[cobirds] Re: South-central Colorado, Mar. 12– 17, 2024

[Ted Floyd]

Here's something fun, from the archives:

https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/cobirds/c/oqCyicSjiHc/m/S8EvX70veekJ

Literally, from the COBirds archives.

That was the first San Luis Valley road trip Hannah and I ever did
together. And, now, a mere 17 years later... :-)

(No sandstorms and snow devils for that 2007 expedition, but how 'bout the
incident with the car and the flame-thrower!)

—Ted Floyd, Lafayette, Boulder Co.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 5:55 AM Ted Floyd  wrote:

Hey, all.
>
> Hannah Floyd and I were down in south-central Colorado for much of the
> past week—whilst so many of the rest of you were dealing with the big
> winter storm in the Front Range foothills and along the I-25 corridor. But
> we got to experience some weather ourselves, including an intense
> sandstorm, several prolonged bouts of graupel, and even an impressive "snow
> devil." Some quick highlights:
>
> 1. Lathrop State Park, Huerfano Co., Tues., Mar. 12. Breezy and warm and
> kinda slow birdwise, with 4 *Woodhouse scrub-jays,* 2 *juniper titmouses,*
> 2 *American bushtits,* 2 *Bewick wrens,* 1 *curve-billed thrasher,* and
> the first of the many hundreds, perhaps 1,000+, *mountain bluebirds* that
> we would see during our expedition. Also a nice showing by green claybank
> tiger beetles, *Cicindela denverensis*; we succeeded in audio-recording
> their sonations!—a first for us, for sure, and perhaps for anyone.
>
> 2. Great Sand Dunes National Park, Alamosa Co., Tues., Mar. 12. Arriving
> there at sundown and climbing the dunes during a sandstorm was
> memorable—but also unconducive to birding. We saw and heard nothing!
>
> 3. Medano Ranch [PRIVATE], Alamosa Co. On Wed., Mar. 13, as snow squalls
> were coming down off the Sangre de Cristo range, a singing
> *loggerhead shrike,* 1 *sage thrasher,* and at least 7 *sagebrush
> sparrows.* On Thurs., Mar. 14, in heavy snow, 3 northbound *killdeer,* a 
> *golden
> eagle,* the famous *ferruginous hawk x red-tailed hawk,* back now for the
> 7th year; and an enchanting North American porcupine, *Erethizon dorsatum*,
> covered in snow and watching our group from just above eye level in an old
> willow.
>
> 4. Smith Reservoir State Wildlife Area [FEE, PERMIT], Costilla Co., Wed.,
> Mar. 13. In rain, sleet, graupel, and then snow flurries, large numbers and
> a good diversity of ducks, including 100+ *northern pintails,* 150+ *common
> mergansers,* and 1 *red-breasted merganser;* 3,500+ *sandhill cranes;* 1 
> *Wilson
> snipe;* and 2 *merlins.*
>
> 5. Monte Vista National Wildlife Refuge, Rio Grande Co. On Thurs., Mar.
> 14, in on-and-off snow squalls and then a steadier snow, 4 *cinnamon
> teal, *40+* ruddy ducks,* and 2 more merlins. On Sat., Mar. 16, in bright
> sunshine and then heavy graupel, an amazing anserine showing, with 13 *snow
> geese,* 4 *greater white-fronted geese, *4,500 *cackling geese* (their
> numbers at the refuge have gone off the charts in recent years), a few 
> *"lesser"
> Canada geese* still hanging on, 2 *Anser x Branta hybrids,* and, just off
> the refuge, 5 *domestic swan ("Chinese") geese;* *bald eagles* at a nest;
> and 4 *marsh wrens.*
>
> 6. Home Lake, Rio Grande Co., Fri., Mar. 15. In bright sunshine, 125+
> *gadwalls;* early shorebirds including 1 female *American avocet* and 6 
> *greater
> yellowlegses;* 5 *American white pelicans;* and wonderful viewing of a
> pair of muskrats, *Ondatra zibethicus*.
>
> 7. Lane 5, Alamosa Co., Fri., Mar. 15, & Sat., Mar. 16. Roadside stops
> produced hundreds more (but not thousands) of sandhill cranes, a *ferruginous
> hawk* and a *prairie falcon,* and large roadside flocks of mountain
> bluebirds and especially *horned larks. *
>
> 8. Zapata Ranch [PRIVATE], Alamosa Co., Sat., Mar. 16. Under cloudy skies,
> 2 marvelous singing *long-eared owls,* including one in a nearby juniper;
> 5 *great horned owls;* 40+ *pinyon jays;* surprisingly, two pairs of
> nest-excavating *pygmy nuthatches* (the habitat here does not seem
> suitable for them); and our only *western bluebird* of the trip amid
> several mountain bluebirds.
>
> 9. Center, Saguache Co., Sun. Mar. 17. After a promisingly mild and sunny
> start to the morning, overcast with flurries, and our first and only *Say
> phoebe* of the trip; thought we mighta had a few tree swallows there,
> too, but not sure.
>
> 10. Russell Lakes State Wildlife Area, Saguache Co., Sun., Mar. 17. Under
> cloudy and cool conditions with snow squalls nearby, a likely Mallard x
> Mexican Duck intergrade, 1 notably pale *Streptopelia collared-dove,*
> golden and bald eagles, 2 agonistic loggerhead shries, a marsh wren, a
> screeching *great-tailed grackle,* and adult male winter midges, *Diamesa
> mendotae*.
>
> 11. Saguache, Saguache Co., Sun., Mar. 17. In a snow squall, an exuberant 
> *Cassin
> finch.*
>
> 12.  Como, Park Co., Sun., Mar. 17. In off-and-on overcast and sunshine,
> with bright glare in the deep snow, 3 *Hepburn rosy-finches,* 2 *nominate
> (tephrocotis) gray-crowned 

