Re: Stus-List Traveler components
âAs an alternative, I replaced my traveler with Harken a few seasons ago.The track has a "T" slot on the bottom so the bolts slide into any position and use the existing holes from the original setup.High quality, possibly a bit more expensive than Garhauer, adjusts under load, a great improvement over the original equipment. sam :-)CC 26 LiquoriceGhost Lake Alberta From: kirk sneddon via CnC-ListSent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:30 PMTo: 'Paul Fountain'; cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: kirk sneddonSubject: Re: Stus-List Traveler componentsVery happy with the quality and service from Garhauer. I also worked with Guido. I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy with no new holes to drill. The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the increased mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest sum.Kirk SneddonCC 29 MK IIFlying CloudFrom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Fountain via CnC-ListSent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AMTo: Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List Traveler componentsHave a garhauer traveller ... Works great!Paul. :) On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs.Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are supposedly really good.MarekFrom: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PMTo: Burt Stratton ; CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler componentsBurt,You should have several options. You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine. They may be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price.I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car? How much room is between the sheaves? Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners? That would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system.Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car. More like a Merriman or a Schaefer.Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LAOn Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Canât find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car?1974 33 ¾ tonnerPortsmouth, RI bstrat...@falconnect.com___This List is provided by the CC Photo AlbumEmail address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___This List is provided by the CC Photo AlbumEmail address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___This List is provided by the CC Photo AlbumEmail address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go
Re: Stus-List Traveler components- now boom vang replacement
That reminds me. I replaced the spring type vang that was on my 34/36 when I bought it with a Garhauer rigid vang (much much better) and so I have the old one in my shed. Does anyone want it? Dave On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I bought a rigid vang from them and was very pleased. Jerry CC27V JJ. -Original Message- From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: 'Paul Fountain' p...@seasource.ca; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Sep 15, 2014 9:30 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer. I also worked with Guido. I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy with no new holes to drill. The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the increased mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest sum. Kirk Sneddon CC 29 MK II Flying Cloud From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Fountain via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM To: Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great! Paul. :) On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs. Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are supposedly really good. Marek From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM To: Burt Stratton ; CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Burt, You should have several options. You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine. They may be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price. I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car? How much room is between the sheaves? Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners? That would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system. Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car. More like a Merriman or a Schaefer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 ¾ tonner Portsmouth, RI bstrat...@falconnect.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc
Re: Stus-List Traveler components
I really have no issues with my traveler except the attachment point for the mainsheet block. It is a 4:1 with dual end sheaves. I lubricated the captive track rollers and sheaves when I had it apart. It adjusts easily under a load. The adjusting line is continuous. I think the correct size stainless eye bolt will fill the bill and keep my hard earned $$ in my pocket to be used for more pressing things like a new AC electrical system and an isolated starting battery, new house bank batteries and a 2-bank charger. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Sam Salter via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:04 AM To: CnC Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components As an alternative, I replaced my traveler with Harken a few seasons ago. The track has a T slot on the bottom so the bolts slide into any position and use the existing holes from the original setup. High quality, possibly a bit more expensive than Garhauer, adjusts under load, a great improvement over the original equipment. sam :-) CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:30 PM To: 'Paul Fountain'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: kirk sneddon Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer. I also worked with Guido. I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy with no new holes to drill. The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the increased mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest sum. Kirk Sneddon CC 29 MK II Flying Cloud From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Fountain via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM To: Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great! Paul. :) On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs. Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are supposedly really good. Marek From: Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM To: Burt Stratton mailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com ; CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Burt, You should have several options. You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine. They may be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price. I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car? How much room is between the sheaves? Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners? That would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system. Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car. More like a Merriman or a Schaefer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 ¾ tonner Portsmouth, RI bstrat...@falconnect.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page
Re: Stus-List Traveler components
