Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[bobmor99 . via CnC-List]

I called the GPS Store this morning to ask why the Standard Horizon (SH)
CPN700i was in their printed catalog (@ $550 USD) but was not online.
They've been out of them for months and the model has been discontinued.
So, I called Binnacle Canada (their Canadian website had it for $800 CND
(~$580 USD) with free shipping) but their US website did not. But, they
told me there would be customs and shipping fees totaling $150 so I said no
thanks.

Earlier this evening I was able get my PC to send sample GPS messages into
my free SH 155C via two pins in its Smart GPS socket so I'll be going the
economical route once again. I'll make a plug out of something, maybe butyl
- if I could only get it to harden  :-)

--Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A “smart GPS cable” supplies NMEA data. The older S-H plotters used an
> actual RF antenna. The CP155C uses a smart antenna, so you can feed NMEA
> data into that port if you have a cable. To use the other NMEA port, you
> likely need to go through the menus and enable  that input if that is a
> choice. You might be able to get S-H tech support to help.
>
> *12VDC Power and NMEA Cable*
>
> *Pin Wire Color Description Connection Example*
>
> 1 Black Battery Ground Connect to battery ground and *Black wire of GPS
> Antenna*
>
> 2 Red Battery Positive Connect to Battery Positive and *Red wire of GPS
> Antenna*
>
> 3 Green NMEA Common Common for NMEA devices
>
> 4 Blue VHF Input Conncect to VHF with DSC and DSE output
>
> 5 Brown VHF output Connect to VHF to supply GPS position data
>
> 6 Gray Fishfinder Input Standard Horizon Fishfinder, see FF520 owner's
> manual
>
> 7 White Fish Finder Output Standard Horizon Fishfinder, see FF520 owner's
> manual
>
> 8 Yellow GPS Antenna Input Connect to GPS Antenna *Green wire*
>
> *Smart GPS Cable*
>
> *Pin Wire Color Description Connection Example*
>
> 1 Red Battery Positive Connect to Battery Positive and *Red wire of GPS*
>
> *Antenna*
>
> 2 Green Smart GPS NMEA Input Connect to Smart GPS Input
>
> 3 Brown Smart GPS NMEA Output Connect to Smart GPS Output
>
> 4 NC
>
> 5 NC
>
> 6 Black/Yellow Battery Ground Connect to battery ground and *Black wire
> of GPS*
>
>
>
>
>
> If you really need one, I have a spare Smart Antenna I could send you for
> $75.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I
>
>
>
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> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* bobmor99 .
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer
>
>
>
> Hi Joel,
>
> It's unclear, from the manual, whether the GPS info must come into the
> Standard Horizon (SH) CP155C chartplotter via the connection to an external
> GPS antenna (the typical setup) or whether it could alternatively come in
> via the NMEA 0183 inbound wire in the Power and NMEA cable (which I do
> have). I tried sending a NMEA GPS data stream into the the plotter via the
> latter path, trying output from a handheld Garmin GPS and from a PC's
> serial (DB9) port but neither stream was seen by the Chartplotter. (I
> verified baud rates and all that.)
>
> It's looking like the inbound (to the plotter) NMEA wire in the Power and
> NMEA cable is just for DSC and DSE messages.
>
> It seemed like a doable hack, but now I don't think that's the case.
>
> Seeing as I don't have the plug at the end of the "Smart GPS Cable", I'm
> going to bail out on this one.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob M
>
> P.S. Perhaps too much information, but I would have used the NMEA 0183 GPS
> output from my new SH VX2200 radio as the GPS source if the SH CP155C were
> able to ingest it via the Power and NMEA cable.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Does the 155 require an external antenna?
>
> Joel
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

