Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-29 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List 
Hi Doug- Thanks- That looks very interesting and likely better than what I 
found.  Here is another version of the trolling motor connector and I think 
this one might be even better because it is a twist lock:
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=1450028

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Aug 28, 2020, at 9:10 PM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> You might try a trolling motor connector. 
> https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwiOtYicnb_rAhWWHq0GHV8sAt4YABASGgJwdg=www.google.com=CAESQOD2Qlk9x2Q9eli-LbRcs2WtyHBRTbwg2vwr1ztLggJSNu7XODBHlpo7ZgBIsMTLrsWcrLWuIPVWHKKBQPkVLSg=AOD64_3kklYLJiB3oqzzU2iLc8cxpwDscw=5==2ahUKEwi7s_-bnb_rAhXTOn0KHSMvBSMQwg96BQgNEOcB=
> 
> 
> 
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> sv Rebecca Leah 
> C Landfall 39
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Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
You might try a trolling motor connector. 
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwiOtYicnb_rAhWWHq0GHV8sAt4YABASGgJwdg=www.google.com=CAESQOD2Qlk9x2Q9eli-LbRcs2WtyHBRTbwg2vwr1ztLggJSNu7XODBHlpo7ZgBIsMTLrsWcrLWuIPVWHKKBQPkVLSg=AOD64_3kklYLJiB3oqzzU2iLc8cxpwDscw=5==2ahUKEwi7s_-bnb_rAhXTOn0KHSMvBSMQwg96BQgNEOcB=Doug
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Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread Dave S via CnC-List 
Lol - worked for HUBBELL for 20 years and get kinda peevish on low-rent 
connectors too.It amazes me that the automobile cigarette lighter has left 
us this klunky legacy.
After military/aerospace The industrial automation biz probably has the best 
harsh environment and ip68 (ingress protection) rated low voltage and current 
stuff.  https://bradharrisonsales.com/mc_attachable_connectors.htm
Just an example, the first google hit.  there are broad families of these and 
many other manufacturers.  Turck, Phoenix, Brad Harrison, others.  If you 
can’t adapt a molded cordset (likely the most common) Look for ‘field 
attachable’ or ‘field wireable’ ‘mini-change’ etc   Search also ‘devicenet’ 
connectors.  You will notIce that a micro-change (might be nano.)   
devicenet connector is the same as nmea2000.
Dave 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Bill Coleman  wrote:
> 
> 
> That is one of my pet peeves.
> I cannot understand why there has been no effort to establish a standard for 
> 12 V receptacle, other than a cigarette lighter receptacle, which is a 
> ridiculous  connector.
>  
> I refuse to use those on my boat, as they are mostly for device charging 
> anyways, so I use a Powerwerx  USB Fast charge, which I realize won’t solve 
> your trickle charging, but the
> PanelPole might.
>  
> https://powerwerx.com/panel-mounts
>  
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie, PA
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David 
> Knecht via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 1:39 PM
> To: CnC CnC discussion list
> Cc: David Knecht
> Subject: Stus-List solar panel connector
>  
> When I set up a solar panel for trickle charging the battery, I used a 
> cigarette lighter type receptacle and plug to run the solar panel wire 
> through the bulkhead 
> (https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE).
>   
> However, I have found those plugs to not be reliable and don’t maintain 
> contact when left for long periods.  So I am looking for a better plug 
> system.  
>  
> I am thinking of something like this:
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly=-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701
>  
> Any suggestions?  Dave
>  
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
>  
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Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Maybe this 400 ‘series Buccaneer.

 

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bulgin/PX0411-03S-5560?qs=xh6E4zEJdPnb8oA%252BISu0FQ%3D%3D
 
<https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bulgin/PX0411-03S-5560?qs=xh6E4zEJdPnb8oA%252BISu0FQ%3D%3D=Cj0KCQjw1qL6BRCmARIsADV9JtaYoMRPdFlv1rWy7kNvLe04WJJBL3UW6gnRXB3RPKBTQmeEPd2KLlUaAj_hEALw_wcB>
 
=Cj0KCQjw1qL6BRCmARIsADV9JtaYoMRPdFlv1rWy7kNvLe04WJJBL3UW6gnRXB3RPKBTQmeEPd2KLlUaAj_hEALw_wcB

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:56 PM
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Cc: David Knecht
Subject: Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

 

I have encountered several “waterproof” connectors like this and the problem is 
that the cover is watertight, but when you use it, it is not covered and so not 
watertight.  I looked more carefully at the Perko I linked to and it is also 
not watertight when the cover is off.  Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT








On Aug 28, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
wrote:

 

That is one of my pet peeves.

I cannot understand why there has been no effort to establish a standard for 12 
V receptacle, other than a cigarette lighter receptacle, which is a ridiculous  
connector.

 

I refuse to use those on my boat, as they are mostly for device charging 
anyways, so I use a Powerwerx  USB Fast charge, which I realize won’t solve 
your trickle charging, but the 

PanelPole might.

 

 <https://powerwerx.com/panel-mounts> https://powerwerx.com/panel-mounts

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 1:39 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list
Cc: David Knecht
Subject: Stus-List solar panel connector

 

When I set up a solar panel for trickle charging the battery, I used a 
cigarette lighter type receptacle and plug to run the solar panel wire through 
the bulkhead ( 
<https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE>
 
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE).
  

However, I have found those plugs to not be reliable and don’t maintain contact 
when left for long periods.  So I am looking for a better plug system.  

