Re: Stus-List Connection fittings for corrugated bilge pump hose

2015-04-27 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Eric,

I'd either try 1 some silicone sealant 2 I would get a piece of plastic
pipe that fits inside the corrugated hose (like a kitchen tailpiece pipe)
and figure out how to connect it to the strainer or 3 see if West will sell
you a short piece of the new stuff and use a coupling to join the new hose
to the old.

Joel


On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Eric Frank via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 The 1.5 inch ID corrugated hose that runs from the bilge to a manual pump
 in the cockpit seems to be leaking in air just where the corrugated hose
 connects to an adaptor that screws into the hose with the threads of the
 corrugation and then provides a male 1.5 inch end that fits inside the
 strainer.  Is there a sealer that would make the threaded part into the
 hose less leaky?  I see the new corrugated hoses on line have a built-in
 non-corrugated section every 12 inches, a much better solution, but then I
 would have to buy a new 15 ft length of the hose.  Probably someone on this
 list also has dealt with these older style connectors.  Any recommendation
 for making the connection tighter?  I just screwed it on until it was tight
 and it still leaks.  The problem is that it takes vigorous pumping from the
 cockpit to get the entire hose full of water before it pumps very well.
 Thanks!

 Eric Frank
 Cat's Paw
 CC 35 Mk II
 Mattapoisett, MA


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Stus-List Connection fittings for corrugated bilge pump hose

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Frank via CnC-List
The 1.5 inch ID corrugated hose that runs from the bilge to a manual pump in 
the cockpit seems to be leaking in air just where the corrugated hose connects 
to an adaptor that screws into the hose with the threads of the corrugation and 
then provides a male 1.5 inch end that fits inside the strainer.  Is there a 
sealer that would make the threaded part into the hose less leaky?  I see the 
new corrugated hoses on line have a built-in non-corrugated section every 12 
inches, a much better solution, but then I would have to buy a new 15 ft length 
of the hose.  Probably someone on this list also has dealt with these older 
style connectors.  Any recommendation for making the connection tighter?  I 
just screwed it on until it was tight and it still leaks.  The problem is that 
it takes vigorous pumping from the cockpit to get the entire hose full of water 
before it pumps very well.  Thanks!

Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
CC 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA

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Re: Stus-List Connection fittings for corrugated bilge pump hose

2015-04-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Those hoses with the non-corrigated sections are of poorer quality and will
not likely last very long.  The Shields 141 hose is a reasonable value for
bildge hose.

Josh
On Apr 27, 2015 8:59 AM, Eric Frank via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 The 1.5 inch ID corrugated hose that runs from the bilge to a manual pump
 in the cockpit seems to be leaking in air just where the corrugated hose
 connects to an adaptor that screws into the hose with the threads of the
 corrugation and then provides a male 1.5 inch end that fits inside the
 strainer.  Is there a sealer that would make the threaded part into the
 hose less leaky?  I see the new corrugated hoses on line have a built-in
 non-corrugated section every 12 inches, a much better solution, but then I
 would have to buy a new 15 ft length of the hose.  Probably someone on this
 list also has dealt with these older style connectors.  Any recommendation
 for making the connection tighter?  I just screwed it on until it was tight
 and it still leaks.  The problem is that it takes vigorous pumping from the
 cockpit to get the entire hose full of water before it pumps very well.
 Thanks!

 Eric Frank
 Cat's Paw
 CC 35 Mk II
 Mattapoisett, MA


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Re: Stus-List Connection fittings for corrugated bilge pump hose

2015-04-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I would try some KY to lubricate the threads so you can get the fitting
tighter.  I don't know exactly what type of fitting you have but a hose
coupling like the one in this link will allow you to screw to pieces of
1.5 corigated hose together.  Again more KY.

http://www.grabberpower.com/images/vac_accessory_7.png

You might also find that an inline check valve or a foot valve helps keep
the suction line primed.  Beckson makes one.  Evidently, on inspected
vessels the coast gaurd wants the suction strainer to be 3x the area of the
suction hose so this doesn't meet that requirement but then again it is
pretty unlikely that you have an inspected vessel.

http://www.beckson.com/images/STV-1-1_2at600.jpg

http://www.beckson.com/hose.html

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 CC 37+
Solomons,  MD
On Apr 27, 2015 8:59 AM, Eric Frank via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 The 1.5 inch ID corrugated hose that runs from the bilge to a manual pump
 in the cockpit seems to be leaking in air just where the corrugated hose
 connects to an adaptor that screws into the hose with the threads of the
 corrugation and then provides a male 1.5 inch end that fits inside the
 strainer.  Is there a sealer that would make the threaded part into the
 hose less leaky?  I see the new corrugated hoses on line have a built-in
 non-corrugated section every 12 inches, a much better solution, but then I
 would have to buy a new 15 ft length of the hose.  Probably someone on this
 list also has dealt with these older style connectors.  Any recommendation
 for making the connection tighter?  I just screwed it on until it was tight
 and it still leaks.  The problem is that it takes vigorous pumping from the
 cockpit to get the entire hose full of water before it pumps very well.
 Thanks!

 Eric Frank
 Cat's Paw
 CC 35 Mk II
 Mattapoisett, MA


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Re: Stus-List Connection fittings for corrugated bilge pump hose

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Frank via CnC-List
Thanks to all of you who contributed answers to my question.  It seems quite 
clear from the responses that to fix this properly, the hose should be 
replaced.  Fortunately that can be done after Cat's Paw is back in the water.

As others have noted, this list is great. I just asked this question this 
morning!

Eric


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