[cobirds] Re: Colorado Combined Yard List update

[Thomas Heinrich]

Now up to 389 species with the addition of Harris' Hawk, Zone-tailed Hawk,
Mexican Whip-poor-will, and Doug's Greater Sage Grouse.

Thanks to all who are contributing!

--Thomas

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 10:15 AM Thomas Heinrich 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> Just a quick update:
>
> Total species now: 385
>
> Total number of contributors: 60, make that 61 with Larry M
>
> Needs list total (see below): 135 species
>
> Still working on getting all who have contributed represented in the list.
> If you have any new species to add to the list, I'm happy to include them.
> I'll try to include those submitting species already listed from now
> forward, if I have time. Definitely have my hands full. But please keep
> posting--it's been really interesting and a lot of fun to read about
> everyone's experiences and to connect with others across the state (and out
> of state, as well).
>
> Thanks!
> Thomas
>
>
> Black-bellied Whistling-Duck
> Fulvous Whistling-Duck
> Pink-footed Goose
> Barnacle Goose
> Garganey
> Eurasian Wigeon
> Mexican Duck
> American Black Duck
> Mottled Duck
> Tufted Duck
> Harlequin Duck
> White-winged Scoter
> California Quail
> Ruffed Grouse
> White-tailed Ptarmigan
> Greater Sage-Grouse
> Gunnison Sage-Grouse
> Sharp-tailed Grouse
> Greater Prairie-Chicken
> Red-necked Grebe
> Groove-billed Ani
> Eastern Whip-poor-will
> Mexican Whip-poor-will
> Vaux's Swift
> King Rail
> Common Gallinule
> Purple Gallinule
> Yellow Rail
> Black Rail
> Limpkin
> Whooping Crane
> Black-bellied Plover
> American Golden-Plover
> Piping Plover
> Snowy Plover
> Eskimo Curlew
> Hudsonian Godwit
> Marbled Godwit
> Ruddy Turnstone
> Red Knot
> Ruff
> Sharp-tailed Sandpiper
> Curlew Sandpiper
> Dunlin
> Purple Sandpiper
> White-rumped Sandpiper
> Buff-breasted Sandpiper
> Semipalmated Sandpiper
> Short-billed Dowitcher
> Willet
> Red Phalarope
> Pomarine Jaeger
> Parasitic Jaeger
> Long-tailed Jaeger
> Long-billed Murrelet
> Ancient Murrelet
> Black-legged Kittiwake
> Ivory Gull
> Sabine's Gull
> Black-headed Gull
> Little Gull
> Ross's Gull
> Laughing Gull
> Short-billed Gull
> Western Gull
> Slaty-backed Gull
> Glaucous-winged Gull
> Kelp Gull
> Sooty Tern
> Least Tern
> Arctic Tern
> Royal Tern
> Sandwich Tern
> Black Skimmer
> Red-throated Loon
> Arctic Loon
> Pacific Loon
> Yellow-billed Loon
> Wood Stork
> Magnificent Frigatebird
> Brown Booby
> Neotropic Cormorant
> Brown Pelican
> Least Bittern
> Tricolored Heron
> Reddish Egret
> White Ibis
> Glossy Ibis
> Roseate Spoonbill
> Black Vulture
> White-tailed Kite
> Common Black Hawk
> Harris's Hawk
> Variable Hawk
> Red-shouldered Hawk
> Zone-tailed Hawk
> Snowy Owl
> Spotted Owl
> Barred Owl
> Red-breasted Sapsucker
> Crested Caracara
> Gyrfalcon
> Dusky-capped Flycatcher
> Brown-crested Flycatcher
> Sulphur-bellied Flycatcher
> Tropical Kingbird
> Couch's Kingbird
> Thick-billed Kingbird
> Fork-tailed Flycatcher
> Acadian Flycatcher
> Buff-breasted Flycatcher
> Gray Vireo
> Yellow-green Vireo
> Cave Swallow
> Cactus Wren
> Pacific Wren
> Sedge Wren
> Bendire's Thrasher
> Rufous-backed Robin
> Sprague's Pipit
> Cassia Crossbill
> Smith's Longspur
> Black-chinned Sparrow
> LeConte's Sparrow
> Nelson's Sparrow
> Baird's Sparrow
> Henslow's Sparrow
> Chihuahuan Meadowlark
> Louisiana Waterthrush
> Swainson's Warbler
> Lucy's Warbler
> Tropical Parula
> Grace's Warbler
> Golden-crowned Warbler
> Hepatic Tanager
>
>
>
> --
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> teheinr...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>


