Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
So I got a new belt from Ebay and have tried to install it and am having problems. The lever used to have a positive lock when moved to the engage position. Now the whole arm is floppy all the time. I also cannot find a position of the adjusting cam where the belt is engaged in the engage position and disengaged in the disengage position. It is locked in most places. I am testing by simple trying to rotate the two halves of the mechanism independently of each other. Is that the right way to adjust (the manual talks about attaching power and measuring amperage but that seems overkill if you can't rotate it). Any ideas? Thanks- Dave David KnechtAries1990 CC 34+New London, CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
Sounds like it is longer? Did you count the teeth and compare it to your old one? Bill Coleman CC 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 6:09 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem So I got a new belt from Ebay and have tried to install it and am having problems. The lever used to have a positive lock when moved to the engage position. Now the whole arm is floppy all the time. I also cannot find a position of the adjusting cam where the belt is engaged in the engage position and disengaged in the disengage position. It is locked in most places. I am testing by simple trying to rotate the two halves of the mechanism independently of each other. Is that the right way to adjust (the manual talks about attaching power and measuring amperage but that seems overkill if you can't rotate it). Any ideas? Thanks- Dave David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT image001.gifimage002.png___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
David,My Simrad WP30 used to stick badly when disengaged. It stuck to the point we could barely turn the wheel. I thought it might be salt build up. I usually sprayed water into it from the cockpit shower and it would release for a while then start to stick again.The problem was the belt. I had bought a replacement belt off eBay some years back. The belt was made in France. The French-made belt felt "sticky". I did the research, found the belt was a standard timing belt and purchased a Gates brand belt online from Royal Rubber. The Gates brand belt did not feel sticky. After swapping the belts, the WP30 has worked flawlessly. Wheel spins freely when WP30 is disengaged.Don't know if your Raymarine issue is similar.Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LAFrom: David Knecht davidakne...@gmail.com To: j...@dellabarba.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem Hi Joe- Have you ever had the problem where it does not release wheel control when you flip the lever? I still don't know what caused that. DaveOn Oct 3, 2013, at 9:05 AM, "Joe Della Barba" j...@dellabarba.com wrote:Mine has an issue where it randomly releasesLI “fixed” it with a bungee, but does anyone know what part is causing this?I have fixed the opposite issue where it won’t work because the drive pin shears about 5 times from buying the thing in 1989 to now.BTW – do not EVER let all the plastic gears come apart. It is about 20 times harder than a Rubik’s Cube to get them back in correctly. Raytheon ended up fixing it for me on the condition I never ever call them or send them any parts of the autopilot again.Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK Ij...@dellabarba.com ___This List is provided by the CC Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com David KnechtAries1990 CC 34+New London, CT ___This List is provided by the CC Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
I wish the WP30 was still available – love my unit! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: October-03-13 9:47 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem David, My Simrad WP30 used to stick badly when disengaged. It stuck to the point we could barely turn the wheel. I thought it might be salt build up. I usually sprayed water into it from the cockpit shower and it would release for a while then start to stick again. The problem was the belt. I had bought a replacement belt off eBay some years back. The belt was made in France. The French-made belt felt sticky. I did the research, found the belt was a standard timing belt and purchased a Gates brand belt online from Royal Rubber. The Gates brand belt did not feel sticky. After swapping the belts, the WP30 has worked flawlessly. Wheel spins freely when WP30 is disengaged. Don't know if your Raymarine issue is similar. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA _ From: David Knecht davidakne...@gmail.com To: j...@dellabarba.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem Hi Joe- Have you ever had the problem where it does not release wheel control when you flip the lever? I still don't know what caused that. Dave On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com wrote: Mine has an issue where it randomly releases L I “fixed” it with a bungee, but does anyone know what part is causing this? I have fixed the opposite issue where it won’t work because the drive pin shears about 5 times from buying the thing in 1989 to now. BTW – do not EVER let all the plastic gears come apart. It is about 20 times harder than a Rubik’s Cube to get them back in correctly. Raytheon ended up fixing it for me on the condition I never ever call them or send them any parts of the autopilot again. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I mailto:j...@dellabarba.com j...@dellabarba.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ http://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com image001.png___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
