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I just bought Lithium batteries for my drills. The difference in battery life and charging time is AMAZING. I would not even consider a non-lithium tool now. I have a Ryobi drill and cutting tool on the boat and a Sears drill at home both with the upgraded batteries. The Ryobi is a better drill except the original NiCad battery pack was worthless. Coquina Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Graham Yes I have bolt cutters that are normally on board and were always on our J27 Nut Case. For some reason they are still on my work bench at home though ... As for weight .. we just removed electric winches and replaced with Lewmar ST 40 manual winches. Was not about the weight though but these things are very heavy! Someone else wanted them and they were completely out of place on our boat and actually a hinderance for sail handling when racing (used as manuals but very stiff). We just finished our Wednesday Spring series and are moving back to the CC 115 Koobalibra for next week. Now I am allowed to put the BBQ, Bimini, Dodger and the other fun things back aboard. Talk of baking cookies and grilling something during the Harbour Race in two weeks. Mike Persistence .. done racing til Fall Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham Collins via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Graham Collins Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Hey Mike So if your mast breaks how do you cut the rigging away? If you had a bolt cutter on board you'd be set for that risk, plus it would make it easier to break into my boat to steal my socket set. Sorry, borrow... :-) I'm all about having too many tools on board, just not electric ones. A friend insisted we clear out the boat prior to a race, it was an illuminating experience. I managed to talk her out of removing the windlass though. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-17 10:33 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: When I need sockets I just motor a quarter mile down the NW Arm to where I know there is a 260 piece socket set.. Seriously though. In 2009 was doing a home project and purchased a Ryobi 9v and then found a DeWalt 12v on sale. Used both drills while installing new flooring that had to be screwed every 6 inches (for under tile) and would swap one dewalt battery while other charging and then use the ryobi while both those charging. The Ryobi would last only a very short time and has long since been scrapped. The 12v DeWalt has been used for many projects and the first battery started not holding much charge last Spring while the second is still fine. The 12v DeWalt has been a great drill for me (this past December replaced with 18v DeWalt). Nothing but good to say about it and it was NiCad I do not leave a drill on the boat. I have a smallish toolbox with 6 screwdrivers (2 phillips, 2 robertson, two slot), one multhead screw driver, a couple pair of various pliers, a couple adjustable wrenches, allan keys and a pair of vice grips .. as well as pne hammer (don't know why). Also a smallish socket set. As I said - if I need more sockets I know where Graham is moored I do believe you need tools aboard because things break on boats ... and also you never know on a boat when the mood will hit you to take on some small task which always turns out to be a much bigger job than expected. Mike Persistence Just up the NW Arm from Graham's boat in Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Martin DeYoung Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill ... What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? Ever since cordless drill batteries size and performance became reasonably useful (mid-80's?) I carry one on any trip longer than a day sail and especially offshore. Used for repairs, both drilling holes and removing/installing fasteners they earn their keep. If you purchase L-Ion batteries and travel with your equipment, the US airlines are now restricting L-Ion batteries to carry on, not to be in checked luggage. This includes spare cell phone and laptop batteries. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stevan Plavsa Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Speaking for myself I bought the ryobi because I saw the deal and I'm on a wet mooring. Rowing my tools out kinda sucks to be honest so I keep a set on board. Also, time is money right? Inevitably I forget to bring something. If it's all on board I'm good. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
