Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-05 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
I like pulling the drum and inspecting/lubing the spindle bearings and
oiling the pawls annually.  For more complex winches with lower gear
assemblies, I think 3-5 years may be adequate.

It also depends on the winch material.  I would maintain alloy winches more
often than chrome/bronze or stainless winches.  Why?  The alloy is weaker
and more subject to wear if not properly lubricated.  In particular, the
pawl pockets can wallow out if not lubricated.  Once the pockets wallow
out, the winch can become unsafe or unusable.

The photo album has a lot of winch manuals online at:
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/indexes/winches.htm

One hint, if you have pairs of winches, service one entirely before
tackling the second one.  That way, you'll always have a model for
reassembly if you get lost.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:49 AM Michael Brown via CnC-List <
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> I have wondered if yearly maintenance was normal.
>
> In 2017 Windburn covered over 2,000 nm, almost all racing.
> We keep the heavy #1 up to at least 18 knots, sometimes with gusts to 22+.
> Overall there is a lot of use of the winches. When under heavy load the
> winches are easier to use with yearly maintenance. Not much different
> under lighter winds.
>
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
>
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-05 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List 

I have wondered if yearly maintenance was normal.


In 2017 Windburn covered over 2,000 nm, almost all racing.
We keep the heavy #1 up to at least 18 knots, sometimes with gusts to 22+.
Overall there is a lot of use of the winches. When under heavy load the
winches are easier to use with yearly maintenance. Not much different
under lighter winds.


Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1



Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 13:04:28 -0400 
From: dwight veinot  
 
You guys seem to have lube problems with you winches that i have not 
experienced. My winches have been cleaned and lubed only once in 15 years 
and they work and sound just fine. Last time about 5 years ago I used 
Harken white winch grease and Harken winch pawl oil. Still worin smooth and 
sounding good. Maybe i am just lucky all Barient winches 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-05 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Danny,

Very light on the grease is correct.  If you put on too much, the summer
heat will cause it to run out on the gelcoat.

It is much better to apply lightly and more often than to over-apply.  Once
your winches have been thoroughly cleaned and serviced, a minor lubrication
each spring should be all you need.

In my opinion, it is better to service your winches each spring with a
light lube than to let them go for years then do a "major" servicing.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 9:07 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
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>
> If you look at the lewmar demonstration video on the you tubes, the
> application of the new grease is really, really, really light.  I mean,
> I'm not sure if it is just for demonstration but, it appears he applies
> almost no grease.  he just touches the open tube of grease with a brush
> and then lightly applies that to the gears and such.  Are we supposed to
> apply such a small amount or should we be coating more evenly?
>
> Danny
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-05 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Danny,

If they are really gummed up, PB Blaster or a good degreaser will get off
the topsoil.  I had to soak several in a bucket of ZEP degreaser for hours.

Joel

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:07 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
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> I'm about to do my winches as well.  I've got 2 old lewmar wavegrip 55s
> and 3 43s.  I also have newer 44 that is electric.  I took the 2 55s
> apart and brought them home as you can take the whole winch off the
> base.  The 43s don't allow for that but I did pull one apart.  They
> appear to have been neglected for some time.  They are gummed up and
> really dirty.  I've been watching videos and got a demonstration at the
> Annapolis boat show on how to tear one down and reassemble it.  As I
> recall the lewmar guy said 3in1 oil is great for the pauls and was not
> that particular about the grease.  I happen to have some lewmar winch
> grease.  So, I'll use that.
>
> If you look at the lewmar demonstration video on the you tubes, the
> application of the new grease is really, really, really light.  I mean,
> I'm not sure if it is just for demonstration but, it appears he applies
> almost no grease.  he just touches the open tube of grease with a brush
> and then lightly applies that to the gears and such.  Are we supposed to
> apply such a small amount or should we be coating more evenly?
>
> Danny
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-05 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
I'm about to do my winches as well.  I've got 2 old lewmar wavegrip 55s 
and 3 43s.  I also have newer 44 that is electric.  I took the 2 55s 
apart and brought them home as you can take the whole winch off the 
base.  The 43s don't allow for that but I did pull one apart.  They 
appear to have been neglected for some time.  They are gummed up and 
really dirty.  I've been watching videos and got a demonstration at the 
Annapolis boat show on how to tear one down and reassemble it.  As I 
recall the lewmar guy said 3in1 oil is great for the pauls and was not 
that particular about the grease.  I happen to have some lewmar winch 
grease.  So, I'll use that.


If you look at the lewmar demonstration video on the you tubes, the 
application of the new grease is really, really, really light.  I mean, 
I'm not sure if it is just for demonstration but, it appears he applies 
almost no grease.  he just touches the open tube of grease with a brush 
and then lightly applies that to the gears and such.  Are we supposed to 
apply such a small amount or should we be coating more evenly?


Danny



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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
I’ll try them! Thank you Marek!C


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 6:21 PM, Chris Graham  wrote:

Thanks Dennis!!! I did the final rinse with simple green. The brakekleen worked 
about as well as the Naptha I used on the other one! Took me half as long to 
break it down and clean it all. 


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Wander the piers during the summer.  When you see a boat with grease oozing out 
of a winch, ask the owner what he used.  Don't buy it.
For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of 
winches.  I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff, mineral 
spirits followed by Simple Green.  I lubed them with Lewmar grease and oil.  
Never had any complaints.
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
Try The Ottawa Chandlery or Marine Outfitters (Kingston). They both sell the 
kits and I think have better prices.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

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Thanks Dennis!!!
I did the final rinse with simple green. The brakekleen worked about as well as 
the Naptha I used on the other one! Took me half as long to break it down and 
clean it all.


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Wander the piers during the summer.  When you see a boat with grease oozing out 
of a winch, ask the owner what he used.  Don't buy it.

For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of 
winches.  I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff, mineral 
spirits followed by Simple Green.  I lubed them with Lewmar grease and oil.  
Never had any complaints.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Looks like the binnacle site crashed :/


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 6:21 PM, Chris Graham  wrote:

Thanks Dennis!!! I did the final rinse with simple green. The brakekleen worked 
about as well as the Naptha I used on the other one! Took me half as long to 
break it down and clean it all. 


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 wrote:

Wander the piers during the summer.  When you see a boat with grease oozing out 
of a winch, ask the owner what he used.  Don't buy it.
For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of 
winches.  I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff, mineral 
spirits followed by Simple Green.  I lubed them with Lewmar grease and oil.  
Never had any complaints.
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2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Thanks Dennis!!! I did the final rinse with simple green. The brakekleen worked 
about as well as the Naptha I used on the other one! Took me half as long to 
break it down and clean it all. 


