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Hey Shawn, Might be a bit of an optical illusion on the main sheet, boom is pushed out for the solar, clearance is fine, boat has a traveler. No baby, inner forestay or track on the foredeck. The line you're seeing is the spinnaker halyard I think. Boat came with the davits, I think they are rated for 300lbs. We have a highfield 310 with a 15h 4stroke, the only time I put the dinghy on deck is in the winter before the boat gets wrapped, lives on the davits the rest of the season. *Kevin Wright* Raven 1985 Landfall 43 Midland ON On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 2:56 PM Shawn Wright wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > Thanks for the feedback. Raven looks great! How is the mainsheet clearance > for the aft end of the enclosure? Looks like it might be close. Do you have > a traveller or just two blocks for the mainsheet? It looks like you don't > have the inner forestay, but do have a babystay? I notice most LF43s have a > traveller track just forward of the mast, which I assume is for a self > tacking staysail on a boom? I've only seen one fully rigged as a cutter > with furling staysail, but am not sure how it's all rigged. > Sounds like the lack of deck storage can be mitigated in a few ways, maybe > with some of the storage across from the engine. > I've been aboard a few CC boats (Hylas, Whitby, Moody, Taswell, Westerly) > and of course the cockpit when enclosed is great, and the interiors are > usually amazing, but I have never sailed one. I expect the > improved visibility will be welcome. I was going to ask about your dinghy - > are those storage hangers on the stern of Raven? Have you stored it on the > foredeck before? > > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com > S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Hi Kevin, Thanks for the feedback. Raven looks great! How is the mainsheet clearance for the aft end of the enclosure? Looks like it might be close. Do you have a traveller or just two blocks for the mainsheet? It looks like you don't have the inner forestay, but do have a babystay? I notice most LF43s have a traveller track just forward of the mast, which I assume is for a self tacking staysail on a boom? I've only seen one fully rigged as a cutter with furling staysail, but am not sure how it's all rigged. Sounds like the lack of deck storage can be mitigated in a few ways, maybe with some of the storage across from the engine. I've been aboard a few CC boats (Hylas, Whitby, Moody, Taswell, Westerly) and of course the cockpit when enclosed is great, and the interiors are usually amazing, but I have never sailed one. I expect the improved visibility will be welcome. I was going to ask about your dinghy - are those storage hangers on the stern of Raven? Have you stored it on the foredeck before? -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 4:25 PM Kevin Wright wrote: > Hi Shawn, > I had an Olson 30 I raced on lake Ontario, the Landfall is not that. It > sails well for being a 43' cruising boat (modified fin, short rig). To > be honest, I don't pay too much attention to how fast we're going and how > much wind there is. When there's wind we sail, when we drop below 2 knots > we fire up the engine and get to where we want to be. All that being said, > it's a great boat. Maybe someone else can chime in here with better info. > > As for deck storage it has the 2 aft deck lockers, one is for a 20lb > propane tank (Fits snug) the starboard side is more than twice as big, we > store a second tank and flippers and masks etc. There's a line locker on > the port side next to the cockpit, we keep all our dock lines and a 10L > jerry can and has room for 2 small bags of garbage. The boat has no place > to store sails, when we go on vacation we store the kite in the shower with > the extra beer. The anchor locker is big, on top of the chain and rode for > the 2 anchors we keep the portable generator there with lots of room to > spare. > > I find the cockpit to be plenty big and comfortable, no complaints. All > center cockpits are not easy to get in and out of if they have an > enclosure, probably one of the reasons why the backrest are the > height they are. We have a full enclosure at one height (see link below) > like having an extra living room in all weather. I upgraded to a folding > 40" wheel, which makes it feel a bit more racy :) > > I looked at the boat on FB, ours is set up a bit differently. Where the FB > boat has the captain's birth we have workbench and shelves. Below that is > lots of storage. > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1kn0cmw1nk3aqo/20220815.jpg?dl=0 > > *Kevin Wright* > Raven > 1985 Landfall 43 > Midland ON > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Hi Dave, Yes, I have spent far too much time thinking about and looking at boats, and it gets exhausting. I have looked at a few Whitbys, and while they