood the test of timefrom early 60s as bruckmann mfg. to cccustom back to bruckmann 2013my 42...absolutely no problems after 46years hard racing long distance cruisingthe type of aluminum employed is the key.a note ..morch marine belleville ontario was aircraft parts supplier as well as one of original cc founding companies...AMAZING GRACE ...PHANTOM all five of them..INFERNO 54..CONDOR 41 TIDEWATER 41 both custom redline s all have aluminum employed everwhere possible...anyone who believes aluminum is poor material should look further especially to aircraft industry..the difference between boats same hull model built niagara on lake .. bruickmann varied as much as 1600 lbsboth have stood up equally well..so much for facts ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List cc 34r
just a question of interest...is you 34r with a outboard rudder mounted on transom?believe 5 were built ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List fish hooks
if you have fish hooks in halyards it usually a sign to replace halyard or you screwed it up using itanyhow have used wire to rope halyards for over 40 years on custom cc 42...race cruise ..sail every week year round...long time in north carolina virginia carribean...now west coast bc...only replaced once when got new lighter weight mast..dont seem to have any problems...BUT EXIT BOXES must be lined up properly.. entrance to boxes done correctly..no line elongation..well maintained sail shapeonly adjustments gooseneck adjustment downhaul outhaul on main backstay sheets on headsail plus foot leach lineswe noticed a serious competitor # of years ago to spectra synthetic halyards on a cc 48 ..lasted less than a month of competative racingmost cc 48s,cc50s lot of 43s still racing...plus cc 54,s,61 all have gone back to wire to rope halyards plus local 38s in this area...large over lapping head sails put extreme loads on halyards..ONLY THING NEGATIVE WITH WIRE TO ROPE IS PRICE finding a well trained experienced splicermany of us use wilson yates located in newfoundland canada ...he was cc custom rigger plus many other mfgs.cs yachts ontario yachts..etc...have sailed plus 5 miles plus not counting motoringand would never race or go offshore without wire to rope halyardsany long distance offshore the wire will produce few surprises... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List wire halyards
dwight is right on the mark re wire halyards sounds like his boat was set up correctly probably by cc custom rigger in oakville plant...many cc 35 mk1s out on west coast still using wire reel main halyard winches...especially the ones winning many races...i do not recommend them but certainly do the job...however wire still appears to do the job.best ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List in canada the purchaser is responcible to see taxes are paid
you can hope they will miss you as far as taxes go.not a chance.pay up quickly...before they seize the boatthen you have real problems trying to get it back..before goes to highest bidder plus tax...this is revenue canada ..not accountable to any authoritynot my friends but have seen what have done to others.warn you ..then suddenly sieze asset without any warning...@off to asset disposal dept.you then can owe the value of boat plus costs..plus have lost all claims to assetthey are mean gtreedy doing there jobs . suspect sometimes enjoy it...move quickly ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List bleeding fuel lines
the newer universal diesels 25 , 30 are self bleeding...very nice feature especially if you run fuel tank emptyonly problem with these engines is salt water pumps fail fairly quickly original sherwood pumps corrode...when replace go with oberdorfer about 300 dollars they stand up... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List rudder bearings
rudder bearings on older cc designs 1970s really quite simple not complicated.if my memory from the shop in oakville they were really simple with not much to breaksimply block the rudder to prevent it falling out..unhook steering cables ..pullout cross pins..or any other stops...if anythe rollers can be removed...rudder should be free.from down below with a helper ..rudder heavier than you thinkmove it back forth it will come lose...just carefully lower to ground.if in freezeing climate store in heated areaany water seepage will expand and crack coveringtwo most possible areas to check turning blocks for steeringcable bearings if edson easily replaced..if wire never replaced good idea.other area is where rollers run on bearings check for wear bearing dereline is simple ring easy to obtain and replace.if rudder shaft stainless not much more to doas long as bearing box still well fastened...if need be repair reglassif aluminum will need grease conduits cleaned out regreased.mine aluminum cleaned with new grease nipples . regreaseddepending on original owners needs aluminum option often selected because lighter in a wt sensive area...not a hard job as long as rudder will clear ground ...which on viking it should as long as original rudderif need more info i can check see if still have original diagrams... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List rudder bearings
early cc designs very seldom need rebored or built up unless bent or damaged in a accidentold steering cable turning block bearings worn are usual culprits.good luck on your repair... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List stuffing box
seldom do you hear about needing to replace a piece of stuffing boxthe only one around here took the old broken piece toured yacht yards especially yards where boats broken up after fires etc.will find piece you need.could be off sail or power boathave not changed much in 50 years.can buy for scrap value...as for dripless they work have a life of 10 to 15 years usually...also hard to fit because of limited space behind engine... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List best boat for inland waters washington state
early cc 38smk1 should be considered...but for single handed or short crew cc design newport 41 mk1 even better ...better load carrier ..more stable sailing plateform actually easier to sail...sail area is manage able with good furling systemas well as a lot of time dont even need mainnewport is taken from cc designed redline 41...which is even better to consider...all 3 of these models designed by cuthbetsongive smoother ride in choppy waters than most later designs... ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List rudder damage .leakage
probably dont need new rudder but skin taken off redoneactually not a lot of money compared to new rudder...the metal inside rudder could be stainless ..aircraft aluminium...or plain steel..most likely stainlessunless built as custom race modelwhen skinning rudder goto top of shaft ..this will help seal that area when reassembledin many cases old skin used as model for new skin...some times skin reused to keep shap e..rudder skinning rebuild is not big cost.takes one of those possible what could go wrong out of picture ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List suggestions to redo deck paint
have need to redo painted deck on my 1970s cc 41 repainted about 10 years ago with sikkens paint ..european company no longer in NA.paint peeling but sikens green undercoat still intact ..areas around hatchs etc gloss white international paintrest of area non skid by sikkens..a 40 year old still going strong holding its own racing under phrf cruising.although...much of original parts have been replaced...mast,engine,sails,hatches, rudderrdf for gps...double side band radio for vhf etcstill no hull problems etc...appears to be mostly cosmetic..little craising but repairable..suggestions? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List crossing the strait
it is a very small boat ..short waterlinenot a 35 or 40 ft yacht...plan carefullyfrom silva bay not a long trip ...with chart not difficult to bypass rocks..just outside silva bay..bring more hot drinks etc than normal its cold out there ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List georgia str.
you only need to get weather right...from van island not long trip but this time of year can get fog very quicklyalthough river current from fraser river is low as to false creek dont worry current is not much you can work along side of currentbest time of year is june...any reason to move now? storage always more reasonable vancvr island ...fog ferries shipping not a safe alternative...but have crossed in september.. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List gulf of georgia
one best plans is to head for pt roberts first day then next day go up coastespecially on smaller boat single handinglittle longer trip but gives arest stop also negates getting as much fog marina easy in out if have a chart have a good trip ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List andrews transport
an well established companyhighly recommend...to use anywhere in canada or usa. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
