Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Hi John,

Using Blogger (i.e. blogspot) is rather easy and it is free.  Much of my recent 
efforts I have not bothered to write up as they are mostly never ending tasks: 
little cosmetics projects, engine maintenance,  leak hunting, brightwork, … 
I am working on a water heeling bag system so that I can heel 53’ of air draft 
under a 49’ bridge.  My next big project will likely be the icebox rebuild.  I 
see from the your photos, that you have a CoolBlue cold plate system.  Are you 
happy with it?  I’m guessing that the icebox was reinsulated .  Do you know 
what insulation and how much was used?

Thanks for the photos.  I like the replacement teak inset cabinet doors which 
you have all throughout.  I may copy that idea. 

-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 11:26 PM, john wright  wrote:
> 
> Paul
> 
> I look at your site a lot these day. I am thinking if setting up a blog also 
> to tell the story.
> 
> Please keep sending info and or comments.
> 
> Best
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Paul E via CnC-List > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Wally’s site is a wonderful guide and inspiration.   There are several other 
>> Landfall 38 owners who have insightful blogs: RainDays, Raft, VioletHour; 
>> are just the first few which come up on a google search. 
>> 
>> I have recently done much of the same refits on my boat.  Below is a direct 
>> link to my project page.
>> 
>> 
>> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html 
>> <http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html>
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Paul E.
>> 1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
>> S/V Johanna Rose
>> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>> 
>> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ <http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/>
>>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:25 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com 
>>> <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> From: john wright >>> <mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com>>
>>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>>> Cc: 
>>>> Bcc: 
>>>> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
>>>> Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
>>>> Hello everyone
>>>> 
>>>> I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my 
>>>> purpose ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 
>>>> 1500 in 2019), after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 
>>>> years. The boat is in better than average condition, I will post pictures 
>>>> later.
>>>> 
>>>> I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate 
>>>> any recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[john wright via CnC-List]

Paul

I look at your site a lot these day. I am thinking if setting up a blog also to 
tell the story.

Please keep sending info and or comments.

Best


> On Aug 1, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Paul E via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Wally’s site is a wonderful guide and inspiration.   There are several other 
> Landfall 38 owners who have insightful blogs: RainDays, Raft, VioletHour; are 
> just the first few which come up on a google search. 
> 
> I have recently done much of the same refits on my boat.  Below is a direct 
> link to my project page.
> 
> 
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html 
> <http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html>
> 
> 
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
> 
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ <http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/>
>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:25 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com 
>> <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: john wright >> <mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com>>
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> Cc: 
>>> Bcc: 
>>> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
>>> Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
>>> Hello everyone
>>> 
>>> I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my 
>>> purpose ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 
>>> in 2019), after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. 
>>> The boat is in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.
>>> 
>>> I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
>>> recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
> 
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> to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Sounds like you are on top of things. Bon voyage!

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 1, 2017, at 9:11 PM, john wright via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

That was great and helpful.

Thank Dave
On Aug 1, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Dave S via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Inspect label and secure all wiring.replace as required.
Inspect and service (as required) all through hulls.
Inspect (and replace as required)  all hoses.
Inspect, clean and protect all key electrical grounding points.
Consider upgraded protection for exposed engine controls and instruments.
Consider upgraded ventilation for holding tank.
Ensure batteries are well secured
Upgrade air movement within lockers etc where possible.
Inspect and improve any marginal bulkhead tabbing.
When working on critical deck hardware consider upgrading backing plates, etc, 
where practical.
convenient stowage for hatch drop boards, emergency tiller, ditch 
bag/flares/horn.
make/buy webbing jacklines

Howzat?


Dave
33-2




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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list.

Thanks

Level 1: Repairs and Installations
Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as needed 
to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
Replace all hoses for new engine
Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to monitor 
visually
Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
Clean stains with FSR
Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
Clean teak with teak cleaner
Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces
Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint
Re-install mast and tune rigging
Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
Re-varnish companionway door
Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
Update propane solenoid
Remake companionway door cover to fit better
Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
Clean and polish all stainless hardware
Replace gasket material on all opening ports
Repaint all dorade vents
Replace traveler cam cleat
Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
Install and varnish framework for windows
Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
Re-install all cabinets and tables
Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
Head – re-cut new mirror and install
Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work


Level 2: Updates and Improvements
Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that project
Paint steering pedestal white
Replace instruments
Replace opening port in cockpit with new
Add winch handle holders in cockpit
Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
Make set of cockpit cushions
Install a cockpit shower
Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
Replace all blocks with updated equipment
Replace all running rigging
Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws deeper as 
wood has shrunk over time)
Sand toe rail and varnish
Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
Paint interior of chain locker
Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original color
All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan 
Yachts uses this style)
Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
Replace steering cables with new
Replace all interior lighting with LED
Install Isotherm hot water tank
Replace interior cushions with new foam and fabrics
Replace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea panel
Add swim ladder


Level 3: Enhancements
Replace manual windlass with an electric version
Upgrade chain and rope to fit new windlass
Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail
Add Fischer Panda Perfect Power iSeries Generat

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[john wright via CnC-List]

That was great and helpful.

Thank Dave
> On Aug 1, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Inspect label and secure all wiring.replace as required.
> Inspect and service (as required) all through hulls.
> Inspect (and replace as required)  all hoses.
> Inspect, clean and protect all key electrical grounding points.
> Consider upgraded protection for exposed engine controls and instruments.
> Consider upgraded ventilation for holding tank.
> Ensure batteries are well secured
> Upgrade air movement within lockers etc where possible.
> Inspect and improve any marginal bulkhead tabbing.
> When working on critical deck hardware consider upgrading backing plates, 
> etc, where practical.
> convenient stowage for hatch drop boards, emergency tiller, ditch 
> bag/flares/horn.
> make/buy webbing jacklines
> 
> Howzat?
> 
> 
> Dave
> 33-2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Forwarded message --
> From: john wright  <mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com>>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: 
> Bcc: 
> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
> Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
> Hello everyone
> 
> I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose 
> ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
> after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
> in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.
> 
> I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
> recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Level 1: Repairs and Installations
> Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
> Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as 
> needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
> Replace all hoses for new engine
> Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to 
> monitor visually
> Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
> Clean stains with FSR
> Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
> Clean teak with teak cleaner
> Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
> Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces 
> Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint 
> Re-install mast and tune rigging
> Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
> Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
> Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
> Re-varnish companionway door
> Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
> Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
> Update propane solenoid 
> Remake companionway door cover to fit better
> Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
> Clean and polish all stainless hardware
> Replace gasket material on all opening ports
> Repaint all dorade vents
> Replace traveler cam cleat
> Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
> Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
> Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
> Install and varnish framework for windows
> Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
> Re-install all cabinets and tables
> Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
> Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
> Head – re-cut new mirror and install
> Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
> Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work
> 
> 
> Level 2: Updates and Improvements
> Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that 
> project
> Paint steering pedestal white
> Replace instruments
> Replace opening port in cockpit with new
> Add winch handle holders in cockpit
> Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
> Make set of cockpit cushions
> Install a cockpit shower
> Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
> Replace all blocks with updated equipment
> Replace all running rigging
> Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
> Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws deeper 
> as wood has shrunk over time)
> Sand toe rail and varnish
> Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
> Paint interior of chain locker
> Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
> Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original color
> All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan 
> Yachts uses this style)
> Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
> Replace steering cables with new
> Replace all interior lighting

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[john sandford via CnC-List]

Hi John

Everyone has different views, but my priorities are

1.   Don’t want the mast coming down, = Mast, Spreaders, Standing and 
running rigging. Remove, replace everything, repin with SS bolts and nylocs, 
not clevis pins.

2.   And while its getting 1. Done = renew wiring, fit LEDs, Halyards, 
sheaves, Antennae, Mast Gate, reef blocks on boom, Instruments,  remove any 
mast internal slapping noise. (usually wiring)

3.   Don’t want to sink for stupidity, = Shell Envelope, through hulls, 
keel bolts, hoses, shaft, rudder, bilge pumps, clean paint bilge, to spot leaks 
easily. (yard stripped the hull to gelcoat and many Interprotect+3 coat AF, 
different colors) 

4.   Want to sail short handed = Extra reefs, Lines aft to cockpit, upgrade 
traveller, lazy jacks, pilot.

5.   Then the Hotel services.

6.   Then the cosmetics

 

We have completed 1. To 4. On my LF38, over 2 years with no outside assistance 
apart from the bottom strip, haul and mast in/out.

