Re: Stus-List portable generator on sale at harbor freight

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

You can find the general generator at northerntool.com. bought one 
myself.JimSEA YA!C 38 LF


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Generac makes something
  similar that is the same or better quality than the Honda
  and Yamaha. The best thing about Generac, is they are a
  major GENERATOR company. They stand behind the product.
  The Harborfreight one looks like a knock-off of the
  Generac. Shop around for this model and you may find it
  even cheaper.



http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Gener.../p58409.html



Bill Bina





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Re: Stus-List portable generator on sale at harbor freight

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Northern tool has a  few generators. The general 2000 cost me $549.00 after 
sale price and coupons. Was running along side the honda. Both were equal with 
loadsGood buyJimSEA YA!C & C 38 LF


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Generac makes something
  similar that is the same or better quality than the Honda
  and Yamaha. The best thing about Generac, is they are a
  major GENERATOR company. They stand behind the product.
  The Harborfreight one looks like a knock-off of the
  Generac. Shop around for this model and you may find it
  even cheaper.



http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Gener.../p58409.html



Bill Bina





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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

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I got a 50 watt solar panel and a charge controller for under $200 total that 
do a fine job of keeping my batteries up while on a mooring.

 

Joe Della Barba

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Buy 2 extra batteries, take them home, charge them, swap them out.  Repeat.  
Half the price of the generator.

Dennis C.

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Well,  I'm mostly interested in a way of keeping batteries typed up.   I'll be 
keeping the boat on a mooring.   Ideally I'd install a properly designed solar 
charging system but I'm trying to kick that can down the road. 

 

Danny

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight 

 

As Josh stated, it is not the same as a marinized, built in diesel genset.  But 
it is only $400.00

 

It really depends on what you want to do with it.

 

Run your AC?  I don't think so.  Charge your batteries through your onboard 
battery charger as you are away from shore power?  Yes, it will do that.  Run a 
few power tools while you are doing some work on the boat at a mooring or at 
anchor?  Yes, it will do that too.

 

Honda was the first to make these small inverter generators and theirs are 
reasonably quiet, though you probably won't make any friends running this in a 
silent anchorage at night.  If you have to sit i on deck you will find it 
noisier below that above as the deck is like a soundboard.  If you can leave it 
on the dock while it is running you will likely find it to be quiet.

 

This one does seem to output 12 DC, 8 amps, directly.  Look at the photos on 
the website.

 

What did you want to do with it / use it for?

 

Ken H.

 

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I have a similar one.  They work.  They are also loud and use gasoline instead 
of diesel.  It's a pull start only.  They don't offer a 12v output.  They are 
not marinized, flame arrested or corrosion proof/resistant to the level needed 
for long term marine use.  They are also air cooled and exhaust to the air 
which means absolutely no inside use unlike a properly installed marine 
generator.  2200 running watts is likely to be 10amps @ 220v or 20 amps at 
110v.  Not likely to be on par with your shore power.  You may struggle if 
running HVAC. 

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

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Hi guys, 

Just saw an ad in my email this generator

 

 


2500 Peak/2200 Running Watts, 4.7 HP (125cc) Portable Inverter Generator EPA III


 

Is on sale for $399 with coupon code. 

 

Anyone have any thoughts on it? 

 

Danny

 

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Re: Stus-List portable generator on sale at harbor freight

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I missed the weight, big difference between this one and the comparable
Honda.

Honda EU2000i = DRY WEIGHT 20.7 KG (45.6 LB)

Harbor Freight Predator = Product Weight 29 kg / 63.93 lbs

Almost 20 lbs. (40%) heavier for roughly the same generator.

Ouch. (that's my back saying that)

Ken H.

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> I looked at it yesterday at my local Harbor Freight and decided not to
> purchase. One of the big factors for me was the weight, just under 70 lbs.
> That is too much for me to put in a locker and get out. The price is right
> considering the comparable Honda is $999.00.
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Stus-List portable generator on sale at harbor freight

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I looked at it yesterday at my local Harbor Freight and decided not to 
purchase. One of the big factors for me was the weight, just under 70 lbs. That 
is too much for me to put in a locker and get out. The price is right 
considering the comparable Honda is $999.00.

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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

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A good quality lead/acid battery  will self-discharge at the rate of 3 to 5 
percent a month. So if you start with a fully charged start battery and have no 
load on it – like your bilge pump – you should be able to leave the boat for 5 
or 6 months and still be confident about being able to start the engine.