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Wander the piers during the summer.  When you see a boat with grease oozing out 
of a winch, ask the owner what he used.  Don't buy it.
For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of 
winches.  I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff, mineral 
spirits followed by Simple Green.  I lubed them with Lewmar grease and oil.  
Never had any complaints.
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
I’ll look for some 


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:33 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
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I think I got some at Home Depot.  I use it for turnbuckles. From: Chris Graham 
via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:00 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease Wow Josh, that’s 
ridiculous! I’ve never heard of green Grease. Where can you find it?


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   I found an old PS edition from when I still had my subscription.  I'll try 
to get it digitized and  uploaded soon.  In the mean time hear are the standout 
results.    13 greases tested.   Between the official winch greases, Andersen, 
Harken, and Lewmar.  Lewmar was the given the "best choice" star.    Using 
Lewmar as the reference for all of the other "budget" greases.  Green Grease 
was found to be better in both wash of corrosion protection and static 
corrosion protection.  It was given the "best choice" star (shared only with 
Lewmar) AND the "budget buy" dollar sign (shared with no one else).  Green 
grease was clearly the best value.  $0.64/oz.   
https://www.greengrease.net/kitinfo/Single14/single14ounce.html
   Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk  1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD     On Nov 3, 2018 9:46 
PM, "Chris Graham via CnC-List"  wrote:
 
  I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if 
there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive 
and I’d have to order it.    Chris 

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
This is awesome! Thanks :)


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This is the home page.  It says you can buy it online or at PepBoys, NAPA, 
AutoZone... And a few others.
https://www.greengrease.net
Josh 

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This is great information thanks so much Josh!Chris


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As promised. 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K6BjDMRWXsjeenlURzxj1x6x1278iH_c/view?usp=drivesdk
Josh
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Wander the piers during the summer.  When you see a boat with grease oozing
out of a winch, ask the owner what he used.  Don't buy it.

For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of
winches.  I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff,
mineral spirits followed by Simple Green.  I lubed them with Lewmar grease
and oil.  Never had any complaints.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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2018-11-04 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
I think I got some at Home Depot.  I use it for turnbuckles.

From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Wow Josh, that’s ridiculous! I’ve never heard of green Grease. Where can you 
find it?


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 wrote:

  I found an old PS edition from when I still had my subscription.  I'll try to 
get it digitized and  uploaded soon.  In the mean time hear are the standout 
results.  

  13 greases tested.

  Between the official winch greases, Andersen, Harken, and Lewmar.  Lewmar was 
the given the "best choice" star. 

  Using Lewmar as the reference for all of the other "budget" greases.  Green 
Grease was found to be better in both wash of corrosion protection and static 
corrosion protection.  It was given the "best choice" star (shared only with 
Lewmar) AND the "budget buy" dollar sign (shared with no one else).  Green 
grease was clearly the best value.  $0.64/oz.

  https://www.greengrease.net/kitinfo/Single14/single14ounce.html


  Josh Muckley
  S/V Sea Hawk 
  1989 C&C 37+
  Solomons, MD 

  On Nov 3, 2018 9:46 PM, "Chris Graham via CnC-List"  
wrote:

I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if 
there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive 
and I’d have to order it.  

Chris 

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

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   SuperLube is what the Anderson which company uses...it's synthetic, temperature stable and safe with plastic.
   
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread schiller via CnC-List 
I think a lot depends on a salt water or fresh water environment.  We 
are in fresh water.  I cleaned and lubed my primaries (Barlow 26) on 
Corsair (1970 Redwing 35) after about 30 years of service.  The aft 
winches were a little dry, the forwards were just fine.  Our new boat 
will get winches done this spring (Barient 18, 22 and 27), .  One of the 
cabin top winches is toast, the rest seem to be servicable.


 Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 11/4/2018 3:43 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:


I am with Dwight on this. Maybe 15 years is a bit of a stretch, but I 
did my winches last spring and I bet this was their first time in 24 
years, maybe second. They still were working fine (before cleaning and 
greasing). My winches are Lewmar.


I don’t believe that the winches run in such a demanding environment.

I am not saying that we should not do the maintenance, but I think 
that we have a few systems on our boats that require more love and 
care more regularly.


Did anyone notice any deterioration in performance or grease condition 
after 6-12 months of use?


Marek (doubting Thomas)

1994 c270 “Legato”

Ottawa, ON

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*Cc:* dwight veinot
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winch grease
You guys seem to have lube problems with you winches that i have not 
experienced. My winches have been cleaned and lubed only once in 15 
years and they work and sound just fine. Last time about 5 years ago I 
used Harken white winch grease and Harken winch pawl oil. Still worin 
smooth and sounding good. Maybe i am just lucky all Barient winches


On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:52 PM Michael Brown via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.
At low speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice.

I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me
back. After
a discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended
looking
at the Shell SRS 2000 line ( now renamed Gadus I think ). I got
the Extreme
version which is calcium suphonate based, $12 for a standard sized
grease
gun tube. I would expect it to be a lifetime supply.

After two years the grease is holding up better than anything I
have previously
tried, which includes the Lewmar/Harken greases. Previously I
would rebuild the
primary winches every year and have a mid season tear down to
check and maybe
add some grease. I took the winches apart after a season and it
looked good, better
than they usually would look mid season.

There is information on the web if you are interested. Note it is
a specific version.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 01:45:13 + (UTC)
From: Chris Graham mailto:sabre28...@yahoo.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Winch grease
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I?m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was
wondering if there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The
Lewmar grease seems expensive and I?d have to order it.?
Chris?

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
This is the home page.  It says you can buy it online or at PepBoys, NAPA,
AutoZone... And a few others.

https://www.greengrease.net

Josh


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> This is great information thanks so much Josh!
> Chris
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
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> On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 12:02 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> As promised.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K6BjDMRWXsjeenlURzxj1x6x1278iH_c/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> Josh
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 9:46 PM Chris Graham via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
> expensive and I’d have to order it.
>
> Chris
>
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
This is great information thanks so much Josh!Chris


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As promised. 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K6BjDMRWXsjeenlURzxj1x6x1278iH_c/view?usp=drivesdk
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Great, thank you Michael; I appreciate it!Chris 


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:57 AM, Michael Brown via CnC-List 
 wrote:

A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.At low 
speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice.
I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me back. Aftera 
discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended lookingat the 
Shell SRS 2000 line ( now renamed Gadus I think ). I got the Extremeversion 
which is calcium suphonate based, $12 for a standard sized greasegun tube. I 
would expect it to be a lifetime supply.
After two years the grease is holding up better than anything I have 
previouslytried, which includes the Lewmar/Harken greases. Previously I would 
rebuild theprimary winches every year and have a mid season tear down to check 
and maybeadd some grease. I took the winches apart after a season and it looked 
good, betterthan they usually would look mid season.
There is information on the web if you are interested. Note it is a specific 
version.
Michael BrownWindburnC&C 30-1


Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 01:45:13 + (UTC)
From: Chris Graham 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Winch grease
Message-ID: <63525769.358141.1541295913...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I?m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I?d have to order it.?
Chris?