are comfortable, look ok, and have a nice layout, the full keel is a turn off for me, and I find their fit and finish pretty mediocre inside. The later Brewer 44 is a much nicer boat, but way too expensive. We have widened the search to pretty much all of North America, as although BC has lots of boats, few are for sale, and the prices are much higher. Although travelling to buy a boat could be a real pain, if there is a savings and the boat is right for us, we may have to do it. It will be made easier if the boat is near cruise ready condition of course. The Landfall 43 we're looking at is currently cruising, but I am beginning to have my doubts about the experience of the young couple, as some of their answers indicate a lack of knowledge or concern for things like rig, chainplates, and water leaks. They also tore out the stock fridge/freezer and installed a Novacool front load fridge, which seems really awkward, and not a suitable move for long range cruising. My guess is they bought the boat cheap to go cruising with their young family, and didn't consider it a long term purchase. What kind of sailing do you plan for your Ovni? I've only seen one, but they seem like really nice boats. -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 4:22 PM Dave S wrote: > Interesting and you’ve obviously thought it through. Great fun looking > and pondering. I do struggle with the ‘80s centre cockpit types, for > reasons I mentioned, despite feeling otherwise at one point. (And really > wanting to love and buy an amel super maramu before locking in on the > OVNI).There are whitby 42s around here among others that come up from > time to time, they seem like real bargains for someone looking at that > range/type. > I was in Kingston once and a c 44 pulled in, single handed by a super > nice older-than-me guy. Boat totally equipped for offshore which the owner > intimated might never happen. no expense spared, which at first impressed > me then I thought about why the various compromises may not work very well. >But…. With all that gear removed- breathtaking lines.RIP Rob Ball. > I was tempted by a landfall 48 at one point, was in the yard here (whitby > ON) for a long time before it sold. Deep draft, which around here can be > an issue. Seemed like a lot of boat for the money, though of course > there’s no such thing as a cheap boat. > Offshore boats are thin on the ground around here and even in Nova Scotia > where I had a place and where my dad lives. I actually spent time in > Brittany boat shopping as a result. Incredible. As hockey is to canada, > sailing is to France. > Should be no shortage of boats in your neck of the woods though, Happy > hunting. > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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I have, they are not too common, and usually well out of our price range. -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 5:49 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Looked at a Caliber 40 LRC? > > -- > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Caliber’s are Island Packet knock-offs Neil Andersen, W3NEA Rock Hall, MD 21661 484-354-8800 From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 8:48:14 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Stus-List Re: Landfall 43 opinions Looked at a Caliber 40 LRC? -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Looked at a Caliber 40 LRC? -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Hi Shawn, I had an Olson 30 I raced on lake Ontario, the Landfall is not that. It sails well for being a 43' cruising boat (modified fin, short rig). To be honest, I don't pay too much attention to how fast we're going and how much wind there is. When there's wind we sail, when we drop below 2 knots we fire up the engine and get to where we want to be. All that being said, it's a great boat. Maybe someone else can chime in here with better info. As for deck storage it has the 2 aft deck lockers, one is for a 20lb propane tank (Fits snug) the starboard side is more than twice as big, we store a second tank and flippers and masks etc. There's a line locker on the port side next to the cockpit, we keep all our dock lines and a 10L jerry can and has room for 2 small bags of garbage. The boat has no place to store sails, when we go on vacation we store the kite in the shower with the extra beer. The anchor locker is big, on top of the chain and rode for the 2 anchors we keep the portable generator there with lots of room to spare. I find the cockpit to be plenty big and comfortable, no complaints. All center cockpits are not easy to get in and out of if they have an enclosure, probably one of the reasons why the backrest are the height they are. We have a full enclosure at one height (see link below) like having an extra living room in all weather. I upgraded to a folding 40" wheel, which makes it feel a bit more racy :) I looked at the boat on FB, ours is set up