Re: Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII
The issue on cockpit sheeting boats becomes the extent to which the dodger can effectively cover the companionway and cockpit seating; one way to get additional coverage would be to relocate the placement of the mainsheet where it attaches to the boom; this is usually a rivet or bolt on arrangement; by moving the attachment point a few inches (don;t go to extremes here) toward the end of the boom (aft) you do not alter the effectiveness of the sheeting but you can gain valuable room for the dodger; Richard s/v Bushmark4, 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: alexander rankin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> Cc: alexander rankin <arankin...@yahoo.com>; cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 7, 2017 8:11 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII Thanks for the reply. My main sheet attached to a traveler located near the companion way (not mid boom but not end boom either). If boom was high enough I could get a lot of cockpit covered. I guess I'll have to wait and get the mast up to see how much height I actually have I did see on one of the canvas websites where a Seaward 24? had raised the end of the boom and had the foot of the sail recut. If I don't have the height I need that might be an option Sandy 1981 25 MkII Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> wrote: Sandy, I can’t tell you about a Mk2 but on my Mk1 (which has a slightly longer boom), my boat had boom end sheeting which makes the “boom height” a somewhat relative thing. The main sheet attached to a bail on the end of the boom on one end, and to a transom mounted curved traveler on the other. There were times I could stand up without worry and other times I’d need to duck when gybing (I am 5’8”). Generally I ducked… You can rig up a topping lift to control boom height, but when hard on the breeze, I’d like to pull the traveler up and keep the boom as close to the centerline as possible, and with the sail trimmed in tight, the boom didn’t give much clearance in the cockpit. With the boom at somewhere around 10+ feet in length, you won’t find much available real estate aft of the boom end for a bimini. Even if you could mount one off the transom, you’re not going to get much coverage from such a bimini given that with a tiller, you don’t sit in the aft part of the cockpit while underway. Maybe when you’re at anchor, you can rig a boom tent apparatus to keep the sun off of you, but I don’t see such an arrangement working while sailing. Cheers, Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 35 Landfall (formerly 1974 25 Mk1) Padanaram, MA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of sandy rankin via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 2:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: sandy rankin <arankin...@yahoo.com> Subject: Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII Hello All New owner of a 1981 25 MKII. Stumbled across this group while doing my research. As the season nears i've been rummaging through bags and bags of "stuff" that came with the boat, trying to acquaint myself with what I've got. It came with an old trashed dodger but no bimini. One of our top priorities is a bimini as i am fair skinned and turn the shade of a cooked lobster rather quickly when exposed to any kind of sun. Our local canvas maker said that based on his specs, we would only be able to use a bimini covering the area aft of the boom while sailing because of the height of the boom. A connector to the dodger could then be added while at anchor. Can anyone tell me the height of the boom on this model? (We bought this boat at the end of the season last year and the mast was already down) If indeed it is too low, has anyone raised the boom or shortened the leech to get the additional height for a bimini to be usable? Thanks for any advice you can provide. Sandy 1981 C 25 MKII Lake Ontario ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII
Raising the goose neck is always an option. A few $$ to recut the mainsail and you'll have more headroom. The boom on my 35-1 was raised a few inches by a previous owner. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:10 AM, alexander rankin via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Thanks for the reply. My main sheet attached to a traveler located near > the companion way (not mid boom but not end boom either). If boom was high > enough I could get a lot of cockpit covered. > > I guess I'll have to wait and get the mast up to see how much height I > actually have > > I did see on one of the canvas websites where a Seaward 24? had raised the > end of the boom and had the foot of the sail recut. If I don't have the > height I need that might be an option > > Sandy > 1981 25 MkII > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> > wrote: > > Sandy, > > I can’t tell you about a Mk2 but on my Mk1 (which has a slightly longer > boom), my boat had boom end sheeting which makes the “boom height” a > somewhat relative thing. The main sheet attached to a bail on the end of > the boom on one end, and to a transom mounted curved traveler on the other. > There were times I could stand up without worry and other times I’d need to > duck when gybing (I am 5’8”). Generally I ducked… You can rig up a > topping lift to control boom height, but when hard on the breeze, I’d