Want to get at the 5, and 6. But they do not affect having a good weekend on 
board, ( who needs pretty teak and refrigeration anyway), so I’m enjoying the 
summer.

I will worry about the rest after haul out in November. Maybe 5. This winter

 

And, because I have done the important stuff, its comfortable to be able to 
sail in 40k, without worrying about what someone else didn’t do, that might 
hurt you, or yours.

 

Also I tried to sort your list, below for what its worth.

 

BTW, I think the best improvement made was renewing the traveller with Harken 
Big Boat track and cars with controls led aft. I can adjust it from the helm.

The old one was like driving a car over a field of tree stumps with flat tires. 
Wouldnt budge under load.

 

John

LF38

#234

 

 

From: john wright [mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com] 
Sent: July-31-17 7:36 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

 

Hello everyone

 

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

 

I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 

 

Thanks

 

Level 1: Repairs and Installations

1. 1. 1. 1. Replace standing rod rigging for peace of mind

1. Re-install mast and tune rigging

1. Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set

1. Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as 
needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e

1. Replace all hoses for new engine

1. Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to 
monitor visually

1. Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit

1. Replace gasket material on all opening ports

1. Replace traveler cam cleat

1. Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten

1. Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)

1. Replace all blocks with updated equipment

1. Replace all running rigging

1. Replace steering cables with new

1. New mainsail with deep double reef and Harken bat car track for ease of hoist

1. Stack-pack for mainsail storage (see MacSails of Florida)

1. Gooseneck double reefing hook from South Shore Yachts

1. Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint 

1. Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat

Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat

Clean stains with FSR

Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)

Clean teak with teak cleaner

Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards

Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces  Repair/ refinish wood framework to 
companionway

Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again

Re-varnish companionway door

Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood

Update propane solenoid 

Remake companionway door cover to fit better

Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)

Clean and polish all stainless hardware

Repaint all dorade vents

Clean, sand and varnish bow platform

Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure

Install and varnish framework for windows

Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed

Re-install all cabinets and tables

Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth

Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket

Head – re-cut new mirror and install

Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed

Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work

 

 

Level 2: Updates and Improvements

Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that project

Paint steering pedestal white

Replace instruments

Replace opening port in cockpit with new

Add winch handle holders in cockpit

Paint new non-skid in

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

So far I have not seen anything about rigging - inspections, checks, 
replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 1, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Paul

I looked at your engine rebuilt post.  What a daunting job!

Great work

Mike
Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul E via 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:37 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Paul E
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

John,

Wally’s site is a wonderful guide and inspiration.   There are several other 
Landfall 38 owners who have insightful blogs: RainDays, Raft, VioletHour; are 
just the first few which come up on a google search.

I have recently done much of the same refits on my boat.  Below is a direct 
link to my project page.


http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:25 AM, 
cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:

From: john wright 
mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list.

Thanks

___

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make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
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___

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make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
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All Contributions are greatly appreciated!

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Paul

I looked at your engine rebuilt post.  What a daunting job!

Great work

Mike
Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul E via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 1:37 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Paul E
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

John,

Wally’s site is a wonderful guide and inspiration.   There are several other 
Landfall 38 owners who have insightful blogs: RainDays, Raft, VioletHour; are 
just the first few which come up on a google search.

I have recently done much of the same refits on my boat.  Below is a direct 
link to my project page.


http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:25 AM, 
cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:

From: john wright 
mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list.

Thanks

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make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Paul E via CnC-List]

John,

Wally’s site is a wonderful guide and inspiration.   There are several other 
Landfall 38 owners who have insightful blogs: RainDays, Raft, VioletHour; are 
just the first few which come up on a google search. 

I have recently done much of the same refits on my boat.  Below is a direct 
link to my project page.


http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:25 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
>> From: john wright > <mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com>>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: 
>> Bcc: 
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
>> Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
>> Hello everyone
>> 
>> I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my 
>> purpose ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 
>> in 2019), after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. 
>> The boat is in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.
>> 
>> I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
>> recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 
>> 
>> Thanks

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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Dave S via CnC-List]

On hookup wire - ancor has done a wonderful job of marketing...  'nuff said...

Industrial hookup wire equivalent in construction is CSA type TEW aka UL style 
1015.
This specifies a .030" pvc insulation, 600v 105 deg C rating.
Gauge/stranding is as follows:  10/104, 12/65, 14/41, 16/26, 18/16.
You need to specify BC or TC for bare or tinned copper conductors.

Dave

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> On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:29 AM, Della Barba, Joe  wrote:
> 
> Wow – cheapest yet!
> I always loved the Ancor wire because of the fine strands, but this is a 
> great deal!
> I have been buying the yellow Ancor for ground wiring lately. I may get 
> around to redoing it all one day to match the latest color codes.
> Joe
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I.
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick 
> G Street via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 10:25 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Frederick G Street 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
>  
> Joe — PLEASE don’t use welding cable on a boat.  It’s not UL- or 
> ABYC-approved for marine use, and the fact that it’s not tinned should be a 
> huge red flag, especially for you saltwater boaters.
>  
> 4AWG marine battery cable from Pacer Marine is $1.75/ft retail: 
> http://www.pacergroup.net/4-gauge-battery-cable/
>  
> I’ve been using these guys for many years, and their wire products for marine 
> use are equal or superior to just about anything else our there, and 
> reasonably priced.
>  
> — Fred
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>  
> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>  
> Could be, but my boat is about 1 mile from West Marine and a couple hundred 
> or more from Defender, so Port Supply is still a big help when I need 
> something mid-project.
> This made me curious, so I took a look at something I just bought – 4 gauge 
> wire.
> Defender - $2.32/foot
> Port Supply - $2.60/foot
> West normal price - $3.19/foot
> Genuindealz (my favorite eBay marine wire store) - $1.92 a foot (tinned but 
> not fine strand like Ancor, they do carry a lot of Ancor as well)
> Excelene welding cable 4 gauge (all over Ebay, very flexible, NOT tinned so 
> watch how you make the ends) $1.29/foot
>  
> BTW – the two absolute *worst* deals at West are batteries and solar panels. 
> East-Penn Deka makes their batteries and they are cheaper literally anywhere 
> else. Sams Club AGM group 31s are HALF the West price and they are the exact 
> same thing.  West has the most expensive and crappiest solar panels I have 
> ever seen anywhere too. They literally could buy them off Amazon, double the 
> price, and still be better.
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
>  
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I think he may source from Pacer Marine; they’re in Florida.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 1, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Paul E via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I have been very happy with marine wire from Greg’s Marine Wire Supply:  4 
> AWG Tinned Marine Battery Cable   $1.64/ft
> 
> https://gregsmarinewiresupply.com 
> 
> 
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
> 
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ 
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Paul E via CnC-List]

I have been very happy with marine wire from Greg’s Marine Wire Supply:  4 AWG 
Tinned Marine Battery Cable   $1.64/ft

https://gregsmarinewiresupply.com <https://gregsmarinewiresupply.com/>


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Aug 1, 2017, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 14:29:19 +
> From: "Della Barba, Joe"  <mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>" 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
> Message-ID:
>   <0ac30d6820b14e5c9f6c410911013...@nsc-dag3-06.ba.ad.ssa.gov 
> <mailto:0ac30d6820b14e5c9f6c410911013...@nsc-dag3-06.ba.ad.ssa.gov>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Wow ? cheapest yet!
> I always loved the Ancor wire because of the fine strands, but this is a 
> great deal!
> I have been buying the yellow Ancor for ground wiring lately. I may get 
> around to redoing it all one day to match the latest color codes.
> Joe
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I.

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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Wow – cheapest yet!
I always loved the Ancor wire because of the fine strands, but this is a great 
deal!
I have been buying the yellow Ancor for ground wiring lately. I may get around 
to redoing it all one day to match the latest color codes.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I.


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 10:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

Joe — PLEASE don’t use welding cable on a boat.  It’s not UL- or ABYC-approved 
for marine use, and the fact that it’s not tinned should be a huge red flag, 
especially for you saltwater boaters.

