Re: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Sounds like you need to learn to enjoy the dodger.

-Original Message- 
From: steve dewar via CnC-List

Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 10:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: steve dewar
Subject: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

Thanks everyone for your great feedback on my question. I’ll ponder my 
solution over the winter. And yes I have a dodger. But, I don’t like it, 
however the admiral does. There’s the rub! She likes comfort, I love speed! 
Cheers


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Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[steve dewar via CnC-List]

Thanks everyone for your great feedback on my question. I’ll ponder my solution 
over the winter. And yes I have a dodger. But, I don’t like it, however the 
admiral does. There’s the rub! She likes comfort, I love speed!  Cheers

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Re: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

No dodger; we don’t need it here (it is either too hot or too cold here). And I 
know that a dodger would be an issue.

It does work well. It made the main adjustments so much easier, especially when 
close hauled and in high winds.

Marek

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 12:32
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Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

Looks like it probably works perfectly.  Do you not have a dodger?  That would 
be my only hold up.

Josh

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017, 10:47 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I had a similar setup and changed it 6:1/3:1 using Garhauer special double 
block on the traveller. This gives you great speed, when you need it and more 
purchase when you need that. Also freed one clutch on the cabin top and does 
not require a winch, at all.

Picture: 
https://1drv.ms/i/s!At7BtDHoAfRtnW_Jd3QNxRcyGIRs<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F1drv.ms%2Fi%2Fs!At7BtDHoAfRtnW_Jd3QNxRcyGIRs=02%7C01%7Cdziedzicmj%40hotmail.com%7C6e1d794aa73845b33f4c08d538e179eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636477463413574721=X5wxfar5Dsjjv3dX%2FGA1p4Vn5zEfX%2Bwt0nCet%2FaCYwA%3D=0>

Marek
1994 C270 “Legato”
Ottawa, ON

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Re: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

I also appreciate the need for good mainsheet systems.  I changed the system on 
Resolute twice before I settled on the present 5:1/20:1 system.  It involved 
moving the traveller from behind the pedestal to in front of it.  I found the 
6:1 purchase was hard to release when loaded up.  So I added a 4:1 double ended 
fine tune and lowered the traveller to the cockpit floor.  This change allowed 
me to drop a pulley and shorten the mainsheet length 20 feet.


If I had the traveller on the coach roof like the 35 MkIII, which uses three 
blocks on the boom to spread the load, I'd set it up for singlehanding by 
keeping the present purchase and take the aft end of the purchase back to a 
block on the boom end (you'll need to add a Bail and a block) and install a 
fine tune between that and a padeye through bolted to the cockpit floor right 
in front of the pedestal.   This would give you the ability to ease the main 
from the helm when hard on the wind, so you can turn around the windward mark, 
or simply play the main in gusty conditions.   You'll need to replace the 
mainsheet with longer line to do any of these things.


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

> On December 1, 2017 at 12:22 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> The only problem he is going to run into is that it is mid point boom 
> attachment.  He would have to figure out how/where to run a second control 
> line back to the cockpit.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017, 10:47 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> > > I had a similar setup and changed it 6:1/3:1 using 
> Garhauer special double block on the traveller. This gives you great speed, 
> when you need it and more purchase when you need that. Also freed one clutch 
> on the cabin top and does not require a winch, at all.
> >  
> > Picture: https://1drv.ms/i/s!At7BtDHoAfRtnW_Jd3QNxRcyGIRs 
> > https://1drv.ms/i/s!At7BtDHoAfRtnW_Jd3QNxRcyGIRs
> >  
> > Marek
> > 1994 C270 “Legato”
> > Ottawa, ON
> >  
> > From: steve dewar via CnC-List
> > Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 08:45
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: steve dewar
> > Subject: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up
> >  
> >  
> > Presently, my mainsheet is a double block on cabin traveller, thru 
> > two blocks to the mast, down to another block, thru a stopper and finally 
> > to a self tailer winch. Being used to handling a main on 16 cat , I am used 
> > to a main sheet that is more responsive! I am thinking of changing up to a 
> > triple block with cam cleat on the cabin traveller. Does anyone see issues 
> > with this? Or is this a case of small boat thinking on a big boat set up? 
> > Thanks Steve
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Re: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Looks like it probably works perfectly.  Do you not have a dodger?  That
would be my only hold up.

Josh

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017, 10:47 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had a similar setup and changed it 6:1/3:1 using Garhauer special double
> block on the traveller. This gives you great speed, when you need it and
> more purchase when you need that. Also freed one clutch on the cabin top
> and does not require a winch, at all.
>
> Picture: https://1drv.ms/i/s!At7BtDHoAfRtnW_Jd3QNxRcyGIRs
>
> Marek
> 1994 C270 “Legato”
> Ottawa, ON
>
> *From:* steve dewar via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2017 08:45
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* steve dewar
> *Subject:* Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up
>
> Presently, my mainsheet is a double block on cabin traveller, thru two
> blocks to the mast, down to another block, thru a stopper and finally to a
> self tailer winch. Being used to handling a main on 16 cat , I am used to a
> main sheet that is more responsive! I am thinking of changing up to a
> triple block with cam cleat on the cabin traveller. Does anyone see issues
> with this? Or is this a case of small boat thinking on a big boat set up?
> Thanks Steve
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Re: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

The only problem he is going to run into is that it is mid point boom
attachment.  He would have to figure out how/where to run a second control
line back to the cockpit.

