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Definitely vote list. I get to see every email under its own tab with Gmail and I chose which I want to read. Many times I am reading not because I have an issue but to learn a little more about my wonderful boat! I know that I would not travel to a separate site and log in to scroll through topics on a forum. I like the idea of the gofundme account too. Keep us posted on that! Tracy Hirsh Ogopogo 1989 37+ CB Fairhope AL On Mar 13, 2015 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I like the list. Use a separate address for it so regular emails are not affected. Sometimes a lot of volume but no big deal to delete what is not interesting to me. Cheers Stu, and thanks again. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Hirsh via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:12 AM To: Stu; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum Definitely vote list. I get to see every email under its own tab with Gmail and I chose which I want to read. Many times I am reading not because I have an issue but to learn a little more about my wonderful boat! I know that I would not travel to a separate site and log in to scroll through topics on a forum. I like the idea of the gofundme account too. Keep us posted on that! Tracy Hirsh Ogopogo 1989 37+ CB Fairhope AL On Mar 13, 2015 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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List seems much more interactive than a forum. Prefer the list which is why I am here not sailnet Mike 1981 CC 36 Blue Horizon No 1 ALUMNI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 7:37 PM To: Stu; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum I prefer the list. There are plenty of forums. This list is different / better because of the CC focus and limited participation (not invaded by non CC owners and alumni). Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 2:32 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Jonathan — you’re right. Setting your mail client up as IMAP rather than as a POP client means that all messages will stay on the email server, and then be copied to all IMAP clients of that account when they connect. I’ve got my Gmail account set up that way on my MacBook Pro, iPhone and iPad, and everything stays synchronized; so it appears to work for Google Mail. I’ve also got several personal and work email accounts set up that way. With POP, as soon as a client connects, the message is downloaded from the server to that client only; there’s no good way to keep things synchronized. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am no expert - but believe you have to set up your email account as an IMAP account rather than POP3. With IMAP, the various mail clients are synchronized so that if you delete an email on one device, it is deleted from all. (I have 4 devices from which I can read / send emails - so it was critical for me to have this feature). I don't use gmail - I have my own domain with godaddy and it was not difficult to set the account as IMAP - not sure if gmail can be so easily configured -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Close. Does not have to be all Apple products to sync with IMAP. I have Outlook on my home PC, and on my work Laptop. I have an iPhone and an IPad mini. All retrieve emails from the server, but if I delete an email on one device, it will be deleted on all the others. Likewise I can see sent messages that were sent from one device, on all others. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Mar 15, 2015, at 21:44, Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: What I understand you to be saying, though, is that with all Apple devices, and with all set up on an IMAP account, you can look at the messages you have on any of the devices. And when you delete a message after looking at it on the IPad, you will not see it again on the phone, MacBook, etc.? ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Actually that is not strictly true. My laptop, using Outlook, is set to remove messages from the POP server. It is a setting you chose when setting up the email account. I also use whatever email client comes standard on my IPad. When I set up the mail account on it, I chose the setting to not delete messages when downloaded. That way I see all the messages on my laptop and can chose which to archive, delete, etc. The SPAM blocker for either Windows or MacAfee seems to work a lot better than twhatever is on the IPad, so I get a lot fewer letters from Nigerian royalty and folks in Russia with a miracle cure for my diabetes. I do need to keep my IPad turned off (as opposed to sleep mode) so it does not periodically download messages on the server. But when I am on the boat or carrying only the IPad, I turn it on and it downloads whatever messages are on the server - and leaves them there to be downloaded on the laptop at some later time. What I understand you to be saying, though, is that with all Apple devices, and with all set up on an IMAP account, you can look at the messages you have on any of the devices. And when you delete a message after looking at it on the IPad, you will not see it again on the phone, MacBook, etc.? Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:29 AM To: Indigo; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum With POP, as soon as a client connects, the message is downloaded from the server to that client only; there's no good way to keep things synchronized. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am no expert - but believe you have to set up your email account as an IMAP account rather than POP3. With IMAP, the various mail clients are synchronized so that if you delete an email on one device, it is deleted from all. (I have 4 devices from which I can read / send emails - so it was critical for me to have this feature). I don't use gmail - I have my own domain with godaddy and it was not difficult to set the account as IMAP - not sure if gmail can be so easily configured -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I am rarely a poster but a frequent viewer. I would greatly prefer a forum to the list. I use a forum to indulge one of my other expensive hobbies (see http://forums.pelicanparts.com/1-porsche-technical-forums/). I find it to be a much more user-friendly format. Also, there may be some savings in that you can incorporate the classifieds into one of the forums. But don't take this the wrong way. I greatly appreciate this list and all the work that it takes to run it! - Original Message -From: cnc-list-request@cnc-list.comTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSent: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:57:34 - (UTC)Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 110, Issue 49 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.comor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan Re: Contents of CnC-List digest... Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a ?Forum? similar to ?cruisersforum? or ?sailnet? instead of an email list (like this one). PROS:1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked.6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS:1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements.2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. ()3. Installation ? I?ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line ? would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu * ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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From: Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 4:19 PM To: 'RPH' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum My main reason for preferring a forum over an email list is nights like tonight where I have 95 emails to sort through on the computer and I know that I’ll have to go through them again on the cell phone and tablet the next time I log on with them (that’s very infrequent). I haven’t mastered how to get gmail to delete posts from my account when I delete them on the computer, but I’m sure there is a setting somewhere! James Delaney CC 38 Mk2 Oriental, NC ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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i think the list is fine as it is but I would not object to a Forum type format.