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Wow Josh, that’s ridiculous! I’ve never heard of green Grease. Where can you 
find it?


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:44 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I found an old PS edition from when I still had my subscription.  I'll try to 
get it digitized and  uploaded soon.  In the mean time hear are the standout 
results. 
13 greases tested.
Between the official winch greases, Andersen, Harken, and Lewmar.  Lewmar was 
the given the "best choice" star. 
Using Lewmar as the reference for all of the other "budget" greases.  Green 
Grease was found to be better in both wash of corrosion protection and static 
corrosion protection.  It was given the "best choice" star (shared only with 
Lewmar) AND the "budget buy" dollar sign (shared with no one else).  Green 
grease was clearly the best value.  $0.64/oz.
https://www.greengrease.net/kitinfo/Single14/single14ounce.html

Josh MuckleyS/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+Solomons, MD 
On Nov 3, 2018 9:46 PM, "Chris Graham via CnC-List"  
wrote:

I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I’d have to order it. 
Chris 

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
Too late for those who already did it, but a good tip is to use an old shoe box 
with a hole through which the witch can go. This way any small parts (e.g. 
pawls) cannot jump into the water (they do have that propensity).

Marek


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Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 10:54:28 AM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

I soaked my winch parts in Brakekleen. Came clean after 10 minutes soak time. I 
keep a spray can onboard for any oily cleaning I need to do.



Doug Mountjoy
Sv Rebecca Leah
LH39
Port Orchard YC wa.

 Original message 
From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Date: 11/4/18 05:49 (GMT-08:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!

Chris


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.



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From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease


Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.



A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.



Marek

Ottawa, ON



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Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease



I’ve never heard of it! Good price!

Chris


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I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.



Bill Bruce
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
Acetone works, as well. Be careful where you do it, it does dissolve various 
things (e.g. garnish on any wood).

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

I soaked my winch parts in Brakekleen. Came clean after 10 minutes soak time. I 
keep a spray can onboard for any oily cleaning I need to do.



Doug Mountjoy
Sv Rebecca Leah
LH39
Port Orchard YC wa.

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From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Date: 11/4/18 05:49 (GMT-08:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!

Chris


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There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.



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Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease


Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.



A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.



Marek

Ottawa, ON



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I’ve never heard of it! Good price!

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I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.



Bill Bruce
Landfall 38

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
I am with Dwight on this. Maybe 15 years is a bit of a stretch, but I did my 
winches last spring and I bet this was their first time in 24 years, maybe 
second. They still were working fine (before cleaning and greasing). My winches 
are Lewmar.

I don’t believe that the winches run in such a demanding environment.

I am not saying that we should not do the maintenance, but I think that we have 
a few systems on our boats that require more love and care more regularly.

Did anyone notice any deterioration in performance or grease condition after 
6-12 months of use?

Marek (doubting Thomas)
1994 c270 “Legato”
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Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:04:28 PM
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Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

You guys seem to have lube problems with you winches that i have not 
experienced. My winches have been cleaned and lubed only once in 15 years and 
they work and sound just fine. Last time about 5 years ago I used Harken white 
winch grease and Harken winch pawl oil. Still worin smooth and sounding good. 
Maybe i am just lucky all Barient winches

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:52 PM Michael Brown via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.
At low speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice.

I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me back. After
a discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended looking
at the Shell SRS 2000 line ( now renamed Gadus I think ). I got the Extreme
version which is calcium suphonate based, $12 for a standard sized grease
gun tube. I would expect it to be a lifetime supply.

After two years the grease is holding up better than anything I have previously
tried, which includes the Lewmar/Harken greases. Previously I would rebuild the
primary winches every year and have a mid season tear down to check and maybe
add some grease. I took the winches apart after a season and it looked good, 
better
than they usually would look mid season.

There is information on the web if you are interested. Note it is a specific 
version.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 01:45:13 + (UTC)
From: Chris Graham mailto:sabre28...@yahoo.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Winch grease
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I?m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I?d have to order it.?
Chris?
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List 
You da Man Josh
i have yet to open / service a winch  since i have owned Halcyon, and by the 
shape of many unused items on the boat doubt they have been touched in last 3 
years. Will add it to my spring to do list.
i pay to sail all winter when weather allows :)

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
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On Nov 4, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
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As promised.

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Josh

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I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I’d have to order it.

Chris

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
Superlube for grease as it isn’t petroleum based and won’t damage nylon caged 
needle bearings.  I like Dri-Slide for lubricating pawls etc since it won’t 
attract dirt.
Chuck Gilchrest 
Half Magic
1983 LF 35
Padanaram MA

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> On Nov 3, 2018, at 9:54 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lubriplate, maybe mixed with a little marvel mystery oil.
> 
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> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI 
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>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 21:45, Chris Graham via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if 
>> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems 
>> expensive and I’d have to order it. 
>> 
>> Chris 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List 
You guys seem to have lube problems with you winches that i have not
experienced. My winches have been cleaned and lubed only once in 15 years
and they work and sound just fine. Last time about 5 years ago I used
Harken white winch grease and Harken winch pawl oil. Still worin smooth and
sounding good. Maybe i am just lucky all Barient winches

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:52 PM Michael Brown via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.
> At low speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice.
>
> I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me back.
> After
> a discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended looking
> at the Shell SRS 2000 line ( now renamed Gadus I think ). I got the Extreme
> version which is calcium suphonate based, $12 for a standard sized grease
> gun tube. I would expect it to be a lifetime supply.
>
> After two years the grease is holding up better than anything I have
> previously
> tried, which includes the Lewmar/Harken greases. Previously I would
> rebuild the
> primary winches every year and have a mid season tear down to check and
> maybe
> add some grease. I took the winches apart after a season and it looked
> good, better
> than they usually would look mid season.
>
> There is information on the web if you are interested. Note it is a
> specific version.
>
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
>
>
> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 01:45:13 + (UTC)
> From: Chris Graham 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Winch grease
> Message-ID: <63525769.358141.1541295913...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I?m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
> expensive and I?d have to order it.?
> Chris?
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
As promised.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K6BjDMRWXsjeenlURzxj1x6x1278iH_c/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
> expensive and I’d have to order it.
>
> Chris
>
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2018-11-04 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List 

A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.
At low speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice.


I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me back. After
a discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended looking
at the Shell SRS 2000 line ( now renamed Gadus I think ). I got the Extreme
version which is calcium suphonate based, $12 for a standard sized grease
gun tube. I would expect it to be a lifetime supply.


After two years the grease is holding up better than anything I have previously
tried, which includes the Lewmar/Harken greases. Previously I would rebuild the
primary winches every year and have a mid season tear down to check and maybe
add some grease. I took the winches apart after a season and it looked good, 
better
than they usually would look mid season.