Burt, If you replace the attachment fitting, consider one with a shoulder. A simple eye bolt may not be able to withstand as much side load as a shouldered eye bolt or eve nut. From what you've described, there is some clearance on the underside of the car. Perhaps an eye nut bolted from underneath may work. Look at this item: http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=36382engine=adwords!6456keyword=product_adgclid=CLz8pKyG5sACFSgV7AodOBIAxQ It comes in 1/4 (400 lbs SWL), 5/16 (800 lbs SWL), 3/8 inch (1320 lbs SWL). I have one of these and its eye bolt equivalent in 1/2 inch installed in Touche' masthead for attaching spinnaker halyard blocks. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I really have no issues with my traveler except the attachment point for the mainsheet block. It is a 4:1 with dual end sheaves. I lubricated the captive track rollers and sheaves when I had it apart. It adjusts easily under a load. The adjusting line is continuous. I think the correct size stainless eye bolt will fill the bill and keep my hard earned $$ in my pocket to be used for more pressing things like a new AC electrical system and an isolated starting battery, new house bank batteries and a 2-bank charger. *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Salter via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:04 AM *To:* CnC *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Traveler components As an alternative, I replaced my traveler with Harken a few seasons ago. The track has a T slot on the bottom so the bolts slide into any position and use the existing holes from the original setup. High quality, possibly a bit more expensive than Garhauer, adjusts under load, a great improvement over the original equipment. sam :-) CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta *From: *kirk sneddon via CnC-List *Sent: *Monday, September 15, 2014 7:30 PM *To: *'Paul Fountain'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Reply To: *kirk sneddon *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Traveler components Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer. I also worked with Guido. I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy with no new holes to drill. The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the increased mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest sum. Kirk Sneddon CC 29 MK II Flying Cloud *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Fountain via CnC-List *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM *To:* Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Traveler components Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great! Paul. :) On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs. Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are supposedly really good. Marek *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM *To:* Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com ; CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Traveler components Burt, You should have several options. You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine. They may be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price. I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car? How much room is between the sheaves? Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners? That would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system. Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car. More like a Merriman or a Schaefer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track
Re: Stus-List Traveler components- now boom vang replacement
David, I'm guessing the original is a Hall Spars vang. They still sell the same one! Just curious - why is the Garhauer better? Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:11 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: That reminds me. I replaced the spring type vang that was on my 34/36 when I bought it with a Garhauer rigid vang (much much better) and so I have the old one in my shed. Does anyone want it? Dave On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I bought a rigid vang from them and was very pleased. Jerry CC27V JJ. -Original Message- From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: 'Paul Fountain' p...@seasource.ca; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Sep 15, 2014 9:30 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer. I also worked with Guido. I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy with no new holes to drill. The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the increased mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest sum. Kirk Sneddon CC 29 MK II Flying Cloud *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com?] *On Behalf Of *Paul Fountain via CnC-List *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM *To:* Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Traveler components Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great! Paul. :) On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs. Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are supposedly really good. Marek *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM *To:* Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com ; CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Traveler components Burt, You should have several options. You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine. They may be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price. I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car? How much room is between the sheaves? Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners? That would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system. Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car. More like a Merriman or a Schaefer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 ¾ tonner Portsmouth, RI bstrat...@falconnect.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Traveler components- now boom vang replacement
I don’t know if they are “better”, but they are very reasonably priced and have very good products. not to mention that since they are a small shop, you can talk to them and get semi-custom solutions at the same price as what is in their catalogue. On top of that it seems that they do sail themselves; or at least know what they are talking about. Btw. some of the high-end stuff (some of the very lightweight blocks, as an example) is probably much better somewhere else. Garhauer stuff is very good, but it is not bleeding edge. A disclaimer: I have no involvement with them, but I have bought a number of blocks from them (lately, a great 3:1/6:1 mainsheet fiddle block arrangement). just my $0.02 (CAD) Marek From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:43 AM To: David Knecht ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components- now boom vang replacement David, I'm guessing the original is a Hall Spars vang. They still sell the same one! Just curious - why is the Garhauer better? Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:11 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: That reminds me. I replaced the spring type vang that was on my 34/36 when I bought it with a Garhauer rigid vang (much much better) and so I have the old one in my shed. Does anyone want it? Dave On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I bought a rigid vang from them and was very pleased. Jerry CC27V JJ. -Original Message- From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: 'Paul Fountain' p...@seasource.ca; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Sep 15, 2014 9:30 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer. I also worked with Guido. I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy with no new holes to drill. The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the increased mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest sum. Kirk Sneddon CC 29 MK II Flying Cloud From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com?] On Behalf Of Paul Fountain via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM To: Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great! Paul. :) On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs. Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are supposedly really good. Marek From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM To: Burt Stratton ; CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Burt, You should have several options. You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine. They may be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price. I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car? How much room is between the sheaves? Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners? That would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system. Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car. More like a Merriman or a Schaefer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 ¾ tonner Portsmouth, RI bstrat