4AWG marine battery cable from Pacer Marine is $1.75/ft retail: 
http://www.pacergroup.net/4-gauge-battery-cable/

I’ve been using these guys for many years, and their wire products for marine 
use are equal or superior to just about anything else our there, and reasonably 
priced.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Could be, but my boat is about 1 mile from West Marine and a couple hundred or 
more from Defender, so Port Supply is still a big help when I need something 
mid-project.
This made me curious, so I took a look at something I just bought – 4 gauge 
wire.
Defender - $2.32/foot
Port Supply - $2.60/foot
West normal price - $3.19/foot
Genuindealz (my favorite eBay marine wire store) - $1.92 a foot (tinned but not 
fine strand like Ancor, they do carry a lot of Ancor as well)
Excelene welding cable 4 gauge (all over Ebay, very flexible, NOT tinned so 
watch how you make the ends) $1.29/foot

BTW – the two absolute *worst* deals at West are batteries and solar panels. 
East-Penn Deka makes their batteries and they are cheaper literally anywhere 
else. Sams Club AGM group 31s are HALF the West price and they are the exact 
same thing.  West has the most expensive and crappiest solar panels I have ever 
seen anywhere too. They literally could buy them off Amazon, double the price, 
and still be better.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina

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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Joe — PLEASE don’t use welding cable on a boat.  It’s not UL- or ABYC-approved 
for marine use, and the fact that it’s not tinned should be a huge red flag, 
especially for you saltwater boaters.

4AWG marine battery cable from Pacer Marine is $1.75/ft retail: 
http://www.pacergroup.net/4-gauge-battery-cable/ 


I’ve been using these guys for many years, and their wire products for marine 
use are equal or superior to just about anything else our there, and reasonably 
priced.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could be, but my boat is about 1 mile from West Marine and a couple hundred 
> or more from Defender, so Port Supply is still a big help when I need 
> something mid-project.
> This made me curious, so I took a look at something I just bought – 4 gauge 
> wire.
> Defender - $2.32/foot
> Port Supply - $2.60/foot
> West normal price - $3.19/foot
> Genuindealz (my favorite eBay marine wire store) - $1.92 a foot (tinned but 
> not fine strand like Ancor, they do carry a lot of Ancor as well)
> Excelene welding cable 4 gauge (all over Ebay, very flexible, NOT tinned so 
> watch how you make the ends) $1.29/foot
>  
> BTW – the two absolute *worst* deals at West are batteries and solar panels. 
> East-Penn Deka makes their batteries and they are cheaper literally anywhere 
> else. Sams Club AGM group 31s are HALF the West price and they are the exact 
> same thing.  West has the most expensive and crappiest solar panels I have 
> ever seen anywhere too. They literally could buy them off Amazon, double the 
> price, and still be better.
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina

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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Dave via CnC-List]

Will need to check mine, i did a ton of work, and would have noticed what it 
was, but have forgotten.   There was no corrosion anyway.   The in-mast wiring 
was bare copper and uncorroded after 30 years, but it's a fresh water boat.
Dave.
Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Bruce Whitmore  wrote:
> 
> Agreed as to the warning on the wiring, and as of 1994, no, they did not wire 
> the boats with tinned wire.  I am finding a LOT of the wire in my boat to be 
> blackend with corrosion.  While it is still largely functional, in the back 
> of my mind I'm weighing the long-term need for properly rewiring the boat.  
> 
> :(  
>  
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+
> Madiera Beach, FL
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> To: "syerd...@gmail.com"  
> Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" ; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 8:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
> 
> They finally discovered tinned wire?
> J
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: syerd...@gmail.com [mailto:syerd...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:47 AM
> To: Della Barba, Joe 
> Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
>  
> With the exception of push and pulpit, IMO '85 was done quite well by the 
> factory.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe  wrote:
> Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as 1973 
> wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one hour 
> project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!
> Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for a 
> huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to 
> restore a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account.
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:36 AM
> To: C&c Stus List 
> Cc: Dave S 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
>  
> Inspect label and secure all wiring.replace as required.
> Inspect and service (as required) all through hulls.
> Inspect (and replace as required)  all hoses.
> Inspect, clean and protect all key electrical grounding points.
> Consider upgraded protection for exposed engine controls and instruments.
> Consider upgraded ventilation for holding tank.
> Ensure batteries are well secured
> Upgrade air movement within lockers etc where possible.
> Inspect and improve any marginal bulkhead tabbing.
> When working on critical deck hardware consider upgrading backing plates, 
> etc, where practical.
> convenient stowage for hatch drop boards, emergency tiller, ditch 
> bag/flares/horn.
> make/buy webbing jacklines
>  
> Howzat?
>  
>  
> Dave
> 33-2
>  
>  
>  
>  
> - Forwarded message --
> From: john wright 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: 
> Bcc: 
> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
> Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
> Hello everyone
>  
> I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose 
> ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
> after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
> in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.
>  
> I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
> recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Level 1: Repairs and Installations
> Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
> Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as 
> needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
> Replace all hoses for new engine
> Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to 
> monitor visually
> Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
> Clean stains with FSR
> Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
> Clean teak with teak cleaner
> Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
> Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces 
> Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint 
> Re-install mast and tune rigging
> Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
> Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
> Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
> Re-varnish companionway door
> Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
> Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
> Up

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

As Joe pointed out, the discount depends on what you buy. When I purchased the 
valves, hoses, and regulator for my LPG install the discount came to almost 
50%. On stuff like Blue Seas panels and ACR it is more like 10%.

 

I have a West Marine here in town, so I never pay shipping on anything I order. 
I find that when you consider the shipping cost from Defender, the total is 
usually higher than the local West.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack 
Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:36 AM
To: C&CList 
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

 

We have found the prices at Defender marine to be a hellava lot cheaper than 
West marine PRO.




Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald 

C&C 39TM - HONEY - US12788
Savannah, GA 31410 USA

 

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On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore a boat and get 
yourself as Port Supply account.

 

That won't get you a lot.  I have had a Port Supply (now West Marine Pro) 
account for years.  It is volume based.  As a low volume buyer, my discount is 
negligible.  I can buy stuff online cheaper than West Marine Pro.

 

It's OK for the gotta have it now stuff.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as 1973 
wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one hour 
project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!

Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for a 
huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore 
a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account. 

 

 


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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Agreed as to the warning on the wiring, and as of 1994, no, they did not wire 
the boats with tinned wire.  I am finding a LOT of the wire in my boat to be 
blackend with corrosion.  While it is still largely functional, in the back of 
my mind I'm weighing the long-term need for properly rewiring the boat.  

:(  
 Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+Madiera Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


  From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
 To: "syerd...@gmail.com"  
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" ; "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
   
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syerd...@gmail.com [mailto:syerd...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:47 AM
To: Della Barba, Joe 
Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38    With the exception of 
push and pulpit, IMO '85 was done quite well by the factory.

Sent from my iPad 
On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe  wrote: 
Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as 1973 
wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one hour 
project and ended up rewiring my whole boat! Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas 
stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for a huge discount. Do also go to 
West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore a boat and get yourself as 
Port Supply account.    Joe Coquina   From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Dave S via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:36 AM
To: C&c Stus List 
Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38   Inspect label and secure 
all wiring.replace as required. Inspect and service (as required) all through 
hulls. Inspect (and replace as required)  all hoses. Inspect, clean and protect 
all key electrical grounding points. Consider upgraded protection for exposed 
engine controls and instruments. Consider upgraded ventilation for holding 
tank. Ensure batteries are well secured Upgrade air movement within lockers etc 
where possible. Inspect and improve any marginal bulkhead tabbing. When working 
on critical deck hardware consider upgrading backing plates, etc, where 
practical. convenient stowage for hatch drop boards, emergency tiller, ditch 
bag/flares/horn. make/buy webbing jacklines   Howzat?     Dave 33-2         
- Forwarded message --
From: john wright 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38 Hello everyone   I am about to 
begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( sailing 
around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), after 
looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is in 
better than average condition, I will post pictures later.   I have the work 
broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any recommendations and 
reorganizing of the list.    Thanks   Level 1: Repairs and Installations 
Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set Remove old engine, clean and 
repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e 
Replace all hoses for new engine Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel 
filter to easier location to monitor visually Gelcoat – fill all chips and 
nicks with gelcoat Clean stains with FSR Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy 
the connections to frame) Clean teak with teak cleaner Replace teak combing 
with thicker mahogany boards Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces  Hull bottom 
– sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint  Re-install mast and tune 
rigging Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again 
Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat Repair/ refinish wood framework 
to companionway Re-varnish companionway door Make better drainage in port 
coc