___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Seems to me the recurring reason for preference for a forum is simplicity in searching the list archive when you have a question. As I recall that is pretty easy using Google – though I use the function so seldom I’ve forgotten exactly how to do it. I have a subfolder in my email called “Boat Stuff”. If I see a message with content I feel I will want to access later – maybe a project or a technique or a recommendation for a certain piece of gear – the message gets moved to the “Boat Stuff” folder and gets archived on my own hard drive. I think the last time I actually searched for something in the list archive was when my hard drive fried and I lost my old “Boat Stuff” folder. And I feel I should point out that, were this a forum format, there is little likelihood that anyone on the list except Stu would have seen the question that you asked in your post. In list format we all get asked the question. With List format, the recent discussion that started with a comment on the VOR grounding morphed into a discussion of proper navigation techniques, the value of paper charts, and what is actually required to be on your boat. In my opinion that sort of information is useful to everyone. But in Forum format one would need to search for the VOR grounding in order to stumble onto the chart discussion, AFIK. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RPH via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 12:54 PM To: airdale...@juno.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum I am a relative newbie here, but I would very much prefer a FORUM and I would certainly make a donation to help cover the costs. Frankly, I am a little surprised that there is so much support for the list over a forum format (though I obviously respect opposing points of view) . Stupid question: is it possible to have both so that emails sent on a particular subject show up as posts on a thread identified by that subject? Robert H. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I would prefer the list format, kind of used to it after ten plus years Ken Black 35-3 From: Stu via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I like the list--info is pushed to me--no effort on my part. Charlie Nelson 1995 CC 36XL/kcb Water Phantom Sent from my iPad On Mar 14, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The list is the best. That way I know I’ve read everything… Jake From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I am no expert - but believe you have to set up your email account as an IMAP account rather than POP3. With IMAP, the various mail clients are synchronized so that if you delete an email on one device, it is deleted from all. (I have 4 devices from which I can read / send emails - so it was critical for me to have this feature). I don't use gmail - I have my own domain with godaddy and it was not difficult to set the account as IMAP - not sure if gmail can be so easily configured -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Mar 14, 2015, at 21:51, jtsails via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I haven’t mastered how to get gmail to delete posts from my account when I delete them on the computer, but I’m sure there is a setting somewhere! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I'm sure it is. It has had to operate in the shadow of the greatest CC related list for years! On Mar 14, 2015 12:23 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: For anyone that is interested, this is the address for the Yahoo CC group. It is, to be kind, dormant. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CnCSailBoats/info Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 13 March 2015 at 20:30, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Someone mentioned a yahoo group. I am a member of a few and they send messages (e-mails, like this list), but at the same time allow to participate in them like in a Forum (on a web site, following threads, allowing photo albums etc.). I already voted for the list, but possibly that option can be investigated, as well. On the flip side, let's not overestimate the bandwidth required for including the original text. All these messages were in the teens of kB, very tiny compared to the current internet speeds and sizes. Marek *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Brass via CnC-List *Sent:* March-13-15 22:00 *To:* 'Robert Boyer'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum Bob We each have the option to change our email settings so the original message string is not included in the new email when we reply to a message. That would eliminate all the repeated information and the very long message strings that cause so much trouble and band width cost for Stu. Sometimes I like to include all or part of the message to which I am responding, so others will know the context of my email. I find that I am frequently not responding to the last message on a given topic. But, hey, I'm old and forget to delete all the unwanted part of the string. My problem with a forum is that I need to find the time to go look at it and see what is being discussed. Messages from the list, OTOH, are in my inbox and actually give me something to look forward to when I open my email. Rick Brass ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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An important part of the history of the list is the WHY of how it came to be. Originally, Stu's website was photos and scans, etc, and CC owners all followed a list sponsored by Sailnet. Sailnet got sold out from under us, and after a lengthy discussion hauntingly similar to this one, it was decided that no one wanted to move to another group hosted outside of something that one of us owned and could hand off to another member if that ever became necessary. Without this decision, we would have gone in multiple directions and died off as a group. At that time, there were more than one CC forums available. We needed ONE common point of communication in order to keep going. I think the list as it is has worked great, and see no advantage to going to a clumsy forum, that would also be competing with dime-a-dozen facebook groups and other web based options. If Stu is having issues maintaining the list, then lets address those issues rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Bill Bina On 3/14/2015 7:37 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List wrote: Stu, First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list and maintaining it. I am glad this topic has come up. It is somewhat difficult to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already been said. If it could be done, I’d enthusiastically vote for a forum. The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor Harvard. See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/. We have about 6000 residents of which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard. There is no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible. I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for that day. (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.) If you reply to a topic, you’ll automatically get other replies as they occur. There is a method to control who can be a member. You can browse by topic. There is provision to store documents for download and a classified