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I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs. Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are supposedly really good. Marek From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM To: Burt Stratton ; CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Burt, You should have several options. You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine. They may be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price. I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car? How much room is between the sheaves? Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners? That would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system. Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car. More like a Merriman or a Schaefer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 ¾ tonner Portsmouth, RI bstrat...@falconnect.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great! Paul. :) On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs. Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are supposedly really good. Marek From: Dennis C. via CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM To: Burt Strattonmailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com ; CnClistmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Burt, You should have several options. You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine. They may be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price. I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car? How much room is between the sheaves? Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners? That would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system. Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car. More like a Merriman or a Schaefer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can't find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 (3/4) tonner Portsmouth, RI bstrat...@falconnect.commailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Burt, Take a picture of it and email it to Harken, or if the boat show is today, walk over to their booth. They had parts for my 1983 traveler. A Garhaurer traveler and car might be cheaper than a Harken repair. Joel On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 ¾ tonner Portsmouth, RI bstrat...@falconnect.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer. I also worked with Guido. I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy with no new holes to drill. The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the increased mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest sum. Kirk Sneddon CC 29 MK II Flying Cloud From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul Fountain via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM To: Marek Dziedzic; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great! Paul. :) On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs. Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars are supposedly really good. Marek From: Dennis C. via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM To: Burt Stratton mailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com ; CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components Burt, You should have several options. You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine. They may be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price. I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car? How much room is between the sheaves? Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners? That would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system. Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car. More like a Merriman or a Schaefer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Cant find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 ¾ tonner Portsmouth, RI bstrat...@falconnect.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Cant find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 ¾ tonner Portsmouth, RI mailto:bstrat...@falconnect.com bstrat...@falconnect.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Burt, You should have several options. You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine. They may be able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price. I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car? How much room is between the sheaves? Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners? That would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system. Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car. More like a Merriman or a Schaefer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can’t find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 ¾ tonner Portsmouth, RI bstrat...@falconnect.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Try doing a google search on Fico traveller. You may be able to find a picture of what you have. I can't picture what you have from your description, but a lot of CCs were equipped with Fico travellers, including mine. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII - Original Message - From: Burt Stratton via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 9:08 PM Subject: Stus-List Traveler components Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on Saturday. Front rolled through Saturday night and tested my anchor and ground tackle at the anchorage near Ida Lewis Yacht club. All worked fine, thank you. Cozy first ever evening on the boat with the admiral. Very enjoyable considering the stark accommodations. Learned a few things about life aboard the new to us 33 footer. Only real issue was the traveler broke over-night. The broken component is a stainless steel eye bolt in the center of the car that is used to attach the mainsheet block. It goes through the car and is secured by a nut on the bottom. I am not sure this is original design or hardware. Can't find a traveler car on the interwebs that looks anything like mine. I assumed it was Harken as everything else on the boat is. It is a very simple 4:1 arrangement with 8 captive rollers that ride on the track. The hole that the eyebolt goes through looks like it was threaded once. I ended up using a 5/16 stainless eye bolt that was a close enough fit but it is definitely a temporary solution. Does anyone have a source that might have the correct components or am I looking at a new traveler track, ends, blocks and car? 1974 33 ¾ tonner Portsmouth, RI bstrat...@falconnect.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