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Could be, but my boat is about 1 mile from West Marine and a couple hundred or 
more from Defender, so Port Supply is still a big help when I need something 
mid-project.
This made me curious, so I took a look at something I just bought – 4 gauge 
wire.
Defender - $2.32/foot
Port Supply - $2.60/foot
West normal price - $3.19/foot
Genuindealz (my favorite eBay marine wire store) - $1.92 a foot (tinned but not 
fine strand like Ancor, they do carry a lot of Ancor as well)
Excelene welding cable 4 gauge (all over Ebay, very flexible, NOT tinned so 
watch how you make the ends) $1.29/foot

BTW – the two absolute *worst* deals at West are batteries and solar panels. 
East-Penn Deka makes their batteries and they are cheaper literally anywhere 
else. Sams Club AGM group 31s are HALF the West price and they are the exact 
same thing.  West has the most expensive and crappiest solar panels I have ever 
seen anywhere too. They literally could buy them off Amazon, double the price, 
and still be better.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack 
Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:36 AM
To: C&CList 
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

We have found the prices at Defender marine to be a hellava lot cheaper than 
West marine PRO.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
C&C 39TM - HONEY - US12788
Savannah, GA 31410 USA

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On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore a boat and get 
yourself as Port Supply account.

That won't get you a lot.  I have had a Port Supply (now West Marine Pro) 
account for years.  It is volume based.  As a low volume buyer, my discount is 
negligible.  I can buy stuff online cheaper than West Marine Pro.

It's OK for the gotta have it now stuff.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as 1973 
wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one hour 
project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!
Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for a 
huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore 
a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account.



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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Defender is cheaper the West, but their shipping costs have turned me off
lately.  If you have an Amazon Prime account you can do as well or better
with the free shipping on a lot of stuff.

Joel

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On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Roger that.
>
> *From:* Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:36 AM
> *To:* C&CList 
> *Cc:* Jack Fitzgerald 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
>
> We have found the prices at Defender marine to be a hellava lot cheaper
> than West marine PRO.
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald
> C&C 39TM - HONEY - US12788
> Savannah, GA 31410 USA
>
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> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore a boat and get
>> yourself as Port Supply account.
>>
>>
>> That won't get you a lot.  I have had a Port Supply (now West Marine Pro)
>> account for years.  It is volume based.  As a low volume buyer, my discount
>> is negligible.  I can buy stuff online cheaper than West Marine Pro.
>>
>> It's OK for the gotta have it now stuff.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as
>>> 1973 wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one
>>> hour project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!
>>>
>>> Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay
>>> for a huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired”
>>> to restore a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Roger that.

From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:36 AM
To: C&CList 
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

We have found the prices at Defender marine to be a hellava lot cheaper than 
West marine PRO. 

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald 
C&C 39TM - HONEY - US12788
Savannah, GA 31410 USA



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On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:

  go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore a boat and get 
yourself as Port Supply account.



  That won't get you a lot.  I have had a Port Supply (now West Marine Pro) 
account for years.  It is volume based.  As a low volume buyer, my discount is 
negligible.  I can buy stuff online cheaper than West Marine Pro.

  It's OK for the gotta have it now stuff.


  Dennis C.
  Touche' 35-1 #83
  Mandeville, LA

  On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as 
1973 wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one hour 
project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!

Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for 
a huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to 
restore a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account. 






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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

We have found the prices at Defender marine to be a hellava lot cheaper
than West marine PRO.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
C&C 39TM - HONEY - US12788
Savannah, GA 31410 USA


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On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore a boat and get
> yourself as Port Supply account.
>
>
> That won't get you a lot.  I have had a Port Supply (now West Marine Pro)
> account for years.  It is volume based.  As a low volume buyer, my discount
> is negligible.  I can buy stuff online cheaper than West Marine Pro.
>
> It's OK for the gotta have it now stuff.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as
>> 1973 wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one
>> hour project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!
>>
>> Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay
>> for a huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired”
>> to restore a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

It is variable. On electronics you might get about $1 off, but for some other 
things it is huge – like close to half!
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:11 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore a boat and get 
yourself as Port Supply account.

That won't get you a lot.  I have had a Port Supply (now West Marine Pro) 
account for years.  It is volume based.  As a low volume buyer, my discount is 
negligible.  I can buy stuff online cheaper than West Marine Pro.

It's OK for the gotta have it now stuff.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as 1973 
wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one hour 
project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!
Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for a 
huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore 
a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account.


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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore a boat and get
yourself as Port Supply account.


That won't get you a lot.  I have had a Port Supply (now West Marine Pro)
account for years.  It is volume based.  As a low volume buyer, my discount
is negligible.  I can buy stuff online cheaper than West Marine Pro.

It's OK for the gotta have it now stuff.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as
> 1973 wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one
> hour project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!
>
> Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for
> a huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to
> restore a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

They finally discovered tinned wire?
☺
Joe
Coquina

From: syerd...@gmail.com [mailto:syerd...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 8:47 AM
To: Della Barba, Joe 
Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

With the exception of push and pulpit, IMO '85 was done quite well by the 
factory.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe 
mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> wrote:
Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as 1973 
wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one hour 
project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!
Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for a 
huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore 
a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account.

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:36 AM
To: C&c Stus List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Dave S mailto:syerd...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

Inspect label and secure all wiring.replace as required.
Inspect and service (as required) all through hulls.
Inspect (and replace as required)  all hoses.
Inspect, clean and protect all key electrical grounding points.
Consider upgraded protection for exposed engine controls and instruments.
Consider upgraded ventilation for holding tank.
Ensure batteries are well secured
Upgrade air movement within lockers etc where possible.
Inspect and improve any marginal bulkhead tabbing.
When working on critical deck hardware consider upgrading backing plates, etc, 
where practical.
convenient stowage for hatch drop boards, emergency tiller, ditch 
bag/flares/horn.
make/buy webbing jacklines

Howzat?


Dave
33-2




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From: john wright 
mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list.

Thanks

Level 1: Repairs and Installations
Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as needed 
to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
Replace all hoses for new engine
Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to monitor 
visually
Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
Clean stains with FSR
Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
Clean teak with teak cleaner
Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces
Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint
Re-install mast and tune rigging
Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
Re-varnish companionway door
Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
Update propane solenoid
Remake companionway door cover to fit better
Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
Clean and polish all stainless hardware
Replace gasket material on all opening ports
Repaint all dorade vents
Replace traveler cam cleat
Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
Install and varnish framework for windows
Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
Re-install all cabinets and tables
Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
Head – re-cut new mirror and install
Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work


Level 2: Updates and Improvements
Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that project
Paint steering pedestal white
Replace instruments
Replace opening port in cockpit with new
Add winch handle holders in cockpit
Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
Make set of cockpit cushions
Install a cockpit shower
Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
Replace all blocks with updated equipment
Replace all running rigging
Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws deeper as 
w

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Dave via CnC-List]

