Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Tim Goodyear via CnC-List]

I don't see why something that has been religiously soaked in vinegar would 
change by being soaked in more vinegar, so I'm not sure of the point of that 
experiment.  The (maybe softer, younger) solids in Mojito's headmate pump 
cylinder and joker valve allowed easier pumping and less back flow following 
this treatment.

Tim

> On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> there is an article about vinegar in the head on the compass marine site 
> where he experiments with the vinegar and finds no benefit for the practice.
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/vinegar_in_the_head
> 
> Danny
> 
>> On 6/1/2016 7:50 AM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote:
>> Good advice Tim. 
>> Also flush with lots of fresh water if the boat is going to sit for a while.
>>  
>> I would like to find a substitute part for the piston rod packing on the 
>> W.C. headmate.
>> Don't need the whole kit, and I can't find a source for the individual parts 
>> anymore.
>> Going to try backing up what is still left with some hardware store 
>> "graphite string" packing sold to fix faucet bonnet leaks, but if anyone has 
>> had good experience with something else, I would like to hear it.
>>  
>> Steve Thomas
>> C MKIII
>> Port Stanley, ON
>>  
>> C
>> Merritt Island, FL
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Tim Goodyear
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 06:51
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>> 
>> If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to 
>> try running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving it 
>> to soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar helps 
>> dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Its much easier having a composting toilet

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
Annapolis, MD (presently in Baltimore)

> On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I've coated the joker valve with Tefgel.  Inconclusive.  Now it's coated with 
> Superlube.  We'll see.
> 
> It's actually just about as easy to have two joker valves and swap them, 
> cleaning one for the next swap.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> there is an article about vinegar in the head on the compass marine site 
>> where he experiments with the vinegar and finds no benefit for the practice.
>> 
>> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/vinegar_in_the_head
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
>>> On 6/1/2016 7:50 AM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote:
>>> Good advice Tim. 
>>> Also flush with lots of fresh water if the boat is going to sit for a while.
>>>  
>>> I would like to find a substitute part for the piston rod packing on the 
>>> W.C. headmate.
>>> Don't need the whole kit, and I can't find a source for the individual 
>>> parts anymore.
>>> Going to try backing up what is still left with some hardware store 
>>> "graphite string" packing sold to fix faucet bonnet leaks, but if anyone 
>>> has had good experience with something else, I would like to hear it.
>>>  
>>> Steve Thomas
>>> C MKIII
>>> Port Stanley, ON
>>>  
>>> C
>>> Merritt Island, FL
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: Tim Goodyear
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 06:51
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>>> 
>>> If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to 
>>> try running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving 
>>> it to soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar 
>>> helps dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I've coated the joker valve with Tefgel.  Inconclusive.  Now it's coated
with Superlube.  We'll see.

It's actually just about as easy to have two joker valves and swap them,
cleaning one for the next swap.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> there is an article about vinegar in the head on the compass marine site
> where he experiments with the vinegar and finds no benefit for the practice.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/vinegar_in_the_head
>
> Danny
>
> On 6/1/2016 7:50 AM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Good advice Tim.
> Also flush with lots of fresh water if the boat is going to sit for a
> while.
>
> I would like to find a substitute part for the piston rod packing on the
> W.C. headmate.
> Don't need the whole kit, and I can't find a source for the individual
> parts anymore.
> Going to try backing up what is still left with some hardware
> store "graphite string" packing sold to fix faucet bonnet leaks, but if
> anyone has had good experience with something else, I would like to hear
> it.
>
> Steve Thomas
> C MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON
>
> C
> Merritt Island, FL
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *To:* <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2016 06:51
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>
> If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to
> try running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving
> it to soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar
> helps dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

there is an article about vinegar in the head on the compass marine site 
where he experiments with the vinegar and finds no benefit for the practice.


http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/vinegar_in_the_head

Danny


On 6/1/2016 7:50 AM, S Thomas via CnC-List wrote:

Good advice Tim.
Also flush with lots of fresh water if the boat is going to sit for a 
while.
I would like to find a substitute part for the piston rod packing on 
the W.C. headmate.
Don't need the whole kit, and I can't find a source for the individual 
parts anymore.
Going to try backing up what is still left with some hardware 
store "graphite string" packing sold to fix faucet bonnet leaks, but 
if anyone has had good experience with something else, I would like to 
hear it.

