Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
Yep, was at 3/4 full. I’m pretty sure it was crud picked up by pickup in tank. Kinda hard to get at now, but I’ll sort it out when I haul in in a month or so. Meanwhile, I’ll happily avoid anymore voyages like we had! Dean > On Sep 7, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List > wrote: > > Kinda basic question, but did the tank have sufficient fuel? Too little in > rough seas could be a problem with a diesel. > Ron > Wild Cheri > C&C 30-1 > STL > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
Kinda basic question, but did the tank have sufficient fuel? Too little in rough seas could be a problem with a diesel.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
IMHO a fuel pressure gauge you can see from the helm is a HUGE help in finding problems and getting some advanced warning. Joe Coquina ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
Another benefit to the squeeze bulb is that if the tank pick up line gets plugged with gunk, the bulb will collapse under the vacuum created. By blowing into the line you can usually clear the blockage. Yum! Fred Hazzard S/V Fury C&C 44 Portland, Or On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 5:24 AM David Risch via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > If ya got that kind of gunk the only real way to get rid of of it is to > remove it and clean it proper. I took boiling vinegar and rinse and shook > it twice Then rinsed and dried. No gunk > > Polishing is a waste of money (or so I read). > > Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. > > *From:* CnC-List on behalf of > Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, September 6, 2020 4:47:08 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; Josh Muckley via > CnC-List ; C&C List > *Cc:* ted_reli...@yahoo.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? > > I found the easiest way to fill the racor ,and prime the injectors if > needed, is a hand squeeze primer bulb. I put it in the fuel line before the > filter. I can change the filter and just fill it back up bleeding the air > out on top. > Ted > SV Ten-Ten > '81 40 > Punta Gorda ,Fl. > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 11:44, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > -- > *From:* CnC-List on behalf of > Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, September 6, 2020 4:47:08 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; Josh Muckley via > CnC-List ; C&C List > *Cc:* ted_reli...@yahoo.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? > > I found the easiest way to fill the racor ,and prime the injectors if > needed, is a hand squeeze primer bulb. I put it in the fuel line before the > filter. I can change the filter and just fill it back up bleeding the air > out on top. > Ted > SV Ten-Ten > '81 40 > Punta Gorda ,Fl. > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 11:44, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
If ya got that kind of gunk the only real way to get rid of of it is to remove it and clean it proper. I took boiling vinegar and rinse and shook it twice Then rinsed and dried. No gunk Polishing is a waste of money (or so I read). Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. From: CnC-List on behalf of Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 4:47:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; Josh Muckley via CnC-List ; C&C List Cc: ted_reli...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? I found the easiest way to fill the racor ,and prime the injectors if needed, is a hand squeeze primer bulb. I put it in the fuel line before the filter. I can change the filter and just fill it back up bleeding the air out on top. Ted SV Ten-Ten '81 40 Punta Gorda ,Fl. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 11:44, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray From: CnC-List on behalf of Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 4:47:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; Josh Muckley via CnC-List ; C&C List Cc: ted_reli...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? I found the easiest way to fill the racor ,and prime the injectors if needed, is a hand squeeze primer bulb. I put it in the fuel line before the filter. I can change the filter and just fill it back up bleeding the air out on top. Ted SV Ten-Ten '81 40 Punta Gorda ,Fl. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 11:44, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
I found the easiest way to fill the racor ,and prime the injectors if needed, is a hand squeeze primer bulb. I put it in the fuel line before the filter. I can change the filter and just fill it back up bleeding the air out on top. TedSV Ten-Ten'81 40Punta Gorda ,Fl. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 11:44, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