Hey Mike So if your mast breaks how do you cut the rigging away? If you had a bolt cutter on board you'd be set for that risk, plus it would make it easier to break into my boat to steal my socket set. Sorry, borrow... :-) I'm all about having too many tools on board, just not electric ones. A friend insisted we clear out the boat prior to a race, it was an illuminating experience. I managed to talk her out of removing the windlass though. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-17 10:33 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: When I need sockets I just motor a quarter mile down the NW Arm to where I know there is a 260 piece socket set…… Seriously though. In 2009 was doing a home project and purchased a Ryobi 9v and then found a DeWalt 12v on sale. Used both drills while installing new flooring that had to be screwed every 6 inches (for under tile) and would swap one dewalt battery while other charging and then use the ryobi while both those charging. The Ryobi would last only a very short time and has long since been scrapped. The 12v DeWalt has been used for many projects and the first battery started not holding much charge last Spring while the second is still fine. The 12v DeWalt has been a great drill for me (this past December replaced with 18v DeWalt). Nothing but good to say about it and it was NiCad I do not leave a drill on the boat. I have a smallish toolbox with 6 screwdrivers (2 phillips, 2 robertson, two slot), one multhead screw driver, a couple pair of various pliers, a couple adjustable wrenches, allan keys and a pair of vice grips .. as well as pne hammer (don’t know why). Also a smallish socket set. As I said – if I need more sockets I know where Graham is moored I do believe you need tools aboard because things break on boats … and also you never know on a boat when the mood will hit you to take on some small task which always turns out to be a much bigger job than expected. Mike Persistence Just up the NW Arm from Graham’s boat in Halifax *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin DeYoung via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:51 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Martin DeYoung *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill … What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? Ever since cordless drill batteries size and performance became reasonably useful (mid-80’s?) I carry one on any trip longer than a day sail and especially offshore. Used for repairs, both drilling holes and removing/installing fasteners they earn their keep. If you purchase L-Ion batteries and travel with your equipment, the US airlines are now restricting L-Ion batteries to carry on, not to be in checked luggage. This includes spare cell phone and laptop batteries. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:58 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Stevan Plavsa *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Speaking for myself I bought the ryobi because I saw the deal and I'm on a wet mooring. Rowing my tools out kinda sucks to be honest so I keep a set on board. Also, time is money right? Inevitably I forget to bring something. If it's all on board I'm good. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. It isn't like I'm off cruising for a week and suddenly it occurs to me that I should install some new deck hardware. And if it did I've got an old school hand drill that will do a few holes quite easily. I will admit, after being this sanctimonious, that I do have a 260 piece socket set on board. And yes, I only use 5 sockets from it. :-) Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 6:01 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a charge. At home I use a Bosch set that's proven to be very reliable, lots of use over four years including lots of masonry (hammer) and even work on the car with the driver. Ten years ago they would have likely been nicad batteries and those really did suck. The current gen of lithium ion powered stuff is great as far as I can tell. Steve
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
When I need sockets I just motor a quarter mile down the NW Arm to where I know there is a 260 piece socket set…… Seriously though. In 2009 was doing a home project and purchased a Ryobi 9v and then found a DeWalt 12v on sale. Used both drills while installing new flooring that had to be screwed every 6 inches (for under tile) and would swap one dewalt battery while other charging and then use the ryobi while both those charging. The Ryobi would last only a very short time and has long since been scrapped. The 12v DeWalt has been used for many projects and the first battery started not holding much charge last Spring while the second is still fine. The 12v DeWalt has been a great drill for me (this past December replaced with 18v DeWalt). Nothing but good to say about it and it was NiCad I do not leave a drill on the boat. I have a smallish toolbox with 6 screwdrivers (2 phillips, 2 robertson, two slot), one multhead screw driver, a couple pair of various pliers, a couple adjustable wrenches, allan keys and a pair of vice grips .. as well as pne hammer (don’t know why). Also a smallish socket set. As I said – if I need more sockets I know where Graham is moored I do believe you need tools aboard because things break on boats … and also you never know on a boat when the mood will hit you to take on some small task which always turns out to be a much bigger job than expected. Mike Persistence Just up the NW Arm from Graham’s boat in Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Martin DeYoung Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill … What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? Ever since cordless drill batteries size and performance became reasonably useful (mid-80’s?) I carry one on any trip longer than a day sail and especially offshore. Used for repairs, both drilling holes and removing/installing fasteners they earn their keep. If you purchase L-Ion batteries and travel with your equipment, the US airlines are now restricting L-Ion batteries to carry on, not to be in checked luggage. This includes spare cell phone and laptop batteries. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stevan Plavsa Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Speaking for myself I bought the ryobi because I saw the deal and I'm on a wet mooring. Rowing my tools out kinda sucks to be honest so I keep a set on board. Also, time is money right? Inevitably I forget to bring something. If it's all on board I'm good. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. It isn't like I'm off cruising for a week and suddenly it occurs to me that I should install some new deck hardware. And if it did I've got an old school hand drill that will do a few holes quite easily. I will admit, after being this sanctimonious, that I do have a 260 piece socket set on board. And yes, I only use 5 sockets from it. :-) Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 6:01 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a charge. At home I use a Bosch set that's proven to be very reliable, lots of use over four years including lots of masonry (hammer) and even work on the car with the driver. Ten years ago they would have likely been nicad batteries and those really did suck. The current gen of lithium ion powered stuff is great as far as I can tell. Steve Suhana, CC32 Toronto ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I’ll second Dennis’ recommendation! Have the Makita 18v, and it is a work horse, both at home and on the boat. Paul Fountain From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:49 AM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill John, Take this for what it's worth. I use a cordless drill a lot when working on boats and around the house. After my buddies and I soured on Dewalt cordless drills due to short battery lives, I looked hard. I'm a big fan of Dewalt and Bosch corded tools but found their reviews a bit low. My selection criteria included torque/power, weight and reliability. The weight was related to the fact that I frequently install hardware on mastheads. Holding a drill above my head while drilling down into a masthead was a concern. After a lot of research and reading reviews, I narrowed my selection down to two brands, Metabo and Makita. The Metabo is very pricey so my buddy and I bought Makita 18V drills. We have had excellent experience with them. I highly recommend the Makita 18V cordless drill. I would suggest you look at 18 volt rather than 12 volt. Someday you'll need the extra power. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I can understand why you would think you want a 12v drill. You think it will be cheaper, lighter, and smaller. That being said, I love my 18v Makita (white and black). Maybe a little bulkier than I'd like for the boat but it has never let me down. On Jun 16, 2015 11:49 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: John, Take this for what it's worth. I use a cordless drill a lot when working on boats and around the house. After my buddies and I soured on Dewalt cordless drills due to short battery lives, I looked hard. I'm a big fan of Dewalt and Bosch corded tools but found their reviews a bit low. My selection criteria included torque/power, weight and reliability. The weight was related to the fact that I frequently install hardware on mastheads. Holding a drill above my head while drilling down into a masthead was a concern. After a lot of research and reading reviews, I narrowed my selection down to two brands, Metabo and Makita. The Metabo is very pricey so my buddy and I bought Makita 18V drills. We have had excellent experience with them. I highly recommend the Makita 18V cordless drill. I would suggest you look at 18 volt rather than 12 volt. Someday you'll need the extra power. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
I would change course, and go for an 18 volt, 1/2 inch Ryobi with one of the new lightweight lithium Ion batteries. They are variable speed, and those new batteries run a LONG time on a charge, and then charge back up in an hour. Plug the 110 volt charger into an inverter when onboard, or get two batteries and rotate them from home. You'll be getting so much more tool than anything like what you described can provide. Bill Bina On 6/16/2015 11:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill
John, Take this for what it's worth. I use a cordless drill a lot when working on boats and around the house. After my buddies and I soured on Dewalt cordless drills due to short battery lives, I looked hard. I'm a big fan of Dewalt and Bosch corded tools but found their reviews a bit low. My selection criteria included torque/power, weight and reliability. The weight was related to the fact that I frequently install hardware on mastheads. Holding a drill above my head while drilling down into a masthead was a concern. After a lot of research and reading reviews, I narrowed my selection down to two brands, Metabo and Makita. The Metabo is very pricey so my buddy and I bought Makita 18V drills. We have had excellent experience with them. I highly recommend the Makita 18V cordless drill. I would suggest you look at 18 volt rather than 12 volt. Someday you'll need the extra power. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I use a few cordless drills. Wore out a couple of old Makita 9v units and now have a Porter Cable 18v. With a charger and two batteries. It is not lithium ion so is rather heavy. For light duty, I have a BD 9.9v unit which is handy and light but you have to plug the charging cord into the drill to charge the battery even though it is removable, so you can't do a quick switch. I second the recommendations for 18v and lithium ion. I would forget the 12v cig. lighter plug and go for a charger and two batteries, so you can swap them out. Inverter would be nice if you don't want to cart a battery back and forth and don't have shore power. Gary Nylander - Original Message - From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List To: CC List Cc: Josh Muckley Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill I can understand why you would think you want a 12v drill. You think it will be cheaper, lighter, and smaller. That being said, I love my 18v Makita (white and black). Maybe a little bulkier than I'd like for the boat but it has never let me down. On Jun 16, 2015 11:49 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: John, Take this for what it's worth. I use a cordless drill a lot when working on boats and around the house. After my buddies and I soured on Dewalt cordless drills due to short battery lives, I looked hard. I'm a big fan of Dewalt and Bosch corded tools but found their reviews a bit low. My selection criteria included torque/power, weight and reliability. The weight was related to the fact that I frequently install hardware on mastheads. Holding a drill above my head while drilling down into a masthead was a concern. After a lot of research and reading reviews, I narrowed my selection down to two brands, Metabo and Makita. The Metabo is very pricey so my buddy and I bought Makita 18V drills. We have had excellent experience with them. I highly recommend the Makita 18V cordless drill. I would suggest you look at 18 volt rather than 12 volt. Someday you'll need the extra power. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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The brushless motors do get better battery life. http://www.milwaukeetool.com/system/m12-fuel http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/batteries-and-chargers/2510-20 I have the 18V version, was on sale at the time. Great drill. One thing I like is the ability to slow start into aluminum or SS and drill with good torque at low RPM. Michael Brown Windburn CC 30-1 On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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If you are dead set on a 12v then consider the Majors 12v. This is the little brother to the 18v we've all been advocating. Makita FD02W 12V max Lithium-Ion Cordless 3/8-Inch Driver-Drill Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EYI18G/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_eUeGvbGDY9S6G Josh On Jun 16, 2015 11:59 AM, Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com wrote: I can understand why you would think you want a 12v drill. You think it will be cheaper, lighter, and smaller. That being said, I love my 18v Makita (white and black). Maybe a little bulkier than I'd like for the boat but it has never let me down. On Jun 16, 2015 11:49 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: John, Take this for what it's worth. I use a cordless drill a lot when working on boats and around the house. After my buddies and I soured on Dewalt cordless drills due to short battery lives, I looked hard. I'm a big fan of Dewalt and Bosch corded tools but found their reviews a bit low. My selection criteria included torque/power, weight and reliability. The weight was related to the fact that I frequently install hardware on mastheads. Holding a drill above my head while drilling down into a masthead was a concern. After a lot of research and reading reviews, I narrowed my selection down to two brands, Metabo and Makita. The Metabo is very pricey so my buddy and I bought Makita 18V drills. We have had excellent experience with them. I highly recommend the Makita 18V cordless drill. I would suggest you look at 18 volt rather than 12 volt. Someday you'll need the extra power. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a charge. At home I use a Bosch set that's proven to be very reliable, lots of use over four years including lots of masonry (hammer) and even work on the car with the driver. Ten years ago they would have likely been nicad batteries and those really did suck. The current gen of lithium ion powered stuff is great as far as I can tell. Steve Suhana, CC32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I +1 on the Ryobi 18 V (but it has to be Li-ion). They may not be the “professional grade”, but I don’t use it for work. They last much longer than the cordless of the past (unless you murder the battery; they don’t die by themselves, like our boat batteries) and they do keep charge for months, when not in use (that last comment applies to most of the Li-ion batteries). I haven’t found any 12 V chargers, though (not that I would need one). Look for a sale at Home Depot. They happen very rarely, but I bought my set at 50% off (model year change). Marek *From:* Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:41 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail billbinal...