 

Batteries do last longer if stored fully charged. Sulfation is a large part of 
the problem when batteries are at a low state of charge for an extended period. 
But it really doesn’t look like you are talking about an extended period. And 
as long as you can start the engine, you can always recharge a depleted house 
bank as needed.

 

My electrical consumption, when on the boat, is pretty similar to yours; 
fridge, lights, radio, instruments when sailing, and recharge phones and 
tablet. All powered exclusively from the house bank. I figure my average 
consumption is about 75-80 AH per day. My 4 group 27 deep cycle batteries will 
give me at least 2 and usually 3 days of service without starting the engine to 
recharge. I would imagine your house bank would be adequate for a couple of 
days at anchor. And a couple of weeks – at least - of powering the bilge pump 
unless you have an unusually wet boat.

 

Before I leave to go full time cruising, I do plan to install the wind 
generator I already have but have never installed, and to add a charge 
controller and maybe 300 watts of solar panels. But that will be to allow 
extended living on the hook while I travel – which is a whole other situation 
that week long coastal cruising.

 

I actually have a third bank on Imzadi: a group 24 deep cycle under the v berth 
that supplies power to the windlass and the Lectra-san. Current draw in high, 
but only for very short periods.  The house and start banks are charged from 
either the engine or shore power, but the group 24 is not wired in. I have a 
little 35 watt solar panel bought at WalMart that I use sporadically as a 
trickle charger for the group 24 battery. I just replaced the group 24 after 6 
years. 

 

Maybe all you really need – and mostly for your own comfort and confidence – is 
a small solar panel you can use to trickle charge the start battery.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

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Rick, 

 

She has a house bank of 3 group 27s and a starting battery. 

 

Maybe I should just get a solar panel now.  I had a small one I would hook up 
when leaving the boat on lolita.  

 

I also understand keeping your batteries topped up prolongs their life. 

 

We usually use the boat every weekend and do weekends on her here and there and 
then, we plan on doing maybe 2 one week cruises around the islands here.  We do 
have a refer and use lights,  charging tablets and phones.  Just your regular 
convenience type usage. 

 

Danny

 

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

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Rick, 
She has a house bank of 3 group 27s and a starting battery. 
Maybe I should just get a solar panel now.  I had a small one I would hook up 
when leaving the boat on lolita.  
I also understand keeping your batteries topped up prolongs their life. 
We usually use the boat every weekend and do weekends on her here and there and 
then, we plan on doing maybe 2 one week cruises around the islands here.  We do 
have a refer and use lights,  charging tablets and phones.  Just your regular 
convenience type usage. 
Danny


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harbor  freight 
Danny; How long will your boat be left on the mooring between uses? I have a 
house bank of (4) group 27 deep cycles (460AH when they were new in 2011, 
probably less now), and a 95AH deep cycle battery for a start bank. I almost 
always leave the switch so the house bank is powering the bilge pump, and 
usually forget to switch to the start battery to start the engine…. and 
frequently forget to switch to “ALL” when the engine is running and charge the 
start battery. I rarely plug into shore power, so the only charging is from the 
engine during the 30 minutes or so it takes to get sails up and to get out of 
the channel. For the most part the boat gets used on an average of once every 
two weeks – though it may go for two months or more in spring and fall, and 
when I’m busy with other commitments in the summer.  And the boat has never 
failed to start. Thinking back to recent use, I ran the engine for a couple of 
hours in mid-September when returning from a charity regatta. Then the boat sat 
until a day sail in mid-October, when it got about an hour of run time. The day 
after Thanksgiving I ran the engine for about 10 minutes when I moved the boat 
to a different slip for the Christmas display. Then about 10 minutes on the day 
after New Years to get it back to the regular slip. I took a friend and his son 
out for a day sail on February 17th (55 degrees F feels like winter to me. My 
friend and his son were in shorts and flip flops. 55 degrees must feel like 
early summer to folks from New Hampshire.) and the batteries were showing 12.6v 
when I went to the boat that day. You may be overly worried about the need to 
maintain the batteries, unless you are letting the boat sit for months at a 
time or you are powering your bilge pump from the start bank.  And if 
maintaining the batteries is your only reason for the generator, you might 
think about getting one of those battery chargers with a boost feature for jump 
starting the engine. It would be a lot cheaper and a lot more portable than the 
generator. Rick BrassWashington, NC   From: CnC-List 
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No way I'm dragging 2 group 27s in and out of the dink every time I go out.   
Wouldn't be long before one ended up in the drink. ..  lol Danny   Sent from my 
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cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight  Buy 2 extra 
batteries, take them home, charge them, swap them out.  Repeat.  Half the price 
of the generator.Dennis C.On Feb 27, 2016 10:08 AM, "Danny Haughey via 
CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:Well,  I'm mostly interested in a way 
of keeping batteries typed up.   I'll be keeping the boat on a mooring.   
Ideally I'd install a properly designed solar charging system but I'm trying to 
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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Danny;