With the exception of push and pulpit, IMO '85 was done quite well by the 
factory.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Della Barba, Joe  wrote:
> 
> Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as 1973 
> wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one hour 
> project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!
> Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for a 
> huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to 
> restore a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account.
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:36 AM
> To: C&c Stus List 
> Cc: Dave S 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
>  
> Inspect label and secure all wiring.replace as required.
> Inspect and service (as required) all through hulls.
> Inspect (and replace as required)  all hoses.
> Inspect, clean and protect all key electrical grounding points.
> Consider upgraded protection for exposed engine controls and instruments.
> Consider upgraded ventilation for holding tank.
> Ensure batteries are well secured
> Upgrade air movement within lockers etc where possible.
> Inspect and improve any marginal bulkhead tabbing.
> When working on critical deck hardware consider upgrading backing plates, 
> etc, where practical.
> convenient stowage for hatch drop boards, emergency tiller, ditch 
> bag/flares/horn.
> make/buy webbing jacklines
>  
> Howzat?
>  
>  
> Dave
> 33-2
>  
>  
>  
>  
> - Forwarded message ------
> From: john wright 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: 
> Bcc: 
> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
> Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
> Hello everyone
>  
> I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose 
> ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
> after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
> in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.
>  
> I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
> recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Level 1: Repairs and Installations
> Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
> Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as 
> needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
> Replace all hoses for new engine
> Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to 
> monitor visually
> Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
> Clean stains with FSR
> Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
> Clean teak with teak cleaner
> Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
> Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces 
> Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint 
> Re-install mast and tune rigging
> Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
> Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
> Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
> Re-varnish companionway door
> Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
> Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
> Update propane solenoid 
> Remake companionway door cover to fit better
> Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
> Clean and polish all stainless hardware
> Replace gasket material on all opening ports
> Repaint all dorade vents
> Replace traveler cam cleat
> Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
> Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
> Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
> Install and varnish framework for windows
> Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
> Re-install all cabinets and tables
> Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
> Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
> Head – re-cut new mirror and install
> Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
> Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work
>  
>  
> Level 2: Updates and Improvements
> Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that 
> project
> Paint steering pedestal white
> Replace instruments
> Replace opening port in cockpit with new
> Add winch handle holders in cockpit
> Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
> Make set of cockpit cushions
> Install a cockpit shower
> Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
> Replace all blocks with updated equipment
&g

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Be warned – learned this the hard way – If 1981 C&C wiring is as good as 1973 
wiring was, it is ALL about to turn into black dust. I started a one hour 
project and ended up rewiring my whole boat!
Speaking of wiring, Blue Seas stuff is great and frequently on Fleabay for a 
huge discount. Do also go to West Marine and explain you got “hired” to restore 
a boat and get yourself as Port Supply account.

Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:36 AM
To: C&c Stus List 
Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

Inspect label and secure all wiring.replace as required.
Inspect and service (as required) all through hulls.
Inspect (and replace as required)  all hoses.
Inspect, clean and protect all key electrical grounding points.
Consider upgraded protection for exposed engine controls and instruments.
Consider upgraded ventilation for holding tank.
Ensure batteries are well secured
Upgrade air movement within lockers etc where possible.
Inspect and improve any marginal bulkhead tabbing.
When working on critical deck hardware consider upgrading backing plates, etc, 
where practical.
convenient stowage for hatch drop boards, emergency tiller, ditch 
bag/flares/horn.
make/buy webbing jacklines

Howzat?


Dave
33-2




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From: john wright 
mailto:johnrogerswri...@gmail.com>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list.

Thanks

Level 1: Repairs and Installations
Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as needed 
to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
Replace all hoses for new engine
Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to monitor 
visually
Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
Clean stains with FSR
Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
Clean teak with teak cleaner
Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces
Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint
Re-install mast and tune rigging
Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
Re-varnish companionway door
Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
Update propane solenoid
Remake companionway door cover to fit better
Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
Clean and polish all stainless hardware
Replace gasket material on all opening ports
Repaint all dorade vents
Replace traveler cam cleat
Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
Install and varnish framework for windows
Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
Re-install all cabinets and tables
Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
Head – re-cut new mirror and install
Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work


Level 2: Updates and Improvements
Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that project
Paint steering pedestal white
Replace instruments
Replace opening port in cockpit with new
Add winch handle holders in cockpit
Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
Make set of cockpit cushions
Install a cockpit shower
Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
Replace all blocks with updated equipment
Replace all running rigging
Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws deeper as 
wood has shrunk over time)
Sand toe rail and varnish
Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
Paint interior of chain locker
Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original color
All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan 
Yachts uses this style)
Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
Replace steering cables with new
Replace all interior lighting with LED
Install Isotherm ho

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

> Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail

If you are planning to carry a 155% genoa a racing code zero ( defined here
as a flat spinnaker with the MidGirth < 75% of the Foot ) is an expensive sail
that will add benefit over a fairly small AWA.  A cruising code zero or reaching
asymmetrical might be 50% of the cost of a racing code zero and be a better fit.

> Add Code Zero sail on Facnor continuous line furling unit

Nice units. It is difficult getting a big spinnaker down, code zero or reaching
asymmetrical, if you are in a race. We normally douse when either the apparent
goes too far forward or the TWS gets above what we can carry a spinnaker in,
making the task a challenge double handing. If we head off wind to help 
shadow the spinnaker behind the genoa and main it takes us off course.

Windburn spent the last three hours of the Lake Ontario 300 flying spinnaker
at 60º AWA in 6 - 10 kts TWS.  It was a blast, routinely doing 6.2 kts in 8.4 
kts TWS.
Everything needs to be up sized, the forces involved will break things.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1





From: john wright  
 
Hello everyone 
 
I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later. 
 
I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list.  
 
Thanks 
 
Level 1: Repairs and Installations 
Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set 
Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as needed 
to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e 
Replace all hoses for new engine 
Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to monitor 
visually 
Gelcoat ? fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat 
Clean stains with FSR 
Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame) 
Clean teak with teak cleaner 
Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards 
Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces  
Hull bottom ? sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint  
Re-install mast and tune rigging 
Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again 
Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat 
Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway 
Re-varnish companionway door 
Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood 
Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit 
Update propane solenoid  
Remake companionway door cover to fit better 
Deck and House ? clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes) 
Clean and polish all stainless hardware 
Replace gasket material on all opening ports 
Repaint all dorade vents 
Replace traveler cam cleat 
Clean, sand and varnish bow platform 
Stanchion support on starboard bent ? take to shop and straighten 
Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure 
Install and varnish framework for windows 
Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed 
Re-install all cabinets and tables 
Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth 
Ice box cover ? install hardware and gasket 
Head ? re-cut new mirror and install 
Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed 
Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work 
 
 
Level 2: Updates and Improvements 
Hull repainting ? large project to be described as we get closer to that 
project 
Paint steering pedestal white 
Replace instruments 
Replace opening port in cockpit with new 
Add winch handle holders in cockpit 
Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor 
Make set of cockpit cushions 
Install a cockpit shower 
Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years) 
Replace all blocks with updated equipment 
Replace all running rigging 
Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load 
Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws deeper as 
wood has shrunk over time) 
Sand toe rail and varnish 
Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased 
Paint interior of chain locker 
Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry 
Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original color 
All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan 
Yachts uses this style) 
Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit 
Replace steering cables with new 
Replace all interior lighting with LED 
Install Isotherm hot water tank 
Replace interior cushions with new foam and fabrics 
Replace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea panel 
Add swim ladder 
 
 
Level 3: Enhancements 
Replace manual windlass with an electric version 
Upgrade chain and rope to fit new windlass 
Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail 
Add Fischer Panda Perfect Power iSeries Generator 
Install reverse cycle heat and air conditioning system 
Add custom fitted mattress 

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Inspect label and secure all wiring.replace as required.
Inspect and service (as required) all through hulls.
Inspect (and replace as required)  all hoses.
Inspect, clean and protect all key electrical grounding points.
Consider upgraded protection for exposed engine controls and instruments.
Consider upgraded ventilation for holding tank.
Ensure batteries are well secured
Upgrade air movement within lockers etc where possible.
Inspect and improve any marginal bulkhead tabbing.
When working on critical deck hardware consider upgrading backing plates,
etc, where practical.
convenient stowage for hatch drop boards, emergency tiller, ditch
bag/flares/horn.
make/buy webbing jacklines

Howzat?


Dave
33-2




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From: john wright 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:35:48 -0400
Subject: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38
Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my
purpose ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500
in 2019), after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years.
The boat is in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any
recommendations and reorganizing of the list.

