Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List]

Think about the little FRS radios (LINK1 
<https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Portable-FRS-Two-Way-Radios/zgbs/electronics/912322>
 ) with headsets? (LINK2 
<https://www.google.com/search?ei=iMN1W_GULcSl_Qbe-ZmADg=frs+radios+with+headsets=FRS+radios+with+headsets_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i22i30k1.45548.54917.0.56232.28.21.1.0.0.0.722.6841.0j10j3j5-6j1.20.0..2..0...1.1.64.psy-ab..7.21.6857...0j0i67k1j0i13k1.0.YyLUzAzILQ4>
 ).

 

Neil Andersen

1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dan via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

 

Thanks guys,

 

I still haven't decided if it's any use to attempt the dual use the VHF radios 
as "marriage savers" type walkie talkies. Off Shore on the lowest power setting 
on un-monitored channels like 68 we're probably fine, however if 
anchoring/mooring we'll be near enough to shore stations that we might get 
picked up. Transmissions like "reverse, and a little throttle" is probably 
abusing the VHF airspace and interfering with other activity.

 

I think bluetooth earpieces make more sense- also are smaller and cheaper.

 

Dan

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Dan via CnC-List]

Thanks guys,

I still haven't decided if it's any use to attempt the dual use the VHF
radios as "marriage savers" type walkie talkies. Off Shore on the lowest
power setting on un-monitored channels like 68 we're probably fine, however
if anchoring/mooring we'll be near enough to shore stations that we might
get picked up. Transmissions like "reverse, and a little throttle" is
probably abusing the VHF airspace and interfering with other activity.

I think bluetooth earpieces make more sense- also are smaller and cheaper.

Dan
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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

And let me know if you’d like me to quote decent pricing on either…

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 16, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Highly recommend the Standard Horizon HX870 or HX890 handhelds.  DSC and MOB 
> features make it the go to handheld for me.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:14 AM Dan via CnC-List  > wrote:
>  however my girlfriend and I are considering purchasing handheld VHF 
> transceivers to double as walkie talkies for lowering the anchor, etc. 
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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

I second the HX890. I have 2. One with my mmsi.


Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 Port Orchard YC, WA.


 Original message From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
 Date: 8/16/18  05:41  (GMT-08:00) To: CnClist 
 Cc: "Dennis C."  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB 
Highly recommend the Standard Horizon HX870 or HX890 handhelds.  DSC and MOB 
features make it the go to handheld for me.
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:14 AM Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
 however my girlfriend and I are considering purchasing handheld VHF 
transceivers to double as walkie talkies for lowering the anchor, etc. 

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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Chad,

Based on what I read (Maritime Radio Course by Canadian Power Squadron),  you 
do not need a licence (or the associated call sign) for the VHF radio.

This is based on the exemption (Section 15.2 of Radiocommunications Act), which 
specifically exempts the “ships and vessels”. This exemption applies, if the 
“vessel is operated within Canadian waters, outside of Canadian or any other 
country’s waters, or within waters of other countries with which Canada has the 
reciprocal agreement”. It happens that Canada and the USA have the reciprocal 
agreement.

You _do need_ a Restricted Operator’s Certificate, though, Supposedly, that 
part is usually enforced, especially if you are in the waters, where sailing 
across the boarder is likely.

There is a caveat there, though. When I tried to use the references included in 
the text book, I could not find the related text in the official version of the 
Radiocommunication Act. The book was published in 2011, I took the course in 
2016. I assumed that what they teach is correct. But I freely admit that my 
information is no longer valid.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 07:38
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chad Osmond 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

In Canada, if you wish to legally use your VHF in the USA and other countries 
you need to obtain a radio license for the radio, which IC will then grant you 
a call sign, the once you have a radio license in Canada you are supposed to 
use this call sign in all VHF transmissions.


http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf08764.html<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ic.gc.ca%2Feic%2Fsite%2Fsmt-gst.nsf%2Feng%2Fsf08764.html=02%7C01%7C%7Cf156e207b3684a4bab5b08d6036ce6f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636700163596912579=Lk0yWFDbIdcJqzTVFTOB%2BSNh3b8oXw93xwYJZ9a58cI%3D=0>

If your just using it in Canadian waters no license is required and you can 
just use the boat name as others had commented on.
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[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Dan,

Pictures have never been excluded they just need to be reduced less than
the max email package size.  That picture is 26kb.  The problem is that if
people don't trim the picture out of their replies then it continues to be
26kb of extra data on the mail server.