Steve Thomas
C MKIII
Port Stanley, ON
C
Merritt Island, FL

- Original Message -
*From:* Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Cc:* Tim Goodyear <mailto:timg...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2016 06:51
    *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may
want to try running some household (white) vinegar through the
system and leaving it to soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up
on the valves and vinegar helps dissolve it.  It is a cheap and
very much hands-off first option.

Tim




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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Tim Goodyear via CnC-List]

In my experience, mineral oil floats at the top of the holding tank and stops 
aeration - very smelly...

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was surprised to learn that Muriatic acid is actually preferred to vinigar 
> as a treatment for the internal buildup in the toilet.  So long as there are 
> no exposed metal parts it works great.  The stuff fizzes up...and when it 
> stops it is either all used up or done.
> 
> Then a follow up with mineral oil to lube the inside does the trick.
> 
> Tom B
> 
> Tom Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> 1990 C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
> 
> 
> At 11:43 AM 6/1/2016, you wrote:
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List >  > wrote:
>> 
>> If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to 
>> try running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving it 
>> to soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar helps 
>> dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On May 31, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>>  > wrote:
>> 
>> I just bought the rebuild kit for $72 at Jamestown Distributors (USD) but it 
>> seems the Thetford Headmate pump assembly is currently back ordered from 
>> those that are listing it on their websites.
>> 
>> I get a slight amount of back flow if the head is pumped empty which I 
>> suspect is the joker valve either worn or not seating properly. Also, the 
>> handle doesn?t want to stay in the down position in either the empty or 
>> flush position, which makes me believe there is back pressure even when the 
>> intake side is shut.
>> 
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> 
>> S/V Half Magic
>> 
>> 1983 LF 35
>> 
>> Padanaram, MA
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Around here, if you are pumping your salad overboard, you would be in trouble. 
So, we just pump it into the tank, then shake and stir…… I will have to look 
and see what the ingredients are for the Head Lube.

 

Gary

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 2:01 PM
To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

 

Check with marine life experts in your area to see if the barnacles prefer 
arugula or Romaine.  The occasional cucumber slice might also appeal to them.

Dennis C.

 

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

So between the olive oil and vinegar, I should basically just pour salad 
dressing down the pot, pump a few times and hope it works..

Any need for other seasoning or a sprig of parsley?

Chuck Gilchrest

Half Magic

1983 LF 35

Padanaram,MA

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 1, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

We keep a small bottle of olive oil on Touche' to cook with.  Olive oil can go 
rancid.  Every spring we buy a new bottle and the old bottle goes for lubing 
the head.

Dennis C.

 

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, IRVIN via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Once you get it working a periodic flush with vegetable oil will keep it lubed.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 1, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to try 
running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving it to 
soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar helps 
dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.

 

Tim

 


On May 31, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I just bought the rebuild kit for $72 at Jamestown Distributors (USD) but it 
seems the Thetford Headmate pump assembly is currently back ordered from those 
that are listing it on their websites.

I get a slight amount of back flow if the head is pumped empty which I suspect 
is the joker valve either worn or not seating properly. Also, the handle 
doesn’t want to stay in the down position in either the empty or flush 
position, which makes me believe there is back pressure even when the intake 
side is shut.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 LF 35

Padanaram, MA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 6:50 PM
To: Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com <mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

 

And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head and I 
paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was a Jabsco, 
so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a bonus.

 

I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.

 

Marek

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: May 31, 2016 16:35
To: CnClist <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: Dennis C. <mailto:capt...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

 

You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate 1460-C 
then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.

There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.  Your old 
pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and easier than 
installing a rebuild kit.  

Dennis C.

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my C 
29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is leaking 
fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there is 
significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve is 
shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:

 

https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19

 

The following kit looks like it's the right one.

 

 
<http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301>
 
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301

 

Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the right 
kit?