 

I am thinking of something like this:

 
<https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly=-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701>
 
https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly=-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701

 

Any suggestions?  Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT




 

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Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
I would recommend MC4 connectors. See: 
https://powerwerx.com/mc4-solar-cable-connectors-5 
 

I have them on my panel for over a decade now (Damn, I’m getting old)


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

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On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:00 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List  
wrote:

This looks like what I want and is also available on Amazon:

https://12vtechnology.com/collections/connectors-waterproof/products/new-waterproof-two-2-pin-wire-terminal-solar-panel-connector-marine-w-boot-12v
 


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1990 C 34+
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Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List 
This looks like what I want and is also available on Amazon:

https://12vtechnology.com/collections/connectors-waterproof/products/new-waterproof-two-2-pin-wire-terminal-solar-panel-connector-marine-w-boot-12v

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1990 C 34+
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Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List 
I have encountered several “waterproof” connectors like this and the problem is 
that the cover is watertight, but when you use it, it is not covered and so not 
watertight.  I looked more carefully at the Perko I linked to and it is also 
not watertight when the cover is off.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Aug 28, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is one of my pet peeves.
> I cannot understand why there has been no effort to establish a standard for 
> 12 V receptacle, other than a cigarette lighter receptacle, which is a 
> ridiculous  connector.
>  
> I refuse to use those on my boat, as they are mostly for device charging 
> anyways, so I use a Powerwerx  USB Fast charge, which I realize won’t solve 
> your trickle charging, but the 
> PanelPole might.
>  
> https://powerwerx.com/panel-mounts <https://powerwerx.com/panel-mounts>
>  
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie, PA
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of David Knecht via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 1:39 PM
> To: CnC CnC discussion list
> Cc: David Knecht
> Subject: Stus-List solar panel connector
>  
> When I set up a solar panel for trickle charging the battery, I used a 
> cigarette lighter type receptacle and plug to run the solar panel wire 
> through the bulkhead 
> (https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE
>  
> <https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE>).
>   
> However, I have found those plugs to not be reliable and don’t maintain 
> contact when left for long periods.  So I am looking for a better plug 
> system.  
>  
> I am thinking of something like this:
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly=-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701
>  
> <https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly=-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701>
>  
> Any suggestions?  Dave
>  
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
>  
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Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
That is one of my pet peeves.

I cannot understand why there has been no effort to establish a standard for 12 
V receptacle, other than a cigarette lighter receptacle, which is a ridiculous  
connector.

 

I refuse to use those on my boat, as they are mostly for device charging 
anyways, so I use a Powerwerx  USB Fast charge, which I realize won’t solve 
your trickle charging, but the 

PanelPole might.

 

https://powerwerx.com/panel-mounts

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 1:39 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list
Cc: David Knecht
Subject: Stus-List solar panel connector

 

When I set up a solar panel for trickle charging the battery, I used a 
cigarette lighter type receptacle and plug to run the solar panel wire through 
the bulkhead 
(https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528 
<https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE>
 
=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE). 
 

However, I have found those plugs to not be reliable and don’t maintain contact 
when left for long periods.  So I am looking for a better plug system.  

 

I am thinking of something like this:

https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly
 
<https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly=-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701>
 =-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701

 

Any suggestions?  Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT




 

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Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
i'm not surprised the SeaDog's didn't hold up in the weather.
You could go with MC4 connectors, but if you remove the panel frequently it
would be a pain.

Joel

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:40 PM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> When I set up a solar panel for trickle charging the battery, I used a
> cigarette lighter type receptacle and plug to run the solar panel wire
> through the bulkhead (
> https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE).
>
> However, I have found those plugs to not be reliable and don’t maintain
> contact when left for long periods.  So I am looking for a better plug
> system.
>
> I am thinking of something like this:
>
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly=-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701
>
> Any suggestions?  Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
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Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List 
Hi Joel- Tried one of those also.  They are fine for inside computer etc. but 
left out in the sun and weather for months, it seemed to loose the spring 
action so loses contact over time.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Aug 28, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dave, 
> 
> I use the cheaper SeaDog equivalent for my 12 volt computer and monitor 
> without issues.  If your panel is 50w or less it would be adequate.
> 
> Joel
> 
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:40 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> When I set up a solar panel for trickle charging the battery, I used a 
> cigarette lighter type receptacle and plug to run the solar panel wire 
> through the bulkhead 
> (https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE
>  
> ).
>   
> However, I have found those plugs to not be reliable and don’t maintain 
> contact when left for long periods.  So I am looking for a better plug 
> system.  
> 
> I am thinking of something like this:
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly=-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701
>  
> 
> 
> Any suggestions?  Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Dave,

I use the cheaper SeaDog equivalent for my 12 volt computer and monitor
without issues.  If your panel is 50w or less it would be adequate.

Joel

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:40 PM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> When I set up a solar panel for trickle charging the battery, I used a
> cigarette lighter type receptacle and plug to run the solar panel wire
> through the bulkhead (
> https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE).
>
> However, I have found those plugs to not be reliable and don’t maintain
> contact when left for long periods.  So I am looking for a better plug
> system.
>
> I am thinking of something like this:
>
> https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly=-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701
>
> Any suggestions?  Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
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Stus-List solar panel connector

2020-08-28 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List 
When I set up a solar panel for trickle charging the battery, I used a 
cigarette lighter type receptacle and plug to run the solar panel wire through 
the bulkhead 
(https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8528=adwords=EAIaIQobChMI-qHNvba-6wIVxdSzCh3ByQDYEAQYBCABEgLIQfD_BwE).
  
However, I have found those plugs to not be reliable and don’t maintain contact 
when left for long periods.  So I am looking for a better plug system.  

I am thinking of something like this:
https://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?name=perko-watertight-cable-outlet-and-plug-assembly=-1|328|2289986|2289944|2289946=846701

Any suggestions?  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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