 

How long will your boat be left on the mooring between uses?

 

I have a house bank of (4) group 27 deep cycles (460AH when they were new in 
2011, probably less now), and a 95AH deep cycle battery for a start bank. I 
almost always leave the switch so the house bank is powering the bilge pump, 
and usually forget to switch to the start battery to start the engine…. and 
frequently forget to switch to “ALL” when the engine is running and charge the 
start battery. I rarely plug into shore power, so the only charging is from the 
engine during the 30 minutes or so it takes to get sails up and to get out of 
the channel. For the most part the boat gets used on an average of once every 
two weeks – though it may go for two months or more in spring and fall, and 
when I’m busy with other commitments in the summer. 

 

And the boat has never failed to start.

 

Thinking back to recent use, I ran the engine for a couple of hours in 
mid-September when returning from a charity regatta. Then the boat sat until a 
day sail in mid-October, when it got about an hour of run time. The day after 
Thanksgiving I ran the engine for about 10 minutes when I moved the boat to a 
different slip for the Christmas display. Then about 10 minutes on the day 
after New Years to get it back to the regular slip. I took a friend and his son 
out for a day sail on February 17th (55 degrees F feels like winter to me. My 
friend and his son were in shorts and flip flops. 55 degrees must feel like 
early summer to folks from New Hampshire.) and the batteries were showing 12.6v 
when I went to the boat that day.

 

You may be overly worried about the need to maintain the batteries, unless you 
are letting the boat sit for months at a time or you are powering your bilge 
pump from the start bank. 

 

And if maintaining the batteries is your only reason for the generator, you 
might think about getting one of those battery chargers with a boost feature 
for jump starting the engine. It would be a lot cheaper and a lot more portable 
than the generator.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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No way I'm dragging 2 group 27s in and out of the dink every time I go out.   
Wouldn't be long before one ended up in the drink. ..  lol

 

Danny

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight 

 

Buy 2 extra batteries, take them home, charge them, swap them out.  Repeat.  
Half the price of the generator.

Dennis C.

On Feb 27, 2016 10:08 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Well,  I'm mostly interested in a way of keeping batteries typed up.   I'll be 
keeping the boat on a mooring.   Ideally I'd install a properly designed solar 
charging system but I'm trying to kick that can down the road. 

 

Danny

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

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No way I'm dragging 2 group 27s in and out of the dink every time I go out.   
Wouldn't be long before one ended up in the drink. ..  lol
Danny


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Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor  freight 
Buy 2 extra batteries, take them home, charge them, swap them out.  Repeat.  
Half the price of the generator.
Dennis C.
On Feb 27, 2016 10:08 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:
Well,  I'm mostly interested in a way of keeping batteries typed up.   I'll be 
keeping the boat on a mooring.   Ideally I'd install a properly designed solar 
charging system but I'm trying to kick that can down the road. 
Danny


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<kenhea...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on 
sale at harbor  freight 
As Josh stated, it is not the same as a marinized, built in diesel genset.  But 
it is only $400.00
It really depends on what you want to do with it.
Run your AC?  I don't think so.  Charge your batteries through your onboard 
battery charger as you are away from shore power?  Yes, it will do that.  Run a 
few power tools while you are doing some work on the boat at a mooring or at 
anchor?  Yes, it will do that too.
Honda was the first to make these small inverter generators and theirs are 
reasonably quiet, though you probably won't make any friends running this in a 
silent anchorage at night.  If you have to sit i on deck you will find it 
noisier below that above as the deck is like a soundboard.  If you can leave it 
on the dock while it is running you will likely find it to be quiet.
This one does seem to output 12 DC, 8 amps, directly.  Look at the photos on 
the website.
What did you want to do with it / use it for?
Ken H.
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I have a similar one.  They work.  They are also loud and use gasoline instead 
of diesel.  It's a pull start only.  They don't offer a 12v output.  They are 
not marinized, flame arrested or corrosion proof/resistant to the level needed 
for long term marine use.  They are also air cooled and exhaust to the air 
which means absolutely no inside use unlike a properly installed marine 
generator.  2200 running watts is likely to be 10amps @ 220v or 20 amps at 
110v.  Not likely to be on par with your shore power.  You may struggle if 
running HVAC. 
Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk

1989 C 37+

Solomons, MD
On Feb 27, 2016 10:34 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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Hi guys, Just saw an ad in my email this generator

2500 Peak/2200 Running Watts, 4.7 HP (125cc) Portable Inverter Generator EPA III
Is on sale for $399 with coupon code. 
Anyone have any thoughts on it? 
Danny
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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

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Buy 2 extra batteries, take them home, charge them, swap them out.
Repeat.  Half the price of the generator.

Dennis C.
On Feb 27, 2016 10:08 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Well,  I'm mostly interested in a way of keeping batteries typed up.
> I'll be keeping the boat on a mooring.   Ideally I'd install a properly
> designed solar charging system but I'm trying to kick that can down the
> road.
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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> Date: 2/27/2016 11:22 AM (GMT-05:00)
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> Cc: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor
> freight
>
> As Josh stated, it is not the same as a marinized, built in diesel
> genset.  But it is only $400.00
>
> It really depends on what you want to do with it.
>
> Run your AC?  I don't think so.  Charge your batteries through your
> onboard battery charger as you are away from shore power?  Yes, it will do
> that.  Run a few power tools while you are doing some work on the boat at a
> mooring or at anchor?  Yes, it will do that too.
>
> Honda was the first to make these small inverter generators and theirs are
> reasonably quiet, though you probably won't make any friends running this
> in a silent anchorage at night.  If you have to sit i on deck you will find
> it noisier below that above as the deck is like a soundboard.  If you can
> leave it on the dock while it is running you will likely find it to be
> quiet.
>
> This one does seem to output 12 DC, 8 amps, directly.  Look at the photos
> on the website.
>
> What did you want to do with it / use it for?
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 27 February 2016 at 12:07, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a similar one.  They work.  They are also loud and use gasoline
>> instead of diesel.  It's a pull start only.  They don't offer a 12v
>> output.  They are not marinized, flame arrested or corrosion
>> proof/resistant to the level needed for long term marine use.  They are
>> also air cooled and exhaust to the air which means absolutely no inside use
>> unlike a properly installed marine generator.  2200 running watts is likely
>> to be 10amps @ 220v or 20 amps at 110v.  Not likely to be on par with your
>> shore power.  You may struggle if running HVAC.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Feb 27, 2016 10:34 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>> Just saw an ad in my email this generator
>>>
>>>
>>> 2500 Peak/2200 Running Watts, 4.7 HP (125cc) Portable Inverter Generator
>>> EPA III
>>>
>>> Is on sale for $399 with coupon code.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any thoughts on it?
>>>
>>> Danny
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

You'll be able to charge up on the hook/mooring with your engine.  If you
aren't able to be there regularly I suspect you could last easily up to 2
months without a charge.  The bilge pump would be the single most likely
load.  If it drains your battery you probably have bigger problems to worry
about.

Assuming that you have lead acid batteries and that they amount to a bank
of 400 Ah then the highest charge current you could use is 100 amps.
Assuming that you didn't discharge greater than 50% then it would take you
absolutely no less than 2 hours to get to full charge.  This doesn't even
include the absorption phase of charging.  There is a reasonable likelihood
that you have an alternator and charge controller on your boat that nears
100 amps.  If not, then your $399 would be better spent on an upgrade.  IMO.

