Re: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories
Or an oil extractor? From: CnC-List On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List Sent: May 29, 2019 6:13 PM To: C Cc: ALAN BERGEN Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories Will a Shop Vac work? On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:59 AM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Speaking of fuel issues, I recently drained my Racor MA 500 (?) fuel/water separator and replaced the filter element. The bottom of the bowl had what looks like several black 'balls' in it about 1/2" in diameter which do not fit thru the drain. I have no clue what they are but guess maybe some compound made from diesel fuel (or contaminants within it). Without disassembling the unit, I don't know how to get them out or dissolved or whether I need to. This Racor is almost impossible to reach in my engine compartment so whatever I do will be a PITA. Any suggestions on what to do--if anything? Charlie Nelson Water Phantom 1995 C 36 XL/kcb -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: CnClist mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 11:15 am Subject: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories I was on the pier couple weeks ago when a neighbor boat owner told me he was coming in off the lake and couldn't get full rpm on his diesel. He asked if I thought it could be the fuel filter being blinded. I said yes and asked when was the last time he changed the element. His reply? 35 years! I asked if he knew where it was. :) He did. It was an old Perko 209. Google it for a picture. We couldn't remove the screw on top with it in the boat. The entire unit twisted and it started coming off the bulkhead. We removed the unit to the dock and used a large wrenches to take it apart. Inside was a ceramic permanent element. I was unbelievably plugged up. About 1/8 inch of crud all around it. I told him to go get a can of carburetor cleaner and clean it. Took him a few applications of the cleaner but it cleaned up. Reinstalled it and diesel runs fine. On the other hand, I had to change the fuel filter element on Touche' this weekend on the way to Pensacola. I have vacuum gauge on it. It started easing into the red. There was only 100 hours on it. The previous element lasted over 400 hours. Very strange. I had just removed the fuel tank couple months ago and the fuel looked very clean. You just don't know. A batch of bad fuel perhaps? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.paypal.me_stumurray=DwMCaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=-4vXjmME-hJKC2WvZgBm1sk7wYuWqH3A-mR0kipI8fM=IU7HoQiUXsBWbJrRxc0-_HJjTPEFrxTXHO65SZQA9LU=> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.paypal.me_stumurray=DwICAg=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=-4vXjmME-hJKC2WvZgBm1sk7wYuWqH3A-mR0kipI8fM=IU7HoQiUXsBWbJrRxc0-_HJjTPEFrxTXHO65SZQA9LU= ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories
Will a Shop Vac work? On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:59 AM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Speaking of fuel issues, I recently drained my Racor MA 500 (?) fuel/water > separator and replaced the filter element. The bottom of the bowl had what > looks like several black 'balls' in it about 1/2" in diameter which do not > fit thru the drain. > > I have no clue what they are but guess maybe some compound made from > diesel fuel (or contaminants within it). Without disassembling the unit, I > don't know how to get them out or dissolved or whether I need to. This > Racor is almost impossible to reach in my engine compartment so whatever I > do will be a PITA. > > Any suggestions on what to do--if anything? > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > 1995 C 36 XL/kcb > > > -Original Message- > From: Dennis C. via CnC-List > To: CnClist > Cc: Dennis C. > Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 11:15 am > Subject: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories > > I was on the pier couple weeks ago when a neighbor boat owner told me he > was coming in off the lake and couldn't get full rpm on his diesel. He > asked if I thought it could be the fuel filter being blinded. I said yes > and asked when was the last time he changed the element. His reply? 35 > years! > > I asked if he knew where it was. :) He did. It was an old Perko 209. > Google it for a picture. > > We couldn't remove the screw on top with it in the boat. The entire unit > twisted and it started coming off the bulkhead. We removed the unit to the > dock and used a large wrenches to take it apart. Inside was a ceramic > permanent element. I was unbelievably plugged up. About 1/8 inch of crud > all around it. I told him to go get a can of carburetor cleaner and clean > it. Took him a few applications of the cleaner but it cleaned up. > Reinstalled it and diesel runs fine. > > On the other hand, I had to change the fuel filter element on Touche' this > weekend on the way to Pensacola. I have vacuum gauge on it. It started > easing into the red. There was only 100 hours on it. The previous element > lasted over 400 hours. Very strange. I had just removed the fuel tank > couple months ago and the fuel looked very clean. > > You just don't know. A batch of bad fuel perhaps? > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.paypal.me_stumurray=DwMCaQ=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=-4vXjmME-hJKC2WvZgBm1sk7wYuWqH3A-mR0kipI8fM=IU7HoQiUXsBWbJrRxc0-_HJjTPEFrxTXHO65SZQA9LU=> > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.paypal.me_stumurray=DwICAg=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=-4vXjmME-hJKC2WvZgBm1sk7wYuWqH3A-mR0kipI8fM=IU7HoQiUXsBWbJrRxc0-_HJjTPEFrxTXHO65SZQA9LU= > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories
My previous boat with an A4 engine would slow down or stall, when running at full throttle. When i backed off on the throttle, the engine ran fine. Problem turned out to be a clogged filter on the end of the pickup tube. Cleaned it out, and the engine ran fine after that. Did C put filters on the end of the pickup tube? Are they put only on gas engines? Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose city YC Portland, OR On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:15 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I was on the pier couple weeks ago when a neighbor boat owner told me he > was coming in off the lake and couldn't get full rpm on his diesel. He > asked if I thought it could be the fuel filter being blinded. I said yes > and asked when was the last time he changed the element. His reply? 