Thanks

*Level 1: Repairs and Installations*
Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as
needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
Replace all hoses for new engine
Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to
monitor visually
Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
Clean stains with FSR
Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
Clean teak with teak cleaner
Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces
Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint
Re-install mast and tune rigging
Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
Re-varnish companionway door
Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
Update propane solenoid
Remake companionway door cover to fit better
Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
Clean and polish all stainless hardware
Replace gasket material on all opening ports
Repaint all dorade vents
Replace traveler cam cleat
Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
Install and varnish framework for windows
Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
Re-install all cabinets and tables
Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
Head – re-cut new mirror and install
Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work


*Level 2: Updates and Improvements*
Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that
project
Paint steering pedestal white
Replace instruments
Replace opening port in cockpit with new
Add winch handle holders in cockpit
Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
Make set of cockpit cushions
Install a cockpit shower
Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
Replace all blocks with updated equipment
Replace all running rigging
Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws
deeper as wood has shrunk over time)
Sand toe rail and varnish
Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
Paint interior of chain locker
Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original color
All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan
Yachts uses this style)
Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
Replace steering cables with new
Replace all interior lighting with LED
Install Isotherm hot water tank
Replace interior cushions with new foam and fabrics
Replace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea panel
Add swim ladder


*Level 3: Enhancements*
Replace manual windlass with an electric version
Upgrade chain and rope to fit new windlass
Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail
Add Fischer Panda Perfect Power iSeries Generator
Install reverse cycle heat and air conditioning system
Add custom fitted mattress for sleeping berths
New mainsail with deep double reef and Harken bat car track for ease of
hoist
Stack-pack for mainsail storage (see MacSails of Florida)
Gooseneck double reefing hook from South Shore Yachts
Replace standing rod rigging for peace of mind
Add Code Zero sail on Facnor continuous line

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[detroito91]

John... You've got me tired reading all this. I too have an 81 38 lf so i 
will be closely watching your progress. The cockpit cushions was satisfied 
early in the program. As was dodger, bimini, and complete covers with screening 
& glass. Our toe rails were PAINTED by previous owner! Restoring back to teak 
natural color.Keep me updated.Jim schwartzSEA YA!Washington nc
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device



-- Original message--From: john wright via CnC-ListDate: Mon, Jul 31, 
2017 6:36 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: john wright;Subject:Stus-List Refit 
for a 1981 Landfall 38
Hello everyone
I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.
I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 
Thanks
Level 1: Repairs and InstallationsReplace old set of AGM batteries with new 
setRemove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as 
needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5eReplace all hoses for new engineMove raw 
water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to monitor 
visuallyGelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoatClean stains with 
FSRRepair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)Clean teak 
with teak cleanerReplace teak combing with thicker mahogany boardsClean and 
Polish all gelcoat surfaces Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling 
ablative paint Re-install mast and tune riggingMake line hanger in cockpit 
below deck winches functional once againAdd gasket to aft access panel under 
helm seatRepair/ refinish wood framework to companionwayRe-varnish companionway 
doorMake better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition 
woodInstall the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpitUpdate propane solenoid 
Remake companionway door cover to fit betterDeck and House – clean and 
re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)Clean and polish all stainless 
hardwareReplace gasket material on all opening portsRepaint all dorade 
ventsReplace traveler cam cleatClean, sand and varnish bow platformStanchion 
support on starboard bent – take to shop and straightenAdd maintenance coat of 
varnish on floors and re-secureInstall and varnish framework for windowsRepair 
and revarnish bulkheads where neededRe-install all cabinets and tablesFinish 
installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berthIce box cover – 
install hardware and gasketHead – re-cut new mirror and installForward cabin 
has trim work that needs to be installedBrow in forward cabin to be replaced 
with new trim work

Level 2: Updates and ImprovementsHull repainting – large project to be 
described as we get closer to that projectPaint steering pedestal whiteReplace 
instrumentsReplace opening port in cockpit with newAdd winch handle holders in 
cockpitPaint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floorMake set of cockpit 
cushionsInstall a cockpit showerRe-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates 
(last another 20 years)Replace all blocks with updated equipmentReplace all 
running riggingReplace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under 
loadReplace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws 
deeper as wood has shrunk over time)Sand toe rail and varnishWinches to be 
stripped cleaned and greasedPaint interior of chain lockerMake a grating for 
chain locker to help rode to dryStanchion bases and cleats to be removed and 
powder coated to original colorAll deck non-skid to be renewed with white or 
Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan Yachts uses this style)Add stanchion rollers for 
headsail furling line to lead to cockpitReplace steering cables with newReplace 
all interior lighting with LEDInstall Isotherm hot water tankReplace interior 
cushions with new foam and fabricsReplace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea 
panelAdd swim ladder

Level 3: EnhancementsReplace manual windlass with an electric versionUpgrade 
chain and rope to fit new windlassAdd pad-eye on bow platform for code zero 
sailAdd Fischer Panda Perfect Power iSeries GeneratorInstall reverse cycle heat 
and air conditioning systemAdd custom fitted mattress for sleeping berthsNew 
mainsail with deep double reef and Harken bat car track for ease of 
hoistStack-pack for mainsail storage (see MacSails of Florida)Gooseneck double 
reefing hook from South Shore YachtsReplace standing rod rigging for peace of 
mindAdd Code Zero sail on Facnor continuous line furling unitAdd Wisker 
poleUpgrade roller furling unitAdd Mantus anchor
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[john wright via CnC-List]

Russ, I didn’t say whats going into the bilge!!


Chuck, thank you for the suggestion. We are actually sailing and will be at the 
New Bedford Yacht club next week. 


> On Jul 31, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I didn't find increase beer stowage and wine locker volume and adding an ice 
> maker in this list.
> 
> cheers, Russ
> Sweet 35 mk-1
> sent from an old HP machine, running XP
> 
> At 03:48 PM 31/07/2017, you wrote:
>> New Steering chain and cables. Pedestal wheel shaft bearing lubrication or 
>> replacement. Check steering idler below pedestal (sheaves, bearings, 
>> corrosion).
>> It is unwise to spend countless hours "varnishing" and installing gadgets to 
>> prep for a cruise but give no thought to the steering system.
>> Chuck Gilchrest 
>> S/V Half Magic
>> 1983 35 Landfall
>> Padanaram, MA
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 6:35 PM, john wright via CnC-List > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone
>>> 
>>> I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my 
>>> purpose ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 
>>> in 2019), after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. 
>>> The boat is in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.
>>> 
>>> I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
>>> recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Level 1: Repairs and Installations
>>> Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
>>> Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as 
>>> needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
>>> Replace all hoses for new engine
>>> Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to 
>>> monitor visually
>>> Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoatt
>>> Clean stains with FSR
>>> Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
>>> Clean teak with teak cleaner
>>> Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
>>> Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces 
>>> Hull bottom – sand and repaint withh anti-fouling ablative paint 
>>> Re-install mast and tune rigging
>>> Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
>>> Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
>>> Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
>>> Re-varnish companionway door
>>> Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
>>> Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
>>> Update propane solenoid 
>>> Remake companionway door cover to fit better
>>> Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
>>> Clean and polish all stainless hardware
>>> Replace gasket material on all opening ports
>>> Repaint all dorade vents
>>> Replace traveler cam cleat
>>> Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
>>> Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
>>> Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
>>> Install and varnish framework for windows
>>> Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
>>> Re-install all cabinets and tables
>>> Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
>>> Ice box cover – installl hardware and gasket
>>> Head – re-cut new mirror aand install
>>> Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
>>> Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Level 2: Updates and Improvements
>>> Hull repainting – large project to be deescribed as we get closer to that 
>>> project
>>> Paint steering pedestal white
>>> Replace instruments
>>> Replace opening port in cockpit with new
>>> Add winch handle holders in cockpit
>>> Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
>>> Make set of cockpit cushions
>>> Install a cockpit shower
>>> Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
>>> Replace all blocks with updated equipment
>>> Replace all running rigging
>>> Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
>>> Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws 
>>> deeper as wood has shrunk over time)
>>> Sand toe rail and varnish
>>> Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
>>> Paint interior of chain locker
>>> Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
>>> Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original color
>>> All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan 
>>> Yachts uses this style)
>>> Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
>>> Replace steering cables with new
>>> Replace all interior lighting with LED
>>> Install Isotherm hot water tank
>>> Replace interior cushions with new foam and fabrics
>>> Replace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea panel
>>> Add swim ladder
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Level 3: Enhancements
>>> Replace manual windlass with an electric version
>>> Upgrade chain and rope to fit new windlass
>>> Add pad-e

Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

I didn't find increase beer stowage and wine 
locker volume and adding an ice maker in this list.


cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
sent from an old HP machine, running XP

At 03:48 PM 31/07/2017, you wrote:
New Steering chain and cables. Pedestal wheel 
shaft bearing lubrication or replacement. Check 
steering idler below pedestal (sheaves, bearings, corrosion).
It is unwise to spend countless hours 
"varnishing" and installing gadgets to prep for 
a cruise but give no thought to the steering system.

Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2017, at 6:35 PM, john wright via 
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is 
the best boat  for my purpose ( sailing around 
Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 
1500 in 2019), after looking or sailing at 
least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat 
is in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.