So that a run away bilge pump doesn't kill your batteries between visits,
you might want to consider a "priority start" or ensure that you have a
dedicated starting battery.  The priority start is a device that separates
your small electrical loads once a low battery voltage condition is
reached.  The low resistance of the starter reconnects the battery during
an attempted engine start.  These devices were developed to prevent killing
your car battery by leaving the headlights on.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Feb 27, 2016 12:08 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Well,  I'm mostly interested in a way of keeping batteries typed up.
> I'll be keeping the boat on a mooring.   Ideally I'd install a properly
> designed solar charging system but I'm trying to kick that can down the
> road.
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>  Original message 
> From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: 2/27/2016 11:22 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor
> freight
>
> As Josh stated, it is not the same as a marinized, built in diesel
> genset.  But it is only $400.00
>
> It really depends on what you want to do with it.
>
> Run your AC?  I don't think so.  Charge your batteries through your
> onboard battery charger as you are away from shore power?  Yes, it will do
> that.  Run a few power tools while you are doing some work on the boat at a
> mooring or at anchor?  Yes, it will do that too.
>
> Honda was the first to make these small inverter generators and theirs are
> reasonably quiet, though you probably won't make any friends running this
> in a silent anchorage at night.  If you have to sit i on deck you will find
> it noisier below that above as the deck is like a soundboard.  If you can
> leave it on the dock while it is running you will likely find it to be
> quiet.
>
> This one does seem to output 12 DC, 8 amps, directly.  Look at the photos
> on the website.
>
> What did you want to do with it / use it for?
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 27 February 2016 at 12:07, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a similar one.  They work.  They are also loud and use gasoline
>> instead of diesel.  It's a pull start only.  They don't offer a 12v
>> output.  They are not marinized, flame arrested or corrosion
>> proof/resistant to the level needed for long term marine use.  They are
>> also air cooled and exhaust to the air which means absolutely no inside use
>> unlike a properly installed marine generator.  2200 running watts is likely
>> to be 10amps @ 220v or 20 amps at 110v.  Not likely to be on par with your
>> shore power.  You may struggle if running HVAC.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> On Feb 27, 2016 10:34 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>> Just saw an ad in my email this generator
>>>
>>>
>>> 2500 Peak/2200 Running Watts, 4.7 HP (125cc) Portable Inverter Generator
>>> EPA III
>>>
>>> Is on sale for $399 with coupon code.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any thoughts on it?
>>>
>>> Danny
>>>
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>>>
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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Well,  I'm mostly interested in a way of keeping batteries typed up.   I'll be 
keeping the boat on a mooring.   Ideally I'd install a properly designed solar 
charging system but I'm trying to kick that can down the road. 
Danny


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Ken 
Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 2/27/2016  11:22 AM  
(GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Ken Heaton 
<kenhea...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on 
sale at harbor  freight 
As Josh stated, it is not the same as a marinized, built in diesel genset.  But 
it is only $400.00
It really depends on what you want to do with it.
Run your AC?  I don't think so.  Charge your batteries through your onboard 
battery charger as you are away from shore power?  Yes, it will do that.  Run a 
few power tools while you are doing some work on the boat at a mooring or at 
anchor?  Yes, it will do that too.
Honda was the first to make these small inverter generators and theirs are 
reasonably quiet, though you probably won't make any friends running this in a 
silent anchorage at night.  If you have to sit i on deck you will find it 
noisier below that above as the deck is like a soundboard.  If you can leave it 
on the dock while it is running you will likely find it to be quiet.
This one does seem to output 12 DC, 8 amps, directly.  Look at the photos on 
the website.
What did you want to do with it / use it for?
Ken H.
On 27 February 2016 at 12:07, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:
I have a similar one.  They work.  They are also loud and use gasoline instead 
of diesel.  It's a pull start only.  They don't offer a 12v output.  They are 
not marinized, flame arrested or corrosion proof/resistant to the level needed 
for long term marine use.  They are also air cooled and exhaust to the air 
which means absolutely no inside use unlike a properly installed marine 
generator.  2200 running watts is likely to be 10amps @ 220v or 20 amps at 
110v.  Not likely to be on par with your shore power.  You may struggle if 
running HVAC. 
Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk

1989 C 37+

Solomons, MD
On Feb 27, 2016 10:34 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:
Hi guys, Just saw an ad in my email this generator

2500 Peak/2200 Running Watts, 4.7 HP (125cc) Portable Inverter Generator EPA III
Is on sale for $399 with coupon code. 
Anyone have any thoughts on it? 
Danny
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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

As Josh stated, it is not the same as a marinized, built in diesel genset.
But it is only $400.00

It really depends on what you want to do with it.