There is information on the web if you are interested. Note it is a specific 
version.


Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1



Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 01:45:13 + (UTC) 
From: Chris Graham  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Winch grease 
Message-ID: <63525769.358141.1541295913...@mail.yahoo.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 
 
I?m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I?d have to order it.? 
Chris? 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
I found an old PS edition from when I still had my subscription.  I'll try
to get it digitized and  uploaded soon.  In the mean time hear are the
standout results.

13 greases tested.

Between the official winch greases, Andersen, Harken, and Lewmar.  Lewmar
was the given the "best choice" star.

Using Lewmar as the reference for all of the other "budget" greases.  Green
Grease was found to be better in both wash of corrosion protection and
static corrosion protection.  It was given the "best choice" star (shared
only with Lewmar) AND the "budget buy" dollar sign (shared with no one
else).  Green grease was clearly the best value.  $0.64/oz.

https://www.greengrease.net/kitinfo/Single14/single14ounce.html

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Nov 3, 2018 9:46 PM, "Chris Graham via CnC-List" 
wrote:

I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
expensive and I’d have to order it.

Chris

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
Brakekleen is awesome.  As I understand it the non-chlorinated version is
to ensure that the chemicals don't destroy the plastic and rubber
partschoose wisely.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Sun, Nov 4, 2018, 10:55 AM svrebeccaleah via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I soaked my winch parts in Brakekleen. Came clean after 10 minutes soak
> time. I keep a spray can onboard for any oily cleaning I need to do.
>
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> Sv Rebecca Leah
> LH39
> Port Orchard YC wa.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
> Date: 11/4/18 05:49 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Chris Graham 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease
>
> Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8
> anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing.
> Took me almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had
> developed!! What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!
>
> Chris
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if
> you have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably
> cheaper.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message ----
> From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
> Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease
>
> Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for
> lubricating the head pump, as well.
>
>
>
> A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily
> available in any h/w store S of the border.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Graham via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Chris Graham 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winch grease
>
>
>
> I’ve never heard of it! Good price!
>
> Chris
>
>
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> On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size
> cartridge. It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch
> company uses at the factory.
>
>
>
> Bill Bruce
> Landfall 38
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 
I soaked my winch parts in Brakekleen. Came clean after 10 minutes soak time. I 
keep a spray can onboard for any oily cleaning I need to do.


Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah LH39Port Orchard YC wa.
 Original message From: Chris Graham via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/4/18  05:49  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Winch grease 

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now! 
Chris 


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:There is a very similar teflon based grease used 
for pool valves, and if you have a pool store near you it will be easier to 
find and probably cheaper.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/4/18  8:35 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Winch grease 


Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well. 
   
A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border. 
   
Marek 
Ottawa, ON 
   


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On Behalf Of Chris Graham via CnC-List

Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: Chris Graham 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease 


   
I’ve never heard of it! Good price! 

Chris





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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
 wrote: 




I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.
 


   


Bill Bruce 

Landfall 38  




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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread schiller via CnC-List 
It might be a good time to remind what grease is.  It is a lubricating 
oil, a thickener and additives.  The oils will be petroleum based or 
synthetic.  The thickeners range from soaps (aluminum, lithium or 
calcium based), clay (think kitty litter), or polyureas.  The additives 
are for rust/oxidation, extreme pressure, friction/lubricity, etc.


The most common grease we used in precision guided weapons was synthetic 
oil based with clay thickeners (Mobil 28, Aeroshell 22, MIL-PRF-81322).  
This grease had a storage life of 10 years before the oil would migrate 
out and leave the clay sludge.  For 30 year storage life requirements, 
we used perfluourinated greases (Braycote 601EF).


It appears that the Lewmar Winch grease is a calcium soap based 
synthetic.  I have used several tubes of it through the years and it is 
good grease.  $60/pound for Lewmar vs. $3,200/lb for Braycote makes the 
decision on winches an easier decision.


The best advice is to make sure your winches get used to keep the oil 
mixed in.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 11/4/2018 9:09 AM, Don Wagner via CnC-List wrote:
I also prefer a teflon or silicone based grease. I avoid lithium based 
grease since they seem to dry out and get hard after a while.

Don Wagner
Der Baron
C&C 41 CB
*From:* Chris Graham via CnC-List
*Sent:* Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:49 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Chris Graham
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winch grease
Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 
8 anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly 
servicing. Took me almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard 
varnish that had developed!! What a mess. They look and feel brand new 
now!

Chris


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:


There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves,
and if you have a pool store near you it will be easier to find
and probably cheaper.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message 
From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
    Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for
lubricating the head pump, as well.

A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order).
Readily available in any h/w store S of the border.

Marek

Ottawa, ON

*From:*CnC-List  *On Behalf Of
*Chris Graham via CnC-List
*Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Chris Graham 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winch grease

I’ve never heard of it! Good price!

Chris


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I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn
full size cartridge. It's a clear synthetic grease and it is
what the Anderson winch company uses at the factory.

Bill Bruce
Landfall 38

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Thanks Don!


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 9:09 AM, Don Wagner via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I also prefer a teflon or silicone based grease. I avoid lithium based grease 
since they seem to dry out and get hard after a while. Don Wagner Der BaronC&C 
41 CB  From: Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:49 
AMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch 
grease Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!   Chris 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


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 wrote:

   There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.      
  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone      Original message 
 From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List   Date: 
11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00)  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease     
Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.
 
 
 
A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.
 
 
 
Marek
 
Ottawa, ON
 
 
   
From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Chris Graham via 
CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease
 
 
 
I’ve never heard of it! Good price!
  
Chris


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 wrote:
 

I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory. 
  

  
Bill Bruce 
Landfall 38 
  
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2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
They wanted $18 for shipping for the kit!! So, I think I’m just going to order 
them separately online


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:49 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now! 
Chris 


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On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:45 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Winch grease 

Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.
 
  
 
A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.
 
  
 
Marek
 
Ottawa, ON
 
  
 
From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Chris Graham via 
CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease
 
  
 
I’ve never heard of it! Good price!
 
Chris


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
 
On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.
 
  
 
Bill Bruce 
Landfall 38 
 
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2018-11-04 Thread Don Wagner via CnC-List 
I also prefer a teflon or silicone based grease. I avoid lithium based grease 
since they seem to dry out and get hard after a while.

Don Wagner 
Der Baron
C&C 41 CB


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Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:49 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!  

Chris 


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 wrote:

  There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.



  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

   Original message 
  From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List  
  Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Marek Dziedzic  
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease 

  Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.



  A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.



  Marek

  Ottawa, ON



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  I’ve never heard of it! Good price!

  Chris


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I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size 
cartridge. It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch 
company uses at the factory. 


Bill Bruce 
Landfall 38 

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2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 
anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me 
almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! 
What a mess. They look and feel brand new now! 
Chris 


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There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Winch grease 

Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.
 