35 > years! > > I asked if he knew where it was. :) He did. It was an old Perko 209. > Google it for a picture. > > We couldn't remove the screw on top with it in the boat. The entire unit > twisted and it started coming off the bulkhead. We removed the unit to the > dock and used a large wrenches to take it apart. Inside was a ceramic > permanent element. I was unbelievably plugged up. About 1/8 inch of crud > all around it. I told him to go get a can of carburetor cleaner and clean > it. Took him a few applications of the cleaner but it cleaned up. > Reinstalled it and diesel runs fine. > > On the other hand, I had to change the fuel filter element on Touche' this > weekend on the way to Pensacola. I have vacuum gauge on it. It started > easing into the red. There was only 100 hours on it. The previous element > lasted over 400 hours. Very strange. I had just removed the fuel tank > couple months ago and the fuel looked very clean. > > You just don't know. A batch of bad fuel perhaps? > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.paypal.me_stumurray=DwICAg=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ=-FSlIi4emCWwuZzw-Aq5nebXzCxuCI9F50458Y1l3cc=qrC1Bosp_kJQsGA1CyaUGZzeMm1t3A_kc6n8A_Hvr58= > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories
That sounds like the little tar-balls that BP made by the billions in the gulf. Maybe they will dissolve over time. Bill Coleman C 39 Erie, PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 11:59 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories Speaking of fuel issues, I recently drained my Racor MA 500 (?) fuel/water separator and replaced the filter element. The bottom of the bowl had what looks like several black 'balls' in it about 1/2" in diameter which do not fit thru the drain. I have no clue what they are but guess maybe some compound made from diesel fuel (or contaminants within it). Without disassembling the unit, I don't know how to get them out or dissolved or whether I need to. This Racor is almost impossible to reach in my engine compartment so whatever I do will be a PITA. Any suggestions on what to do--if anything? Charlie Nelson Water Phantom 1995 C 36 XL/kcb -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 11:15 am Subject: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories I was on the pier couple weeks ago when a neighbor boat owner told me he was coming in off the lake and couldn't get full rpm on his diesel. He asked if I thought it could be the fuel filter being blinded. I said yes and asked when was the last time he changed the element. His reply? 35 years! I asked if he knew where it was. :) He did. It was an old Perko 209. Google it for a picture. We couldn't remove the screw on top with it in the boat. The entire unit twisted and it started coming off the bulkhead. We removed the unit to the dock and used a large wrenches to take it apart. Inside was a ceramic permanent element. I was unbelievably plugged up. About 1/8 inch of crud all around it. I told him to go get a can of carburetor cleaner and clean it. Took him a few applications of the cleaner but it cleaned up. Reinstalled it and diesel runs fine. On the other hand, I had to change the fuel filter element on Touche' this weekend on the way to Pensacola. I have vacuum gauge on it. It started easing into the red. There was only 100 hours on it. The previous element lasted over 400 hours. Very strange. I had just removed the fuel tank couple months ago and the fuel looked very clean. You just don't know. A batch of bad fuel perhaps? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories
Speaking of fuel issues, I recently drained my Racor MA 500 (?) fuel/water separator and replaced the filter element. The bottom of the bowl had what looks like several black 'balls' in it about 1/2" in diameter which do not fit thru the drain. I have no clue what they are but guess maybe some compound made from diesel fuel (or contaminants within it). Without disassembling the unit, I don't know how to get them out or dissolved or whether I need to. This Racor is almost impossible to reach in my engine compartment so whatever I do will be a PITA. Any suggestions on what to do--if anything? Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C 36 XL/kcb -Original Message- From: Dennis C. via CnC-List To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Sent: Wed, May 29, 2019 11:15 am Subject: Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories I was on the pier couple weeks ago when a neighbor boat owner told me he was coming in off the lake and couldn't get full rpm on his diesel. He asked if I thought it could be the fuel filter being blinded. I said yes and asked when was the last time he changed the element. His reply? 35 years! I asked if he knew where it was. :) He did. It was an old Perko 209. Google it for a picture. We couldn't remove the screw on top with it in the boat. The entire unit twisted and it started coming off the bulkhead. We removed the unit to the dock and used a large wrenches to take it apart. Inside was a ceramic permanent element. I was unbelievably plugged up. About 1/8 inch of crud all around it. I told him to go get a can of carburetor cleaner and clean it. Took him a few applications of the cleaner but it cleaned up. Reinstalled it and diesel runs fine. On the other hand, I had to change the fuel filter element on Touche' this weekend on the way to Pensacola. I have vacuum gauge on it. It started easing into the red. There was only 100 hours on it. The previous element lasted over 400 hours. Very strange. I had just removed the fuel tank couple months ago and the fuel looked very clean. You just don't know. A batch of bad fuel perhaps? Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Fuel filter maintenance stories
I was on the pier couple weeks ago when a neighbor boat owner told me he was coming in off the lake and couldn't get full rpm on his diesel. He asked if I thought it could be the fuel filter being blinded. I said yes and asked when was the last time he changed the element. His reply? 35 years! I asked if he knew where it was. :) He did. It was an old Perko 209. Google it for a picture. We couldn't remove the screw on top with it in the boat. The entire unit twisted and it started coming off the bulkhead. We removed the unit to the dock and used a large wrenches to take it apart. Inside was a ceramic permanent element. I was unbelievably plugged up. About 1/8 inch of crud all around it. I told him to go get a can of carburetor cleaner and clean it. Took him a few applications of the cleaner but it cleaned up. Reinstalled it and diesel runs fine. On the other hand, I had to change the fuel filter element on Touche' this weekend on the way to Pensacola. I have vacuum gauge on it. It started easing into the red. There was only 100 hours on it. The previous element lasted over 400 hours. Very strange. I had just removed the fuel tank couple months ago and the fuel looked very clean. You just don't know. A batch of bad fuel perhaps? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