Joe, Mine did that and the local Raymarine dealer had me tighten the belt. I had to fiddle with it for a while but I'm not using the bungee cord anymore. Good luck, Mike Virginia Lee, CC 36 CB Virginia Beach, VA Sent from my iPad On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:05, Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com wrote: Mine has an issue where it randomly releases L I “fixed” it with a bungee, but does anyone know what part is causing this? I have fixed the opposite issue where it won’t work because the drive pin shears about 5 times from buying the thing in 1989 to now. BTW – do not EVER let all the plastic gears come apart. It is about 20 times harder than a Rubik’s Cube to get them back in correctly. Raytheon ended up fixing it for me on the condition I never ever call them or send them any parts of the autopilot again. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I j...@dellabarba.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
It may be a different problem, but the cam is attached to flipper post by two 1/32 inch, I think, roller pins. I had this problem and these were sheered off allowing cam to go too far and lock the pilot on. Purchased replacement pins at a local Fastenal store. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater, Mi Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Mike Brannon ff1...@aol.com To: j...@dellabarba.com j...@dellabarba.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2013 10:49 AM Joe, Mine did that and the local Raymarine dealer had me tighten the belt. I had to fiddle with it for a while but I'm not using the bungee cord anymore. Good luck, Mike Virginia Lee, CC 36 CB Virginia Beach, VA Sent from my iPad On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:05, Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com wrote: Mine has an issue where it randomly releases L I “fixed” it with a bungee, but does anyone know what part is causing this? I have fixed the opposite issue where it won’t work because the drive pin shears about 5 times from buying the thing in 1989 to now. BTW – do not EVER let all the plastic gears come apart. It is about 20 times harder than a Rubik’s Cube to get them back in correctly. Raytheon ended up fixing it for me on the condition I never ever call them or send them any parts of the autopilot again. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I j...@dellabarba.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
Hey Dennis - Do you remember the Gates part number? I've swapped belts twice now, and the only one that has worked for me has been the Polybelt. I put an Ametric belt on with the same exact specs and it didn't work well. I made it work for a year, but it was a worry. Wal Dennis C. wrote: The Gates brand belt did not feel sticky. After swapping the belts, the WP30 has worked flawlessly. Wheel spins freely when WP30 is disengaged. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
As I mentioned before, I have had this problem both with my old wheel unit and a new to me unit. The problem goes away when I shut off the power to the autohelm. Being a simpleton, I am of the opinion that the problem lies within the controller and not the wheel drive. Jonathan _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:34 AM To: j...@dellabarba.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem Hi Joe- Have you ever had the problem where it does not release wheel control when you flip the lever? I still don't know what caused that. Dave On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com wrote: Mine has an issue where it randomly releases :-( I fixed it with a bungee, but does anyone know what part is causing this? I have fixed the opposite issue where it won't work because the drive pin shears about 5 times from buying the thing in 1989 to now. BTW - do not EVER let all the plastic gears come apart. It is about 20 times harder than a Rubik's Cube to get them back in correctly. Raytheon ended up fixing it for me on the condition I never ever call them or send them any parts of the autopilot again. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I mailto:j...@dellabarba.com j...@dellabarba.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com http://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT image001.jpg___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
Hi, Wal -- here's a clip from an earlier emil from Dennis: Following up on the Simrad WP30 belt: Gates Synchro-power Belt #AT5-825. Online research indicates it is 10mm wide but it might be a 12mm width. I will try to measure the old belt next week when I'm back on the boat. Both widths (AT5-825-10 and AT5-825-12) are available for $12-14 from royalsupply.com in Ohio. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA -- Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Wally Bryant w...@wbryant.com wrote: Hey Dennis - Do you remember the Gates part number? I've swapped belts twice now, and the only one that has worked for me has been the Polybelt. I put an Ametric belt on with the same exact specs and it didn't work well. I made it work for a year, but it was a worry. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
That's it. Go with the 10mm. AT5-825-10 Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA From: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem Hi, Wal -- here's a clip from an earlier emil from Dennis: Following up on the Simrad WP30 belt: Gates Synchro-power Belt #AT5-825. Online research indicates it is 10mm wide but it might be a 12mm width. I will try to measure the old belt next week when I'm back on the boat. Both widths (AT5-825-10 and AT5-825-12) are available for $12-14 from royalsupply.com in Ohio. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA -- Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Wally Bryant w...@wbryant.com wrote: Hey Dennis - Do you remember the Gates part number? I've swapped belts twice now, and the only one that has worked for me has been the Polybelt. I put an Ametric belt on with the same exact specs and it didn't work well. I made it work for a year, but it was a worry. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