It is useful to have inline pictures but Google and most internet browsers
make it pretty easy to copy the link to a picture without actually copying
the picture.  Some email clients will auto thumbnail the link too so it
almost appears as an inline picture.

FYE:
https://goo.gl/images/LpbFHb

https://goo.gl/images/zNias5

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 3:11 PM Dan via CnC-List 
wrote:

> First - how did you get a picture to show up in this mailing list!?! cool
>
> Second - Yes, I have one, but it looks like something salvaged from a old
> vietnam tomahawk lol.
>
> I hear it clicking when I switch freqencies.
>
> Dan
>
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[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Highly recommend the Standard Horizon HX870 or HX890 handhelds.  DSC and
MOB features make it the go to handheld for me.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:14 AM Dan via CnC-List 
wrote:

>  however my girlfriend and I are considering purchasing handheld VHF
> transceivers to double as walkie talkies for lowering the anchor, etc.
>
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[Dan via CnC-List]

ok, thanks.
This license is good for both VHF and MF/HF(SSB)?
I'm upgrading my VHF to a DSC model soon and will also be getting an MSI#.

I know the rules for using VHF (no profanity and to follow designated
protocol, etc.), however my girlfriend and I are considering purchasing
handheld VHF transceivers to double as walkie talkies for lowering the
anchor, etc. on unassigned and unmonitored public channels at low
frequency. Is this something people do? - I've heard transmissions on some
of these unmonitored channels that do not follow any protocol.

Sorry for all the questions...

Dan

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Chad Osmond via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> In Canada, if you wish to legally use your VHF in the USA and other
> countries you need to obtain a radio license for the radio, which IC will
> then grant you a call sign, the once you have a radio license in Canada you
> are supposed to use this call sign in all VHF transmissions.
>
>
> http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf08764.html
>
> If your just using it in Canadian waters no license is required and you
> can just use the boat name as others had commented on.
>
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[Chad Osmond via CnC-List]

In Canada, if you wish to legally use your VHF in the USA and other
countries you need to obtain a radio license for the radio, which IC will
then grant you a call sign, the once you have a radio license in Canada you
are supposed to use this call sign in all VHF transmissions.


http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf08764.html

If your just using it in Canadian waters no license is required and you can
just use the boat name as others had commented on.
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[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

The MMSI is more than that. It is assigned to your radio and it is included in 
any DSC call you make, including any emergency call a DSC radio can make 
automatically ( that call would include your position).

Marek

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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Dan via CnC-List 

Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:19:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan
Subject: Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

Yes I can get an MMSI number for free from the Canadian government but it just 
gives me a number I can use/say over the air... I guess in an emergency they 
can use it to look up my vessel data, etc. and save a lot of questions in a 
crisis - they will probably ask those questions regardless.

Dan


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[Dan Sargeant via CnC-List]

The Canadian Government dispensed with call signs for private boats some time 
ago.  MMSI is not a call sign. It is an identifier for the government rescue 
authorities in the event you use the auto DSC feature on your  VHF in an 
emergency when you cannot make a mayday call yourself. 
In normal communications boat-to-boat or to coast guard use your boat name to 
id yourself.
Dan
C 32
Lunenburg