  
 
A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.
 
  
 
Marek
 
Ottawa, ON
 
  
 
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Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 05:58
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chris Graham 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease
 
  
 
I’ve never heard of it! Good price!
 
Chris


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I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.
 
  
 
Bill Bruce 
Landfall 38 
 
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2018-11-04 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List 
There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you 
have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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 Date: 11/4/18  8:35 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Winch grease 


Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.
 
A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.
 
Marek
Ottawa, ON
 


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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: Chris Graham 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease


 
I’ve never heard of it! Good price!

Chris





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I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. 
It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.



  


Bill Bruce 

Landfall 38 




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2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating 
the head pump, as well.

A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily 
available in any h/w store S of the border.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

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I’ve never heard of it! Good price!
Chris


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It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at 
the factory.

Bill Bruce
Landfall 38
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   I use synthetic motor oil on pawls. Synthetics are more temperature stable
   
   Bill Bruce
   Landfall 38.  
  
 


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2018-11-04 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
Ditto – I use 10-30W oil sparingly on pawls.  I find the grease only 
occasionally needs more added each year

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease

 

I use the Lewmar grease. Use it sparingly. I do all winches (ten) on my boat 
every year, and a tube of Lewmar grease lasts me for years.  




Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

 

 

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I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I’d have to order it. 

 

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2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
I’ve never heard of it! Good price!Chris


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cartridge. It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch 
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   I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at the factory.
   
  
    
   
  
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2018-11-04 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
Here is a source:
https://us.binnacle.com/Sailboat-Hardware-Winches-&-Winch-Handles-Winch-Service-Kits-&-Parts/c28_30_424/p889/Lewmar-Winch-Maintenance-Pack-19701500/product_info.html

Lewmar Winch Maintenance Pack 19701500

Kit for basic maintence including greasing, pawl lubrication and
replacement of pawls and springs.
Contains:

   - Lewmar Gear Grease Tube 100g 19701000
   - Lewmar RaceLube Winch Oil 55ml 1970100
   - 10 Standard Pawl Springs (Small) 1260/7
   - Brush 1" B1912
   - Lewmar Winch Service Manual  Standard & Self Tailing Sz 6 to 90 B2304


Ken H.

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> I may just order a tube.
> Chris
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Saturday, November 3, 2018, 11:01 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I use the Lewmar grease. Use it sparingly. I do all winches (ten) on my
> boat every year, and a tube of Lewmar grease lasts me for years.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Chris Graham via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
> expensive and I’d have to order it.
>
> Chris
>
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2018-11-03 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
I may just order a tube. Chris


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I use the Lewmar grease. Use it sparingly. I do all winches (ten) on my boat 
every year, and a tube of Lewmar grease lasts me for years.  

Alan Bergen35 Mk III ThirstyRose City YCPortland, OR


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was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I’d have to order it. 
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2018-11-03 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
I use the Lewmar grease. Use it sparingly. I do all winches (ten) on my
boat every year, and a tube of Lewmar grease lasts me for years.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


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> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
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> expensive and I’d have to order it.
>
> Chris
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2018-11-03 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
Nuts. I no longer have a subscription. Chris 

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Practical Sailor did an article on which winch greases performed best.  FEB 2016
If you currently subscribe then you can view the article 
here:https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/37_70/features/Winch-Grease-Corrosion-Tests_12090-1.html

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2018-11-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
Practical Sailor did an article on which winch greases performed best.  FEB
2016

If you currently subscribe then you can view the article here:
https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/37_70/features/Winch-Grease-Corrosion-Tests_12090-1.html

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

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> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
> expensive and I’d have to order it.
>
> Chris
>
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2018-11-03 Thread schiller via CnC-List 
I was going to suggest Braycote 601EF but since it is going for $626 US 
for a 2 oz tube, you could buy new winches for about he same money.  
Luckily, I ended up with a 1 oz tube when I retired.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

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I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering 
if there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease 
seems expensive and I’d have to order it.


Chris

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2018-11-03 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List 
I have white lithium grease. Is it waterproof? Chris 


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I use white lithium grease on the bearings, light machine oil on the pawls.

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-03 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List 
I use white lithium grease on the bearings, light machine oil on the pawls.

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I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I’d have to order it.

Chris

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-03 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
Lubriplate, maybe mixed with a little marvel mystery oil.

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> 
> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if 
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems 
> expensive and I’d have to order it. 
> 
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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-14 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List 
Whoa David, 
Just my 2 cents, but I'd lube Barients as Barient recommends: Winch grease on 
the gears and shafts and light oil on the pawls. 

Harken is a different animal and I'd follow their recommendations for their own 
products. I'd reserve the "One Drop" for Harken products. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Good one, Russ! 

And now back to the topic- I heard back from Harken and they recommend McLube 
One Drop for plastic bearings rather then their winch grease. I had some One 
Drop as that is what I use on the plastic ball bearings in my Harken traveller, 
so I will give it a try in the Barients. Dave 

Aries 
1990 C&C 34+ 
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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-14 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List 
Good one, Russ!  

And now back to the topic- I heard back from Harken and they recommend McLube 
One Drop for plastic bearings rather then their winch grease.  I had some One 
Drop as that is what I use on the plastic ball bearings in my Harken traveller, 
so I will give it a try in the Barients.  Dave

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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-13 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List 
I have always bought a hard tooth brush because my teeth were hard. Am I
doing this wrong?

Jim Watts
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C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 13 March 2016 at 20:18, Russ & Melody via CnC-List  wrote:

> Hi Dwight
>
> As you know the tooth brush is a handy tool, but do you know the tooth
> brush was invented in Cumberland, a coal mining community on Vancouver
> Island?
>
> Yeah, if it was invented anywhere else it would have been called the teeth
> brush  ba boom!
>
> Cheers, Russ
> *Sweet *35 mk-1
> East side o'  Vancouver Island
>
>
> At 08:46 AM 13/03/2016, you wrote:
>
>   After getting them apart I cleaned everything up with a *soft tooth
> brush* and varsol, rinsed and wiped dry, for the plastic rollers it says
> on the grease label to use pawl oil on the rollers, not the grease. So I
> followed the instructions and so far no issues
>
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-13 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List 

Hi Dwight

As you know the tooth brush is a handy tool, but do you know the 
tooth brush was invented in Cumberland, a coal mining community on 
Vancouver Island?


Yeah, if it was invented anywhere else it would have been called the 
teeth brush  ba boom!