Hi David,I really misread your original problem. I thought the autopilot wouldn't engage, but your problem was it wouldn't release. That's a neat piece of seamanship to drop sails and anchor before the race, remove the wheel drive and restart the race.It must be an older model autohelm if it won't come apart like mine. I replaced the belt on mine and it was fairly simple.You can try to google "how to take apart make and model".(If you decide to buy a new one, the below deck units are supposed to be a lot better and well worth the extra bucks and extra work required to install.)ChuckResolute1990 CC 34RAtlantic City, NJFrom: "Chuck S" cscheaf...@comcast.netTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:22:15 PMSubject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problemIt may simply be a loose belt? There is a tensioner for that if it is a 4000 Plus.Another bandaid fix is to shockcord the clutch lever so it can't release on you. Check the mechanicals first. RayMarine recommends washing it out with fresh water periodically. Good luck. ChuckResolute1990 CC 34RAtlantic City, NJFrom: "David Knecht" davidakne...@gmail.comTo: "CnC CnC discussion list" CnC-List@cnc-list.comSent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 5:52:29 PMSubject: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problemI had a problem with my autopilot today I could use some feedback on. For the last few weeks, the lever that engages/disengages the autopilot would periodically release so that the autopilot ceased being able to turn the wheel. Once engaged, it seemed to work fine, but the initial engagement seemed to not always stay locked in. Today, as luck would have it, I was maneuvering in the 10 minutes before that start gun, engaged the pilot to make and adjustment forward, and could not get it to disengage. The wheel was effectively locked so I could steer with the autopilot, but not by hand. After futzing with it for a few minutes, (trying to not hit someone trying to start) I gave up, lowered the sails, threw out the anchor and proceeded to remove the unit from the wheel. We only started a few minutes late, but it was annoying to say the least. I have brought the unit home and I can see no way to get inside it to see if I can figure out what is going on with the connect/disconnect lever. No disassembly instructions in the manual. Is this a "send it back to the factory", "throw it in the trash" or other solution? Thanks- Dave David KnechtAries1990 CC 34+New London, CT ___This List is provided by the CC Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com___This List is provided by the CC Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
Hi Chuck- Thanks for the info. I got it apart after reading several posts form listers. I was presuming there were hidden screws somewhere and was not expecting a friction fit. Two of the supports were broken and I suspect that I inserted the paint scraper I used in too far and levered against them- something no one noted in their instructions for disassembly. It will be simple to bolt them back before reassembly, so no problem there. I still cannot see anything that would cause it not to release so we shall see when reassembled. I have ordered a new belt on ebay, but am thinking hard about replacing the whole wheel unit with a ST4000+ MKII or the whole pilot (Evo 100). If the new belt works, I will use it for the season and think about the other options for the spring. Dave On Oct 2, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net wrote: Hi David, I really misread your original problem. I thought the autopilot wouldn't engage, but your problem was it wouldn't release. That's a neat piece of seamanship to drop sails and anchor before the race, remove the wheel drive and restart the race. It must be an older model autohelm if it won't come apart like mine. I replaced the belt on mine and it was fairly simple. You can try to google how to take apart make and model. (If you decide to buy a new one, the below deck units are supposed to be a lot better and well worth the extra bucks and extra work required to install.) Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ From: Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:22:15 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem It may simply be a loose belt? There is a tensioner for that if it is a 4000 Plus. Another bandaid fix is to shockcord the clutch lever so it can't release on you. Check the mechanicals first. RayMarine recommends washing it out with fresh water periodically. Good luck. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ From: David Knecht davidakne...