-- 
Thomas Heinrich
Boulder, CO
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[cobirds] Re: Flammulated Owl in yard

[tom none]

Since you are putting together a list I may be able to add a couple: one 
Harris's sparrow last winter and two this winter and one white-throated 
sparrow last fall. Not extraordinary but not common either.

On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 9:56:35 PM UTC-6 Leon Bright wrote:

>COBirders, since Mary Kay Waddington encouraged me, I have added 
> Flammulated Owl to Bryan Guarente’s list. I had the great pleasure to have 
> a mated pair fly in and perch on our cabin deck railing, about eight feet 
> from where I was sitting. I heard a soft vocalization and turned my head 
> slowly to see them clearly. After a few minutes they flew off into the 
> oncoming dusk. I was able to I.D. them easily since only a few days before 
> I had seen a Flam being rehabbed at the Pueblo Nature Center. This took 
> place in the summer of 1972 or ’73 at the end of Custer County Road 182R at 
> 9,200 ft.
>
> Leon Bright, Pueblo and Custer County
>

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[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

['Chris Petrizzo' via Colorado Birds]

Hello Thomas and everyone,

Thanks for the fun thread. I see that I can help you "tick off" one of the 
currently missing species: Tundra Swan. 
https://ebird.org/checklist/S61420925

I live on the edge of the Lac Amora Open Space in Broomfield at about 
5400’, and am fortunate to have a prairie dog colony outside my backyard, 
and am in close proximity to Stearns Lake in Boulder County, just to the 
north.

I’m a pretty dedicated yard lister, and in the 5 years I’ve been using 
eBird to keep my yard list, I’ve logged 130 species, including all three 
species of bluebirds, both shrikes, the four hummers, over a dozen species 
of sparrows, both waxwings, and just about all the diurnal raptors that 
typically occur in CO.