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2018, at 15:07, Andrew Burton  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you can use just your boat name, but can't you get a radio call sign 
> from the Canadian equivalent of the FCC? 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2018, at 13:59, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
>> 
>> So I re-connected the SSB to the backstay and switched it on. I was able to 
>> pick up a guy talking in Norway :)
>> I have an old analogue pre-DSC radio which pre-dates MMSI numbers so no 
>> station ID has been programmed in or anything like that so I can probably 
>> just use the HF function for calling (I have VHF/MF/HF certification within 
>> can/us) and I can receive marine weather reports off-shore.
>> 
>> What do you use for a station ID/callsign if you don't have an MMSI number? 
>> - in Canada for VHF we just use our Boat's name unless you have an MMSI or 
>> you're a licensed vessel (commercial). Can I just use my vessel name?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Dan,
>>>  
>>> Since you are in Halifax, I would keep it. Then I would make it to work and 
>>> learn how to operate it. Beyond around 10 Nm it would be your only way of 
>>> communicating with the Coast Guard (unless you carry a satellite 
>>> communication device (Iridium is just one of the many options; for 
>>> satellite communications I would look closely at the Delorme inReach, now 
>>> owned by Garmin)).
>>>  
>>> In-shore it would be, probably, of very limited practical use.
>>>  
>>> Marek
>>> Ottawa, ON
>>>  
>>> From: Dan via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 11:00
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: Dan
>>> Subject: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB
>>>  
>>> I have an SSB radio system in my boat that still works. The antenna appears 
>>> to be built right into my backstay, and is no longer wired up, however the 
>>> wire is just coiled up on the transom and could be re-connected. Some local 
>>> sailors have told me to just simply get rid of it, however it doubles as an 
>>> HF radio (channel 2182, etc.) which could be handy in an ocean crossing? (I 
>>> also have VHF and may purchase an Eridium or Sat Phone eventually)
>>>  
>>> How many of you guys still hang on to the old SSB? Should I lose it 
>>> altogether and make space in my nav station for something more up to date 
>>> and less power consuming?
>>>  
>>> Dan
>>> Breakaweigh
>>> C
>>> Halifax, NS
>>> 
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[Dan via CnC-List]

First - how did you get a picture to show up in this mailing list!?! cool

Second - Yes, I have one, but it looks like something salvaged from a old
vietnam tomahawk lol.

I hear it clicking when I switch freqencies.

Dan
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[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

You should have an antenna tuner near the backstay.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2018, at 2:34 PM, Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Be sure to get the SWR checked on the rig/antenna.  If the SWR is too high, 
> you can really fry the radio.
> 
> Neil
> 1982 C 32 FoxFire
> Rock Hall, MD
> W3NEA (amateur)
> RROP
> 
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>  
> From: 30471433000n behalf of 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:23 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Andrew Burton
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB
>  
> Call sign is different from the MMSI. Often for boats it's something like 
> WTF1234. 
> Andy 
> 
> Andrew Burton 
> 61 W Narragansett 
> Newport, RI 
> USA 02840 
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ 
> +401 965-5260 
> 
> > On Aug 15, 2018, at 14:19, Dan via CnC-List  wrote: 
> > 
> > Yes I can get an MMSI number for free from the Canadian government but it 
> > just gives me a number I can use/say over the air... I guess in an 
> > emergency they can use it to look up my vessel data, etc. and save a lot of 
> > questions in a crisis - they will probably ask those questions regardless. 
> > 
> > Dan 
> > 
> > 
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[Dan via CnC-List]

I did some digging and found the answer - In Canada we no longer need a
call-sign unless it's a licensed (commercial) vessel... WILD... hovever I
know that when I leave North America things are different so I'll need to
get a license if I cross oceans:


Industry Canada will no longer be issuing radio licences for ships or
vessels which meet the exemption criteria; therefore a call sign will no
longer be assigned to these stations.

If I was previously issued a call sign, but now meet the exemption
criteria, can I continue to use my old call sign?

In accordance with the technical requirements for the operation of mobile
stations in the maritime service as described in RBR-2, an exempted ship
station must identify by using the name of the ship. The call sign
previously issued to a ship station, now exempt from the requirement to
hold a radio licence, is no longer valid and should not be used as a means
of identification.

