Stus-List Bilge Water

2022-01-07 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List

John,
I don't use the -35C windshield washer fluid in the potable waterlines, 
fresh water tankonly in the bilge lines and the head shower 
overboard line.  In the potable water lines I use plumber's antifreeze.


In the engine, I use full strength diesel antifreeze 50% - 50% with water.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax,N.S.

On 2022-01-07 11:50 a.m., John Read wrote:


A quick internet search indicates caution using windshield washer 
fluid in potable water lines.  Most fluids use methanol also known as 
methyl / wood alcohol  to prevent the freezing.  Methanol is highly 
poisonous and can cause blindness.  It may be ingested through air, 
skin or mouth. May also be corrosive


The water system antifreeze are usually based on propylene glycol 
which is considered generally safe unless ingested in large 
quantities. Propylene glycol rarely causes toxic effects, and then 
only under very unusual circumstances. Propylene glycol is a 
*Generally Recognized as Safe* (GRAS) food additive that is widely 
used in cosmetics. In certain medicines, cosmetics, and food products, 
propylene glycol acts as solvent.


In both cases, thorough rinsing of the potable system is recommended

John Read

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT


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Stus-List Bilge Water

2022-01-07 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
My mast is usually out during the winter...left it in this year for 
reasons...I use a cheap -35C windshield washer in the bilge to prevent 
any water from freezing before I get to the boat to pump it out. Mast in 
or mast out, I don't use either the manual or electric pump(s) in the 
winterboth lines and pumps are primed with the same -35C rated 
windshield washer to prevent any chance of freezing causing trouble.  
Has worked well for the past 16 winters.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax,N.S.

On 2022-01-07 1:33 a.m., Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
Water leaks in on a warmer day and then freezes before I can get to it 
and pump it out. No auto pump.  Cheap anti-freeze works well 'til I 
visit the boat again.

Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30-1
STL


On Thursday, January 6, 2022, 11:11:53 PM CST, andrew macLean 
 wrote:



Ron, Why are you putting anti-freeze in the bilge?

Andrew
C&C 30-1
Gulf Islands, BC


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Stus-List Bilge Water Level

2017-06-05 Thread Chuck Saur via CnC-List
>From experience- check the raw-water intake valve on your toilet (make sure
it's shut) and the sink drain in the head.  They only used single hose
clamps, (not double) on mine and short drain and intake cuffs. My loosened
and slipped out of place over time without notice...and water in bilge was
quick result.  Just another couple items for your troubleshooting
checklist.


*Chuck Saur*
*​Morning Sky*

*1985 35-3​*
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Re: Stus-List Bilge Water Level

2017-06-05 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Ray - not right at all.  I have the same boat as you.   The 33-2 has a deep 
sump, mine takes on no water at all. 

I am assuming you have closed all through hulls and checked instrument senders.

I suggest you spend 30 min and remove the table (four bolts) and cabin sole (a 
bunch of screws, use a cordless drill.).   You will find the problem quickly 
enough.  


Dave.  

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> On Jun 5, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Raymond Macklin  wrote:
> 
> I have a 1985 C&C 33.  I have a question regarding water in the bilge area.  
> I just put my boat in to start the season.  I found that my Bilge Pump Float 
> switch was not working.  I also found that with the boat sitting in the 
> water, the bilge filled up with water in quite a short time (like it about 4 
> hours)  I wanted to know if that seems right.  I should with the water rising 
> so quickly, the bilge pump would be running all the time.  Does anyone know 
> what could be causing it?  I removed the hose from the stern that fed into 
> it, just to make sure it was not coming from the engine compartment.  Any 
> ideas?
> 
> Ray Macklin
> LakeHouse
> Milwaukee

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Re: Stus-List Bilge Water Level

2017-06-05 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
The torque specs are on the C&C website:  http://cncphotoalbum.com/

Click "Technical Info" in the left sidebar then click "Torque Specs".

Specs are by bolt size.  Back off the nuts, then re-torque to spec.  If
your boat does not have stainless backing plates, replace them.

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Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Hector Saulnier via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ray
> I have a 1985 C&C 33 mk 2 and i noticed that after about 2 days I have
> about 2 liters of water.  I looked at the stuffing box and the raw water
> intake and other spots and found them to be good.  I then took a wet vac
> and cleaned out the bildge and engine area.  used baby pouder and found
> that I have a small amount of water coming in from the keel bolts.  I am
> going to look at this further.  Does anyone have the specs for the tourgue
> that is suppose to be on these bolts?  Or any comments at what to try
> first?  I do not have a C&C smile and the boat had no issues last season.
>
> Hector
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Raymond Macklin 
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent:* Monday, June 05, 2017 10:31 AM
> *Subject:* Stus-List Bilge Water Level
>
> I have a 1985 C&C 33.  I have a question regarding water in the bilge
> area.  I just put my boat in to start the season.  I found that my Bilge
> Pump Float switch was not working.  I also found that with the boat sitting
> in the water, the bilge filled up with water in quite a short time (like it
> about 4 hours)  I wanted to know if that seems right.  I should with the
> water rising so quickly, the bilge pump would be running all the time.
> Does anyone know what could be causing it?  I removed the hose from the
> stern that fed into it, just to make sure it was not coming from the engine
> compartment.  Any ideas?
>
> Ray Macklin
> LakeHouse
> Milwaukee
>
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Re: Stus-List Bilge Water Level

2017-06-05 Thread Hector Saulnier via CnC-List
Ray
I have a 1985 C&C 33 mk 2 and i noticed that after about 2 days I have about 2 
liters of water.  I looked at the stuffing box and the raw water intake and 
other spots and found them to be good.  I then took a wet vac and cleaned out 
the bildge and engine area.  used baby pouder and found that I have a small 
amount of water coming in from the keel bolts.  I am going to look at this 
further.  Does anyone have the specs for the tourgue that is suppose to be on 
these bolts?  Or any comments at what to try first?  I do not have a C&C smile 
and the boat had no issues last season.