a bit differently. Where the FB boat has the captain's birth we have workbench and shelves. Below that is lots of storage. https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1kn0cmw1nk3aqo/20220815.jpg?dl=0 *Kevin Wright* Raven 1985 Landfall 43 Midland ON Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Interesting and you’ve obviously thought it through. Great fun looking and pondering. I do struggle with the ‘80s centre cockpit types, for reasons I mentioned, despite feeling otherwise at one point. (And really wanting to love and buy an amel super maramu before locking in on the OVNI).There are whitby 42s around here among others that come up from time to time, they seem like real bargains for someone looking at that range/type. I was in Kingston once and a c 44 pulled in, single handed by a super nice older-than-me guy. Boat totally equipped for offshore which the owner intimated might never happen. no expense spared, which at first impressed me then I thought about why the various compromises may not work very well. But…. With all that gear removed- breathtaking lines.RIP Rob Ball. I was tempted by a landfall 48 at one point, was in the yard here (whitby ON) for a long time before it sold. Deep draft, which around here can be an issue. Seemed like a lot of boat for the money, though of course there’s no such thing as a cheap boat. Offshore boats are thin on the ground around here and even in Nova Scotia where I had a place and where my dad lives. I actually spent time in Brittany boat shopping as a result. Incredible. As hockey is to canada, sailing is to France. Should be no shortage of boats in your neck of the woods though, Happy hunting. Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2023, at 4:44 PM, Shawn Wright wrote: > > > Hi Dave, > > Thanks for chiming in, some good points there. I have noticed that > relationship between cockpit sole height/boom height and aft cabin space, and > it is one thing I dislike about many of the newer C, although I could > probably get used to it. I recall spending a few hours in a 37+ and then > returning to our 35 and remarking how much more comfortable it was. But the > 37+ had an aft cabin. The 41 seems to be a fair tradeoff, with at least one > large cockpit locker; the 44 is a no go for me. I'm not sure where the LF43 > falls, as I haven't seen one yet, and the photos don't give much clue to > locker space, but I suspect it is tight. I fit 4 jerry cans in my 35 lockers, > along with a big plastic tub with 600' of prawn line, prawn trap, crab trap, > etc. and it's still not full. I don't think any of the new boats have lockers > like this, so I just have to get used to carrying more junk on deck I guess. > The LF43 cockpit appears to have gone with a low coaming approach for looks, > and has tons of headroom below, so the seat backs are low, and there is poor > backrest space everywhere it appears. Can be fixed with some rigid back > folding cushions though. One thing I know that I will give up is the ability > to singlehand, at least to/from a dock. I just can't see getting any centre > cockpit boat onto a dock in any kind of wind or current. That is one big > difference between the 43 and say a LF38. But our future is to sail to Mexico > and beyond, so day and short trip sailing around the coast like we do now > will be much less frequent. We love the feeling of an open-ended cruise, and > have done 6 weeks aboard our 35 entirely at anchor a few times, usually with > a re-provision stop after 2-3 weeks. The ability to go even longer in a boat > like the 43 is very attractive, as is the comfort level of being on passage > in a much heavier boat. I love sailing our 35, but in most cases, if the wind > is steady and there is sea room, I'm also happy to let the autopilot take > over. Our 35 tracks pretty well, but the wheel pilot is only good in moderate > conditions. One of the factors influencing the decision is the realisation > that although my wife and I have done a 2800M passage on another boat, we're > not ready to do one on our own, so the boat we get must have room for crew, > both on passage, and at anchor. That means 3 sea berths, and two private > cabins. The LF43 works well, the LF38 would be tight, and the 40 without aft > cabin, or any earlier C with just a quarter berth, really wouldn't cut it > at anchor, although the sea berths are fine. > > It's all about the tradeoffs, and which things you're willing to let go of. > Friends sailed south in their Ovni last summer, and are past Mexico now. Once > when we sailed with the in our 35, we could point higher and started to catch > them, but they were a lot more comfortable in the cold! > > Even if this particular boat doesn't work out (it's a long shot, since the > boat is in Florida and we're in BC, so we'd have to change plans big time), I > hope to come out of the experience with a clear indicate of whether the LF43 > is still on our list of boats or not. Because the list of boats I like is far > too long, and those we can afford is far too short > > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com > S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto > > >> On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 12:54 PM