If call signs are not being issued, what should I use to identify myself
when I use the radio on board my vessel?

In accordance with the technical requirements for the operation of mobile
stations in the maritime service as described in RBR-2, an exempted ship
station must identify by using the name of the ship. If desired, the
operator may include additional words or characters, along with the name of
the ship, for identification purposes.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> In the US all that's required is a valid Ship Station license and a
> lifetime Restricted Radiotelephone Operator's permit. No testing required!
> The Ship Station license is good for 10 years and is non-transferable.  If
> you want to use the ham bands in US or Canada you have to pass an exam.
> More info is available on the ARRL website.  You have to see if your radio
> will operate on the ham bands.   Jerry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 15, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > Call sign is different from the MMSI. Often for boats it's something
> like WTF1234.
> > Andy
> >
> > Andrew Burton
> > 61 W Narragansett
> > Newport, RI
> > USA02840
> >
> > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> > +401 965-5260
> >
> >> On Aug 15, 2018, at 14:19, Dan via CnC-List 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes I can get an MMSI number for free from the Canadian government but
> it just gives me a number I can use/say over the air... I guess in an
> emergency they can use it to look up my vessel data, etc. and save a lot of
> questions in a crisis - they will probably ask those questions regardless.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
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[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

In the US all that's required is a valid Ship Station license and a lifetime 
Restricted Radiotelephone Operator's permit. No testing required! The Ship 
Station license is good for 10 years and is non-transferable.  If you want to 
use the ham bands in US or Canada you have to pass an exam.  More info is 
available on the ARRL website.  You have to see if your radio will operate on 
the ham bands.   Jerry 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Call sign is different from the MMSI. Often for boats it's something like 
> WTF1234.
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2018, at 14:19, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes I can get an MMSI number for free from the Canadian government but it 
>> just gives me a number I can use/say over the air... I guess in an emergency 
>> they can use it to look up my vessel data, etc. and save a lot of questions 
>> in a crisis - they will probably ask those questions regardless.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
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[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Be sure to get the SWR checked on the rig/antenna.  If the SWR is too high, you 
can really fry the radio.

Neil
1982 C 32 FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD
W3NEA (amateur)
RROP

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


From: 30471433000n behalf of
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 2:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Burton
Subject: Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

Call sign is different from the MMSI. Often for boats it's something like 
WTF1234.
Andy

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA 02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Aug 15, 2018, at 14:19, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
>
> Yes I can get an MMSI number for free from the Canadian government but it 
> just gives me a number I can use/say over the air... I guess in an emergency 
> they can use it to look up my vessel data, etc. and save a lot of questions 
> in a crisis - they will probably ask those questions regardless.
>
> Dan
>
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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

In the US you need a restricted radiotelephone operators license (~$70usd) one 
time fee and a radiotelephone station license renewed every 10 years.

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


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Subject: Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

Call sign is different from the MMSI. Often for boats it's something like 
WTF1234.
Andy

Andrew Burton
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> On Aug 15, 2018, at 14:19, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
>
> Yes I can get an MMSI number for free from the Canadian government but it 
> just gives me a number I can use/say over the air... I guess in an emergency 
> they can use it to look up my vessel data, etc. and save a lot of questions 
> in a crisis - they will probably ask those questions regardless.
>
> Dan
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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Call sign is different from the MMSI. Often for boats it's something like 
WTF1234.
Andy

Andrew Burton
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> On Aug 15, 2018, at 14:19, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Yes I can get an MMSI number for free from the Canadian government but it 
> just gives me a number I can use/say over the air... I guess in an emergency 
> they can use it to look up my vessel data, etc. and save a lot of questions 
> in a crisis - they will probably ask those questions regardless.
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Dan via CnC-List]

Yes I can get an MMSI number for free from the Canadian government but it
just gives me a number I can use/say over the air... I guess in an
emergency they can use it to look up my vessel data, etc. and save a lot of
questions in a crisis - they will probably ask those questions regardless.