Run your AC?  I don't think so.  Charge your batteries through your onboard
battery charger as you are away from shore power?  Yes, it will do that.
Run a few power tools while you are doing some work on the boat at a
mooring or at anchor?  Yes, it will do that too.

Honda was the first to make these small inverter generators and theirs are
reasonably quiet, though you probably won't make any friends running this
in a silent anchorage at night.  If you have to sit i on deck you will find
it noisier below that above as the deck is like a soundboard.  If you can
leave it on the dock while it is running you will likely find it to be
quiet.

This one does seem to output 12 DC, 8 amps, directly.  Look at the photos
on the website.

What did you want to do with it / use it for?

Ken H.

On 27 February 2016 at 12:07, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have a similar one.  They work.  They are also loud and use gasoline
> instead of diesel.  It's a pull start only.  They don't offer a 12v
> output.  They are not marinized, flame arrested or corrosion
> proof/resistant to the level needed for long term marine use.  They are
> also air cooled and exhaust to the air which means absolutely no inside use
> unlike a properly installed marine generator.  2200 running watts is likely
> to be 10amps @ 220v or 20 amps at 110v.  Not likely to be on par with your
> shore power.  You may struggle if running HVAC.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Feb 27, 2016 10:34 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>> Just saw an ad in my email this generator
>>
>>
>> 2500 Peak/2200 Running Watts, 4.7 HP (125cc) Portable Inverter Generator
>> EPA III
>>
>> Is on sale for $399 with coupon code.
>>
>> Anyone have any thoughts on it?
>>
>> Danny
>>
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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I have a similar one.  They work.  They are also loud and use gasoline
instead of diesel.  It's a pull start only.  They don't offer a 12v
output.  They are not marinized, flame arrested or corrosion
proof/resistant to the level needed for long term marine use.  They are
also air cooled and exhaust to the air which means absolutely no inside use
unlike a properly installed marine generator.  2200 running watts is likely
to be 10amps @ 220v or 20 amps at 110v.  Not likely to be on par with your
shore power.  You may struggle if running HVAC.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Feb 27, 2016 10:34 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi guys,
> Just saw an ad in my email this generator
>
>
> 2500 Peak/2200 Running Watts, 4.7 HP (125cc) Portable Inverter Generator
> EPA III
>
> Is on sale for $399 with coupon code.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts on it?
>
> Danny
>
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Re: Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

One of the reviews on the Harbor Freight site reads as follows.  If 1800 -
1900 watts is enough output for your application then this will be a great
little generator until it breaks, then you throw it away as it is made in
China and parts will not be available.  1800 - 1900 watts is roughtly what
you get from a 15 amp outlet at home.

Ken H.

http://www.harborfreight.com/engines-generators/gas-engine-generators/2500-peak2200-running-watts-47-hp-125cc-portable-inverter-generator-61169.html

Below rated power

It just so happens I work in a large shop which repairs military
generators. After buying this generator, I could not wait until I could put
this inverter generator on a calibrated load bank. The generator is rated
at 2200 watts with a peak of 2500. The little generator just will not do
it. It will hold a little over 1900 watts for long periods, and kick the
over load light on around its peak of 2100 watts. Again,the equipment we
tested this with is calibrated yearly. It seems to put out very clean power
to run your electronics. Another draw back to the unit is the generator is
wire to stay in the econ mode which means the engine will slow down without
a load. This is not always a bad thing because it save on fuel; however, it
takes a split second to spin up to full throttle. This causes problems when
items such as small compressors, saws, RV A/C, etc. are used. Most other
generators in this size have an econ switch which when switch off allows
the generator to run at full power. At full power this generator would have
the power need to start small to medium motors. Having said all of this,
the generators would be great for electronics and lights/ small heaters. It
seems to be well built with good quality control done. I would not
recommend this for refrigerators because the sudden voltage drop and then
surge of power when the motor kicks in can damage the refrigerator.

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> Hi guys,
> Just saw an ad in my email this generator
>
>
> 2500 Peak/2200 Running Watts, 4.7 HP (125cc) Portable Inverter Generator
> EPA III
>
> Is on sale for $399 with coupon code.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts on it?
>
> Danny
>
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Stus-List Stus-list: portable generator on sale at harbor freight

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi guys, Just saw an ad in my email this generator

2500 Peak/2200 Running Watts, 4.7 HP (125cc) Portable Inverter Generator EPA III
Is on sale for $399 with coupon code. 
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