A common racor to be used in these situations is the 200FG. Usually provided with a clear bowl but sometimes with a metal bowl. The metal bowls were provided as an option specifically for gasoline installations. These racors can be tricky to vent and fill completely, especially if the bowl is metal since you can't see if air is trapped. It was not unusual for me to need to "vent" more that a gallon of fuel before I got the bowl completely full. Here are 2 videos. One shows a mod that I made for venting the 200FG racor. The other shows my fuel mod using seal washers and fool-proof method for venting the fuel system. https://youtu.be/H-GI38vE4hQ https://youtu.be/F7KD1_EZmU4 Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 14:20 Dean McNeill via CnC-List wrote: > Just brought my new-to-me C&C34 home. My 2009 Yanmar 3YM30 purred like a > kitten in most seas. But this was a 30 hour slog through hell. Decided to > motor-sail a bit in some heavy seas (20-25 kts), engine, at 2500-2800 rpm, > would suddenly lose revs then often quit. Could start up again in a few > moments, but would do it again in 5 minutes or so. Gave up on it until > winds died down and started it up no problem... worked flawlessly for a 2 > hour motor in calm waters after that. Boat was fully serviced in fall and > on hard until 2 weeks ago when I bought and launched it. Has a Racor > filter/water separator and inline fuel filter. I'm wondering if the exhaust > being under water during that point of sail would cause the issue or maybe > I should just change up filters, or was it probably sediment in tank being > kicked up and starving the engine? Thoughts? > > Dean > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
Not sure if the diesel replaced a gas engine, but I expect it did. Unfortunately owner who did that switch is unreachable. I’ll check into that tube in next day or so! Dean > On Sep 6, 2020, at 8:26 AM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List > wrote: > > Welcome to the list and the 34 is a great boat. FWIW we still have original > 3GM and it works like a charm > > I second the thought of checking the tube. Exactly what happened on our > previous boat when we changed from gas to diesel. My understanding is > screens on pickup tube were common if engine was gas. Did your Yanmar > replace a gas engine? > > John and Maryann > Legacy III > 1982 C&C 34 > Noank, CT > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul > Fountain via CnC-List > Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2020 4:20 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Paul Fountain > Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? > > I’d also pull the fuel pick tube and see if there is a screen in the end of > it, if there is one remove it - it’s likely picking up sediment and starving > the engine, dropping ir when the engine stops. > > If it that or the filters I would either polish the fuel, and add a cleaner, > or remove it and have the tank cleaned. > > Paul > From: CnC-List on behalf of Dean McNeill via > CnC-List > Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 2:19:50 PM > To: Steve Thomas via CnC-List > Cc: Dean McNeill > Subject: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? > > Just brought my new-to-me C&C34 home. My 2009 Yanmar 3YM30 purred like a > kitten in most seas. But this was a 30 hour slog through hell. Decided to > motor-sail a bit in some heavy seas (20-25 kts), engine, at 2500-2800 rpm, > would suddenly lose revs then often quit. Could start up again in a few > moments, but would do it again in 5 minutes or so. Gave up on it until winds > died down and started it up no problem... worked flawlessly for a 2 hour > motor in calm waters after that. Boat was fully serviced in fall and on hard > until 2 weeks ago when I bought and launched it. Has a Racor filter/water > separator and inline fuel filter. I'm wondering if the exhaust being under > water during that point of sail would cause the issue or maybe I should just > change up filters, or was it probably sediment in tank being kicked up and > starving the engine? Thoughts? > > Dean > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray>___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
Our 33-ll was diesel from the factory, and had a screen. Paul From: CnC-List on behalf of John and Maryann Read via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:26:51 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: John and Maryann Read Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? Welcome to the list and the 34 is a great boat. FWIW we still have original 3GM and it works like a charm I second the thought of checking the tube. Exactly what happened on our previous boat when we changed from gas to diesel. My understanding is screens on pickup tube were common if engine was gas. Did your Yanmar replace a gas engine? John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Fountain via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2020 4:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul Fountain Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? I’d also pull the fuel pick tube and see if there is a screen in the end of it, if there is one remove it - it’s likely picking up sediment and starving the engine, dropping ir when the engine stops. If it that or the filters I would either polish the fuel, and add a cleaner, or remove it and have the tank cleaned. Paul From: CnC-List on behalf of Dean McNeill via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 2:19:50 PM To: Steve Thomas via CnC-List Cc: Dean McNeill Subject: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? Just brought my new-to-me C&C34 home. My 2009 Yanmar 3YM30 purred like a kitten in most seas. But this was a 30 hour slog through hell. Decided to motor-sail a bit in some heavy seas (20-25 kts), engine, at 2500-2800 rpm, would suddenly lose revs then often quit. Could start up again in a few moments, but would do it again in 5 minutes or so. Gave up on it until winds died down and started it up no problem... worked flawlessly for a 2 hour motor in calm waters after that. Boat was fully serviced in fall and on hard until 2 weeks ago when I bought and launched it. Has a Racor filter/water separator and inline fuel filter. I'm wondering if the exhaust being under water during that point of sail would cause the issue or maybe I should just change up filters, or was it probably sediment in tank being kicked up and starving the engine? Thoughts? Dean ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