See if this helps:
13.0.3 Serial Ports
If you are having problems receiving data from the position-finding instrument, 
this test
should help determine the problem.
Change Parameters
To change the parameters of the serial interface. This menu allows to select 
the Port (Signal
Source) between PORT 1 or PORT 2, the Baud Rate between 300, 1200, 2400, 4800 or
9600, the Data Bits (Word Length) between 7 or 8, the Parity between even, odd 
or none,
the Stop Bits between 1 or 2. Default settings are: Port = PORT 1, Baud Rate = 
4800, Data
Bits = 8, Parity = none, Stop Bits = 1.
Input Data Display
To allow the chartplotter to act as a computer terminal and display the 
incoming data exactly
as it is received.
If the data displayed on the screen is unrecognizable, you may have selected 
the wrong
input parameters for your particular receiver, for example, Baud Rate 9600 
instead of Baud
Rate 4800. Check your receiver manual to be sure that you have selected the 
proper
parameter. If the screen is blank, you may have a broken connection, and no 
data is being
received or you may have connected the device to the other input port.
Use [ZOOM IN] to stop (or continue after pause) data displa

http://www.standardhorizon.com/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=8317=85=CP155C%20CP175C%20CP1000C%20Manual.pdf=application/pdf

From: Della Barba, Joe
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 2:43 PM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
Subject: RE: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

A “smart GPS cable” supplies NMEA data. The older S-H plotters used an actual 
RF antenna. The CP155C uses a smart antenna, so you can feed NMEA data into 
that port if you have a cable. To use the other NMEA port, you likely need to 
go through the menus and enable  that input if that is a choice. You might be 
able to get S-H tech support to help.
12VDC Power and NMEA Cable
Pin Wire Color Description Connection Example
1 Black Battery Ground Connect to battery ground and Black wire of GPS Antenna
2 Red Battery Positive Connect to Battery Positive and Red wire of GPS Antenna
3 Green NMEA Common Common for NMEA devices
4 Blue VHF Input Conncect to VHF with DSC and DSE output
5 Brown VHF output Connect to VHF to supply GPS position data
6 Gray Fishfinder Input Standard Horizon Fishfinder, see FF520 owner's manual
7 White Fish Finder Output Standard Horizon Fishfinder, see FF520 owner's manual
8 Yellow GPS Antenna Input Connect to GPS Antenna Green wire
Smart GPS Cable
Pin Wire Color Description Connection Example
1 Red Battery Positive Connect to Battery Positive and Red wire of GPS
Antenna
2 Green Smart GPS NMEA Input Connect to Smart GPS Input
3 Brown Smart GPS NMEA Output Connect to Smart GPS Output
4 NC
5 NC
6 Black/Yellow Battery Ground Connect to battery ground and Black wire of GPS


If you really need one, I have a spare Smart Antenna I could send you for $75.

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: bobmor99 .
Subject: Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

Hi Joel,
It's unclear, from the manual, whether the GPS info must come into the Standard 
Horizon (SH) CP155C chartplotter via the connection to an external GPS antenna 
(the typical setup) or whether it could alternatively come in via the NMEA 0183 
inbound wire in the Power and NMEA cable (which I do have). I tried sending a 
NMEA GPS data stream into the the plotter via the latter path, trying output 
from a handheld Garmin GPS and from a PC's serial (DB9) port but neither stream 
was seen by the Chartplotter. (I verified baud rates and all that.)
It's looking like the inbound (to the plotter) NMEA wire in the Power and NMEA 
cable is just for DSC and DSE messages.
It seemed like a doable hack, but now I don't think that's the case.
Seeing as I don't have the plug at the end of the "Smart GPS Cable", I'm going 
to bail out on this one.
Cheers,
Bob M
P.S. Perhaps too much information, but I would have used the NMEA 0183 GPS 
output from my new SH VX2200 radio as the GPS source if the SH CP155C were able 
to ingest it via the Power and NMEA cable.


On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Does the 155 require an external antenna?
Joel


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Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

A “smart GPS cable” supplies NMEA data. The older S-H plotters used an actual 
RF antenna. The CP155C uses a smart antenna, so you can feed NMEA data into 
that port if you have a cable. To use the other NMEA port, you likely need to 
go through the menus and enable  that input if that is a choice. You might be 
able to get S-H tech support to help.
12VDC Power and NMEA Cable
Pin Wire Color Description Connection Example
1 Black Battery Ground Connect to battery ground and Black wire of GPS Antenna
2 Red Battery Positive Connect to Battery Positive and Red wire of GPS Antenna
3 Green NMEA Common Common for NMEA devices
4 Blue VHF Input Conncect to VHF with DSC and DSE output
5 Brown VHF output Connect to VHF to supply GPS position data
6 Gray Fishfinder Input Standard Horizon Fishfinder, see FF520 owner's manual
7 White Fish Finder Output Standard Horizon Fishfinder, see FF520 owner's manual
8 Yellow GPS Antenna Input Connect to GPS Antenna Green wire
Smart GPS Cable
Pin Wire Color Description Connection Example
1 Red Battery Positive Connect to Battery Positive and Red wire of GPS
Antenna
2 Green Smart GPS NMEA Input Connect to Smart GPS Input
3 Brown Smart GPS NMEA Output Connect to Smart GPS Output
4 NC
5 NC
6 Black/Yellow Battery Ground Connect to battery ground and Black wire of GPS


If you really need one, I have a spare Smart Antenna I could send you for $75.

Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

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Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 9:21 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: bobmor99 .
Subject: Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

Hi Joel,
It's unclear, from the manual, whether the GPS info must come into the Standard 
Horizon (SH) CP155C chartplotter via the connection to an external GPS antenna 
(the typical setup) or whether it could alternatively come in via the NMEA 0183 
inbound wire in the Power and NMEA cable (which I do have). I tried sending a 
NMEA GPS data stream into the the plotter via the latter path, trying output 
from a handheld Garmin GPS and from a PC's serial (DB9) port but neither stream 
was seen by the Chartplotter. (I verified baud rates and all that.)
It's looking like the inbound (to the plotter) NMEA wire in the Power and NMEA 
cable is just for DSC and DSE messages.
It seemed like a doable hack, but now I don't think that's the case.
Seeing as I don't have the plug at the end of the "Smart GPS Cable", I'm going 
to bail out on this one.
Cheers,
Bob M
P.S. Perhaps too much information, but I would have used the NMEA 0183 GPS 
output from my new SH VX2200 radio as the GPS source if the SH CP155C were able 
to ingest it via the Power and NMEA cable.


On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Does the 155 require an external antenna?
Joel


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Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[Eric Frank via CnC-List]

Bob,

I have two CP150’s, a slightly earlier version than your 155, and can confirm 
that they do accept all the standard NEMA 0183 codes used for navigation.  Mine 
do require an external antenna to use its internal GPS, but it sounds like you 
are already doing that. But they certainly don’t use that for external input.  
I use mine as a display of COG and SOG that it is getting from the chartplotter 
at the helm.  You do need to match the baud rates, of course.  Also, note that 
the 150 (and I assume 155) do NOT have differential inputs.  Instead, what is 
usually the - NMEA input is called “ground”, pin 3, and the wire is green.  The 
input wire for port 1, pin 4, is blue.

You may have missed that you have to put the CP150 into SLAVE mode to disable 
its own GPS unit and use it as a monitor. Here is the page in the manual that 
explains how to do that:
SLAVE
Press the “MENU” + ADVANCE SETUP + “ENTER” + INPUT OUTPUT + “ENTER” + INTERNAL 
GPS SETUP + “ENTER” + OPERATING MODE + “ENTER”+ SLAVE + “ENTER” 

If you don’t have the manual, I can send you a pdf copy.

Eric
Cat's Paw
C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA

> On Feb 21, 2016, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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> Hi Joel,
> 
> It's unclear, from the manual, whether the GPS info must come into the
> Standard Horizon (SH) CP155C chartplotter via the connection to an external
> GPS antenna (the typical setup) or whether it could alternatively come in
> via the NMEA 0183 inbound wire in the Power and NMEA cable (which I do
> have). I tried sending a NMEA GPS data stream into the the plotter via the
> latter path, trying output from a handheld Garmin GPS and from a PC's
> serial (DB9) port but neither stream was seen by the Chartplotter. (I
> verified baud rates and all that.)
> It's looking like the inbound (to the plotter) NMEA wire in the Power and
> NMEA cable is just for DSC and DSE messages.
> It seemed like a doable hack, but now I don't think that's the case.
> Seeing as I don't have the plug at the end of the "Smart GPS Cable", I'm
> going to bail out on this one.
> Cheers,
> Bob M
> P.S. Perhaps too much information, but I would have used the NMEA 0183 GPS
> output from my new SH VX2200 radio as the GPS source if the SH CP155C were
> able to ingest it via the Power and NMEA cable.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Does the 155 require an external antenna?
>> Joel
>> 
>> 

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Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[bobmor99 . via CnC-List]