Dan
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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Yes, you can use just your boat name, but can't you get a radio call sign from 
the Canadian equivalent of the FCC?
Andy

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
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> On Aug 15, 2018, at 13:59, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> So I re-connected the SSB to the backstay and switched it on. I was able to 
> pick up a guy talking in Norway :)
> I have an old analogue pre-DSC radio which pre-dates MMSI numbers so no 
> station ID has been programmed in or anything like that so I can probably 
> just use the HF function for calling (I have VHF/MF/HF certification within 
> can/us) and I can receive marine weather reports off-shore.
> 
> What do you use for a station ID/callsign if you don't have an MMSI number? - 
> in Canada for VHF we just use our Boat's name unless you have an MMSI or 
> you're a licensed vessel (commercial). Can I just use my vessel name?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Dan,
>>  
>> Since you are in Halifax, I would keep it. Then I would make it to work and 
>> learn how to operate it. Beyond around 10 Nm it would be your only way of 
>> communicating with the Coast Guard (unless you carry a satellite 
>> communication device (Iridium is just one of the many options; for satellite 
>> communications I would look closely at the Delorme inReach, now owned by 
>> Garmin)).
>>  
>> In-shore it would be, probably, of very limited practical use.
>>  
>> Marek
>> Ottawa, ON
>>  
>> From: Dan via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 11:00
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Dan
>> Subject: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB
>>  
>> I have an SSB radio system in my boat that still works. The antenna appears 
>> to be built right into my backstay, and is no longer wired up, however the 
>> wire is just coiled up on the transom and could be re-connected. Some local 
>> sailors have told me to just simply get rid of it, however it doubles as an 
>> HF radio (channel 2182, etc.) which could be handy in an ocean crossing? (I 
>> also have VHF and may purchase an Eridium or Sat Phone eventually)
>>  
>> How many of you guys still hang on to the old SSB? Should I lose it 
>> altogether and make space in my nav station for something more up to date 
>> and less power consuming?
>>  
>> Dan
>> Breakaweigh
>> C
>> Halifax, NS
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Dan via CnC-List]

So I re-connected the SSB to the backstay and switched it on. I was able to
pick up a guy talking in Norway :)
I have an old analogue pre-DSC radio which pre-dates MMSI numbers so no
station ID has been programmed in or anything like that so I can probably
just use the HF function for calling (I have VHF/MF/HF certification within
can/us) and I can receive marine weather reports off-shore.

What do you use for a station ID/callsign if you don't have an MMSI number?
- in Canada for VHF we just use our Boat's name unless you have an MMSI or
you're a licensed vessel (commercial). Can I just use my vessel name?

Dan



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dan,
>
> Since you are in Halifax, I would keep it. Then I would make it to work
> and learn how to operate it. Beyond around 10 Nm it would be your only way
> of communicating with the Coast Guard (unless you carry a satellite
> communication device (Iridium is just one of the many options; for
> satellite communications I would look closely at the Delorme inReach, now
> owned by Garmin)).
>
> In-shore it would be, probably, of very limited practical use.
>
> Marek
> Ottawa, ON
>
> *From:* Dan via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, August 13, 2018 11:00
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Dan
> *Subject:* Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB
>
> I have an SSB radio system in my boat that still works. The antenna
> appears to be built right into my backstay, and is no longer wired up,
> however the wire is just coiled up on the transom and could be
> re-connected. Some local sailors have told me to just simply get rid of it,
> however it doubles as an HF radio (channel 2182, etc.) which could be handy
> in an ocean crossing? (I also have VHF and may purchase an Eridium or Sat
> Phone eventually)
>
> How many of you guys still hang on to the old SSB? Should I lose it
> altogether and make space in my nav station for something more up to date
> and less power consuming?
>
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C
> Halifax, NS
>
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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Dan,

Since you are in Halifax, I would keep it. Then I would make it to work and 
learn how to operate it. Beyond around 10 Nm it would be your only way of 
communicating with the Coast Guard (unless you carry a satellite communication 
device (Iridium is just one of the many options; for satellite communications I 
would look closely at the Delorme inReach, now owned by Garmin)).