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Hi Dave, Thanks for chiming in, some good points there. I have noticed that relationship between cockpit sole height/boom height and aft cabin space, and it is one thing I dislike about many of the newer C, although I could probably get used to it. I recall spending a few hours in a 37+ and then returning to our 35 and remarking how much more comfortable it was. But the 37+ had an aft cabin. The 41 seems to be a fair tradeoff, with at least one large cockpit locker; the 44 is a no go for me. I'm not sure where the LF43 falls, as I haven't seen one yet, and the photos don't give much clue to locker space, but I suspect it is tight. I fit 4 jerry cans in my 35 lockers, along with a big plastic tub with 600' of prawn line, prawn trap, crab trap, etc. and it's still not full. I don't think any of the new boats have lockers like this, so I just have to get used to carrying more junk on deck I guess. The LF43 cockpit appears to have gone with a low coaming approach for looks, and has tons of headroom below, so the seat backs are low, and there is poor backrest space everywhere it appears. Can be fixed with some rigid back folding cushions though. One thing I know that I will give up is the ability to singlehand, at least to/from a dock. I just can't see getting any centre cockpit boat onto a dock in any kind of wind or current. That is one big difference between the 43 and say a LF38. But our future is to sail to Mexico and beyond, so day and short trip sailing around the coast like we do now will be much less frequent. We love the feeling of an open-ended cruise, and have done 6 weeks aboard our 35 entirely at anchor a few times, usually with a re-provision stop after 2-3 weeks. The ability to go even longer in a boat like the 43 is very attractive, as is the comfort level of being on passage in a much heavier boat. I love sailing our 35, but in most cases, if the wind is steady and there is sea room, I'm also happy to let the autopilot take over. Our 35 tracks pretty well, but the wheel pilot is only good in moderate conditions. One of the factors influencing the decision is the realisation that although my wife and I have done a 2800M passage on another boat, we're not ready to do one on our own, so the boat we get must have room for crew, both on passage, and at anchor. That means 3 sea berths, and two private cabins. The LF43 works well, the LF38 would be tight, and the 40 without aft cabin, or any earlier C with just a quarter berth, really wouldn't cut it at anchor, although the sea berths are fine. It's all about the tradeoffs, and which things you're willing to let go of. Friends sailed south in their Ovni last summer, and are past Mexico now. Once when we sailed with the in our 35, we could point higher and started to catch them, but they were a lot more comfortable in the cold! Even if this particular boat doesn't work out (it's a long shot, since the boat is in Florida and we're in BC, so we'd have to change plans big time), I hope to come out of the experience with a clear indicate of whether the LF43 is still on our list of boats or not. Because the list of boats I like is far too long, and those we can afford is far too short -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 12:54 PM Dave S wrote: > Shawn - Fwiw - I’ll chime in having spent many years going through this, > and having gotten comfortable with the various trade offs and just closed > the purchase of my next boat (alubat OVNI 435….) I’ve accepted that Driving > the OVNI will be more G-Wagen than Lotus… > IMO Any c is pretty moderate in design (vs a pogo or Colin archer) and > is performance-biased so it’ll probably ‘sail well’, broadly speaking. > The rest comes down to how you’ll REALLY be using the boat. How much time > to windward, how often consecutive overnight sails, how much loafing in the > comfy cockpit (go Hunter!) etc. I hadn’t fully thought it through when > boat shopping, and I got very lucky choosing windstar (c 33-2) in a lot > of ways. she can be single handed easily, and she goes to windward really > well in all conditions, and I’m comfortable sailing in any conditions I’ve > encountered here. I didn’t fully appreciate that for ‘out and back’ > sailing, I’d be spending most of my time on the wind, (and loving it) and I > wasn’t thinking much about singlehanding. Her cockpit is …. Tolerable > … for entertaining and while she ‘sleeps several’ she couldn’t keep them > hydrated for long. She has a big tall rig and here in Lake Ontario, that’s > great. All this is relevant, all good for how and where the boat is > used.She’s a great boat and I’ll miss the performance for sure. > Otoh My dad advised that when he cruised his steel cutter he rarely sailed > to windward, only steered when entering harbour or daysailing, and reefed > his stout, conservative rig at sunset. He really valued the pilot berth, > and hated not