Hi Joel,

It's unclear, from the manual, whether the GPS info must come into the
Standard Horizon (SH) CP155C chartplotter via the connection to an external
GPS antenna (the typical setup) or whether it could alternatively come in
via the NMEA 0183 inbound wire in the Power and NMEA cable (which I do
have). I tried sending a NMEA GPS data stream into the the plotter via the
latter path, trying output from a handheld Garmin GPS and from a PC's
serial (DB9) port but neither stream was seen by the Chartplotter. (I
verified baud rates and all that.)
It's looking like the inbound (to the plotter) NMEA wire in the Power and
NMEA cable is just for DSC and DSE messages.
It seemed like a doable hack, but now I don't think that's the case.
Seeing as I don't have the plug at the end of the "Smart GPS Cable", I'm
going to bail out on this one.
Cheers,
Bob M
P.S. Perhaps too much information, but I would have used the NMEA 0183 GPS
output from my new SH VX2200 radio as the GPS source if the SH CP155C were
able to ingest it via the Power and NMEA cable.


On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Does the 155 require an external antenna?
> Joel
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Does the 155 require an external antenna?
Joel

On Saturday, February 20, 2016, bobmor99 . via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thank you, Fred.
>
> I'm still figuring out a few things. I was recently gifted an old Standard
> Horizon 155 CP155C (without the GPS) from a dock neighbor who upgraded to a
> SH CPN 700i. I couldn't get a GPS signal into the CP155C and am about to
> relegate it to emergency backup status. The charts display fine but they'd
> have to be "manually cross referenced" to an externally-supplied GPS
> position. Another first world problem...  :-)
>
> I really like my shiny new SH VX2200 and it looks like it would
> inter-operate nicely with the SH CPN 700i so I'll probably pull the trigger
> on that next week. These are amazing times.
>
> I'm kinda liking Standard Horizon in general. They don't seem driven by
> marketeers. I don't mind wading through some semi-techy, almost complete,
> documentation. And, they haven't taken the proprietary route.
>
> I have to take a closer look at my current depth transducer. IIRC, it was
> designed to be easily removed
> from inside the boat - just like its long-broken speed paddlewheel
> neighbor. That might limit my choices for a plug and play, in the water,
> replacement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> ---Bob Moriarty
> Ox 33-1
> Jax, FL
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Bob -- if you're interested, I can price that transducer for you from my
>> vendor.
>>
>> -- Fred
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Fred,
>> It's disappointing that a simple depth = x? question would be complicated
>> by vendors' proprietary proclivities - especially with long established
>> NMEA 0183 and 2000 standards in place.
>> I'll check out the DT800 and calibrate it using the various places I've
>> run aground.  :-)
>> I'll send you a DSC call if the calibration effort goes awry.  :-)
>> --Bob M
>> Ox 33-1
>> Jax, FL
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Bob — yes, Airmar makes a line of “smart” transducers that have NMEA2000
>>> direct output.  For depth, you’d want the DT800; the best option for you
>>> would be the one made by Airmar for Furuno, as it has an NMEA2000 connector
>>> ready to plug into an NMEA2000 backbone; this transducer will run you about
>>> $270.00.  The issue you’re going to run into is that you won’t be able to
>>> “calibrate” the transducer (for depth offset, for instance) without other
>>> equipment from the same manufacturer on the bus, as the calibration schemes
>>> have not been made a direct part of the NMEA2k standard, so each
>>> manufacturer handles it differently.  And you’ll need to start from zero on
>>> an NMEA2000 bus.
>>>
>>> — Fred
>>>
>>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>>>
>>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 7:09 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> My original depth transducer and display have given up the ghost.
>>> Is there a preferred, non-proprietary depth transducer that can output
>>> NMEA 0183 or NMEA 2000 depth messages?
>>>
>>> Looking to buy a Standard Horizon CPN700i chartplotter,
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts=84=DAF88A33AD0AD868B77CC24EF82D4880=3=0
>>>
>>> which can handle both NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000 input.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> --Bob M
>>>
>>> BTW, I recently installed a Standard Horizon GX2200 VHF/GPS/AIS unit -
>>> (my first grown-up VHF). It's great, especially with the RAM mic. (Thanks
>>> for that suggestion, Dennis C. !)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[bobmor99 . via CnC-List]

Thank you, Fred.