@gmail.com To: CnC CnC discussion list CnC-List@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 5:52:29 PM Subject: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem I had a problem with my autopilot today I could use some feedback on. For the last few weeks, the lever that engages/disengages the autopilot would periodically release so that the autopilot ceased being able to turn the wheel. Once engaged, it seemed to work fine, but the initial engagement seemed to not always stay locked in. Today, as luck would have it, I was maneuvering in the 10 minutes before that start gun, engaged the pilot to make and adjustment forward, and could not get it to disengage. The wheel was effectively locked so I could steer with the autopilot, but not by hand. After futzing with it for a few minutes, (trying to not hit someone trying to start) I gave up, lowered the sails, threw out the anchor and proceeded to remove the unit from the wheel. We only started a few minutes late, but it was annoying to say the least. I have brought the unit home and I can see no way to get inside it to see if I can figure out what is going on with the connect/disconnect lever. No disassembly instructions in the manual. Is this a send it back to the factory, throw it in the trash or other solution? Thanks- Dave David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT pastedGraphic.tiff ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com David Knecht, Ph.D. Professor and Head of Microscopy Facility Department of Molecular and Cell Biology U-3125 91 N. Eagleville Rd. University of Connecticut Storrs, CT 06269 860-486-2200 860-486-4331 (fax) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
I had the reverse problem, my clutch wouldn't stay engaged. The clutch mechanism is very simple. Once you take it apart I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out. You can use a flathead screwdriver like another lister mentioned, I just ripped the two sides apart using brute force... a finesse type of brute force, I didn't want to break anything. Sounds to me like you can push the lever away but it doesn't disengage? Moving the lever has no effect? There is a cam that's part of that lever assembly and it's held in place with two tiny pins. Once those pins break the cam can turn free of the lever .. that was my problem, might not be the same problem but that's where I'de start. Good luck. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:56 PM, John Russo johnrussob...@optonline.netwrote: I have had good results by Contacting Raymarine on their technical forum. Either direct answers from them or from other members. Try following site. ** ** http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=1154 ** ** John Arpeggio CC 32 ** ** ** ** *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David Knecht *Sent:* Sunday, September 29, 2013 5:52 PM *To:* CnC CnC discussion list *Subject:* Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem ** ** I had a problem with my autopilot today I could use some feedback on. For the last few weeks, the lever that engages/disengages the autopilot would periodically release so that the autopilot ceased being able to turn the wheel. Once engaged, it seemed to work fine, but the initial engagement seemed to not always stay locked in. Today, as luck would have it, I was maneuvering in the 10 minutes before that start gun, engaged the pilot to make and adjustment forward, and could not get it to disengage. The wheel was effectively locked so I could steer with the autopilot, but not by hand. After futzing with it for a few minutes, (trying to not hit someone trying to start) I gave up, lowered the sails, threw out the anchor and proceeded to remove the unit from the wheel. We only started a few minutes late, but it was annoying to say the least. I have brought the unit home and I can see no way to get inside it to see if I can figure out what is going on with the connect/disconnect lever. No disassembly instructions in the manual. Is this a send it back to the factory, throw it in the trash or other solution? Thanks- Dave ** ** ** ** David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT ** ** ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com image001.png___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
I had a problem with my autopilot today I could use some feedback on. For the last few weeks, the lever that engages/disengages the autopilot would periodically release so that the autopilot ceased being able to turn the wheel. Once engaged, it seemed to work fine, but the initial engagement seemed to not always stay locked in. Today, as luck would have it, I was maneuvering in the 10 minutes before that start gun, engaged the pilot to make and adjustment forward, and could not get it to disengage. The wheel was effectively locked so I could steer with the autopilot, but not by hand. After futzing with it for a few minutes, (trying to not hit someone trying to start) I gave up, lowered the sails, threw out the anchor and proceeded to remove the unit from the wheel. We only started a few minutes late, but it was annoying to say the least. I have brought the unit home and I can see no way to get inside it to see if I can figure out what is going on with the connect/disconnect lever. No disassembly instructions in the manual. Is this a "send it back to the factory", "throw it in the trash" or other solution? Thanks- Dave David KnechtAries1990 CC 34+New London, CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Dave, Service Manual sent to you off list. Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 CC 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht Sent: September-29-13 18:52 To: CnC CnC discussion list Subject: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem I had a problem with my autopilot today I could use some feedback on. For the last few weeks, the lever that engages/disengages the autopilot would periodically release so that the autopilot ceased being able to turn the wheel. Once engaged, it seemed to work fine, but the initial engagement seemed to not always stay locked in. Today, as luck would have it, I was maneuvering in the 10 minutes before that start gun, engaged the pilot to make and adjustment forward, and could not get it to disengage. The wheel was effectively locked so I could steer with the autopilot, but not by hand. After futzing with it for a few minutes, (trying to not hit someone trying to start) I gave up, lowered the sails, threw out the anchor and proceeded to remove the unit from the wheel. We only started a few minutes late, but it was annoying to say the least. I have brought the unit home and I can see no way to get inside it to see if I can figure out what is going on with the connect/disconnect lever. No disassembly instructions in the manual. Is this a send it back to the factory, throw it in the trash or other solution? Thanks- Dave David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6708 - Release Date: 09/29/13 attachment: image001.png___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
