Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
It is incredibly easy once you know how to do that. Btw. as someone mentioned, there are multiple opportunities to let some parts drop in the water. Marek From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: July-22-15 13:45 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stevan Plavsa Subject: Re: Stus-List replacing furling line Ditto on my ultrafurl, hole and stop knot. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Alan Bergen via CnC-List wrote: My Harken furler has a hole in the top of the drum. I just pass the furling line through the hole, and tie a knot. Nothing more. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have the manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any hints, if anyone of you have done this before. One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a “hog ring”. Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. thanks for your help Marek C270, “Legato” in Ottawa ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
Thanks for all the help. Actually, the manual you referenced has much better pictures. I tackled the job this evening and it is much easier than one would think. There is a hole in the hub of the drum. The tricky part is to pass the line through that hole, because it has to make a 90 deg turn. I found that removing the line guards helps a lot. You secure the line on the inside of the drum by tying a knot or, as Harken recommends, using a hog ring and crimping it on the bent (180 deg) line. Btw. you have to make sure that the line diameter is what is specified for the particular type of the furler. The hole is just barely larger than 1/4” (in my case - Unit 00), so going even 1/16 over would not work. Thanks Marek C270, “Legato” Ottawa, ON From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via CnC-List Sent: July-22-15 21:18 To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list Cc: Chuck S Subject: Re: Stus-List replacing furling line My Harken 01 uses 5/16" line and a figure eight knot works fine to keep the line in the drum. Found the manual online and if it is the same model, a knot would work for you too. http://www.harken.com/uploadedfiles/Product_Support/PDF/mk3-0-4862.pdf Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md _ From: "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Marek Dziedzic" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:06:48 AM Subject: Stus-List replacing furling line I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have the manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any hints, if anyone of you have done this before. One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a “hog ring”. Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. thanks for your help Marek C270, “Legato” in Ottawa ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
My Harken 01 uses 5/16" line and a figure eight knot works fine to keep the line in the drum. Found the manual online and if it is the same model, a knot would work for you too. http://www.harken.com/uploadedfiles/Product_Support/PDF/mk3-0-4862.pdf Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Marek Dziedzic" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:06:48 AM Subject: Stus-List replacing furling line I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have the manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any hints, if anyone of you have done this before. One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a “hog ring”. Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. thanks for your help Marek C270, “Legato” in Ottawa ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
forgot, before you unfurl the sail, reconnect the tack to the drum Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:42 PM, dwight veinot wrote: > Marek > > My Harken furler is not the same Unit 00 but replacing the line is easy. > With the sail furled disconnect the tack of the sail from the drum, pull > the furling line completely off the drum and undo the stop knot (I use a > figure 8) measure the length, get a new line a few feet longer, same > diameter (I use 5/16 braid black tracer), fix the new line to the axle > again figure 8 stopper knot, roll the new line onto the drum by rotating > the drum by hand in the correct direction to meet the blocks that lead the > line aft, unfurl the sail, then furl the sail at the mooring or going to > weather, adjust the furling line length at the aft end to suit your > preference...done...I don't use a stopper knot at the aft end, that is why > I like the line to be a little longer > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna* > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > d.ve...@bellaliant.net > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have >> the manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any >> hints, if anyone of you have done this before. >> >> One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a “hog >> ring”. Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special >> tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. >> >> thanks for your help >> >> Marek >> C270, “Legato” >> in Ottawa >> >> >> ___ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
Marek My Harken furler is not the same Unit 00 but replacing the line is easy. With the sail furled disconnect the tack of the sail from the drum, pull the furling line completely off the drum and undo the stop knot (I use a figure 8) measure the length, get a new line a few feet longer, same diameter (I use 5/16 braid black tracer), fix the new line to the axle again figure 8 stopper knot, roll the new line onto the drum by rotating the drum by hand in the correct direction to meet the blocks that lead the line aft, unfurl the sail, then furl the sail at the mooring or going to weather, adjust the furling line length at the aft end to suit your preference...done...I don't use a stopper knot at the aft end, that is why I like the line to be a little longer Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have > the manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any > hints, if anyone of you have done this before. > > One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a “hog > ring”. Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special > tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. > > thanks for your help > > Marek > C270, “Legato” > in Ottawa > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