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
East side o'  Vancouver Island


At 08:46 AM 13/03/2016, you wrote:
  After getting them apart I cleaned everything up with a soft 
tooth brush and varsol, rinsed and wiped dry, for the plastic 
rollers it says on the grease label to use pawl oil on the rollers, 
not the grease. So I followed the instructions and so far no issues


Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net
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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-13 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List 
I cleaned greased and oiled all of my winches (11 in total all Barient)
with Harken Performance white winch grease and Harken pawl oil, rather
pricey stuff for the amount you get...I was surprised at first to find some
plastic rollers in some of these old winches but I guess that's normal.
After getting them apart I cleaned everything up with a soft tooth brush
and varsol, rinsed and wiped dry, for the plastic rollers it says on the
grease label to use pawl oil on the rollers, not the grease. So I followed
the instructions and so far no issues whatsoever, winches run smooth and
sound good to me, biggest winches I had were 2 Barient 34+ if I remember
right, 2 speed self tailing, a little more complicated but nothing that
difficult really

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:31 PM, schiller via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Remember that grease is simply an oil in a binder material.  Most of the
> red greases are an oil (synthetic or petroleum) in a very fine clay binder
> (read kitty litter).  When the oil migrates out of the binder, you are the
> left with a gooey mess.  Other greases use a soap (lithium) binder.
> Braycote uses Bray oil in a teflon based perfluorinate polyether binder so
> that when the synthetic oils separate, the binder left is still slippery.
> The best recipe is to keep the oil mixed with the binder.  We spent a lot
> of time looking at this for greases that could be in storage for up to 30
> years and had to work immediately.
>
> For a grease that is compatible with plastic bearings, look toward fine
> synthetic oils.  Lithium and perfluornates are basically inert.  It will
> definitely depend on the plastic material used in the bearing but most
> tolerate synthetics.  Most plastics used in bearings are self lubricating
> and shouldn't need anything more that flushing the dirt out of them.
>
>  Neil Schiller
> 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
> (C&C 35, Mark I)
> "Corsair"
> Retired Rocket Scientist
>
> On 3/13/2016 10:32 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:
>
> My interpretation of what I have read is that it is not about the
> compatibility of the grease with the plastic (although that could be an
> issue),  but more about how to effectively lubricate a plastic bearing.  I
> think they are thinking about the stickiness of the grease (any grease) and
> suggesting it is better to use an oil with those lightweight plastic
> bearings.  I don’t remember any such warning on the Lewmar winch grease,
> although it looks and feels different (dark color) from the Harken (white
> grease).  However, the Barient instructions on the C&C site says to
> lubricate everything except the pawls with Barlube, which I presume is a
> grease, so likely I am worrying too much.Dave
>
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-13 Thread schiller via CnC-List 
Remember that grease is simply an oil in a binder material.  Most of the 
red greases are an oil (synthetic or petroleum) in a very fine clay 
binder (read kitty litter).  When the oil migrates out of the binder, 
you are the left with a gooey mess.  Other greases use a soap (lithium) 
binder.  Braycote uses Bray oil in a teflon based perfluorinate 
polyether binder so that when the synthetic oils separate, the binder 
left is still slippery.  The best recipe is to keep the oil mixed with 
the binder.  We spent a lot of time looking at this for greases that 
could be in storage for up to 30 years and had to work immediately.


For a grease that is compatible with plastic bearings, look toward fine 
synthetic oils.  Lithium and perfluornates are basically inert.  It will 
definitely depend on the plastic material used in the bearing but most 
tolerate synthetics.  Most plastics used in bearings are self 
lubricating and shouldn't need anything more that flushing the dirt out 
of them.


 Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
Retired Rocket Scientist

On 3/13/2016 10:32 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:
My interpretation of what I have read is that it is not about the 
compatibility of the grease with the plastic (although that could be 
an issue),  but more about how to effectively lubricate a plastic 
bearing.  I think they are thinking about the stickiness of the grease 
(any grease) and suggesting it is better to use an oil with those 
lightweight plastic bearings.  I don’t remember any such warning on 
the Lewmar winch grease, although it looks and feels different (dark 
color) from the Harken (white grease).  However, the Barient 
instructions on the C&C site says to lubricate everything except the 
pawls with Barlube, which I presume is a grease, so likely I am 
worrying too much.Dave


Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT





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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-13 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
When I worked at Edson, we used nylon caged stainless steel needle bearings in 
our pedestals, similar to what I’ve seen used in Lewmar and Barient winches.  
Our recommended lubricant was a Teflon based lubricant called Super Lube, 
available in small .3 oz tubes with an applicator nozzle or in 3oz or 14oz 
tubes.  I’ve found this lubricant to be available at most Ace Hardware stores.  
The issue with using a petroleum based lubricant with nylon caged bearings was 
the cage was susceptible to deterioration as a result of the grease acting like 
a solvent to the cage materials.  Over time the cages would soften up and fail 
to support the needle bearings under load.

I think Dave is on the right track, indicating that each manufacturer has its 
own specific branded lube that would be compatible with the bearing materials 
used in the winch.  The key component is that petroleum wheel bearing grease, 
straight out of the automotive garage may not be suitable on several levels, 
either with regards to chemical compatibility or with viscosity.  

Chuck Gilchrest

Half Magic

1975 25 Mk 1 (still for sale!)

 

Orion

1983 35 Landfall

Pandanaram, MA

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List winch grease

 

My interpretation of what I have read is that it is not about the compatibility 
of the grease with the plastic (although that could be an issue),  but more 
about how to effectively lubricate a plastic bearing.  I think they are 
thinking about the stickiness of the grease (any grease) and suggesting it is 
better to use an oil with those lightweight plastic bearings.  I don’t remember 
any such warning on the Lewmar winch grease, although it looks and feels 
different (dark color) from the Harken (white grease).  However, the Barient 
instructions on the C&C site says to lubricate everything except the pawls with 
Barlube, which I presume is a grease, so likely I am worrying too much.Dave

 

Aries

1990 C&C 34+

New London, CT




 

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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-13 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List 
My interpretation of what I have read is that it is not about the compatibility 
of the grease with the plastic (although that could be an issue),  but more 
about how to effectively lubricate a plastic bearing.  I think they are 
thinking about the stickiness of the grease (any grease) and suggesting it is 
better to use an oil with those lightweight plastic bearings.  I don’t remember 
any such warning on the Lewmar winch grease, although it looks and feels 
different (dark color) from the Harken (white grease).  However, the Barient 
instructions on the C&C site says to lubricate everything except the pawls with 
Barlube, which I presume is a grease, so likely I am worrying too much.Dave

Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT




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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-12 Thread billbruce--- via CnC-List 

 
  
   I use pretty much any affordable synthetic grease I can get... and for oil, just synthetic motor oil. It's important to stick with the synthetics from what I've been told...as far as what brand, I don't believe it's terribly important...I buy mine at hardware and automotive stores.
   
  
    
  
 


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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
I've used the Lewmar grease and oil for years with no issues.

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/winch_clean_and_grease

Dennis C.

