Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion
Yup. Get Outlook for Android From: CnC-List on behalf of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 6:00:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion Generally, there is a limit on the alternator (and the pump) regarding how much power you can get off the engine using a single V-belt. Once you exceed around 80-90 A (some claim that you can go as high as 120 A) on the alternator, you should start using either a dual V-belt or a serpentine belt solution. At some point the single V-belt will start to slip and this is bad for the belt (and pulleys). Just my $0.02 Marek 1994 C270 ”Legato” Ottawa, ON From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 13:16 To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion The ElectroMAXX seems very well made. The price I've seen just seems astronomical for the minimal benefits. Counterpoints? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 1:01 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I used the ElectroMAAX kit on my Yanmar 3HM35F. The pulleys are well made, but the brackets took a little fiddling with. It appears there are more than 1 3HM35Fs. I'm happy with the final solution. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C&C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:38 AM Bill via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Has anyone converted their alternator to a serpentine belt on a Yanmar? I am wondering if there are sources other than the Balmar conversion kit for the pulleys that are exclusive to the engine, like the water pump and the crankshaft. Bill Coleman C&C 39 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5b64239ad03246daf62d08d6b5fca850%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636896494084556315&sdata=3DdiwkmkEQeTNhRtBGfgs1DgfZ3w2rf2cQpYbrw2pxM%3D&reserved=0> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5b64239ad03246daf62d08d6b5fca850%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636896494084566320&sdata=UHCjvZ7UWOKcqXdE40ZkrSSGB3fcEMTHJoCeY%2FfK6so%3D&reserved=0> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion
Generally, there is a limit on the alternator (and the pump) regarding how much power you can get off the engine using a single V-belt. Once you exceed around 80-90 A (some claim that you can go as high as 120 A) on the alternator, you should start using either a dual V-belt or a serpentine belt solution. At some point the single V-belt will start to slip and this is bad for the belt (and pulleys). Just my $0.02 Marek 1994 C270 ”Legato” Ottawa, ON From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 13:16 To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion The ElectroMAXX seems very well made. The price I've seen just seems astronomical for the minimal benefits. Counterpoints? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 1:01 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I used the ElectroMAAX kit on my Yanmar 3HM35F. The pulleys are well made, but the brackets took a little fiddling with. It appears there are more than 1 3HM35Fs. I'm happy with the final solution. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C&C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:38 AM Bill via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Has anyone converted their alternator to a serpentine belt on a Yanmar? I am wondering if there are sources other than the Balmar conversion kit for the pulleys that are exclusive to the engine, like the water pump and the crankshaft. Bill Coleman C&C 39 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5b64239ad03246daf62d08d6b5fca850%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636896494084556315&sdata=3DdiwkmkEQeTNhRtBGfgs1DgfZ3w2rf2cQpYbrw2pxM%3D&reserved=0> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5b64239ad03246daf62d08d6b5fca850%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636896494084566320&sdata=UHCjvZ7UWOKcqXdE40ZkrSSGB3fcEMTHJoCeY%2FfK6so%3D&reserved=0> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion
Yes it is the reference price point of auto equipment that makes the marine conversion cost quite offensive. You could just get the alternator with a V-belt pulley... Or change the serpentine pulley to V-belt until a cost effective solution is found. Josh On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 5:06 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > That is what I am thinking. I am about to buy an alternator, and one with > a serpentine pulley, so I only would need the pulley on the crank, and > water pump. I realise Balmar, and I guess ElectroMAXX have put some time > into creating these kits for each engine, but they still seem a little > pricy. When you start looking at car pulleys, they are dirt cheap in > comparison. Maybe I can just modify a car pulley. > > And to Ken’s point, I guess I don’t really need the serpentine, but I do > want it. V belts wear down quickly, makes a mess, are not as efficient, > need replacing two or four times sooner and need more attention than the > serpentine. I guess if you are born anal like me, your life is that much > harder. > > > > > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 Erie, PA > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2019 1:16 PM > *To:* C&C List > *Cc:* Josh Muckley > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion > > > > The ElectroMAXX seems very well made. The price I've seen just seems > astronomical for the minimal benefits. > > > > Counterpoints? > > > > Josh Muckley > > S/V Sea Hawk > > 1989 C&C 37+ > > Solomons, MD > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 1:01 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > I used the ElectroMAAX kit on my Yanmar 3HM35F. The pulleys are well > made, but the brackets took a little fiddling with. It appears there are > more than 1 3HM35Fs. I'm happy with the final solution. > > > > Gary > > S/V Kaylarah > > '90 C&C 37+ > > East Greenwich, RI, USA > > ~~~_/)~~ > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:38 AM Bill via CnC-List > wrote: > > Has anyone converted their alternator to a serpentine belt on a Yanmar? I > am wondering if there are sources other than the Balmar conversion kit for > the pulleys that are exclusive to the engine, like the water pump and the > crankshaft. > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 > > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion
That is what I am thinking. I am about to buy an alternator, and one with a serpentine pulley, so I only would need the pulley on the crank, and water pump. I realise Balmar, and I guess ElectroMAXX have put some time into creating these kits for each engine, but they still seem a little pricy. When you start looking at car pulleys, they are dirt cheap in comparison. Maybe I can just modify a car pulley. And to Ken’s point, I guess I don’t really need the serpentine, but I do want it. V belts wear down quickly, makes a mess, are not as efficient, need replacing two or four times sooner and need more attention than the serpentine. I guess if you are born anal like me, your life is that much harder. Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie, PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 1:16 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion The ElectroMAXX seems very well made. The price I've seen just seems astronomical for the minimal benefits. Counterpoints? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 1:01 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List wrote: I used the ElectroMAAX kit on my Yanmar 3HM35F. The pulleys are well made, but the brackets took a little fiddling with. It appears there are more than 1 3HM35Fs. I'm happy with the final solution. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C&C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:38 AM Bill via CnC-List wrote: Has anyone converted their alternator to a serpentine belt on a Yanmar? I am wondering if there are sources other than the Balmar conversion kit for the pulleys that are exclusive to the engine, like the water pump and the crankshaft. Bill Coleman C&C 39 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion
I think the mail application is for a high output alternator, over 100 amps, one that probably should have double belts to handle the load. Apparently the serpentine belts have more traction than Vee belts so don't have to be tightened as much, so they aren't as hared on water pump and alternator bearings. We have a 100 amp alternator now and it is a bit hard on belts. If you have a stock alternator, you really don't need one of these serpentine belt kits. Ken H. On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 14:16, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The ElectroMAXX seems very well made. The price I've seen just seems > astronomical for the minimal benefits. > > Counterpoints? > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 1:01 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I used the ElectroMAAX kit on my Yanmar 3HM35F. The pulleys are well >> made, but the brackets took a little fiddling with. It appears there are >> more than 1 3HM35Fs. I'm happy with the final solution. >> >> Gary >> S/V Kaylarah >> '90 C&C 37+ >> East Greenwich, RI, USA >> ~~~_/)~~ >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:38 AM Bill via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >>> Has anyone converted their alternator to a serpentine belt on a Yanmar? >>> I am wondering if there are sources other than the Balmar conversion kit >>> for the pulleys that are exclusive to the engine, like the water pump and >>> the crankshaft. >>> >>> Bill Coleman >>> C&C 39 >>> ___ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion
The ElectroMAXX seems very well made. The price I've seen just seems astronomical for the minimal benefits. Counterpoints? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 1:01 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I used the ElectroMAAX kit on my Yanmar 3HM35F. The pulleys are well > made, but the brackets took a little fiddling with. It appears there are > more than 1 3HM35Fs. I'm happy with the final solution. > > Gary > S/V Kaylarah > '90 C&C 37+ > East Greenwich, RI, USA > ~~~_/)~~ > > > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:38 AM Bill via CnC-List > wrote: > >> Has anyone converted their alternator to a serpentine belt on a Yanmar? I >> am wondering if there are sources other than the Balmar conversion kit for >> the pulleys that are exclusive to the engine, like the water pump and the >> crankshaft. >> >> Bill Coleman >> C&C 39 >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion
I used the ElectroMAAX kit on my Yanmar 3HM35F. The pulleys are well made, but the brackets took a little fiddling with. It appears there are more than 1 3HM35Fs. I'm happy with the final solution. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C&C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:38 AM Bill via CnC-List wrote: > Has anyone converted their alternator to a serpentine belt on a Yanmar? I > am wondering if there are sources other than the Balmar conversion kit for > the pulleys that are exclusive to the engine, like the water pump and the > crankshaft. > > Bill Coleman > C&C 39 > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Serpentine conversion
I haven't made the conversion yet (thinking about it) but this is a source I was looking at: https://www.electromaax.com/products/serpentine-pulley-upgrades/ Ken H. On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 10:38, Bill via CnC-List wrote: > Has anyone converted their alternator to a serpentine belt on a Yanmar? I > am wondering if there are sources other than the Balmar conversion kit for > the pulleys that are exclusive to the engine, like the water pump and the > crankshaft. > > Bill Coleman > C&C 39 > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Serpentine conversion
Has anyone converted their alternator to a serpentine belt on a Yanmar? I am wondering if there are sources other than the Balmar conversion kit for the pulleys that are exclusive to the engine, like the water pump and the crankshaft.Bill ColemanC&C 39___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