 

Thanks,

 

Gene Fo

Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

Definitely oregano.Ron


  From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net>
 Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 12:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
   
So between the olive oil and vinegar, I should basically just pour salad 
dressing down the pot, pump a few times and hope it works..Any need for other 
seasoning or a sprig of parsley?Chuck GilchrestHalf Magic1983 LF 35Padanaram,MA

Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 1, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:


We keep a small bottle of olive oil on Touche' to cook with.  Olive oil can go 
rancid.  Every spring we buy a new bottle and the old bottle goes for lubing 
the head.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, IRVIN via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Once you get it working a periodic flush with vegetable oil will keep it lubed.

Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 1, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:


If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to try 
running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving it to 
soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar helps 
dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.
Tim

On May 31, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


I just bought the rebuild kit for $72 at Jamestown Distributors (USD) but it 
seems the Thetford Headmate pump assembly is currently back ordered from those 
that are listing it on their websites.I get a slight amount of back flow if the 
head is pumped empty which I suspect is the joker valve either worn or not 
seating properly. Also, the handle doesn’t want to stay in the down position in 
either the empty or flush position, which makes me believe there is back 
pressure even when the intake side is shut.Chuck GilchrestS/V Half Magic1983 LF 
35Padanaram, MAFrom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf 
Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 6:50 PM
To: Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden And it is almost 
cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head and I paid $95 for the 
pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was a Jabsco, so not the same, 
but in the process I got a locking handle as a bonus. I made a mistake to 
remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain. Marek Sent from Mail for 
Windows 10 From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
Sent: May 31, 2016 16:35
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden You may want to consider 
a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate 1460-C then the pump assembly 
should be Part 015461.There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire 
pump assembly.  Your old pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually 
quicker and easier than installing a rebuild kit.  Dennis C. On Tue, May 31, 
2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my C 
29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is leaking 
fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there is 
significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve is 
shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head: 
https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19 The following kit looks like it's the 
right one. 
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
 Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the right 
kit? Thanks, Gene FodorC 29 Mark IIHawk
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Check with marine life experts in your area to see if the barnacles prefer
arugula or Romaine.  The occasional cucumber slice might also appeal to
them.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> So between the olive oil and vinegar, I should basically just pour salad
> dressing down the pot, pump a few times and hope it works..
> Any need for other seasoning or a sprig of parsley?
> Chuck Gilchrest
> Half Magic
> 1983 LF 35
> Padanaram,MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 1, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> We keep a small bottle of olive oil on Touche' to cook with.  Olive oil
> can go rancid.  Every spring we buy a new bottle and the old bottle goes
> for lubing the head.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, IRVIN via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Once you get it working a periodic flush with vegetable oil will keep it
>> lubed.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to
>> try running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving
>> it to soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar
>> helps dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On May 31, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just bought the rebuild kit for $72 at Jamestown Distributors (USD) but
>> it seems the Thetford Headmate pump assembly is currently back ordered from
>> those that are listing it on their websites.
>>
>> I get a slight amount of back flow if the head is pumped empty which I
>> suspect is the joker valve either worn or not seating properly. Also, the
>> handle doesn’t want to stay in the down position in either the empty or
>> flush position, which makes me believe there is back pressure even when the
>> intake side is shut.
>>
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>>
>> S/V Half Magic
>>
>> 1983 LF 35
>>
>> Padanaram, MA
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Marek Dziedzic via
>> CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 6:50 PM
>> *To:* Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>>
>>
>>
>> And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head
>> and I paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was
>> a Jabsco, so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a
>> bonus.
>>
>>
>>
>> I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> *From: *Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Sent: *May 31, 2016 16:35
>> *To: *CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Cc: *Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>>
>>
>>
>> You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate
>> 1460-C then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.
>>
>> There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.
>> Your old pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and
>> easier than installing a rebuild kit.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my
>> C 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is
>> leaking fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there
>> is significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve
>> is shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19
>>
>>
>>
>> The following kit looks like it's the right one.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
>&

Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

So between the olive oil and vinegar, I should basically just pour salad 
dressing down the pot, pump a few times and hope it works..
Any need for other seasoning or a sprig of parsley?
Chuck Gilchrest
Half Magic
1983 LF 35
Padanaram,MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> We keep a small bottle of olive oil on Touche' to cook with.  Olive oil can 
> go rancid.  Every spring we buy a new bottle and the old bottle goes for 
> lubing the head.
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, IRVIN via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Once you get it working a periodic flush with vegetable oil will keep it 
>> lubed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to 
>>> try running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving 
>>> it to soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar 
>>> helps dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 31, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I just bought the rebuild kit for $72 at Jamestown Distributors (USD) but 
>>>> it seems the Thetford Headmate pump assembly is currently back ordered 
>>>> from those that are listing it on their websites.
>>>> 
>>>> I get a slight amount of back flow if the head is pumped empty which I 
>>>> suspect is the joker valve either worn or not seating properly. Also, the 
>>>> handle doesn’t want to stay in the down position in either the empty or 
>>>> flush position, which makes me believe there is back pressure even when 
>>>> the intake side is shut.
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck Gilchrest
>>>> 
>>>> S/V Half Magic
>>>> 
>>>> 1983 LF 35
>>>> 
>>>> Padanaram, MA
>>>> 
>>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
>>>> Dziedzic via CnC-List
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 6:50 PM
>>>> To: Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>>> Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head 
>>>> and I paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was 
>>>> a Jabsco, so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a 
>>>> bonus.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Marek
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
>>>> Sent: May 31, 2016 16:35
>>>> To: CnClist
>>>> Cc: Dennis C.
>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate 
>>>> 1460-C then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.
>>>> 
>>>> There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.  
>>>> Your old pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and 
>>>> easier than installing a rebuild kit. 
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis C.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List 
>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my 
>>>> C 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is 
>>>> leaking fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there 
>>>> is significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve 
>>>> is shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> https://goo.

Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

We keep a small bottle of olive oil on Touche' to cook with.  Olive oil can
go rancid.  Every spring we buy a new bottle and the old bottle goes for
lubing the head.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, IRVIN via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Once you get it working a periodic flush with vegetable oil will keep it
> lubed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 1, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to
> try running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving
> it to soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar
> helps dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On May 31, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I just bought the rebuild kit for $72 at Jamestown Distributors (USD) but
> it seems the Thetford Headmate pump assembly is currently back ordered from
> those that are listing it on their websites.
>
> I get a slight amount of back flow if the head is pumped empty which I
> suspect is the joker valve either worn or not seating properly. Also, the
> handle doesn’t want to stay in the down position in either the empty or
> flush position, which makes me believe there is back pressure even when the
> intake side is shut.
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V Half Magic
>
> 1983 LF 35
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Marek Dziedzic via
> CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2016 6:50 PM
> *To:* Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>
>
>
> And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head
> and I paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was
> a Jabsco, so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a
> bonus.
>
>
>
> I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent: *May 31, 2016 16:35
> *To: *CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc: *Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com>
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>
>
>
> You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate
> 1460-C then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.
>
> There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.
> Your old pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and
> easier than installing a rebuild kit.
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my
> C 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is
> leaking fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there
> is significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve
> is shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
>
>
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19
>
>
>
> The following kit looks like it's the right one.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
>
>
>
> Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the
> right kit?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Gene Fodor
>
> C 29 Mark II
>
> Hawk
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[IRVIN via CnC-List]

Once you get it working a periodic flush with vegetable oil will keep it lubed.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to try 
> running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving it to 
> soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar helps 
> dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I just bought the rebuild kit for $72 at Jamestown Distributors (USD) but it 
>> seems the Thetford Headmate pump assembly is currently back ordered from 
>> those that are listing it on their websites.
>> I get a slight amount of back flow if the head is pumped empty which I 
>> suspect is the joker valve either worn or not seating properly. Also, the 
>> handle doesn’t want to stay in the down position in either the empty or 
>> flush position, which makes me believe there is back pressure even when the 
>> intake side is shut.
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> S/V Half Magic
>> 1983 LF 35
>> Padanaram, MA
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
>> Dziedzic via CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 6:50 PM
>> To: Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>>  
>> And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head and 
>> I paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was a 
>> Jabsco, so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a 
>> bonus.
>>  
>> I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.
>>  
>> Marek
>>  
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>  
>> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
>> Sent: May 31, 2016 16:35
>> To: CnClist
>> Cc: Dennis C.
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>>  
>> You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate 1460-C 
>> then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.
>> 
>> There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.  Your 
>> old pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and easier 
>> than installing a rebuild kit. 
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>>  
>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my 
>> C 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is 
>> leaking fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there 
>> is significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve 
>> is shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
>>  
>> https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19
>>  
>> The following kit looks like it's the right one.
>>  
>> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
>>  
>> Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the 
>> right kit?
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Gene Fodor
>> C 29 Mark II
>> Hawk
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Tim Goodyear via CnC-List]