section. If you are interested, I’ll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a ‘neighborhood’ of boat owners. I can also find out from the guy who maintains the forum, what effort is required. Regards, Ron Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Josh, Posting something new requires going online. This ensures starts the topic. Once you get the email notice, you can add to any topic on the notice. You'll also get notice of other replies. While you can keep copies of emails, this forum really needs you to be online to use all the features. I do have copies of emails on my phone but the amount of info kept is limited without an internet connection. I just tried putting my phone in airplane mode and turning off Wi-Fi. There's now nothing available in my gmail 'All Mail'. Ron From: Josh Muckley [mailto:muckl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 8:03 AM To: CC List; Ron Ricci Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum Ron, I understand that you get notices via email but can you participate in the forums via email? For me, the strength of the list is that I don't have to do anything above and beyond checking/reading/sending email. I can control the stream with all of the traditional email routing rules. Users might find it useful to set up a rule which automatically moves ANY email with cnc in the FROM: field into a new folder called CC List. I did this when I started using the list and now it is almost like I have 2 email addresses. I never get CC stuff in my main email stream. I could also turn off the notifications and/or sync for the CC List folder so that I only looked at it when I felt like it not because it kept notifying me. Others have given directions for searching the wealth of knowledge by using some google magic and limiting the search criteria to the cnc-list site. I can't recall the exact syntax. The emails are also kept in my email archives till I delete them. There have been plenty of times I've been able to answer my own questions simply by searching my own email archives...on my phone...without internet access. Josh On Mar 14, 2015 7:37 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stu, First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list and maintaining it. I am glad this topic has come up. It is somewhat difficult to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already been said. If it could be done, I'd enthusiastically vote for a forum. The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor Harvard. See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/. We have about 6000 residents of which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard. There is no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible. I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for that day. (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.) If you reply to a topic, you'll automatically get other replies as they occur. There is a method to control who can be a member. You can browse by topic. There is provision to store documents for download and a classified section. If you are interested, I'll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a 'neighborhood' of boat owners. I can also find out from the guy who maintains the forum, what effort is required. Regards, Ron Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com ron.ri...@1968.usna.com _ List On Mar 13, 2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom
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Ron, I understand that you get notices via email but can you participate in the forums via email? For me, the strength of the list is that I don't have to do anything above and beyond checking/reading/sending email. I can control the stream with all of the traditional email routing rules. Users might find it useful to set up a rule which automatically moves ANY email with cnc in the FROM: field into a new folder called CC List. I did this when I started using the list and now it is almost like I have 2 email addresses. I never get CC stuff in my main email stream. I could also turn off the notifications and/or sync for the CC List folder so that I only looked at it when I felt like it not because it kept notifying me. Others have given directions for searching the wealth of knowledge by using some google magic and limiting the search criteria to the cnc-list site. I can't recall the exact syntax. The emails are also kept in my email archives till I delete them. There have been plenty of times I've been able to answer my own questions simply by searching my own email archives...on my phone...without internet access. Josh On Mar 14, 2015 7:37 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stu, First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list and maintaining it. I am glad this topic has come up. It is somewhat difficult to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already been said. If it could be done, I'd enthusiastically vote for a forum. The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor Harvard. See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/. We have about 6000 residents of which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard. There is no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible. I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for that day. (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.) If you reply to a topic, you'll automatically get other replies as they occur. There is a method to control who can be a member. You can browse by topic. There is provision to store documents for download and a classified section. If you are interested, I'll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a 'neighborhood' of boat owners. I can also find out from the guy who maintains the forum, what effort is required. Regards, *Ron* Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI ron.ri...@1968.usna.com -- List On Mar 13, 2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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There is or was an archive, but since I've been here from the start I just use Microsoft Outlook and store all my emails in yearly files. It is easy to set up an email rule that directs all cnc list mail to a separate folder, as others have mentioned. Steve - Original Message - From: Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 08:58 Subject: Stus-List email list or forum i'm new to this list, but have found it frustrating to try to search for subject matter, rather than re-asking the same questions over and over again, until someone posted how to search from google. I'm somewhat less frustrated now and find the list easier to use. In my experience the forum format has been easier. thanks Brad 1985 CC 33 MK II ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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BTW - The most CC like forum I know of is the Moyer Marine Atomic 4 forum. They have friendly people, support the Atomic 4 very well, and keep the flames, trolls, and spammers off. They OWN THE FORUM, it is not a hosted by Google/Yahoo/Facebook/etc. I run a website for a flying event http://www.tangierhollyrun.com/ and I totally gave up on a forum. I either had to spend time approving users or it got totally taken over by Nigerian Royalty with banking issues. We reverted to an email list that exists for pilots in the DC area. They also debated going Forum and stayed with email. BTW - I am in mailing list hell with a group for flying amateur radio operators. I started it on Yahoo a very long time ago - maybe the mid/late 90s, and it pretty much died by the year 2000. In 2014 a bunch of spammers got on somehow and I cannot kill the list. Whatever email address I had back then is long gone and Yahoo WILL NOT let me access the list controls anymore. There is literally no way I can kill it. We need to OWN