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017, 10:47 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had a similar setup and changed it 6:1/3:1 using Garhauer special double
> block on the traveller. This gives you great speed, when you need it and
> more purchase when you need that. Also freed one clutch on the cabin top
> and does not require a winch, at all.
>
> Picture: https://1drv.ms/i/s!At7BtDHoAfRtnW_Jd3QNxRcyGIRs
>
> Marek
> 1994 C270 “Legato”
> Ottawa, ON
>
> *From:* steve dewar via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2017 08:45
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* steve dewar
> *Subject:* Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up
>
> Presently, my mainsheet is a double block on cabin traveller, thru two
> blocks to the mast, down to another block, thru a stopper and finally to a
> self tailer winch. Being used to handling a main on 16 cat , I am used to a
> main sheet that is more responsive! I am thinking of changing up to a
> triple block with cam cleat on the cabin traveller. Does anyone see issues
> with this? Or is this a case of small boat thinking on a big boat set up?
> Thanks Steve
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Re: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

My setup is similar to yours - 3:1 purchase plus the self - tailing winch.
The more purchase you have with a triple block means it will take longer
for the boom to go in and out when you change direction.  Also, in light
air, you may have too much friction for the boom to go out by itself when
going downwind, and your crew willhave to push the boom out.  My boat came
with a setup similar to  Josh's, and I switched over to the present
configuration.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 5:44 AM, steve dewar via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Presently, my mainsheet is a double block on cabin traveller, thru two
> blocks to the mast, down to another block, thru a stopper and finally to a
> self tailer winch. Being used to handling a main on 16 cat , I am used to a
> main sheet that is more responsive! I am thinking of changing up to a
> triple block with cam cleat on the cabin traveller. Does anyone see issues
> with this? Or is this a case of small boat thinking on a big boat set up?
> Thanks Steve
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Re: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I had a similar setup and changed it 6:1/3:1 using Garhauer special double 
block on the traveller. This gives you great speed, when you need it and more 
purchase when you need that. Also freed one clutch on the cabin top and does 
not require a winch, at all.

Picture: https://1drv.ms/i/s!At7BtDHoAfRtnW_Jd3QNxRcyGIRs

Marek
1994 C270 “Legato”
Ottawa, ON

From: steve dewar via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 08:45
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: steve dewar
Subject: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

Presently, my mainsheet is a double block on cabin traveller, thru two blocks 
to the mast, down to another block, thru a stopper and finally to a self tailer 
winch. Being used to handling a main on 16 cat , I am used to a main sheet that 
is more responsive! I am thinking of changing up to a triple block with cam 
cleat on the cabin traveller. Does anyone see issues with this? Or is this a 
case of small boat thinking on a big boat set up? Thanks Steve
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Re: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Steve,

I did the same thing.  The 6:1 using Garhauer blocks.  Worked great!

Joel

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 8:44 AM, steve dewar via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Presently, my mainsheet is a double block on cabin traveller, thru two
> blocks to the mast, down to another block, thru a stopper and finally to a
> self tailer winch. Being used to handling a main on 16 cat , I am used to a
> main sheet that is more responsive! I am thinking of changing up to a
> triple block with cam cleat on the cabin traveller. Does anyone see issues
> with this? Or is this a case of small boat thinking on a big boat set up?
> Thanks Steve
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Re: Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

More power means less travel per foot of line pulled, ultimately resulting
the need foe more line.  Are you wanting less effort on the traveler or the
mainsheet?  You can ease traveler movements by easing the mainsheet first.
If getting sufficient mainsheet tension is the issue then consider a
compound block arrangement.  There are a couple different options but one
way or another you can achieve the effect of a course adjustment and a fine
adjustment.

Here are some pictures of mine.  I made it myself as Garhauer doesn't make
one purpose built.  The course adjustment is 3:1 and on the cabin top.  The
fine adjustment is 12:1 and readily available in the cockpit.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yY3Qtbi1VSllwM3M

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Fri, Dec 1, 2017, 8:45 AM steve dewar via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Presently, my mainsheet is a double block on cabin traveller, thru two
> blocks to the mast, down to another block, thru a stopper and finally to a
> self tailer winch. Being used to handling a main on 16 cat , I am used to a
> main sheet that is more responsive! I am thinking of changing up to a
> triple block with cam cleat on the cabin traveller. Does anyone see issues
> with this? Or is this a case of small boat thinking on a big boat set up?
> Thanks Steve
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Stus-List C 35 mkiii mainsheet set up

[steve dewar via CnC-List]

Presently, my mainsheet is a double block on cabin traveller, thru two blocks 
to the mast, down to another block, thru a stopper and finally to a self tailer 
winch. Being used to handling a main on 16 cat , I am used to a main sheet that 
is more responsive! I am thinking of changing up to a triple block with cam 
cleat on the cabin traveller. Does anyone see issues with this? Or is this a 
case of small boat thinking on a big boat set up? Thanks Steve
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