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Shawn - Fwiw - I’ll chime in having spent many years going through this, and having gotten comfortable with the various trade offs and just closed the purchase of my next boat (alubat OVNI 435….) I’ve accepted that Driving the OVNI will be more G-Wagen than Lotus… IMO Any c is pretty moderate in design (vs a pogo or Colin archer) and is performance-biased so it’ll probably ‘sail well’, broadly speaking. The rest comes down to how you’ll REALLY be using the boat. How much time to windward, how often consecutive overnight sails, how much loafing in the comfy cockpit (go Hunter!) etc. I hadn’t fully thought it through when boat shopping, and I got very lucky choosing windstar (c 33-2) in a lot of ways. she can be single handed easily, and she goes to windward really well in all conditions, and I’m comfortable sailing in any conditions I’ve encountered here. I didn’t fully appreciate that for ‘out and back’ sailing, I’d be spending most of my time on the wind, (and loving it) and I wasn’t thinking much about singlehanding. Her cockpit is …. Tolerable … for entertaining and while she ‘sleeps several’ she couldn’t keep them hydrated for long. She has a big tall rig and here in Lake Ontario, that’s great. All this is relevant, all good for how and where the boat is used.She’s a great boat and I’ll miss the performance for sure. Otoh My dad advised that when he cruised his steel cutter he rarely sailed to windward, only steered when entering harbour or daysailing, and reefed his stout, conservative rig at sunset. He really valued the pilot berth, and hated not having ice. He also appreciated the ability to reduce sail and remain balanced, and the way she hove to.He told me a 150nm day was decent and that he was never too concerned about it. Not a lot said about light air performance, ever, but the boat was a moderate, modern (then) brewer design and no slug - it was a fun, respectable Wednesday night sailor- for what it was. In my recent search, in noticed a few things not often discussed: The relationship between cockpit sole height, boom height, dodger height and aft accommodation. Many newer boats have super tall dodgers, (rarely evident in brochure photos) shallow cockpits with no appreciable lockers, and condo-like master bedrooms. This is really evident in boats under say 45’. The ability to mount solar panels, stow a dinghy, and the ease of boarding are also things worth thinking about. (People treasure Amels for many good reasons, but….. ) In reeeally old boats, where does the propane tank go? Can you reach the Genoa sheets from the helm? Can you stretch out on the cockpit seats? Fun stuff. Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Hi Kevin and other Landfall 43 owners: > > "Sails well for what it is"... that's what concerns me... not sure I am ready > to sail a Hunter-bago! I know it won't accelerate or turn like my 35, but I > need to be sailing if there's wind, not motoring, as that would not work for > me. > So what is the minimum true wind speed you would sail in on a reach, and what > boat speed would you get? How much true wind do you need to get moving at > 7kts consistently? If you do offshore passages, what is a typical day, and > what is your best day range in 24 hrs? > How does it go upwind, and what is the AWA when closehauled and tuned for > best VMG? > > On a different topic, how is the cockpit, and locker storage on deck? The > cockpit looks a bit shallow/small, with no good back rests. There appears to > be two small aft deck lockers, and one port side aft locker; one of these I > assume is propane. How large/deep are the lockers? One of the reasons we > didn't like the 44 was minimal locker space on deck, so this is a concern > also. > > Thanks! > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com > S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto > > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 2:14 PM Kevin Wright via CnC-List > wrote: >> Hi Shawn, >> We have a 1985 Landfall 43 in Georgian Bay, going into our 3 season. Love >> the boat has all the room we need and more and it sails well for what it is. >> Haven't had any major issues, like David, our engine was replaced with a >> 55hp Westerbeke and does 7 knots without any problems. The only thing we >> wished it had was some sort of sugar scoop to make it easier to get in and >> out of the dingy. I'm heading to the boat tomorrow to take some transom >> measurements to have a swim platform fabricated to help with that. Let us >> know how it turns out! >> >> Kevin Wright >> Raven >> 1985 Landfall 43 >> Midland ON > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help > me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site