My most memorable yard bird was the time I looked outside to see what 
appeared to be a Redtail sitting on my back lawn. This was a bit strange, 
and as I stared at the bird, it became apparent it was too big to be a 
hawk, and I realized there was a Golden Eagle on my lawn. I took photos 
from the house at first, and then steeped outside, assuming it would fly 
away, but it did not. It became apparent the bird was injured, so I 
captured it (I used to volunteer for Birds of Prey Foundation), and brought 
it to Birds of Prey https://ebird.org/checklist/S165144647

Probably my rarest bird occurred when we had just returned from Australia, 
and I was sort of lamenting to my wife how in general, the birds in 
Colorado are so much less colorful than the ones we’d been seeing on our 
trip, when I looked out my living room window to see a male Scarlet Tanager 
in the yard. That was good fun. https://ebird.org/checklist/S56817229

Chris Petrizzo, Broomfield

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:40:41 AM UTC-6 Thomas Heinrich wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity 
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really 
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the 
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready 
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
> experience with yard-listing. 
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching, 
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods 
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, 
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of 
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe 
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, 
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive 
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian 
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks 
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> -- 
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> tehei...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>

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Re: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Gregg Goodrich]

Thomas

Great thread! Thanks for starting it. So fun to read about the birds seen 
from everyone’s yards. No new species for the list, but here are my 
highlights.

How long:  8 years

Style:  At least one eBird list everyday we are home.

Number:  100 species

Rarest:  Lewis’s Woodpecker, Spotted Sandpiper in creek, Cassin’s Kingbird, 
Rose-breasted Grosbeak

Memorable:  Bohemian Waxwings. After seeing them in several locations 
around the metro area the first of last year, they finally made it to our 
yard. I had six sightings from the yard between January 27, 2023 and 
February 7, 2023. The largest count was around 250. On a walk at the end of 
the block I had a yard with over 800.

Like Duane, I have had fun birds while shoveling the snow. Sandhill Cranes, 
Snow Geese and Peregrine Falcon flyovers.
 
Location: Our Highlands Ranch home’s back deck faces a riparian open space 
with a small creek.  5820’

Gregg Goodrich
Highlands Ranch in Douglas County

On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 10:17:47 AM UTC-6 Diana Beatty wrote:

> For people who are in to yard listing and/or citizen science, you might be 
> interested in a new gadget.
>
> I recently bought a haikubox.  This is a box you plug in to an external 
> outlet at your home and it constantly listens for birds and uses your wifi. 
> You use an app or website to see what it hears.  It records short intervals 
> and you can listen and verify accuracy .  It keeps ongoing data you can 
> download or track online.  It shares the data with Cornell Labs and the 
> haikubox network.
>
> Diana Beatty
> El Paso County
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 9:23 AM 'Norm Lewis' via Colorado Birds <
> cob...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> PPS- I should have read the directions a little morel closely- I would 
>> say I fall into the obsessed category- I keep 10-15 feeders active, 
>> depending upon the season, and have a semi-wild area on my back hill, as I 
>> live in a little valley and the upper back yard areas on the street are not 
>> developed, which gives me about an eighth of an acre of mixed trees and 
>> brush.
>>
>> Whew.  I think that's all!
>>
>> Norm
>>
>> On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 08:33:54 AM MDT, Thomas Heinrich <
>> tehei...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Another quick update on the lists. In addition to the 350 species on 
>> Google list that Bryan has set up, I have another 26 species from birders 
>> who have sent lists directly to me.
>>
>> So the current total # of species:  *376* 
>>
>> Getting close to 400!
>>
>> I hope to have the list I'm compiling wrapped up this weekend and off to 
>> Bryan to merge with his Google sheet. The list will include names and 
>> counties. Please let me know if you would prefer to remain anonymous. Also, 
>> if there is a particular species (or couple of species) that you ticked off 
>> on Bryan's list that you would like to have your name next to on the new 
>> list, please let me know. I'll be attempting to include all who have 
>> contributed to the list in an equitable way. 
>>
>> Thanks again to all who have shared and contributed,
>>
>> Thomas 
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:40 AM Thomas Heinrich  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity 
>> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
>> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really 
>> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 
>>
>> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
>> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
>> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the 
>> recent Brambling, too?)
>>
>> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready 
>> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
>> experience with yard-listing. 
>>
>> How long have you been keeping your list?
>> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching, 
>> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
>> How many species?
>> Rarest, or favorite species?
>> Most memorable experience?
>> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>>
>> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
>> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>>
>> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
>> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods 
>> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, 
>> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of 
>> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe 
>> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, 
>> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>>
>> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>>
>> --Thomas Heinrich
>>
>>
>> *My answers to the questions 