If you're getting a little backflow from the joker valve, you may want to try 
running some household (white) vinegar through the system and leaving it to 
soak overnight.  Salt deposits build up on the valves and vinegar helps 
dissolve it.  It is a cheap and very much hands-off first option.

Tim


> On May 31, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> I just bought the rebuild kit for $72 at Jamestown Distributors (USD) but it 
> seems the Thetford Headmate pump assembly is currently back ordered from 
> those that are listing it on their websites.
> I get a slight amount of back flow if the head is pumped empty which I 
> suspect is the joker valve either worn or not seating properly. Also, the 
> handle doesn’t want to stay in the down position in either the empty or flush 
> position, which makes me believe there is back pressure even when the intake 
> side is shut.
> Chuck Gilchrest
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 LF 35
> Padanaram, MA
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
> Dziedzic via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 6:50 PM
> To: Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>  
> And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head and 
> I paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was a 
> Jabsco, so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a bonus.
>  
> I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.
>  
> Marek
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
> Sent: May 31, 2016 16:35
> To: CnClist
> Cc: Dennis C.
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
>  
> You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate 1460-C 
> then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.
> 
> There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.  Your 
> old pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and easier 
> than installing a rebuild kit. 
> 
> Dennis C.
>  
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my C 
> 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is leaking 
> fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there is 
> significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve is 
> shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
>  
> https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19
>  
> The following kit looks like it's the right one.
>  
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
>  
> Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the right 
> kit?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Gene Fodor
> C 29 Mark II
> Hawk
> 
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Richard gonesailing via CnC-List]

That's not a Wilcox it's a Jabsco

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> On May 31, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my C 
> 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is leaking 
> fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there is 
> significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve is 
> shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
> 
> https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19
> 
> The following kit looks like it's the right one.
> 
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
> 
> Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the right 
> kit?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gene Fodor
> C 29 Mark II
> Hawk
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

I just bought the rebuild kit for $72 at Jamestown Distributors (USD) but it 
seems the Thetford Headmate pump assembly is currently back ordered from those 
that are listing it on their websites.

I get a slight amount of back flow if the head is pumped empty which I suspect 
is the joker valve either worn or not seating properly. Also, the handle 
doesn’t want to stay in the down position in either the empty or flush 
position, which makes me believe there is back pressure even when the intake 
side is shut.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 LF 35

Padanaram, MA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 6:50 PM
To: Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

 

And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head and I 
paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was a Jabsco, 
so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a bonus.

 

I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.

 

Marek

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: May 31, 2016 16:35
To: CnClist <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: Dennis C. <mailto:capt...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

 

You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate 1460-C 
then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.

There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.  Your old 
pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and easier than 
installing a rebuild kit.  

Dennis C.

 

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my C 
29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is leaking 
fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there is 
significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve is 
shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:

 

https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19

 

The following kit looks like it's the right one.

 

 
<http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301>
 
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301

 

Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the right 
kit?

 

Thanks,

 

Gene Fodor

C 29 Mark II

Hawk


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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Sam Wheeler via CnC-List]

If it's just the joker valve, you don't need to buy a WC part (which seems
hard to find).  I picked up a Jabsco valve at West Marine because it's all
they had and it worked fine in my WC head.  Seems like all the 3" joker
valves are basically interchangeable.  Pretty easy job, too, and much
cleaner than I expected it to be.

I was only having back-flow issues though.  Not sure if it would solve your
water leak problems.