I have the work broken down into three 
categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list.


Thanks

Level 1: Repairs and Installations
Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine 
room, rebuild engine bed as needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e

Replace all hoses for new engine
Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel 
filter to easier location to monitor visually

Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoatt
Clean stains with FSR
Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
Clean teak with teak cleaner
Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces
Hull bottom – sand and repaint withh anti-fouling ablative paint
Re-install mast and tune rigging
Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
Re-varnish companionway door
Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
Update propane solenoid
Remake companionway door cover to fit better
Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
Clean and polish all stainless hardware
Replace gasket material on all opening ports
Repaint all dorade vents
Replace traveler cam cleat
Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
Install and varnish framework for windows
Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
Re-install all cabinets and tables
Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
Ice box cover – installl hardware and gasket
Head – re-cut new mirror aand install
Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work


Level 2: Updates and Improvements
Hull repainting – large project to be 
deescribed as we get closer to that project

Paint steering pedestal white
Replace instruments
Replace opening port in cockpit with new
Add winch handle holders in cockpit
Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
Make set of cockpit cushions
Install a cockpit shower
Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
Replace all blocks with updated equipment
Replace all running rigging
Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail 
(may need to reset screws deeper as wood has shrunk over time)

Sand toe rail and varnish
Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
Paint interior of chain locker
Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original color
All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or 
Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan Yachts uses this style)

Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
Replace steering cables with new
Replace all interior lighting with LED
Install Isotherm hot water tank
Replace interior cushions with new foam and fabrics
Replace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea panel
Add swim ladder


Level 3: Enhancements
Replace manual windlass with an electric version
Upgrade chain and rope to fit new windlass
Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail
Add Fischer Panda Perfect Power iSeries Generator
Install reverse cycle heat and air conditioning system
Add custom fitted mattress for sleeping berths
New mainsail with deep double reef and Harken bat car track for ease of hoist
Stack-pack for mainsail storage (see MacSails of Florida)
Gooseneck double reefing hook from South Shore Yachts
Replace standing rod rigging for peace of mind
Add Code Zero sail on Facnor continuous line furling unit
Add Wisker pole
Upgrade roller furling unit
Add Mantus anchor
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[james via CnC-List]

John,

I'll make a few comments on projects that I have done

Companion way doors, if you want to redo the veneer, look at 
woodworkersource.com.

Awesome place to get teak veneer to go over existing or new panels...

Cockpit cushions- I can not recommend Bottomsiders.com highly enough. 
Awesome cushions.


ACDC panel- I went with Blue Seas, no regrets

Air Conditioning- Webasto, no questions! Awesome product, no problems.

Deck hardware- Guarhauer, without a doubt!

James Taylor

C&C 38

Oriental, NC


On 7/31/2017 6:35 PM, john wright via CnC-List wrote:

Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my 
purpose ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 
1500 in 2019), after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the 
past 4 years. The boat is in better than average condition, I will 
post pictures later.


I have the work broken down into three categories, and would 
appreciate any recommendations and reorganizing of the list.


Thanks

*Level 1: Repairs and Installations*
Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed 
as needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e

Replace all hoses for new engine
Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location 
to monitor visually

Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
Clean stains with FSR
Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
Clean teak with teak cleaner
Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces
Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint
Re-install mast and tune rigging
Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
Re-varnish companionway door
Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
Update propane solenoid
Remake companionway door cover to fit better
Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
Clean and polish all stainless hardware
Replace gasket material on all opening ports
Repaint all dorade vents
Replace traveler cam cleat
Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
Install and varnish framework for windows
Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
Re-install all cabinets and tables
Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
Head – re-cut new mirror and install
Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work


*Level 2: Updates and Improvements*
Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to 
that project

Paint steering pedestal white
Replace instruments
Replace opening port in cockpit with new
Add winch handle holders in cockpit
Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
Make set of cockpit cushions
Install a cockpit shower
Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
Replace all blocks with updated equipment
Replace all running rigging
Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws 
deeper as wood has shrunk over time)

Sand toe rail and varnish
Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
Paint interior of chain locker
Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original 
color
All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow 
(Tartan Yachts uses this style)

Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
Replace steering cables with new
Replace all interior lighting with LED
Install Isotherm hot water tank
Replace interior cushions with new foam and fabrics
Replace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea panel
Add swim ladder
*
*
*
*
*Level 3: Enhancements*
Replace manual windlass with an electric version
Upgrade chain and rope to fit new windlass
Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail
Add Fischer Panda Perfect Power iSeries Generator
Install reverse cycle heat and air conditioning system
Add custom fitted mattress for sleeping berths
New mainsail with deep double reef and Harken bat car track for ease 
of hoist

Stack-pack for mainsail storage (see MacSails of Florida)
Gooseneck double reefing hook from South Shore Yachts
Replace standing rod rigging for peace of mind
Add Code Zero sail on Facnor continuous line furling unit
Add Wisker pole
Upgrade roller furling unit
Add Mantus anchor



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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[john wright via CnC-List]

 Dennis: My wife refers to Wallys Bolg as my  “porn”, because I watch and read 
it every day. I am actually trying to reach him if anyone can help.

Thanks


> On Jul 31, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you visited Wally's site?  
> http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/projlist.htm 
> 
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:35 PM, john wright via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Hello everyone
> 
> I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose 
> ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
> after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
> in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.
> 
> I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
> recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Level 1: Repairs and Installations
> Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
> Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as 
> needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
> Replace all hoses for new engine
> Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to 
> monitor visually
> Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
> Clean stains with FSR
> Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
> Clean teak with teak cleaner
> Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
> Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces 
> Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint 
> Re-install mast and tune rigging
> Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
> Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
> Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
> Re-varnish companionway door
> Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
> Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
> Update propane solenoid 
> Remake companionway door cover to fit better
> Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
> Clean and polish all stainless hardware
> Replace gasket material on all opening ports
> Repaint all dorade vents
> Replace traveler cam cleat
> Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
> Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
> Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
> Install and varnish framework for windows
> Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
> Re-install all cabinets and tables
> Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
> Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
> Head – re-cut new mirror and install
> Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
> Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work
> 
> 
> Level 2: Updates and Improvements
> Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that 
> project
> Paint steering pedestal white
> Replace instruments
> Replace opening port in cockpit with new
> Add winch handle holders in cockpit
> Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
> Make set of cockpit cushions
> Install a cockpit shower
> Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
> Replace all blocks with updated equipment
> Replace all running rigging
> Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
> Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws deeper 
> as wood has shrunk over time)
> Sand toe rail and varnish
> Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
> Paint interior of chain locker
> Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
> Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original color
> All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan 
> Yachts uses this style)
> Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
> Replace steering cables with new
> Replace all interior lighting with LED
> Install Isotherm hot water tank
> Replace interior cushions with new foam and fabrics
> Replace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea panel
> Add swim ladder
> 
> 
> Level 3: Enhancements
> Replace manual windlass with an electric version
> Upgrade chain and rope to fit new windlass
> Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail
> Add Fischer Panda Perfect Power iSeries Generator
> Install reverse cycle heat and air conditioning system
> Add custom fitted mattress for sleeping berths
> New mainsail with deep double reef and Harken bat car track for ease of hoist
> Stack-pack for mainsail storage (see MacSails of Florida)
> Gooseneck double reefing hook from South Shore Yachts
> Replace standing rod rigging for peace of mind
> Add Code Zero sail on Facnor continuous line furling unit
> Add Wisker pole
> Upgrade roller furling unit
> Add Mantus anchor
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Have you visited Wally's site?
http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/projlist.htm