Hector
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raymond Macklin 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 10:31 AM
  Subject: Stus-List Bilge Water Level


  I have a 1985 C&C 33.  I have a question regarding water in the bilge area.  
I just put my boat in to start the season.  I found that my Bilge Pump Float 
switch was not working.  I also found that with the boat sitting in the water, 
the bilge filled up with water in quite a short time (like it about 4 hours)  I 
wanted to know if that seems right.  I should with the water rising so quickly, 
the bilge pump would be running all the time.  Does anyone know what could be 
causing it?  I removed the hose from the stern that fed into it, just to make 
sure it was not coming from the engine compartment.  Any ideas?


  Ray Macklin

  LakeHouse

  Milwaukee
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Re: Stus-List Bilge Water Level

2017-06-05 Thread jackbrennan via CnC-List
Start with the stuffing box for the prop shaft. It could be the packing, an 
easy fix, or it could be an ancient stuffing box hose, which is more painful to 
replace.

Strategically placed paper towels or chalk can tell you where the water is 
coming from.

Right after I bought my current boat, it nearly sank at the dock after the 
surveyor failed to notice the stuffing box hose was seriously deteriorating.



Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.





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 Original message 
From: Raymond Macklin via CnC-List  
Date:06/05/2017  9:31 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Raymond Macklin  
Subject: Stus-List Bilge Water Level 

I have a 1985 C&C 33.  I have a question regarding water in the bilge area.  I 
just put my boat in to start the season.  I found that my Bilge Pump Float 
switch was not working.  I also found that with the boat sitting in the water, 
the bilge filled up with water in quite a short time (like it about 4 hours)  I 
wanted to know if that seems right.  I should with the water rising so quickly, 
the bilge pump would be running all the time.  Does anyone know what could be 
causing it?  I removed the hose from the stern that fed into it, just to make 
sure it was not coming from the engine compartment.  Any ideas?

Ray Macklin
LakeHouse
Milwaukee
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Re: Stus-List Bilge Water Level

2017-06-05 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List

 The bilge on the 33 is tiny...it doesn't take much to fill it up; The 
suggestions made by Dennis are accurate; if you just launched, it could be 
extraneous water; keep a close eye on whether you are getting more water or if 
it was a one-time event... 

 


Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4


Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Sent: Mon, Jun 5, 2017 9:36 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bilge Water Level



Definitely not right.  If it doesn't rain, my bilge pump won't pump for days.


Check the drive shaft stuffing box first.



Dennis C.




On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List 
 wrote:



I have a 1985 C&C 33.  I have a question regarding water in the bilge area.  I 
just put my boat in to start the season.  I found that my Bilge Pump Float 
switch was not working.  I also found that with the boat sitting in the water, 
the bilge filled up with water in quite a short time (like it about 4 hours)  I 
wanted to know if that seems right.  I should with the water rising so quickly, 
the bilge pump would be running all the time.  Does anyone know what could be 
causing it?  I removed the hose from the stern that fed into it, just to make 
sure it was not coming from the engine compartment.  Any ideas?


Ray Macklin

LakeHouse

Milwaukee


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Re: Stus-List Bilge Water Level

2017-06-05 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Definitely not right.  If it doesn't rain, my bilge pump won't pump for
days.

Check the drive shaft stuffing box first.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have a 1985 C&C 33.  I have a question regarding water in the bilge
> area.  I just put my boat in to start the season.  I found that my Bilge
> Pump Float switch was not working.  I also found that with the boat sitting
> in the water, the bilge filled up with water in quite a short time (like it
> about 4 hours)  I wanted to know if that seems right.  I should with the
> water rising so quickly, the bilge pump would be running all the time.
> Does anyone know what could be causing it?  I removed the hose from the
> stern that fed into it, just to make sure it was not coming from the engine
> compartment.  Any ideas?
>
> Ray Macklin
> LakeHouse
> Milwaukee
>
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> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
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>
> All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>
>
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Stus-List Bilge Water Level

2017-06-05 Thread Raymond Macklin via CnC-List
I have a 1985 C&C 33.  I have a question regarding water in the bilge
area.  I just put my boat in to start the season.  I found that my Bilge
Pump Float switch was not working.  I also found that with the boat sitting
in the water, the bilge filled up with water in quite a short time (like it
about 4 hours)  I wanted to know if that seems right.  I should with the
water rising so quickly, the bilge pump would be running all the time.
Does anyone know what could be causing it?  I removed the hose from the
stern that fed into it, just to make sure it was not coming from the engine
compartment.  Any ideas?

Ray Macklin
LakeHouse
Milwaukee
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