Sam

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:09 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Not only easier but less frustrating...I did a rebuild and damned thing
> still leaked.
>
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> --
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:19:58 -0230
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: dziedzi...@hotmail.com
>
>
> And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head
> and I paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was
> a Jabsco, so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a
> bonus.
>
>
>
> I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
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> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
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>
> You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate
> 1460-C then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.
>
> There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.
> Your old pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and
> easier than installing a rebuild kit.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my
> C 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is
> leaking fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there
> is significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve
> is shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19
>
> The following kit looks like it's the right one.
>
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
>
> Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the
> right kit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene Fodor
> C 29 Mark II
> Hawk
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

You know there is a much better way to deal with biological wastes on a boat!

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
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Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
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> On May 31, 2016, at 7:09 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Not only easier but less frustrating...I did a rebuild and damned thing still 
> leaked.
> 
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> 
> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:19:58 -0230
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: dziedzi...@hotmail.com
> 
> And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head and 
> I paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was a 
> Jabsco, so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a bonus.
> 
>  
> 
> I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.
> 
>  
> 
> Marek
> 
>  
> 
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> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
> Sent: May 31, 2016 16:35
> To: CnClist
> Cc: Dennis C.
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
> 
>  
> 
> You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate 1460-C 
> then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.
> 
> There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.  Your 
> old pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and easier 
> than installing a rebuild kit.  
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my C 
> 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is leaking 
> fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there is 
> significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve is 
> shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
> 
> https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19
> 
> The following kit looks like it's the right one.
> 
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
> 
> Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the right 
> kit?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gene Fodor
> C 29 Mark II
> Hawk
> 
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[David via CnC-List]

Not only easier but less frustrating...I did a rebuild and damned thing still 
leaked.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:19:58 -0230
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: dziedzi...@hotmail.com









And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head and I 
paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was a Jabsco, 
so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a bonus.
 
I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.
 
Marek
 
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From: Dennis C. via CnC-List

Sent: May 31, 2016 16:35

To: CnClist

Cc: Dennis C.

Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

 




You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate 1460-C 
then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.




There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.  Your old 
pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and easier than 
installing a rebuild kit. 





Dennis C.





On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my C 
29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is leaking 
fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there is 
significant
 backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve is shot. Here's 
some pictures of the pump and head:



https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19





The following kit looks like it's the right one.



http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301





Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the right 
kit?



Thanks,



Gene Fodor
C 29 Mark II
Hawk





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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

And it is almost cheaper, as well. I had just replaced a pump in my head and I 
paid $95 for the pump, and the repair kit was $85 (both CAD). It was a Jabsco, 
so not the same, but in the process I got a locking handle as a bonus.

I made a mistake to remove the waste hose off the old pump. What a pain.

Marek

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Sent: May 31, 2016 16:35
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Cc: Dennis C.<mailto:capt...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate
1460-C then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.

There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.  Your
old pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and easier
than installing a rebuild kit.

Dennis C.

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my
> C 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is
> leaking fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there
> is significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve
> is shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19
>
> The following kit looks like it's the right one.
>
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
>
> Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the
> right kit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene Fodor
> C 29 Mark II
> Hawk
>
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Re: Stus-List Toilet Repair Wilcox Crittenden

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

You may want to consider a new pump assembly.  If it's a WC Head Mate
1460-C then the pump assembly should be Part 015461.

There are a couple of benefits of replacing the entire pump assembly.  Your
old pump cylinder may be scored or worn.  It's usually quicker and easier
than installing a rebuild kit.

Dennis C.

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Eugene Fodor via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Trying to identify the correct toilet repair kit for my marine head on my
> C 29 Mark II 1984/85. It is clearly a Wilcox Crittenden. The pump is
> leaking fresh water out of the top when pumping and when heeled over there
> is significant backflow from the tank. :-( I'm pretty sure the joker valve
> is shot. Here's some pictures of the pump and head:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/VrEo64B65gto2wU19
>
> The following kit looks like it's the right one.
>
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/wilcox-crittenden--headmate-maintenance-kit--135301
>
> Has anyone else had experience repairing these? Does that look like the
> right kit?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene Fodor
> C 29 Mark II
> Hawk
>
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