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Hi Kevin and other Landfall 43 owners: "Sails well for what it is"... that's what concerns me... not sure I am ready to sail a Hunter-bago! I know it won't accelerate or turn like my 35, but I need to be sailing if there's wind, not motoring, as that would not work for me. So what is the minimum true wind speed you would sail in on a reach, and what boat speed would you get? How much true wind do you need to get moving at 7kts consistently? If you do offshore passages, what is a typical day, and what is your best day range in 24 hrs? How does it go upwind, and what is the AWA when closehauled and tuned for best VMG? On a different topic, how is the cockpit, and locker storage on deck? The cockpit looks a bit shallow/small, with no good back rests. There appears to be two small aft deck lockers, and one port side aft locker; one of these I assume is propane. How large/deep are the lockers? One of the reasons we didn't like the 44 was minimal locker space on deck, so this is a concern also. Thanks! -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 2:14 PM Kevin Wright via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Shawn, > We have a 1985 Landfall 43 in Georgian Bay, going into our 3 season. Love > the boat has all the room we need and more and it sails well for what it > is. Haven't had any major issues, like David, our engine was replaced with > a 55hp Westerbeke and does 7 knots without any problems. The only thing we > wished it had was some sort of sugar scoop to make it easier to get in and > out of the dingy. I'm heading to the boat tomorrow to take some > transom measurements to have a swim platform fabricated to help with that. > Let us know how it turns out! > > *Kevin Wright* > Raven > 1985 Landfall 43 > Midland ON > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Hi Shawn, We have a 1985 Landfall 43 in Georgian Bay, going into our 3 season. Love the boat has all the room we need and more and it sails well for what it is. Haven't had any major issues, like David, our engine was replaced with a 55hp Westerbeke and does 7 knots without any problems. The only thing we wished it had was some sort of sugar scoop to make it easier to get in and out of the dingy. I'm heading to the boat tomorrow to take some transom measurements to have a swim platform fabricated to help with that. Let us know how it turns out! *Kevin Wright* Raven 1985 Landfall 43 Midland ON On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 1:15 PM david coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Shawn we have a 1984 Landfall 43 for the last 16 years.We like it and > think it is very comfortable.Like you we did it based on best boat for our > budget.I think they all leak around the fixed ports and I have replaced > them and no water bow.You get lots of breeze with all the hatches and > ports.I like it because I am 6ft 3 and can stand up.A very good survey will > support your list of things to do and consider .We do have a upgraded > engine Westerbeke 70 .Not sure how you intend to use her .I think she sails > very well .I think I saw this boat for sale and not sure about her tankage > but it has a watermaker.We have 120gals.it is not easy to find a place > for generator so we have a small gas portable if we need to take.I can > answer more if you pm me. > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 12:39 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> After years and many models considered for an offshore boat, a Landfall >> 43 has come along which seems to tick most of the boxes, and at a price we >> can afford. Most of the boats I really like are way out of our price range >> (Hylas, Passport, Tayana, etc) >> >> So I am hoping to hear from those with direct experience with the >> Landfall 43 in terms of what to watch for, how they sail (I know it won't >> be like our 35-2!), etc. The cored hull does make me a bit nervous, and the >> boat is on the wrong coast, so a good survey will be needed. It has the >> original Westerbeke 58 with about 5k hours that looks clean. I think this >> is the same block as a Perkins 4-154. Pretty basic sailing setup, two >> mainsheets, instead of traveller, cutter stay rigged but not used, not sure >> about running backs. I would want a furler for the cutter stay, which means >> running backs are probably needed. Interior looks pretty good, although >> there are signs of water damage, mostly at the floor level on the starboard >> side which seems odd. I would think if the boat had been flooded, the sole >> would be shot, but maybe it was replaced. >> >> We haven't made an offer yet, but might do so after talking further with >> the owners. It's currently cruising in the Bahamas and will be available >> next month in Florida. Yes, this is the one posted on the C FB group >> yesterday, asking 49K USD. That price doesn't get us anything close in any >> other boat, although might get us a Landfall 38, which is probably our next >> choice. >> >> Thanks! >> -- >> Shawn Wright >> shawngwri...