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill I would change course, and go for an 18 volt, 1/2 inch Ryobi with one of the new lightweight lithium Ion batteries. They are variable speed, and those new batteries run a LONG time on a charge, and then charge back up in an hour. Plug the 110 volt charger into an inverter when onboard, or get two batteries and rotate them from home. You'll be getting so much more tool than anything like what you described can provide. Bill Bina On 6/16/2015 11:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. It isn't like I'm off cruising for a week and suddenly it occurs to me that I should install some new deck hardware. And if it did I've got an old school hand drill that will do a few holes quite easily. I will admit, after being this sanctimonious, that I do have a 260 piece socket set on board. And yes, I only use 5 sockets from it. :-) Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 6:01 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a charge. At home I use a Bosch set that's proven to be very reliable, lots of use over four years including lots of masonry (hammer) and even work on the car with the driver. Ten years ago they would have likely been nicad batteries and those really did suck. The current gen of lithium ion powered stuff is great as far as I can tell. Steve Suhana, CC32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I +1 on the Ryobi 18 V (but it has to be Li-ion). They may not be the “professional grade”, but I don’t use it for work. They last much longer than the cordless of the past (unless you murder the battery; they don’t die by themselves, like our boat batteries) and they do keep charge for months, when not in use (that last comment applies to most of the Li-ion batteries). I haven’t found any 12 V chargers, though (not that I would need one). Look for a sale at Home Depot. They happen very rarely, but I bought my set at 50% off (model year change). Marek *From:* Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:41 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail mailto:billbinal...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill I would change course, and go for an 18 volt, 1/2 inch Ryobi with one of the new lightweight lithium Ion batteries. They are variable speed, and those new batteries run a LONG time on a charge, and then charge back up in an hour. Plug the 110 volt charger into an inverter when onboard, or get two batteries and rotate them from home. You'll be getting so much more tool than anything like what you described can provide. Bill Bina On 6/16/2015 11:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I swore off battery powered drills altogether for reasons of short drill life.. About 10 years ago I was on my 2nd or 3rd cordless drill needing replacement (Again) because it was cheaper than replacing the battery when a pretty beefy 120 volt powered model that was about 1/3rd the price caught my eye.. I never looked back. It's bullet proof, always ready to serve, and never runs out of power no matter how heavy the job. For the areas where I need portability or small size I still use my 35 year old Brookstone hand powered drill. That one's foolproof as well. Just an idea -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I +1 on the Ryobi 18 V (but it has to be Li-ion). They may not be the “professional grade”, but I don’t use it for work. They last much longer than the cordless of the past (unless you murder the battery; they don’t die by themselves, like our boat batteries) and they do keep charge for months, when not in use (that last comment applies to most of the Li-ion batteries). I haven’t found any 12 V chargers, though (not that I would need one). Look for a sale at Home Depot. They happen very rarely, but I bought my set at 50% off (model year change). Marek From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Bina - gmail Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill I would change course, and go for an 18 volt, 1/2 inch Ryobi with one of the new lightweight lithium Ion batteries. They are variable speed, and those new batteries run a LONG time on a charge, and then charge back up in an hour. Plug the 110 volt charger into an inverter when onboard, or get two batteries and rotate them from home. You'll be getting so much more tool than anything like what you described can provide. Bill Bina On 6/16/2015 11:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Speaking for myself I bought the ryobi because I saw the deal and I'm on a wet mooring. Rowing my tools out kinda sucks to be honest so I keep a set on board. Also, time is money right? Inevitably I forget to bring something. If it's all on board I'm good. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. It isn't like I'm off cruising for a week and suddenly it occurs to me that I should install some new deck hardware. And if it did I've got an old school hand drill that will do a few holes quite easily. I will admit, after being this sanctimonious, that I do have a 260 piece socket set on board. And yes, I only use 5 sockets from it. :-) Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 6:01 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a charge. At home I use a Bosch set that's proven to be very reliable, lots of use over four years including lots of masonry (hammer) and even work on the car with the driver. Ten years ago they would have likely been nicad batteries and those really did suck. The current gen of lithium ion powered stuff is great as far as I can tell. Steve Suhana, CC32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I +1 on the Ryobi 18 V (but it has to be Li-ion). They may not be the “professional grade”, but I don’t use it for work. They last much longer than the cordless of the past (unless you murder the battery; they don’t die by themselves, like our boat batteries) and they do keep charge for months, when not in use (that last comment applies to most of the Li-ion batteries). I haven’t found any 12 V chargers, though (not that I would need one). Look for a sale at Home Depot. They happen very rarely, but I bought my set at 50% off (model year change). Marek *From:* Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:41 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Bill Bina - gmail billbinal...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill I would change course, and go for an 18 volt, 1/2 inch Ryobi with one of the new lightweight lithium Ion batteries. They are variable speed, and those new batteries run a LONG time on a charge, and then charge back up in an hour. Plug the 110 volt charger into an inverter when onboard, or get two batteries and rotate them from home. You'll be getting so much more tool than anything like what you described can provide. Bill Bina On 6/16/2015 11:15 AM, John Russo via CnC-List wrote: I am looking for a small light duty light weight 3/8 max bit size, 12 volt cordless drill that has a 110 volt charger and also has a 12 volt cord with cigarette lighter adaptor that can be used directly connected to the house batteries. Does anyone have any recommendations? John Arpeggio CC 32 Norwalk, CT ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I have been using a 18v Milwaukee right angle drill for about 8 yrs for hauling mainsail up, had to change battery once in that time. Love it. Richard Davis Skycatcher CC 38 mk3 Oxnard, CA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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… What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? Ever since cordless drill batteries size and performance became reasonably useful (mid-80’s?) I carry one on any trip longer than a day sail and especially offshore. Used for repairs, both drilling holes and removing/installing fasteners they earn their keep. If you purchase L-Ion batteries and travel with your equipment, the US airlines are now restricting L-Ion batteries to carry on, not to be in checked luggage. This includes spare cell phone and laptop batteries. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stevan Plavsa Subject: Re: Stus-List 12 volt cordless drill Speaking for myself I bought the ryobi because I saw the deal and I'm on a wet mooring. Rowing my tools out kinda sucks to be honest so I keep a set on board. Also, time is money right? Inevitably I forget to bring something. If it's all on board I'm good. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, I've got to ask. I love tool as much as the next guy, maybe more (ask me how many saws I own). What the hell do you need a cordless drill living on your boat for? All season? When I'm working on the boat I will bring whatever drill is appropriate (the corded right angle drill is actually a favorite), I will take it home when done. It isn't like I'm off cruising for a week and suddenly it occurs to me that I should install some new deck hardware. And if it did I've got an old school hand drill that will do a few holes quite easily. I will admit, after being this sanctimonious, that I do have a 260 piece socket set on board. And yes, I only use 5 sockets from it. :-) Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 6:01 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: I got my ryobi L-ion set on sale for I think $60CND two batteries, driver and drill. I keep that stuff on the boat and bring a battery home every now and then for a charge. At home I use a Bosch set that's proven to be very reliable, lots of use over four years including lots of masonry (hammer) and even work on the car with the driver. Ten years ago they would have likely been nicad batteries and those really did suck. The current gen of lithium ion powered stuff is great as far as I can tell. Steve Suhana, CC32 Toronto ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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OK, but that is a different application than a generic drill. I should get one so my wife can hoist me up the mast to fix my windex. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2015-06-16 8:34 PM, Richard Davis via CnC-List wrote: I have been using a 18v Milwaukee right angle drill for about 8 yrs for hauling mainsail up, had to change battery once in that time. Love it. Richard Davis Skycatcher CC 38 mk3 Oxnard, CA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