like > to pull the traveler up and keep the boom as close to the centerline as > possible, and with the sail trimmed in tight, the boom didn’t give much > clearance in the cockpit. > > > > With the boom at somewhere around 10+ feet in length, you won’t find much > available real estate aft of the boom end for a bimini. Even if you could > mount one off the transom, you’re not going to get much coverage from such > a bimini given that with a tiller, you don’t sit in the aft part of the > cockpit while underway. > > > > Maybe when you’re at anchor, you can rig a boom tent apparatus to keep the > sun off of you, but I don’t see such an arrangement working while sailing. > > Cheers, > > Chuck Gilchrest > > S/V Half Magic > > 1983 35 Landfall > > (formerly 1974 25 Mk1) > > Padanaram, MA > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *sandy rankin via CnC-List > *Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2017 2:27 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* sandy rankin <arankin...@yahoo.com> > *Subject:* Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII > > > > Hello All > > > > New owner of a 1981 25 MKII. Stumbled across this group while doing my > research. > > > > As the season nears i've been rummaging through bags and bags of "stuff" > that came with the boat, trying to acquaint myself with what I've got. It > came with an old trashed dodger but no bimini. > > > > One of our top priorities is a bimini as i am fair skinned and turn the > shade of a cooked lobster rather quickly when exposed to any kind of sun. > Our local canvas maker said that based on his specs, we would only be able > to use a bimini covering the area aft of the boom while sailing because of > the height of the boom. A connector to the dodger could then be added while > at anchor. > > > > Can anyone tell me the height of the boom on this model? (We bought this > boat at the end of the season last year and the mast was already down) > > > > If indeed it is too low, has anyone raised the boom or shortened the leech > to get the additional height for a bimini to be usable? > > > > Thanks for any advice you can provide. > > > > Sandy > > 1981 C 25 MKII > > Lake Ontario > > > > > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII
Thanks for the reply. My main sheet attached to a traveler located near the companion way (not mid boom but not end boom either). If boom was high enough I could get a lot of cockpit covered. I guess I'll have to wait and get the mast up to see how much height I actually have I did see on one of the canvas websites where a Seaward 24? had raised the end of the boom and had the foot of the sail recut. If I don't have the height I need that might be an option Sandy 1981 25 MkII Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Sandy, > I can’t tell you about a Mk2 but on my Mk1 (which has a slightly longer > boom), my boat had boom end sheeting which makes the “boom height” a > somewhat relative thing. The main sheet attached to a bail on the end of the > boom on one end, and to a transom mounted curved traveler on the other. There > were times I could stand up without worry and other times I’d need to duck > when gybing (I am 5’8”). Generally I ducked… You can rig up a topping lift > to control boom height, but when hard on the breeze, I’d like to pull the > traveler up and keep the boom as close to the centerline as possible, and > with the sail trimmed in tight, the boom didn’t give much clearance in the > cockpit. > > With the boom at somewhere around 10+ feet in length, you won’t find much > available real estate aft of the boom end for a bimini. Even if you could > mount one off the transom, you’re not going to get much coverage from such a > bimini given that with a tiller, you don’t sit in the aft part of the cockpit > while underway. > > Maybe when you’re at anchor, you can rig a boom tent apparatus to keep the > sun off of you, but I don’t see such an arrangement working while sailing. > Cheers, > Chuck Gilchrest > S/V Half Magic > 1983 35 Landfall > (formerly 1974 25 Mk1) > Padanaram, MA > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of sandy > rankin via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 2:27 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: sandy rankin <arankin...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII > > Hello All > > New owner of a 1981 25 MKII. Stumbled across this group while doing my > research. > > As the season nears i've been rummaging through bags and bags of "stuff" that > came with the boat, trying to acquaint myself with what I've got. It came > with an old trashed dodger but no bimini. > > One of our top priorities is a bimini as i am fair skinned and turn the > shade of a cooked lobster rather quickly when exposed to any kind of sun. Our > local canvas maker said that based on his specs, we would only be able to use > a bimini covering the area aft of the boom while sailing because of the > height of the boom. A connector to the dodger could then be added while at > anchor. > > Can anyone tell me the height of the boom on this model? (We bought this boat > at the end of the season last year and the mast was already down) > > If indeed it is too low, has anyone raised the boom or shortened the leech to > get the additional height for a bimini to be usable? > > Thanks for any advice you can provide. > > Sandy > 1981 C 25 MKII > Lake Ontario > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII
Sandy: I had a 1975 C 25, and I installed an off-the-shelf bimini with no problem. As I remember, I didn’t have standing headroom, but I really didn’t need it because you usually sit with a tiller anyway. I’m 6 feet, 2 inches tall, and a slight crouch would get me forward to the cabin with no problem. Jack Brennan Former C 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. From: sandy rankin via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 2:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: sandy rankin Subject: Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII Hello All New owner of a 1981 25 MKII. Stumbled across this group while doing my research. As the season nears i've been rummaging through bags and bags of "stuff" that came with the boat, trying to acquaint myself with what I've got. It came with an old trashed dodger but no bimini. One of our top priorities is a bimini as i am fair skinned and turn the shade of a cooked lobster rather quickly when exposed to any kind of sun. Our local canvas maker said that based on his specs, we would only be able to use a bimini covering the area aft of the boom while sailing because of the height of the boom. A connector to the dodger could then be added while at anchor. Can anyone tell me the height of the boom on this model? (We bought this boat at the end of the season last year and the mast was already down) If indeed it is too low, has anyone raised the boom or shortened the leech to get the additional height for a bimini to be usable? Thanks for any advice you can provide. Sandy 1981 C 25 MKII Lake Ontario ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII
Sandy, I can’t tell you about a Mk2 but on my Mk1 (which has a slightly longer boom), my boat had boom end sheeting which makes the “boom height” a somewhat relative thing. The main sheet attached to a bail on the end of the boom on one end, and to a transom mounted curved traveler on the other. There were times I could stand up without worry and other times I’d need to duck when gybing (I am 5’8”). Generally I ducked… You can rig up a topping lift to control boom height, but when hard on the breeze, I’d like to pull the traveler up and keep the boom as close to the centerline as possible, and with the sail trimmed in tight, the boom didn’t give much clearance in the cockpit. With the boom at somewhere around 10+ feet in length, you won’t find much available real estate aft of the boom end for a bimini. Even if you could mount one off the transom, you’re not going to get much coverage from such a bimini given that with a tiller, you don’t sit in the aft part of the cockpit while underway. Maybe when you’re at anchor, you can rig a boom tent apparatus to keep the sun off of you, but I don’t see such an arrangement working while sailing. Cheers, Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 35 Landfall (formerly 1974 25 Mk1) Padanaram, MA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of sandy rankin via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 2:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: sandy rankin <arankin...@yahoo.com> Subject: Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII Hello All New owner of a 1981 25 MKII. Stumbled across this group while doing my research. As the season nears i've been rummaging through bags and bags of "stuff" that came with the boat, trying to acquaint myself with what I've got. It came with an old trashed dodger but no bimini. One of our top priorities is a bimini as i am fair skinned and turn the shade of a cooked lobster rather quickly when exposed to any kind of sun. Our local canvas maker said that based on his specs, we would only be able to use a bimini covering the area aft of the boom while sailing because of the height of the boom. A connector to the dodger could then be added while at anchor. Can anyone tell me the height of the boom on this model? (We bought this boat at the end of the season last year and the mast was already down) If indeed it is too low, has anyone raised the boom or shortened the leech to get the additional height for a bimini to be usable? Thanks for any advice you can provide. Sandy 1981 C 25 MKII Lake Ontario ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List Boom Height - 1981 25 MKII
Hello All New owner of a 1981 25 MKII. Stumbled across this group while doing my research. As the season nears i've been rummaging through bags and bags of "stuff" that came with the boat, trying to acquaint myself with what I've got. It came with an old trashed dodger but no bimini. One of our top priorities is a bimini as i am fair skinned and turn the shade of a cooked lobster rather quickly when exposed to any kind of sun. Our local canvas maker said that based on his specs, we would only be able to use a bimini covering the area aft of the boom while sailing because of the height of the boom. A connector to the dodger could then be added while at anchor. Can anyone tell me the height of the boom on this model? (We bought this boat at the end of the season last year and the mast was already down) If indeed it is too low, has anyone raised the boom or shortened the leech to get the additional height for a bimini to be usable? Thanks for any advice you can provide. Sandy1981 C 25 MKIILake Ontario ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