[cobirds] Re: Needs List for COBirds Aggregated Yard Lists

[Thomas Heinrich]

Hi all,
The list keeps growing!  Now with Vermilion Flycatcher, Lesser Nighthawk,
and White-eyed Vireo we're up to *382.  *

I would like to apologize for any confusion related to my RFI about the
Black-chinned Sparrow. I should have been more specific about which
sighting I was referring to.  The report is 2010-115 from La Plata county.
If anyone has any more specific information on this sighting they could
share, that would be great. But I definitely want to avoid any sense of
prying or not respecting privacy.

Thanks again, and sorry for any confusion.

Sincerely,
Thomas


On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 10:30 AM Thomas Heinrich 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> For those interested, I thought I would share this list of species not yet
> ticked on the aggregate yard list. Many fall into the category of "yeah,
> right."  But, still a lot of potential.
>
> There are a few species I am wondering about for various reasons.
>
> *Little Gull*: Found in a pond in Pinery, (near or part of Parker,
> Douglas Cty, I believe) in November, 2004. As I recall, there were houses
> lining, or somewhat close to this pond.
>
> *Snowy Owl*: seen on many houses near Standley Lake< Jefferson Cty, in
> December 2017, so likely to be on someone's yard list.
>
> *Red-breasted Sapsucker*: Seen in the Broadmoor golf course and
> surrounding yards.
>
> *Gyrfalcon*: wintering in Larimer Cty several years near the landfill off
> of S Taft Hill Rd. There is a neighborhood just to the east of the fields
> on the east side of Taft Hill.
>
> *Black-chinned Sparrow*:  One report on the CBRC page has the location of
> sighting listed as "Private Property."  It's not clear whether the birds
> were found by a landowner, or whether it was a yard or, more likely, part
> of an undeveloped large parcel or property.
>
>
> The following sightings have been added to Bryan's list, but were not sent
> to me directly, so have no names or counties associated with them. It would
> be great to be able to include those details. Please feel free to email me
> directly, or once the lists have been merged fill in the appropriate slots.
>
> Lesser Black-backed Gull
> American Bittern
> Acorn Woodpecker
>
>
> Species total is now *378*
>
>
> Thanks to all who are contributing!
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> teheinr...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>


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Re: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Diana Beatty]

For people who are in to yard listing and/or citizen science, you might be
interested in a new gadget.

I recently bought a haikubox.  This is a box you plug in to an external
outlet at your home and it constantly listens for birds and uses your wifi.
You use an app or website to see what it hears.  It records short intervals
and you can listen and verify accuracy .  It keeps ongoing data you can
download or track online.  It shares the data with Cornell Labs and the
haikubox network.

Diana Beatty
El Paso County

On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 9:23 AM 'Norm Lewis' via Colorado Birds <
cobirds@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> PPS- I should have read the directions a little morel closely- I would say
> I fall into the obsessed category- I keep 10-15 feeders active, depending
> upon the season, and have a semi-wild area on my back hill, as I live in a
> little valley and the upper back yard areas on the street are not
> developed, which gives me about an eighth of an acre of mixed trees and
> brush.
>
> Whew.  I think that's all!
>
> Norm
>
> On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 08:33:54 AM MDT, Thomas Heinrich <
> teheinr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
> Another quick update on the lists. In addition to the 350 species on
> Google list that Bryan has set up, I have another 26 species from birders
> who have sent lists directly to me.
>
> So the current total # of species:  *376*
>
> Getting close to 400!
>
> I hope to have the list I'm compiling wrapped up this weekend and off to
> Bryan to merge with his Google sheet. The list will include names and
> counties. Please let me know if you would prefer to remain anonymous. Also,
> if there is a particular species (or couple of species) that you ticked off
> on Bryan's list that you would like to have your name next to on the new
> list, please let me know. I'll be attempting to include all who have
> contributed to the list in an equitable way.
>
> Thanks again to all who have shared and contributed,
>
> Thomas
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:40 AM Thomas Heinrich 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's).
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher,
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others'
> experience with yard-listing.
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching,
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented;
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir,
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger,
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> --
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> teheinr...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>
>
>
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Re: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