Welcome to the list and the 34 is a great boat. FWIW we still have original 3GM and it works like a charm I second the thought of checking the tube. Exactly what happened on our previous boat when we changed from gas to diesel. My understanding is screens on pickup tube were common if engine was gas. Did your Yanmar replace a gas engine? John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Fountain via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2020 4:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul Fountain Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? I'd also pull the fuel pick tube and see if there is a screen in the end of it, if there is one remove it - it's likely picking up sediment and starving the engine, dropping ir when the engine stops. If it that or the filters I would either polish the fuel, and add a cleaner, or remove it and have the tank cleaned. Paul _ From: CnC-List on behalf of Dean McNeill via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 2:19:50 PM To: Steve Thomas via CnC-List Cc: Dean McNeill Subject: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? Just brought my new-to-me C&C34 home. My 2009 Yanmar 3YM30 purred like a kitten in most seas. But this was a 30 hour slog through hell. Decided to motor-sail a bit in some heavy seas (20-25 kts), engine, at 2500-2800 rpm, would suddenly lose revs then often quit. Could start up again in a few moments, but would do it again in 5 minutes or so. Gave up on it until winds died down and started it up no problem... worked flawlessly for a 2 hour motor in calm waters after that. Boat was fully serviced in fall and on hard until 2 weeks ago when I bought and launched it. Has a Racor filter/water separator and inline fuel filter. I'm wondering if the exhaust being under water during that point of sail would cause the issue or maybe I should just change up filters, or was it probably sediment in tank being kicked up and starving the engine? Thoughts? Dean ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
I’d also pull the fuel pick tube and see if there is a screen in the end of it, if there is one remove it - it’s likely picking up sediment and starving the engine, dropping ir when the engine stops. If it that or the filters I would either polish the fuel, and add a cleaner, or remove it and have the tank cleaned. Paul From: CnC-List on behalf of Dean McNeill via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 2:19:50 PM To: Steve Thomas via CnC-List Cc: Dean McNeill Subject: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea? Just brought my new-to-me C&C34 home. My 2009 Yanmar 3YM30 purred like a kitten in most seas. But this was a 30 hour slog through hell. Decided to motor-sail a bit in some heavy seas (20-25 kts), engine, at 2500-2800 rpm, would suddenly lose revs then often quit. Could start up again in a few moments, but would do it again in 5 minutes or so. Gave up on it until winds died down and started it up no problem... worked flawlessly for a 2 hour motor in calm waters after that. Boat was fully serviced in fall and on hard until 2 weeks ago when I bought and launched it. Has a Racor filter/water separator and inline fuel filter. I'm wondering if the exhaust being under water during that point of sail would cause the issue or maybe I should just change up filters, or was it probably sediment in tank being kicked up and starving the engine? Thoughts? Dean ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
I suspect muck at the bottom of your fuel tank is getting stirred up when you’re bouncing around and that’s clogging either the intake or filter. Have you looked at your fuel filter recently? Andy Masquerade Andrew Burton 26 Beacon Hill Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Sep 5, 2020, at 14:19, Dean McNeill via CnC-List > wrote: > > Just brought my new-to-me C&C34 home. My 2009 Yanmar 3YM30 purred like a > kitten in most seas. But this was a 30 hour slog through hell. Decided to > motor-sail a bit in some heavy seas (20-25 kts), engine, at 2500-2800 rpm, > would suddenly lose revs then often quit. Could start up again in a few > moments, but would do it again in 5 minutes or so. Gave up on it until winds > died down and started it up no problem... worked flawlessly for a 2 hour > motor in calm waters after that. Boat was fully serviced in fall and on hard > until 2 weeks ago when I bought and launched it. Has a Racor filter/water > separator and inline fuel filter. I'm wondering if the exhaust being under > water during that point of sail would cause the issue or maybe I should just > change up filters, or was it probably sediment in tank being kicked up and > starving the engine? Thoughts? > > Dean > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