In-shore it would be, probably, of very limited practical use.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: Dan via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 11:00
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan
Subject: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

I have an SSB radio system in my boat that still works. The antenna appears to 
be built right into my backstay, and is no longer wired up, however the wire is 
just coiled up on the transom and could be re-connected. Some local sailors 
have told me to just simply get rid of it, however it doubles as an HF radio 
(channel 2182, etc.) which could be handy in an ocean crossing? (I also have 
VHF and may purchase an Eridium or Sat Phone eventually)

How many of you guys still hang on to the old SSB? Should I lose it altogether 
and make space in my nav station for something more up to date and less power 
consuming?

Dan
Breakaweigh
C
Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

Marine SSB will connect you to many maritime nets for weather and safety 
reports as well as to the cost guard.  It will allow you to send email and 
position reports as well as receive weather gribs.  Most marine ssb radios will 
open to the ham bands and connect you to millions of hams and to marine 
maritime networks.  You will have to get a license for that.  Marine ssb will 
work anywhere in the world and is not dependent on satellites.  It is also for 
the most part free.  SSB also has DSC if new enough. 

Iridium is probably more reliable for communication with an individual but will 
not be heard by other boaters.  It is also still relatively expensive.  If your 
concern is calling home Iridium or similar service is far superior to SSB.  

You can communicate with the 
Global Maritime Distress and Safety System (GMDSS) to provide the communication 
support needed to implement the global search and rescue from either but your 
best bet here is a EPIRB.  

I have an Amateur SSB radio on my boat.  It consumes about 200 Watts (about 20 
amps) when transmitting.  Most marine ssb put out about 150 Watts but consume 
about 300 Watts (around 30 amps) when transmitting. Satellite phones use much 
less power usually under 5 Watts.  Many have their own rechargeable batteries.  

I guess the best way to look at it is comparing a modern VHF radio to a cell 
phone for near shore communication.  

Jerry 
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> On Aug 13, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> I have an SSB radio system in my boat that still works. The antenna appears 
> to be built right into my backstay, and is no longer wired up, however the 
> wire is just coiled up on the transom and could be re-connected. Some local 
> sailors have told me to just simply get rid of it, however it doubles as an 
> HF radio (channel 2182, etc.) which could be handy in an ocean crossing? (I 
> also have VHF and may purchase an Eridium or Sat Phone eventually)
> 
> How many of you guys still hang on to the old SSB? Should I lose it 
> altogether and make space in my nav station for something more up to date and 
> less power consuming?
> 
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C
> Halifax, NS
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Re: Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

If you're planning on crossing oceans, then yes, hang on to it. As you
learn to use it you will find many cruisers on the SSB

Andy

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Dan via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I have an SSB radio system in my boat that still works. The antenna
> appears to be built right into my backstay, and is no longer wired up,
> however the wire is just coiled up on the transom and could be
> re-connected. Some local sailors have told me to just simply get rid of it,
> however it doubles as an HF radio (channel 2182, etc.) which could be handy
> in an ocean crossing? (I also have VHF and may purchase an Eridium or Sat
> Phone eventually)
>
> How many of you guys still hang on to the old SSB? Should I lose it
> altogether and make space in my nav station for something more up to date
> and less power consuming?
>
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C
> Halifax, NS
>
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Stus-List Should I ditch the SSB

[Dan via CnC-List]

I have an SSB radio system in my boat that still works. The antenna appears
to be built right into my backstay, and is no longer wired up, however the
wire is just coiled up on the transom and could be re-connected. Some local
sailors have told me to just simply get rid of it, however it doubles as an
HF radio (channel 2182, etc.) which could be handy in an ocean crossing? (I
also have VHF and may purchase an Eridium or Sat Phone eventually)

How many of you guys still hang on to the old SSB? Should I lose it
altogether and make space in my nav station for something more up to date
and less power consuming?

Dan
Breakaweigh
C
Halifax, NS
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