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:35 PM, john wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone
>
> I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my
> purpose ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500
> in 2019), after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years.
> The boat is in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.
>
> I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate
> any recommendations and reorganizing of the list.
>
> Thanks
>
> *Level 1: Repairs and Installations*
> Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
> Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as
> needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
> Replace all hoses for new engine
> Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to
> monitor visually
> Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
> Clean stains with FSR
> Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
> Clean teak with teak cleaner
> Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
> Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces
> Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint
> Re-install mast and tune rigging
> Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
> Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
> Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
> Re-varnish companionway door
> Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
> Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
> Update propane solenoid
> Remake companionway door cover to fit better
> Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
> Clean and polish all stainless hardware
> Replace gasket material on all opening ports
> Repaint all dorade vents
> Replace traveler cam cleat
> Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
> Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
> Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
> Install and varnish framework for windows
> Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
> Re-install all cabinets and tables
> Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
> Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
> Head – re-cut new mirror and install
> Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
> Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work
>
>
> *Level 2: Updates and Improvements*
> Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that
> project
> Paint steering pedestal white
> Replace instruments
> Replace opening port in cockpit with new
> Add winch handle holders in cockpit
> Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
> Make set of cockpit cushions
> Install a cockpit shower
> Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
> Replace all blocks with updated equipment
> Replace all running rigging
> Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
> Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws
> deeper as wood has shrunk over time)
> Sand toe rail and varnish
> Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
> Paint interior of chain locker
> Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
> Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original
> color
> All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan
> Yachts uses this style)
> Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
> Replace steering cables with new
> Replace all interior lighting with LED
> Install Isotherm hot water tank
> Replace interior cushions with new foam and fabrics
> Replace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea panel
> Add swim ladder
>
>
> *Level 3: Enhancements*
> Replace manual windlass with an electric version
> Upgrade chain and rope to fit new windlass
> Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail
> Add Fischer Panda Perfect Power iSeries Generator
> Install reverse cycle heat and air conditioning system
> Add custom fitted mattress for sleeping berths
> New mainsail with deep double reef and Harken bat car track for ease of
> hoist
> Stack-pack for mainsail storage (see MacSails of Florida)
> Gooseneck double reefing hook from South Shore Yachts
> Replace standing rod rigging for peace of mind
> Add Code Zero sail on Facnor continuous line furling unit
> Add Wisker pole
> Upgrade roller furling unit
> Add Mantus anchor
>
>
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> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
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>
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Re: Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

New Steering chain and cables. Pedestal wheel shaft bearing lubrication or 
replacement. Check steering idler below pedestal (sheaves, bearings, corrosion).
It is unwise to spend countless hours "varnishing" and installing gadgets to 
prep for a cruise but give no thought to the steering system.
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 Landfall
Padanaram, MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2017, at 6:35 PM, john wright via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone
> 
> I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose 
> ( sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
> after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
> in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.
> 
> I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
> recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Level 1: Repairs and Installations
> Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
> Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as 
> needed to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
> Replace all hoses for new engine
> Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to 
> monitor visually
> Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
> Clean stains with FSR
> Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
> Clean teak with teak cleaner
> Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
> Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces 
> Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint 
> Re-install mast and tune rigging
> Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
> Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
> Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
> Re-varnish companionway door
> Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
> Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
> Update propane solenoid 
> Remake companionway door cover to fit better
> Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
> Clean and polish all stainless hardware
> Replace gasket material on all opening ports
> Repaint all dorade vents
> Replace traveler cam cleat
> Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
> Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
> Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
> Install and varnish framework for windows
> Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
> Re-install all cabinets and tables
> Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
> Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
> Head – re-cut new mirror and install
> Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
> Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work
> 
> 
> Level 2: Updates and Improvements
> Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that 
> project
> Paint steering pedestal white
> Replace instruments
> Replace opening port in cockpit with new
> Add winch handle holders in cockpit
> Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
> Make set of cockpit cushions
> Install a cockpit shower
> Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
> Replace all blocks with updated equipment
> Replace all running rigging
> Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
> Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws deeper 
> as wood has shrunk over time)
> Sand toe rail and varnish
> Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
> Paint interior of chain locker
> Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
> Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original color
> All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan 
> Yachts uses this style)
> Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
> Replace steering cables with new
> Replace all interior lighting with LED
> Install Isotherm hot water tank
> Replace interior cushions with new foam and fabrics
> Replace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea panel
> Add swim ladder
> 
> 
> Level 3: Enhancements
> Replace manual windlass with an electric version
> Upgrade chain and rope to fit new windlass
> Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail
> Add Fischer Panda Perfect Power iSeries Generator
> Install reverse cycle heat and air conditioning system
> Add custom fitted mattress for sleeping berths
> New mainsail with deep double reef and Harken bat car track for ease of hoist
> Stack-pack for mainsail storage (see MacSails of Florida)
> Gooseneck double reefing hook from South Shore Yachts
> Replace standing rod rigging for peace of mind
> Add Code Zero sail on Facnor continuous line furling unit
> Add Wisker pole
> Upgrade roller furling unit
> Add Mantus anchor
> 
> ___
> 
> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish 
> to make a contribution

Stus-List Refit for a 1981 Landfall 38

[john wright via CnC-List]

Hello everyone

I am about to begin a complete refit on what is the best boat  for my purpose ( 
sailing around Cape Code as we get ready to do the Caribbean 1500 in 2019), 
after looking or sailing at least 100 boat over the past 4 years. The boat is 
in better than average condition, I will post pictures later.

I have the work broken down into three categories, and would appreciate any 
recommendations and reorganizing of the list. 

Thanks

Level 1: Repairs and Installations
Replace old set of AGM batteries with new set
Remove old engine, clean and repaint engine room, rebuild engine bed as needed 
to fit the new Yanmar 3JH5e
Replace all hoses for new engine
Move raw water sea strainer and Racor fuel filter to easier location to monitor 
visually
Gelcoat – fill all chips and nicks with gelcoat
Clean stains with FSR
Repair teak grating at pedestal (epoxy the connections to frame)
Clean teak with teak cleaner
Replace teak combing with thicker mahogany boards
Clean and Polish all gelcoat surfaces 
Hull bottom – sand and repaint with anti-fouling ablative paint 
Re-install mast and tune rigging
Make line hanger in cockpit below deck winches functional once again
Add gasket to aft access panel under helm seat
Repair/ refinish wood framework to companionway
Re-varnish companionway door
Make better drainage in port cockpit locker and revarnish partition wood
Install the new Whale Gusher manual pump in cockpit
Update propane solenoid 
Remake companionway door cover to fit better
Deck and House – clean and re-varnish woodwork (handrails, dorade boxes)
Clean and polish all stainless hardware
Replace gasket material on all opening ports
Repaint all dorade vents
Replace traveler cam cleat
Clean, sand and varnish bow platform
Stanchion support on starboard bent – take to shop and straighten
Add maintenance coat of varnish on floors and re-secure
Install and varnish framework for windows
Repair and revarnish bulkheads where needed
Re-install all cabinets and tables
Finish installation of canvas cover for ceiling in forward berth
Ice box cover – install hardware and gasket
Head – re-cut new mirror and install
Forward cabin has trim work that needs to be installed
Brow in forward cabin to be replaced with new trim work


Level 2: Updates and Improvements
Hull repainting – large project to be described as we get closer to that project
Paint steering pedestal white
Replace instruments
Replace opening port in cockpit with new
Add winch handle holders in cockpit
Paint new non-skid in cockpit seats and floor
Make set of cockpit cushions
Install a cockpit shower
Re-bed all deck gear, hardware and chainplates (last another 20 years)
Replace all blocks with updated equipment
Replace all running rigging
Replace genoa sheet cars with moveable sheet lead under load
Replace missing wood bungs on teak toe rail (may need to reset screws deeper as 
wood has shrunk over time)
Sand toe rail and varnish
Winches to be stripped cleaned and greased
Paint interior of chain locker
Make a grating for chain locker to help rode to dry
Stanchion bases and cleats to be removed and powder coated to original color
All deck non-skid to be renewed with white or Hatteras soft yellow (Tartan 
Yachts uses this style)
Add stanchion rollers for headsail furling line to lead to cockpit
Replace steering cables with new
Replace all interior lighting with LED
Install Isotherm hot water tank
Replace interior cushions with new foam and fabrics
Replace AC/DC switch panel with BluSea panel
Add swim ladder


Level 3: Enhancements
Replace manual windlass with an electric version
Upgrade chain and rope to fit new windlass
Add pad-eye on bow platform for code zero sail
Add Fischer Panda Perfect Power iSeries Generator
Install reverse cycle heat and air conditioning system
Add custom fitted mattress for sleeping berths
New mainsail with deep double reef and Harken bat car track for ease of hoist
Stack-pack for mainsail storage (see MacSails of Florida)
Gooseneck double reefing hook from South Shore Yachts
Replace standing rod rigging for peace of mind
Add Code Zero sail on Facnor continuous line furling unit
Add Wisker pole
Upgrade roller furling unit
Add Mantus anchor

___

This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to 
make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
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All Contributions are greatly appreciated!