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 7:39 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have brought all my winches home and cleaned them and getting set to
> regrease them.  Most of the larger bearings are cylindrical units with
> plastic rollers.  I bought some Harken winch grease today and it
> specifically says it is not intended for plastic rollers and to use an oil
> instead.  The bearings certainly had been greased by whomever last worked
> on them.  What are the groups thoughts on this?  Thanks- Dave
>
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-12 Thread schiller via CnC-List 
You could look at Castrol Braycote 601.  It is a perflouoronated grease 
taht we used in missile controls.  It is basically an inert grease that 
should be compatible with the plastics.  Only downside is that it is 
about a $100 an ounce.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
Yes, I am a rocket scientist


On 3/12/2016 8:39 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:
I have brought all my winches home and cleaned them and getting set to 
regrease them.  Most of the larger bearings are cylindrical units with 
plastic rollers.  I bought some Harken winch grease today and it 
specifically says it is not intended for plastic rollers and to use an 
oil instead.  The bearings certainly had been greased by whomever last 
worked on them.  What are the groups thoughts on this?  Thanks- Dave


Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT




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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-12 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
Here's something I did for Cruising World a while back that might help.
http://www.cruisingworld.com/how/overhaul-your-winches?image=0
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine 

Andrew Burton
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> On Mar 12, 2016, at 20:39, David Knecht via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I have brought all my winches home and cleaned them and getting set to 
> regrease them.  Most of the larger bearings are cylindrical units with 
> plastic rollers.  I bought some Harken winch grease today and it specifically 
> says it is not intended for plastic rollers and to use an oil instead.  The 
> bearings certainly had been greased by whomever last worked on them.  What 
> are the groups thoughts on this?  Thanks- Dave
> 
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
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Re: Stus-List winch grease

2016-03-12 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List 
I found this online which agrees with what Harken says. What it does not say is 
what to use instead of grease on those plastic rollers.  It also says not to 
use 3in1 oil on the pawls which is what I have used in the past.  Dave

(http://sailingmagazine.net/article-1026-winch-servicing-101.html) 

Finally, before the main housing goes back in place, give all the gears and 
pins a light coating of grease. Most bearings are stainless steel and should 
receive a light coating of grease. If the bearings are plastic, as you'll find 
in some winches, do not grease them, as it will interfere with the winch's 
function. There is no need to put the grease on extra thick, and excess may 
melt out in the hot summer sun across your deck. Make sure you avoid putting 
grease in the pawls as grease is a little too sticky and will prevent them from 
clicking. Only oil is required on the pawls. Motor or gear oil works great. A 
three-and-one oil is probably too light.

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wrote:

> I have brought all my winches home and cleaned them and getting set to 
> regrease them.  Most of the larger bearings are cylindrical units with 
> plastic rollers.  I bought some Harken winch grease today and it specifically 
> says it is not intended for plastic rollers and to use an oil instead.  The 
> bearings certainly had been greased by whomever last worked on them.  What 
> are the groups thoughts on this?  Thanks- Dave
> 
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

2014-01-29 Thread Jim Watts 
I have a tube of Barient winch grease, of all things. I actually *use* the
Lewmar grease.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 24 January 2014 18:25, Dennis C.  wrote:

> I agree.  Winches are one of the most neglected pieces of hardware on a
> sailboat.  I get a lot more work repairing marine heads than I do cleaning
> and lubricating winches.  A lot of boat owners wait until their winches are
> practically seized up before they figure it out.
>
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>   --
>  *From:* John irvin 
> *To:* Dennis C. ; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:*
> *Subject:* RE: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?
>
> The most important thing is to clean and lubricate often.
> --
> From: Dennis C.
> Sent: 24/01/2014 18:03
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?
>
> I usually use the Harken on port winches and the Lewmar on starboard
> winches.  Or is it the other way around?
>
> Seriously, they're both good.  I think it's more important to not
> over-apply the grease than which grease you use.  More is not necessarily
> better when greasing winches.  Excess grease may collect in pawl pockets or
> run out on the deck.
>
> I think I prefer the Lewmar simply because it's a lighter color.  In the
> Deep South, I worry more about the grease getting hot in the sun and
> running out of the winches.  Niether the Harken or Lewmar seems to do
> that.  But should it run, I'd rather the lighter color on the gelcoat.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Chuck S 
> *To:* cnc-list CNC boat owners 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:19 PM
> *Subject:* Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?
>
> Thought I'd ask the experts,  "Which winch grease is better to service my
> 1989 Barient (aluminum drum) winches?"  21, 27, 28
>
> Harken synthetic?  Black, waterproof, non-aging.  3.5 oz for $12.89
>
> Lewmar Multi-Purpose?  Tan, Calcium-sulphonate based, like Lubriplate AA
> 3.5 oz for $15.49
>
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

2014-01-24 Thread Dennis C. 
I agree.  Winches are one of the most neglected pieces of hardware on a 
sailboat.  I get a lot more work repairing marine heads than I do cleaning and 
lubricating winches.  A lot of boat owners wait until their winches are 
practically seized up before they figure it out.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


>
> From: John irvin 
>To: Dennis C. ; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> 
>Sent: 
>Subject: RE: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?
> 
>
>
>The most important thing is to clean and lubricate often.
>
>
>From: Dennis C.
>Sent: 24/01/2014 18:03
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?
>
>
>I usually use the Harken on port winches and the Lewmar on starboard winches.  
>Or is it the other way around?
>
>Seriously, they're both good.  I think it's more important to not over-apply 
>the grease than which grease you use.  More is not necessarily better when 
>greasing winches.  Excess grease may collect in pawl pockets or run out on the 
>deck.
>
>I think I prefer the Lewmar simply because it's a lighter color.  In the Deep 
>South, I worry more about the grease getting hot in the sun and running out of 
>the winches.  Niether the
 Harken or Lewmar seems to do that.  But should it run, I'd rather the lighter 
color on the gelcoat.
>
>Dennis C.
>Touche' 35-1 #83
>Mandeville, LA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Chuck S 
>>To: cnc-list CNC boat owners  
>>Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:19 PM
>>Subject: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?
>> 
>>
>>
>>Thought I'd ask the experts,  "Which winch grease is better to service my 
>>1989 Barient (aluminum drum) winches?"  21, 27, 28
>>
>>Harken
 synthetic?  Black, waterproof, non-aging.  3.5 oz for $12.89
>>
>>Lewmar Multi-Purpose?  Tan, Calcium-sulphonate based, like
 Lubriplate AA  3.5 oz for $15.49
>>
>>
>>
>>Chuck
>>Resolute
>>1990 C&C 34R
>>Atlantic City, NJ
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

2014-01-24 Thread John irvin 
The most important thing is to clean and lubricate often.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis C.
Sent: 24/01/2014 18:03
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?




I usually use the Harken on port winches and the Lewmar on starboard winches.  
Or is it the other way around?

Seriously, they're both good.  I think it's more important to not over-apply 
the grease than which grease you use.  More is not necessarily better when 
greasing winches.  Excess grease may collect in pawl pockets or run out on the 
deck.