Some older furlers required that you remove the drum to get to the end of the line to undo the knot. IIRC there were 4 hex-head screws that held my original drum together (Mark 3?) which had to be removed to reach the knot. The line was threaded thru the drum and the knot was buried behind/inside the furling drum. Removing the screws allowed the drum to separate into 2 pieces. While the screws were captured in the half drums, the cover and bottom and their screws could easily end up in the water--as could the entire drum half so be very very careful working with whatever parts/pieces you undo! Charlie Nelson 36 XL/kcb Water Phantom Oriental, NC cenel...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Alan Bergen via CnC-List To: C&C Photoalbum email list Cc: Alan Bergen Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2015 1:01 pm Subject: Stus-List replacing furling line My Harken furler has a hole in the top of the drum. I just pass the furling line through the hole, and tie a knot. Nothing more. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have the manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any hints, if anyone of you have done this before. One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a “hog ring”. Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. thanks for your help Marek C270, “Legato” in Ottawa ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
Same on my old Harken furler. Have to rewind furler each time I change my head sail. PO had UV protection put on opposite side for new sail. Needless to say I don't change it often. Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From: Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Date: Wed, Jul 22, 2015 10:45To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Stevan Plavsa;Subject:Re: Stus-List replacing furling line Ditto on my ultrafurl, hole and stop knot. SteveSuhana, C&C 32Toronto On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Alan Bergen via CnC-List wrote: My Harken furler has a hole in the top of the drum. I just pass the furling line through the hole, and tie a knot. Nothing more. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have the manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any hints, if anyone of you have done this before. One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a “hog ring”. Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. thanks for your help MarekC270, “Legato”in Ottawa ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
Ditto on my ultrafurl, hole and stop knot. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Alan Bergen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > My Harken furler has a hole in the top of the drum. I just pass the > furling line through the hole, and tie a knot. Nothing more. > > Alan Bergen > 35 Mk III Thirsty > Rose City YC > Portland, OR > > I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have the > manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any hints, > if anyone of you have done this before. > > One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a “hog > ring”. Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special > tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. > > thanks for your help > > Marek > C270, “Legato” > in Ottawa > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
On my Harken furler the line goes down through a small hole near the center of the rope drum, I just feed it through and put a figure eight knot in it. The knot has to be tight to fit into the space below the drum, but that's all there is to it. Neil Gallagher Weatherly, 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 7/22/2015 11:29 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote: Thanks; but I was thinking more of the actual steps of removing the old line and putting the new one in. I.e. where are the set screws? Do I need to take the drum off? Any special tools needed? etc. On my old boat, I had a Furlex and it was simple -- there was a set screw (you needed a torx driver) and that's it. On this one, I have a problem finding how the line is attached. Marek *From:* David via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:36 AM *To:* CNC CNC <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *Cc:* David <mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List replacing furling line I used simple dacron braided and stripped the core for the line that wraps on the furling drum. It helps lay the line flat and reduces problems in the drum. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:06:48 -0400 Subject: Stus-List replacing furling line From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: dziedzi...@hotmail.com I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have the manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any hints, if anyone of you have done this before. One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a "hog ring". Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. thanks for your help Marek C270, "Legato" in Ottawa ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
Thanks; but I was thinking more of the actual steps of removing the old line and putting the new one in. I.e. where are the set screws? Do I need to take the drum off? Any special tools needed? etc. On my old boat, I had a Furlex and it was simple – there was a set screw (you needed a torx driver) and that’s it. On this one, I have a problem finding how the line is attached. Marek From: David via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:36 AM To: CNC CNC Cc: David Subject: Re: Stus-List replacing furling line I used simple dacron braided and stripped the core for the line that wraps on the furling drum. It helps lay the line flat and reduces problems in the drum. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:06:48 -0400 Subject: Stus-List replacing furling line From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: dziedzi...@hotmail.com I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have the manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any hints, if anyone of you have done this before. One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a “hog ring”. Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. thanks for your help Marek C270, “Legato” in Ottawa ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List replacing furling line
I used simple dacron braided and stripped the core for the line that wraps on the furling drum. It helps lay the line flat and reduces problems in the drum. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:06:48 -0400 Subject: Stus-List replacing furling line From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: dziedzi...@hotmail.com I need to replace the furling line in my Harken Unit 00 furler. I have the manual, but the instructions are very vague. I would appreciate any hints, if anyone of you have done this before. One more thing: the instruction call for securing the line with a “hog ring”. Is there an easy way of doing it? I am not about to buy a special tool and a load of 1000 fasteners to use just one. thanks for your help Marek C270, “Legato” in Ottawa ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