the means of production here, if I can apply Marxist theory to emails. Joe Della Barba Coquina ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Stu, First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list and maintaining it. I am glad this topic has come up. It is somewhat difficult to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already been said. If it could be done, I'd enthusiastically vote for a forum. The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor Harvard. See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/. We have about 6000 residents of which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard. There is no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible. I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for that day. (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.) If you reply to a topic, you'll automatically get other replies as they occur. There is a method to control who can be a member. You can browse by topic. There is provision to store documents for download and a classified section. If you are interested, I'll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a 'neighborhood' of boat owners. I can also find out from the guy who maintains the forum, what effort is required. Regards, Ron Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com ron.ri...@1968.usna.com _ List On Mar 13, 2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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An important part of the history of the list is the WHY of how it came to be. Originally, Stu's website was photos and scans, etc, and CC owners all followed a list sponsored by Sailnet. Sailnet got sold out from under us, and after a lengthy discussion hauntingly similar to this one, it was decided that no one wanted to move to another group hosted outside of something that one of us owned and could hand off to another member if that ever became necessary. Without this decision, we would have gone in multiple directions and died off as a group. At that time, there were more than one CC forums available. We needed ONE common point of communication in order to keep going. I think the list as it is has worked great, and see no advantage to going to a clumsy forum, that would also be competing with dime-a-dozen facebook groups and other web based options. If Stu is having issues maintaining the list, then lets address those issues rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Bill Bina On 3/14/2015 7:37 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List wrote: Stu, First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list and maintaining it. I am glad this topic has come up. It is somewhat difficult to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already been said. If it could be done, I’d enthusiastically vote for a forum. The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor Harvard. See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/. We have about 6000 residents of which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard. There is no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible. I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for that day. (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.) If you reply to a topic, you’ll automatically get other replies as they occur. There is a method to control who can be a member. You can browse by topic. There is provision to store documents for download and a classified section. If you are interested, I’ll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a ‘neighborhood’ of boat owners. I can also find out from the guy who maintains the forum, what effort is required. Regards, /Ron/ Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI ron.ri...@1968.usna.com mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I like the list. I am on several forums for antique motorcycles, 5th wheels and super duty trucks. I find that I really don't follow those forums as much as I do our list. Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (CC 35, Mark I) Corsair Thawing in the beautiful harbor of South Haven, Michigan ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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List please. The list is easier for me to access on my phone underway. Forums have HUGE problems with spam and trolls. Most of us are on one or more sailing forums anyway. They have their place, but something about the forums seems to generate trolling and flame wars in a way this list never does. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List email list or forum
i'm new to this list, but have found it frustrating to try to search for subject matter, rather than re-asking the same questions over and over again, until someone posted how to search from google. I'm somewhat less frustrated now and find the list easier to use. In my experience the forum format has been easier. thanks Brad 1985 CC 33 MK II Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List email list or forum now spring garage sale
No matter what form it takes, I think we can all agree that the list/photo album makes owning an old CC much better than most other types. I have some thru-hulls sitting around that have never been used. I'll find a good one and pick a good price for it. Someone can send the money straight to Stu and I'll mail it to you. I'll post some details when I dig it out. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I vote list. I am on a whole passel of forums and although I like them just fine, if I have to remember yet another forum name and password sequence to log in with I’ll shoot myself… I have an all Mac, all the time” setup and my CC list emails use a Apple account conditional rule to shunt off to a CC folder. There the emails are grouped by subject and I can open that grouping up and pick and chose. Pretty bog standard email software. Forums are great but I think that they need a critical mass to be effective. This list isn’t really that large given the number of regular responders and for me has a nice feel to it. With only a few voices in the forum it might seem kinda empty. Although, the thought of a dedicated forum category labeled “Foredeck Cow” has a certain appeal to it… Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ On Mar 14, 2015, at 8:02 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Ron, I understand that you get notices via email but can you participate in the forums via email? For me, the strength of the list is that I don't have to do anything above and beyond checking/reading/sending email. I can control the stream with all of the traditional email routing rules. Users might find it useful to set up a rule which automatically moves ANY email with cnc in the FROM: field into a new folder called CC List. I did this when I started using the list and now it is almost like I have 2 email addresses. I never get CC stuff in my main email stream. I could also turn off the notifications and/or sync for the CC List folder so that I only looked at it when I felt like it not because it kept notifying me. Others have given directions for searching the wealth of knowledge by using some google magic and limiting the search criteria to the cnc-list site. I can't recall the exact syntax. The emails are also kept in my email archives till I delete them. There have been plenty of times I've been able to answer my own questions simply by searching my own email archives...on my phone...without internet access. Josh On Mar 14, 2015 7:37 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stu, First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list and maintaining it. I am glad this topic has come up. It is somewhat difficult to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already been said. If it could be done, I’d enthusiastically vote for a forum. The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor Harvard. See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/ https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/. We have about 6000 residents of which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard. There is no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible. I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for that day. (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.) If you reply to a topic, you’ll automatically get other replies as they occur. There is a method to control who can be a member. You can browse by topic. There is provision to store documents for download and a classified section. If you are interested, I’ll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a ‘neighborhood’ of boat owners. I can also find out from the guy who maintains the forum, what effort is required. Regards, Ron Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI ron.ri...