@gmail.com >> S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 >> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto >> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and >> help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> Thanks for your help. >> Stu > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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for the Landfall 39. Currently saing mine on the west coast of México. Motorsailing along 7kts apparent, 6.2SOG. Calm seas. Somewhere north of Zihuatejo. Going to see the green flash tonight. Doug Mountjoy sv Rebecca Leah C & C Landfall 39Port Orchard Yacht Club Original message From: Lloyd Lippe via CnC-List Date: 3/17/23 10:55 (GMT-06:00) To: Stus-List Cc: Lloyd Lippe Subject: Stus-List Re: Landfall 43 opinions Hello Shawn,I have the Landfall 39 and have had her in the Bahamas for 8 years and remain so pleased and impressed how well she has done. She has survived 4 hurricanes including Dorian with winds of 220 gusting 240 while on a mooring.She is not fast but a very comfortable boat.I hope that helps.Lloyd LippeFinesseLandfall 39On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 11:39 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:Hello all,After years and many models considered for an offshore boat, a Landfall 43 has come along which seems to tick most of the boxes, and at a price we can afford. Most of the boats I really like are way out of our price range (Hylas, Passport, Tayana, etc)So I am hoping to hear from those with direct experience with the Landfall 43 in terms of what to watch for, how they sail (I know it won't be like our 35-2!), etc. The cored hull does make me a bit nervous, and the boat is on the wrong coast, so a good survey will be needed. It has the original Westerbeke 58 with about 5k hours that looks clean. I think this is the same block as a Perkins 4-154. Pretty basic sailing setup, two mainsheets, instead of traveller, cutter stay rigged but not used, not sure about running backs. I would want a furler for the cutter stay, which means running backs are probably needed. Interior looks pretty good, although there are signs of water damage, mostly at the floor level on the starboard side which seems odd. I would think if the boat had been flooded, the sole would be shot, but maybe it was replaced. We haven't made an offer yet, but might do so after talking further with the owners. It's currently cruising in the Bahamas and will be available next month in Florida. Yes, this is the one posted on the C FB group yesterday, asking 49K USD. That price doesn't get us anything close in any other boat, although might get us a Landfall 38, which is probably our next choice.Thanks!--Shawn wrightshawngwri...@gmail.coms/V Callisto, 1974 C 35https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Shawn we have a 1984 Landfall 43 for the last 16 years.We like it and think it is very comfortable.Like you we did it based on best boat for our budget.I think they all leak around the fixed ports and I have replaced them and no water bow.You get lots of breeze with all the hatches and ports.I like it because I am 6ft 3 and can stand up.A very good survey will support your list of things to do and consider .We do have a upgraded engine Westerbeke 70 .Not sure how you intend to use her .I think she sails very well .I think I saw this boat for sale and not sure about her tankage but it has a watermaker.We have 120gals.it is not easy to find a place for generator so we have a small gas portable if we need to take.I can answer more if you pm me. On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 12:39 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > After years and many models considered for an offshore boat, a Landfall 43 > has come along which seems to tick most of the boxes, and at a price we can > afford. Most of the boats I really like are way out of our price range > (Hylas, Passport, Tayana, etc) > > So I am hoping to hear from those with direct experience with the Landfall > 43 in terms of what to watch for, how they sail (I know it won't be like > our 35-2!), etc. The cored hull does make me a bit nervous, and the boat is > on the wrong coast, so a good survey will be needed. It has the original > Westerbeke 58 with about 5k hours that looks clean. I think this is the > same block as a Perkins 4-154. Pretty basic sailing setup, two mainsheets, > instead of traveller, cutter stay rigged but not used, not sure about > running backs. I would want a furler for the cutter stay, which means > running backs are probably needed. Interior looks pretty good, although > there are signs of water damage, mostly at the floor level on the starboard > side which seems odd. I would think if the boat had been flooded, the sole > would be shot, but maybe it was replaced. > > We haven't made an offer yet, but might do so after talking further with > the owners. It's currently cruising in the Bahamas and will be available > next month in Florida. Yes, this is the one posted on the C FB group > yesterday, asking 49K USD. That price doesn't get us anything close in any > other boat, although might get us a Landfall 38, which is probably our next > choice. > > Thanks! > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com > S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Hello Shawn, I have the Landfall 39 and have had her in the Bahamas for 8 years and remain so pleased and impressed how well she has done. She has survived 4 hurricanes including Dorian with winds of 220 gusting 240 while on a mooring. She is not fast but a very comfortable boat. I hope that helps. Lloyd Lippe Finesse Landfall 39 On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, 11:39 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > After years and many models considered for an offshore boat, a Landfall 43 > has come along which seems to tick most of the boxes, and at a price we can > afford. Most of the boats I really like are way out of our price range > (Hylas, Passport, Tayana, etc) > > So I am hoping to hear from those with direct experience with the Landfall > 43 in terms of what to watch for, how they sail (I know it won't be like > our 35-2!), etc. The cored hull does make me a bit nervous, and the boat is > on the wrong coast, so a good survey will be needed. It has the original > Westerbeke 58 with about 5k hours that looks clean. I think this is the > same block as a Perkins 4-154. Pretty basic sailing setup, two mainsheets, > instead of traveller, cutter stay rigged but not used, not sure about > running backs. I would want a furler for the cutter stay, which means > running backs are probably needed. Interior looks pretty good, although > there are signs of water damage, mostly at the floor level on the starboard > side which seems odd. I would think if the boat had been flooded, the sole > would be shot, but maybe it was replaced. > > We haven't made an offer yet, but might do so after talking further with > the owners. It's currently cruising in the Bahamas and will be available > next month in Florida. Yes, this is the one posted on the C FB group > yesterday, asking 49K USD. That price doesn't get us anything close in any > other boat, although might get us a Landfall 38, which is probably our next > choice. > > Thanks! > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com > S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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Shawn, There is one in day charter near me in the summer (near Annapolis) and in the islands in the winter. I wonder if it is the same boat. Owner is Australian if I recall correctly. It looks a lot like a Hylas 44. It seemed to be in good condition looking at it from the dock and seeing it sail by. I think the main was pretty old.Never raced against it as we were always going in opposite directions. Joel On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 12:39 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > After years and many models considered for an offshore boat, a Landfall 43 > has come along which seems to tick most of the boxes, and at a price we can > afford. Most of the boats I really like are way out of our price range > (Hylas, Passport, Tayana, etc) > > So I am hoping to hear from those with direct experience with the Landfall > 43 in terms of what to watch for, how they sail (I know it won't be like > our 35-2!), etc. The cored hull does make me a bit nervous, and the boat is > on the wrong coast, so a good survey will be needed. It has the original > Westerbeke 58 with about 5k hours that looks clean. I think this is the > same block as a Perkins 4-154. Pretty basic sailing setup, two mainsheets, > instead of traveller, cutter stay rigged but not used, not sure about > running backs. I would want a furler for the cutter stay, which means > running backs are probably needed. Interior looks pretty good, although > there are signs of water damage, mostly at the floor level on the starboard > side which seems odd. I would think if the boat had been flooded, the sole > would be shot, but maybe it was replaced. > > We haven't made an offer yet, but might do so after talking further with > the owners. It's currently cruising in the Bahamas and will be available > next month in Florida. Yes, this is the one posted on the C FB group > yesterday, asking 49K USD. That price doesn't get us anything close in any > other boat, although might get us a Landfall 38, which is probably our next > choice. > > Thanks! > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com > S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > Thanks for your help. > Stu -- Joel Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