I think I prefer the Lewmar simply because it's a lighter color.  In the Deep 
South, I worry more about the grease getting hot in the sun and running out of 
the winches.  Niether the Harken or Lewmar seems to do that.  But should it 
run, I'd rather the lighter color on the gelcoat.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA








 




From: Chuck S 
To: cnc-list CNC boat owners  
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:19 PM
 Subject: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?
 



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Thought I'd ask the experts,  "Which winch grease is better to service my 1989 
Barient (aluminum drum) winches?"  21, 27, 28

Harken synthetic?  Black, waterproof, non-aging.  3.5 oz for $12.89

Lewmar Multi-Purpose?  Tan, Calcium-sulphonate based, like Lubriplate AA  3.5 
oz for $15.49



Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ


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Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

2014-01-24 Thread schiller 
How about Braycote 601.  Pretty much inert and lasts for about 30 
years.  Only downside is the $100/oz ($1600/lb).  Used extensively in 
Missile and space.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
Snowy and Cold South Haven, MI
On 1/23/2014 10:19 PM, Chuck S wrote:
Thought I'd ask the experts,  "Which winch grease is better to service 
my 1989 Barient (aluminum drum) winches?"  21, 27, 28


Harken synthetic?  Black, waterproof, non-aging.  3.5 oz for $12.89

Lewmar Multi-Purpose?  Tan, Calcium-sulphonate based, like Lubriplate 
AA  3.5 oz for $15.49



Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ


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Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

2014-01-24 Thread Dennis C. 
I usually use the Harken on port winches and the Lewmar on starboard winches.  
Or is it the other way around?

Seriously, they're both good.  I think it's more important to not over-apply 
the grease than which grease you use.  More is not necessarily better when 
greasing winches.  Excess grease may collect in pawl pockets or run out on the 
deck.

I think I prefer the Lewmar simply because it's a lighter color.  In the Deep 
South, I worry more about the grease getting hot in the sun and running out of 
the winches.  Niether the Harken or Lewmar seems to do that.  But should it 
run, I'd rather the lighter color on the gelcoat.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA




>
> From: Chuck S 
>To: cnc-list CNC boat owners  
>Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:19 PM
>Subject: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?
> 
>
>
>Thought I'd ask the experts,  "Which winch grease is better to service my 1989 
>Barient (aluminum drum) winches?"  21, 27, 28
>
>Harken synthetic?  Black, waterproof, non-aging.  3.5 oz for $12.89
>
>Lewmar Multi-Purpose?  Tan, Calcium-sulphonate based, like
 Lubriplate AA  3.5 oz for $15.49
>
>
>
>Chuck
>Resolute
>1990 C&C 34R
>Atlantic City, NJ
>
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

2014-01-24 Thread Andrew Burton 
Back in the day, they used to make something they called "strawberry jam" for 
the 12s in the AC.
As near as I can recall, it was 3 parts Lubriplate A, 1 part STP, and 1 part 
Marvel Mystery Oil. 

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

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61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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+401 965-5260

On Jan 24, 2014, at 17:28, "Jake Brodersen"  wrote:

> Chuck,
>  
> I use the Lewmar grease.  It’s pretty good.  Stay away from the West Marine 
> stuff.  It’s horrible.  I might try the Harken stuff.  Synthetic might help 
> speed up my tacks.  I’ll take any advantage I can get…
>  
> Jake
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:20 PM
> To: cnc-list CNC boat owners
> Subject: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?
>  
> Thought I'd ask the experts,  "Which winch grease is better to service my 
> 1989 Barient (aluminum drum) winches?"  21, 27, 28
> 
> Harken synthetic?  Black, waterproof, non-aging.  3.5 oz for $12.89
> 
> Lewmar Multi-Purpose?  Tan, Calcium-sulphonate based, like Lubriplate AA  3.5 
> oz for $15.49
> 
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

2014-01-24 Thread Jake Brodersen 
Chuck,

 

I use the Lewmar grease.  It’s pretty good.  Stay away from the West Marine 
stuff.  It’s horrible.  I might try the Harken stuff.  Synthetic might help 
speed up my tacks.  I’ll take any advantage I can get…

 

Jake

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:20 PM
To: cnc-list CNC boat owners
Subject: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

 

Thought I'd ask the experts,  "Which winch grease is better to service my 1989 
Barient (aluminum drum) winches?"  21, 27, 28

Harken synthetic?  Black, waterproof, non-aging.  3.5 oz for $12.89

Lewmar Multi-Purpose?  Tan, Calcium-sulphonate based, like Lubriplate AA  3.5 
oz for $15.49



Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

2014-01-24 Thread dwight 
I have found that some white lithium grease cakes and hardens with time.I
suppose it would have worked fine had I cleaned and regreased every year.but
sometimes I wait more than 5 years.my Barient 28+ sheet winches and my
secondary sheet winches are getting done this spring before launch.I plan to
use Pennzoil Marine 100% synthetic white marine grease on the gears and
Harken winch oil on the pawls and bearings

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John
irvin
Sent: January 24, 2014 10:54 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

 

I have used white lithium successfully for years.

  _  

From: Chuck S
Sent: 23/01/2014 23:20
To: cnc-list CNC boat owners
Subject: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

Thought I'd ask the experts,  "Which winch grease is better to service my
1989 Barient (aluminum drum) winches?"  21, 27, 28

Harken synthetic?  Black, waterproof, non-aging.  3.5 oz for $12.89

Lewmar Multi-Purpose?  Tan, Calcium-sulphonate based, like Lubriplate AA
3.5 oz for $15.49



Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

2014-01-24 Thread John irvin 
I have used white lithium successfully for years.

-Original Message-
From: Chuck S
Sent: 23/01/2014 23:20
To: cnc-list CNC boat owners
Subject: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

Thought I'd ask the experts,  "Which winch grease is better to service my 1989 
Barient (aluminum drum) winches?"  21, 27, 28

Harken synthetic?  Black, waterproof, non-aging.  3.5 oz for $12.89

Lewmar Multi-Purpose?  Tan, Calcium-sulphonate based, like Lubriplate AA  3.5 
oz for $15.49



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Resolute
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease, Harken or Lewmar?

2014-01-24 Thread Ken Heaton 
I actually have the same question.  I have both types of grease (Harken &
Lewmar).  Is one better than the other?  I have both Barients with aluminum
drums and Lewmars.

Ken H.
C&C 37 XL Salazar


On 23 January 2014 23:19, Chuck S  wrote:

> Thought I'd ask the experts,  "Which winch grease is better to service my
> 1989 Barient (aluminum drum) winches?"  21, 27, 28
>
> Harken synthetic?  Black, waterproof, non-aging.  3.5 oz for $12.89
>
> Lewmar Multi-Purpose?  Tan, Calcium-sulphonate based, like Lubriplate AA
> 3.5 oz for $15.49
>
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
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