@1968.usna.com mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com List On Mar 13, 2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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The list is the best. That way I know I’ve read everything… Jake From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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4) We would need a forum for removal of Marvel Mystery oil from various appendages… :^) I, for one, would hate to see Wal go elsewhere... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 14, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I vote list. 1) Sometimes I can't get good web access on the boat. 2) More importantly, the forum format makes it easy to ignore topics, and I learn a lot listening to folks with problems/solutions that don't initially seem to be relevant. 3) We would need a forum for drunken rants. Wal ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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That's already been addressed. In short, yes. Almost all forums have a means for the users to be updated via email. Individuals can usually select what triggers an email notification. The thing that sets the forum apart (and is undesirable) is that a response to a post would still require logging into the forum. Josh On Mar 14, 2015 12:54 PM, RPH via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am a relative newbie here, but I would very much prefer a FORUM and I would certainly make a donation to help cover the costs. Frankly, I am a little surprised that there is so much support for the list over a forum format (though I obviously respect opposing points of view) . Stupid question: is it possible to have both so that emails sent on a particular subject show up as posts on a thread identified by that subject? Robert H. Original message From: Linda via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 03-14-2015 9:28 AM (GMT-08:00) To: s...@cncphotoalbum.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum FORUM On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:32:12 -0400 Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com writes: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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You, kind of, have it already - in the archives. Marek From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RPH via CnC-List Sent: March-14-15 12:54 To: airdale...@juno.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum I am a relative newbie here, but I would very much prefer a FORUM and I would certainly make a donation to help cover the costs. Frankly, I am a little surprised that there is so much support for the list over a forum format (though I obviously respect opposing points of view) . Stupid question: is it possible to have both so that emails sent on a particular subject show up as posts on a thread identified by that subject? Robert H. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I agree. I don't fully understand nor pertisapate, I don't want to start a conversation that the guy's just had a few weeks back. So I find me self using Sailnet, salty south east cruiser net. On Mar 14, 2015 8:59 AM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: i'm new to this list, but have found it frustrating to try to search for subject matter, rather than re-asking the same questions over and over again, until someone posted how to search from google. I'm somewhat less frustrated now and find the list easier to use. In my experience the forum format has been easier. thanks Brad 1985 CC 33 MK II Sent, miraculously through cyberspace, from my iPad! ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Joe makes a very good point here Marek "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"wrote:___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I for one do not mind the same questions or conversations being reposted. I like watching the conversations to pick up tidbits from those on the list far more experienced / skilled than I. And working on the just in time principle, someone invariably posts a relevant question just as I am about to - or should - undertake a project or maintenance activity. I probably don't know enough about how forums work, but I personally like the ability to quickly browse unread email strings from the list to see which I want to read. I doubt if I would go to a forum except when I needed something from the group - and if others' actions are similar, the numbers and qualities of responses to any questions posed could be much reduced. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:07, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I don't want to start a conversation that the guy's just had a few weeks back. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I am a relative newbie here, but I would very much prefer a FORUM and I would certainly make a donation to help cover the costs. Frankly, I am a little surprised that there is so much support for the list over a forum format (though I obviously respect opposing points of view) . Stupid question: is it possible to have both so that emails sent on a particular subject show up as posts on a thread identified by that subject? Robert H. Original message From: Linda via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 03-14-2015 9:28 AM (GMT-08:00) To: s...@cncphotoalbum.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum FORUM On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:32:12 -0400 Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com writes: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I vote list. 1) Sometimes I can't get good web access on the boat. 2) More importantly, the forum format makes it easy to ignore topics, and I learn a lot listening to folks with problems/solutions that don't initially seem to be relevant. 3) We would need a forum for drunken rants. Wal ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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As a technical reference I like how a closed forum works. Who knows, I may need to look up the best way to clean off Marvel Mystery Oil someday. For the mix of technical, QA, social and banter the email digest works well for me. I do tend to read in batches, sometimes days apart, so end up responding to things late. I would contribute to adding a forum to the CNC site. The key points for me would be: - simple password protection for at least posting - ability to upload reasonable sized photos - optional configurable email notification when something is posted - ability to update / edit / add to something like a technical document I understand this has some overlap with the existing website. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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FORUM On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:32:12 -0400 Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com writes: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a �Forum� similar to �cruisersforum� or �sailnet� instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation � I�ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line � would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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just another option. As someone else said, a Forum might be easier to search, but we can never have enough threards about window replacements! I'm in a Google Group foe CHESS - Chesapeake Bay Shrt Handed Sailing - and it seems to work well, although yahoo mail users seems to have trouble. Joel -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I like the email list, too. I never understood the appeal of the list digest, other than reducing the number of emails received in a day. I’d rather watch the email threads as they unfold. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 13, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I agree with Dennis C and what seems to be the majority, I prefer the list. Unless a forum format would be easier for you, Stu. Rick Brass Washington, NC ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Hi, Bob — I, too, am a Mac/iOS guy. The easiest way to do this, and I just did it with your message, is to highlight the text in the original email before you hit the “reply” button; then only the text you highlighted will be quoted in the reply. It works great! — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 13, 2015, at 9:00 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: My iPhone and my iPad have been set to thread view and it doesn't eliminate the copied text. However, if there is a setting in an email account that eliminates copied text, I'd be interested in hearing about it. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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If we had a Forum, odds are I never would have even seen this question. Stu does a great job and we have a wonderful community here. My only gripe is that some listers don't remember to trip their posts...but I can live with that. But if we are going to abandon the list, maybe we should do. a Twitter hashtag instead... :D Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 CC 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 On Mar 14, 2015, at 9:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Message: 8 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:51:53 -0500 From: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net To: Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum Message-ID: 85fffde8-d750-4f73-8141-6c7aea8ee...@postaudio.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I like the email list, too. I never understood the appeal of the list digest, other than reducing the number of emails received in a day. I?d rather watch the email threads as they unfold. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 13, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I agree with Dennis C and what seems to be the majority, I prefer the list. Unless a forum format would be easier for you, Stu. Rick Brass Washington, NC ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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List. Gary - Original Message - From: John Irvin via CnC-List To: Dennis C. ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum I'd stay with the list, Stu You never know what you're going t learn and it's easy to delete what doesn't interest you. I am grateful for the every time I access it. Many thanks. -- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: 2015-03-13 6:16 PM To: Stu; CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum 1) I can set my email to thread view. No advantage for me to go to forum. 2) How mobile friendly would forum be? I read a lot of the list mails on my smartphone. I'm old and don't like change. Slight preference to maintain current system. Dennis C. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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list Gark Kolc Liberty Apponaug Harbor Warwick RI Neil Gallagher via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Vote: List Stu, if the costs are not covered routinely by donations, I suggest you let us know that too. Neil Gallagher Weatherly, 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 3/13/2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation -- I've done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line -- would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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We vote list and a great big thank you to Stu for keeping this going. To make things easier we have OUTLOOK rule set so anything from list goes to its own folder which is then arranged by conversation. We also have a separate folder to receive posts we want to keep for future reference. Typically check once a day. Easy to read, then delete all I don’t want. Also, doesn’t the photo album keep posts in a forum format as well?? John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 CC 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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List. Sent from my iPad On Mar 14, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Linda via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: emails. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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List On Mar 13, 2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I'm easy either way. I'll go with the majority. sam :-) On 2015-03-13, at 3:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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HI Stu, List please. This list feels more like family than any forum I used to visit. I say, ...used to visit. 'cause somehow I just drift away from them eventually. It's so much nicer when the messages come to me. (Even the hundred or more after a vacation :) Cheers, Russ At 02:32 PM 13/03/2015, you wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a âForumâ similar to âcruisersforumâ or âsailnetâ instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation Iâve done it before and it does takee some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Vote: List Stu, if the costs are not covered routinely by donations, I suggest you let us know that too. Neil Gallagher Weatherly, 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 3/13/2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation -- I've done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line -- would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Yes, people can customize how they receive emails in ways to make them more convenient. Ed Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com wrote: I guess it has never bothered me cause my gmail and Gmail client auto hide the quoted text AND they auto group emails with the same subject. It's not always necessary but sometimes it is nice to be able to see what exact referance someone was making simply by looking at the quoted text. I like the fact that I don't have to go to a forum app or website to see the message stream or to participate. I like being able to quickly and easily take the conversion of list and then back again without leaving the email client. I like how lightweight and ubiquitous email is. No fancy graphics to take up bandwidth. Maybe people think it's creepy but I like that we all have each others email and can easily contact one another with something off list via email if needed. Edd with Star Trek stuff, Fred with electronics questions, Joel for offshore races and Jake for a fix from a Midnight Mistress. Warm regards to all, Josh Muckley PS: Just so you all know to what I'm refering I've quoted the text from the previous email. On Mar 13, 2015 8:56 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stu's original listing was copied and resent 11 times in 12 messages! Does everyone really like this? It is completely unnecessary and would probably be eliminated in a forum format. That's really the primary change--the people would be the same. Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Bob We each have the option to change our email settings so the original message string is not included in the new email when we reply to a message. That would eliminate all the repeated information and the very long message strings that cause so much trouble and band width cost for Stu. Sometimes I like to include all or part of the message to which I am responding, so others will know the context of my email. I find that I am frequently not responding to the last message on a given topic. But, hey, I’m old and forget to delete all the unwanted part of the string. My problem with a forum is that I need to find the time to go look at it and see what is being discussed. Messages from the list, OTOH, are in my inbox and actually give me something to look forward to when I open my email. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Boyer via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:56 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Stu's original listing was copied and resent 11 times in 12 messages! It is completely unnecessary and would probably be eliminated in a forum format. ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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In a forum you can make your individual settings such that postings on a topic you are subscribed to will be emailed to you when each posting is made. I think you can respond to the posting on a forum via email, so I don't understand how it would leave Wally out of the picture. The forum would have a lot better search features. My iPhone and my iPad have been set to thread view and it doesn't eliminate the copied text. However, if there is a setting in an email account that eliminates copied text, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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The pros for a forum are what Stu said. A few major pros for the list are that it can be viewed on any platform, can be read off-line, requires much less bandwidth etc. I would say that it works fine, as is. Marek From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt Stratton via CnC-List Sent: March-13-15 19:06 To: 'Stu'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum Stu, the list is far better than any forum I have “joined” but if the forum is easier for you I would support it From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I guess it has never bothered me cause my gmail and Gmail client auto hide the quoted text AND they auto group emails with the same subject. It's not always necessary but sometimes it is nice to be able to see what exact referance someone was making simply by looking at the quoted text. I like the fact that I don't have to go to a forum app or website to see the message stream or to participate. I like being able to quickly and easily take the conversion of list and then back again without leaving the email client. I like how lightweight and ubiquitous email is. No fancy graphics to take up bandwidth. Maybe people think it's creepy but I like that we all have each others email and can easily contact one another with something off list via email if needed. Edd with Star Trek stuff, Fred with electronics questions, Joel for offshore races and Jake for a fix from a Midnight Mistress. Warm regards to all, Josh Muckley PS: Just so you all know to what I'm refering I've quoted the text from the previous email. On Mar 13, 2015 8:56 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stu's original listing was copied and resent 11 times in 12 messages! Does everyone really like this? It is completely unnecessary and would probably be eliminated in a forum format. That's really the primary change--the people would be the same. Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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For the same reasons as Josh (and probably many others) my Gmail and Gmail client auto hide the quoted text AND they auto group emails with the same subject. Perhaps some of you just need a better email client. I'm good with the list. Ken H. On 13 March 2015 at 21:46, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I much prefer a forum! It would end the repeated copying of text and resending it over and over. I've read the notice to mariners about ice on the northern Chesapeake Bay about 10 times now because listers think they have to copy it I guess so that everyone knows what they are responding to. There are pages and pages of unnecessary repeated information on this list. On a forum, the discussion would be on a topic and it would just flow like a conversation. As far as I'm concerned, a forum is a lot better. Just google cruisers forum and look at their format... Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Someone mentioned a yahoo group. I am a member of a few and they send messages (e-mails, like this list), but at the same time allow to participate in them like in a Forum (on a web site, following threads, allowing photo albums etc.). I already voted for the list, but possibly that option can be investigated, as well. On the flip side, let's not overestimate the bandwidth required for including the original text. All these messages were in the teens of kB, very tiny compared to the current internet speeds and sizes. Marek From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: March-13-15 22:00 To: 'Robert Boyer'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum Bob We each have the option to change our email settings so the original message string is not included in the new email when we reply to a message. That would eliminate all the repeated information and the very long message strings that cause so much trouble and band width cost for Stu. Sometimes I like to include all or part of the message to which I am responding, so others will know the context of my email. I find that I am frequently not responding to the last message on a given topic. But, hey, I’m old and forget to delete all the unwanted part of the string. My problem with a forum is that I need to find the time to go look at it and see what is being discussed. Messages from the list, OTOH, are in my inbox and actually give me something to look forward to when I open my email. Rick Brass ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Excellent point Danny! On Mar 13, 2015 9:04 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: As I recall, Wally can't do the forum. That alone is reason enough fur me to vote email list Danny From my Android phone Original message From: Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 03/13/2015 5:36 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum I'm easy either way. I'll go with the majority. sam :-) On 2015-03-13, at 3:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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For anyone that is interested, this is the address for the Yahoo CC group. It is, to be kind, dormant. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CnCSailBoats/info Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 13 March 2015 at 20:30, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Someone mentioned a yahoo group. I am a member of a few and they send messages (e-mails, like this list), but at the same time allow to participate in them like in a Forum (on a web site, following threads, allowing photo albums etc.). I already voted for the list, but possibly that option can be investigated, as well. On the flip side, let's not overestimate the bandwidth required for including the original text. All these messages were in the teens of kB, very tiny compared to the current internet speeds and sizes. Marek *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Brass via CnC-List *Sent:* March-13-15 22:00 *To:* 'Robert Boyer'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum Bob We each have the option to change our email settings so the original message string is not included in the new email when we reply to a message. That would eliminate all the repeated information and the very long message strings that cause so much trouble and band width cost for Stu. Sometimes I like to include all or part of the message to which I am responding, so others will know the context of my email. I find that I am frequently not responding to the last message on a given topic. But, hey, I’m old and forget to delete all the unwanted part of the string. My problem with a forum is that I need to find the time to go look at it and see what is being discussed. Messages from the list, OTOH, are in my inbox and actually give me something to look forward to when I open my email. Rick Brass ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Sounds like a couple big “ifs” out there, but assuming the cost and maintenance headache is less for Stu, I’ll vote forum From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:32 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I'd stay with the list, Stu You never know what you're going t learn and it's easy to delete what doesn't interest you. I am grateful for the every time I access it. Many thanks. -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: 2015-03-13 6:16 PM To: Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com; CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum 1) I can set my email to thread view. No advantage for me to go to forum. 2) How mobile friendly would forum be? I read a lot of the list mails on my smartphone. I'm old and don't like change. Slight preference to maintain current system. Dennis C. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I prefer the list. There are plenty of forums. This list is different / better because of the CC focus and limited participation (not invaded by non CC owners and alumni). Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 2:32 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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List Don Life On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Mike Brannon via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: List. Sent from my iPad Mini On Mar 13, 2015, at 17:32, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I prefer the list, but if the question was existential, a forum would be better than nothing. Steve Thomas - Original Message - From: Stu via CnC-List To: CC Email List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 17:32 Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I'm happy with the list as well. Sent from my iPad On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would vote list. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'm with Dennis ... Old and like email ! Paul. :) On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: 1) I can set my email to thread view. No advantage for me to go to forum. 2) How mobile friendly would forum be? I read a lot of the list mails on my smartphone. I'm old and don't like change. Slight preference to maintain current system. Dennis C. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I much prefer a forum! It would end the repeated copying of text and resending it over and over. I've read the notice to mariners about ice on the northern Chesapeake Bay about 10 times now because listers think they have to copy it I guess so that everyone knows what they are responding to. There are pages and pages of unnecessary repeated information on this list. On a forum, the discussion would be on a topic and it would just flow like a conversation. As far as I'm concerned, a forum is a lot better. Just google cruisers forum and look at their format... Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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As I recall, Wally can't do the forum. That alone is reason enough fur me to vote email list Danny From my Android phone Original message From: Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 03/13/2015 5:36 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum I'm easy either way. I'll go with the majority. sam :-) On 2015-03-13, at 3:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I'm with Dennis ... Old and like email ! Paul. :) On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: 1) I can set my email to thread view. No advantage for me to go to forum. 2) How mobile friendly would forum be? I read a lot of the list mails on my smartphone. I'm old and don't like change. Slight preference to maintain current system. Dennis C. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I agree with Dennis C and what seems to be the majority, I prefer the list. Unless a forum format would be easier for you, Stu. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 7:24 PM To: Paul Fountain; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum I would vote list. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com http://www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'm with Dennis ... Old and like email ! Paul. :) On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: 1) I can set my email to thread view. No advantage for me to go to forum. 2) How mobile friendly would forum be? I read a lot of the list mails on my smartphone. I'm old and don't like change. Slight preference to maintain current system. Dennis C. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum
1) I can set my email to thread view. No advantage for me to go to forum. 2) How mobile friendly would forum be? I read a lot of the list mails on my smartphone. I'm old and don't like change. Slight preference to maintain current system. Dennis C. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Stu, the list is far better than any forum I have “joined” but if the forum is easier for you I would support it From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I would vote list. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 6 iPhone. iTypos. iApologize On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'm with Dennis ... Old and like email ! Paul. :) On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: 1) I can set my email to thread view. No advantage for me to go to forum. 2) How mobile friendly would forum be? I read a lot of the list mails on my smartphone. I'm old and don't like change. Slight preference to maintain current system. Dennis C. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Email List or Forum
Stu's original listing was copied and resent 11 times in 12 messages! Does everyone really like this? It is completely unnecessary and would probably be eliminated in a forum format. That's really the primary change--the people would be the same. Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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List. Sent from my iPad Mini On Mar 13, 2015, at 17:32, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like this one). PROS: 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails. 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads. 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums. 5. Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked. 6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit. CONS: 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional enhancements. 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. () 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection. Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It does not matter to me. Stu ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com