I had exactly the same problem. Changed out the wheel unit with a new-to-me (but better condition) unit. Thought that solved the problem. Did it again! I found that if I switch off the power to the controller I do not have the problem. I know only switch on the auto helm power when I am using it - and switch it off whenever I steer by hand. Clearly the problem lies with the controller - and mine is the old black unit - so no chance of repair / replacement!! -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Sep 29, 2013, at 17:52, David Knecht davidakne...@gmail.com wrote: I had a problem with my autopilot today I could use some feedback on. For the last few weeks, the lever that engages/disengages the autopilot would periodically release so that the autopilot ceased being able to turn the wheel. Once engaged, it seemed to work fine, but the initial engagement seemed to not always stay locked in. Today, as luck would have it, I was maneuvering in the 10 minutes before that start gun, engaged the pilot to make and adjustment forward, and could not get it to disengage. The wheel was effectively locked so I could steer with the autopilot, but not by hand. After futzing with it for a few minutes, (trying to not hit someone trying to start) I gave up, lowered the sails, threw out the anchor and proceeded to remove the unit from the wheel. We only started a few minutes late, but it was annoying to say the least. I have brought the unit home and I can see no way to get inside it to see if I can figure out what is going on with the connect/disconnect lever. No disassembly instructions in the manual. Is this a send it back to the factory, throw it in the trash or other solution? Thanks- Dave David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT pastedGraphic.tiff ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
It may simply be a loose belt? There is a tensioner for that if it is a 4000 Plus.Another bandaid fix is to shockcord the clutch lever so it can't release on you. Check the mechanicals first. RayMarine recommends washing it out with fresh water periodically. Good luck. ChuckResolute1990 CC 34RAtlantic City, NJFrom: "David Knecht" davidakne...@gmail.comTo: "CnC CnC discussion list" CnC-List@cnc-list.comSent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 5:52:29 PMSubject: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problemI had a problem with my autopilot today I could use some feedback on. For the last few weeks, the lever that engages/disengages the autopilot would periodically release so that the autopilot ceased being able to turn the wheel. Once engaged, it seemed to work fine, but the initial engagement seemed to not always stay locked in. Today, as luck would have it, I was maneuvering in the 10 minutes before that start gun, engaged the pilot to make and adjustment forward, and could not get it to disengage. The wheel was effectively locked so I could steer with the autopilot, but not by hand. After futzing with it for a few minutes, (trying to not hit someone trying to start) I gave up, lowered the sails, threw out the anchor and proceeded to remove the unit from the wheel. We only started a few minutes late, but it was annoying to say the least. I have brought the unit home and I can see no way to get inside it to see if I can figure out what is going on with the connect/disconnect lever. No disassembly instructions in the manual. Is this a "send it back to the factory", "throw it in the trash" or other solution? Thanks- Dave David KnechtAries1990 CC 34+New London, CT ___This List is provided by the CC Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem
I have had good results by Contacting Raymarine on their technical forum. Either direct answers from them or from other members. Try following site. http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=1154 John Arpeggio CC 32 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 5:52 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Subject: Stus-List Raymarine ST4000 autopilot problem I had a problem with my autopilot today I could use some feedback on. For the last few weeks, the lever that engages/disengages the autopilot would periodically release so that the autopilot ceased being able to turn the wheel. Once engaged, it seemed to work fine, but the initial engagement seemed to not always stay locked in. Today, as luck would have it, I was maneuvering in the 10 minutes before that start gun, engaged the pilot to make and adjustment forward, and could not get it to disengage. The wheel was effectively locked so I could steer with the autopilot, but not by hand. After futzing with it for a few minutes, (trying to not hit someone trying to start) I gave up, lowered the sails, threw out the anchor and proceeded to remove the unit from the wheel. We only started a few minutes late, but it was annoying to say the least. I have brought the unit home and I can see no way to get inside it to see if I can figure out what is going on with the connect/disconnect lever. No disassembly instructions in the manual. Is this a send it back to the factory, throw it in the trash or other solution? Thanks- Dave David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT attachment: image001.png___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com