I'm still figuring out a few things. I was recently gifted an old Standard
Horizon 155 CP155C (without the GPS) from a dock neighbor who upgraded to a
SH CPN 700i. I couldn't get a GPS signal into the CP155C and am about to
relegate it to emergency backup status. The charts display fine but they'd
have to be "manually cross referenced" to an externally-supplied GPS
position. Another first world problem...  :-)

I really like my shiny new SH VX2200 and it looks like it would
inter-operate nicely with the SH CPN 700i so I'll probably pull the trigger
on that next week. These are amazing times.

I'm kinda liking Standard Horizon in general. They don't seem driven by
marketeers. I don't mind wading through some semi-techy, almost complete,
documentation. And, they haven't taken the proprietary route.

I have to take a closer look at my current depth transducer. IIRC, it was
designed to be easily removed
from inside the boat - just like its long-broken speed paddlewheel
neighbor. That might limit my choices for a plug and play, in the water,
replacement.

Kind regards,

---Bob Moriarty
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Bob -- if you're interested, I can price that transducer for you from my
> vendor.
>
> -- Fred
>
> On Feb 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Fred,
> It's disappointing that a simple depth = x? question would be complicated
> by vendors' proprietary proclivities - especially with long established
> NMEA 0183 and 2000 standards in place.
> I'll check out the DT800 and calibrate it using the various places I've
> run aground.  :-)
> I'll send you a DSC call if the calibration effort goes awry.  :-)
> --Bob M
> Ox 33-1
> Jax, FL
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Bob — yes, Airmar makes a line of “smart” transducers that have NMEA2000
>> direct output.  For depth, you’d want the DT800; the best option for you
>> would be the one made by Airmar for Furuno, as it has an NMEA2000 connector
>> ready to plug into an NMEA2000 backbone; this transducer will run you about
>> $270.00.  The issue you’re going to run into is that you won’t be able to
>> “calibrate” the transducer (for depth offset, for instance) without other
>> equipment from the same manufacturer on the bus, as the calibration schemes
>> have not been made a direct part of the NMEA2k standard, so each
>> manufacturer handles it differently.  And you’ll need to start from zero on
>> an NMEA2000 bus.
>>
>> — Fred
>>
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 7:09 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> My original depth transducer and display have given up the ghost.
>> Is there a preferred, non-proprietary depth transducer that can output
>> NMEA 0183 or NMEA 2000 depth messages?
>>
>> Looking to buy a Standard Horizon CPN700i chartplotter,
>>
>>
>> http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts=84=DAF88A33AD0AD868B77CC24EF82D4880=3=0
>>
>> which can handle both NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000 input.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --Bob M
>>
>> BTW, I recently installed a Standard Horizon GX2200 VHF/GPS/AIS unit -
>> (my first grown-up VHF). It's great, especially with the RAM mic. (Thanks
>> for that suggestion, Dennis C. !)
>>
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Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Bob -- if you're interested, I can price that transducer for you from my vendor.

-- Fred

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Fred,
> It's disappointing that a simple depth = x? question would be complicated by 
> vendors' proprietary proclivities - especially with long established NMEA 
> 0183 and 2000 standards in place.
> I'll check out the DT800 and calibrate it using the various places I've run 
> aground.  :-)
> I'll send you a DSC call if the calibration effort goes awry.  :-)
> --Bob M
> Ox 33-1
> Jax, FL
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Bob — yes, Airmar makes a line of “smart” transducers that have NMEA2000 
>> direct output.  For depth, you’d want the DT800; the best option for you 
>> would be the one made by Airmar for Furuno, as it has an NMEA2000 connector 
>> ready to plug into an NMEA2000 backbone; this transducer will run you about 
>> $270.00.  The issue you’re going to run into is that you won’t be able to 
>> “calibrate” the transducer (for depth offset, for instance) without other 
>> equipment from the same manufacturer on the bus, as the calibration schemes 
>> have not been made a direct part of the NMEA2k standard, so each 
>> manufacturer handles it differently.  And you’ll need to start from zero on 
>> an NMEA2000 bus.
>> 
>> — Fred
>> 
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 7:09 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My original depth transducer and display have given up the ghost.
>>> Is there a preferred, non-proprietary depth transducer that can output NMEA 
>>> 0183 or NMEA 2000 depth messages?
>>> 
>>> Looking to buy a Standard Horizon CPN700i chartplotter, 
>>> 
>>> http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts=84=DAF88A33AD0AD868B77CC24EF82D4880=3=0
>>> 
>>> which can handle both NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000 input.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> --Bob M
>>> 
>>> BTW, I recently installed a Standard Horizon GX2200 VHF/GPS/AIS unit - (my 
>>> first grown-up VHF). It's great, especially with the RAM mic. (Thanks for 
>>> that suggestion, Dennis C. !)
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[bobmor99 . via CnC-List]

Thank you Fred,
It's disappointing that a simple depth = x? question would be complicated
by vendors' proprietary proclivities - especially with long established
NMEA 0183 and 2000 standards in place.
I'll check out the DT800 and calibrate it using the various places I've run
aground.  :-)
I'll send you a DSC call if the calibration effort goes awry.  :-)
--Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Bob — yes, Airmar makes a line of “smart” transducers that have NMEA2000
> direct output.  For depth, you’d want the DT800; the best option for you
> would be the one made by Airmar for Furuno, as it has an NMEA2000 connector
> ready to plug into an NMEA2000 backbone; this transducer will run you about
> $270.00.  The issue you’re going to run into is that you won’t be able to
> “calibrate” the transducer (for depth offset, for instance) without other
> equipment from the same manufacturer on the bus, as the calibration schemes
> have not been made a direct part of the NMEA2k standard, so each
> manufacturer handles it differently.  And you’ll need to start from zero on
> an NMEA2000 bus.
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 7:09 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> My original depth transducer and display have given up the ghost.
> Is there a preferred, non-proprietary depth transducer that can output
> NMEA 0183 or NMEA 2000 depth messages?
>
> Looking to buy a Standard Horizon CPN700i chartplotter,
>
>
> http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts=84=DAF88A33AD0AD868B77CC24EF82D4880=3=0
>
> which can handle both NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000 input.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --Bob M
>
> BTW, I recently installed a Standard Horizon GX2200 VHF/GPS/AIS unit - (my
> first grown-up VHF). It's great, especially with the RAM mic. (Thanks for
> that suggestion, Dennis C. !)
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Bob — yes, Airmar makes a line of “smart” transducers that have NMEA2000 direct 
output.  For depth, you’d want the DT800; the best option for you would be the 
one made by Airmar for Furuno, as it has an NMEA2000 connector ready to plug 
into an NMEA2000 backbone; this transducer will run you about $270.00.  The 
issue you’re going to run into is that you won’t be able to “calibrate” the 
transducer (for depth offset, for instance) without other equipment from the 
same manufacturer on the bus, as the calibration schemes have not been made a 
direct part of the NMEA2k standard, so each manufacturer handles it 
differently.  And you’ll need to start from zero on an NMEA2000 bus.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 16, 2016, at 7:09 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> My original depth transducer and display have given up the ghost.
> Is there a preferred, non-proprietary depth transducer that can output NMEA 
> 0183 or NMEA 2000 depth messages?
> 
> Looking to buy a Standard Horizon CPN700i chartplotter, 
> 
> http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts=84=DAF88A33AD0AD868B77CC24EF82D4880=3=0
>  
> 
> 
> which can handle both NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000 input.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> --Bob M
> 
> BTW, I recently installed a Standard Horizon GX2200 VHF/GPS/AIS unit - (my 
> first grown-up VHF). It's great, especially with the RAM mic. (Thanks for 
> that suggestion, Dennis C. !)


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Stus-List Replacement Depth Transducer

[bobmor99 . via CnC-List]

My original depth transducer and display have given up the ghost.
Is there a preferred, non-proprietary depth transducer that can output NMEA
0183 or NMEA 2000 depth messages?

Looking to buy a Standard Horizon CPN700i chartplotter,

http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts=84=DAF88A33AD0AD868B77CC24EF82D4880=3=0

which can handle both NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000 input.

Thanks in advance.
--Bob M

BTW, I recently installed a Standard Horizon GX2200 VHF/GPS/AIS unit - (my
first grown-up VHF). It's great, especially with the RAM mic. (Thanks for
that suggestion, Dennis C. !)
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