['Norm Lewis' via Colorado Birds]

 PPS- I should have read the directions a little morel closely- I would say I 
fall into the obsessed category- I keep 10-15 feeders active, depending upon 
the season, and have a semi-wild area on my back hill, as I live in a little 
valley and the upper back yard areas on the street are not developed, which 
gives me about an eighth of an acre of mixed trees and brush.
Whew.  I think that's all!
Norm
On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 08:33:54 AM MDT, Thomas Heinrich 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi all,Another quick update on the lists. In addition to the 350 species on 
Google list that Bryan has set up, I have another 26 species from birders who 
have sent lists directly to me.
So the current total # of species:  376 

Getting close to 400!
I hope to have the list I'm compiling wrapped up this weekend and off to Bryan 
to merge with his Google sheet. The list will include names and counties. 
Please let me know if you would prefer to remain anonymous. Also, if there is a 
particular species (or couple of species) that you ticked off on Bryan's list 
that you would like to have your name next to on the new list, please let me 
know. I'll be attempting to include all who have contributed to the list in an 
equitable way. 
Thanks again to all who have shared and contributed,
Thomas 
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:40 AM Thomas Heinrich  wrote:

Hi all,
Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity or 
new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really impressive 
(e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 
Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the recent 
Brambling, too?)

As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready when 
outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
experience with yard-listing. 

How long have you been keeping your list?What's your style of yard listing: 
casual, mainly feeder watching, moderate, dedicated, obsessed?How many species?
Rarest, or favorite species?Most memorable experience?Location/habitat: urban, 
suburban, rural, etc?
And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
Colorado's 520 species could we get?
It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods lining 
bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, Jackson 
Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of those species 
theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe some lucky person 
living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, Slaty-backed Gull, 
and Garganey on their yard list!
Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
--Thomas Heinrich

My answers to the questions above:15 yearsDedicated to obsessive 152 
speciesWood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, 
Bohemian WaxwingWatching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 
Broad-winged Hawks among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day 
(4/18/2020)Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 
5600'
-- 
Thomas Heinrich
Boulder, CO
teheinr...@gmail.com
www.pbase.com/birdercellist


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Re: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

['Norm Lewis' via Colorado Birds]

 PS- my yard list dates to 1988.
Norm
On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 08:33:54 AM MDT, Thomas Heinrich 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi all,Another quick update on the lists. In addition to the 350 species on 
Google list that Bryan has set up, I have another 26 species from birders who 
have sent lists directly to me.
So the current total # of species:  376 

Getting close to 400!
I hope to have the list I'm compiling wrapped up this weekend and off to Bryan 
to merge with his Google sheet. The list will include names and counties. 
Please let me know if you would prefer to remain anonymous. Also, if there is a 
particular species (or couple of species) that you ticked off on Bryan's list 
that you would like to have your name next to on the new list, please let me 
know. I'll be attempting to include all who have contributed to the list in an 
equitable way. 
Thanks again to all who have shared and contributed,
Thomas 
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:40 AM Thomas Heinrich  wrote:

Hi all,
Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity or 
new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really impressive 
(e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 
Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the recent 
Brambling, too?)

As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready when 
outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
experience with yard-listing. 

How long have you been keeping your list?What's your style of yard listing: 
casual, mainly feeder watching, moderate, dedicated, obsessed?How many species?
Rarest, or favorite species?Most memorable experience?Location/habitat: urban, 
suburban, rural, etc?
And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
Colorado's 520 species could we get?
It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods lining 
bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, Jackson 
Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of those species 
theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe some lucky person 
living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, Slaty-backed Gull, 
and Garganey on their yard list!
Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
--Thomas Heinrich

My answers to the questions above:15 yearsDedicated to obsessive 152 
speciesWood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, 
Bohemian WaxwingWatching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 
Broad-winged Hawks among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day 
(4/18/2020)Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 
5600'
-- 
Thomas Heinrich
Boulder, CO
teheinr...@gmail.com
www.pbase.com/birdercellist


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Re: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

['Norm Lewis' via Colorado Birds]

 Good morning Thomas - In my yard, located on the north side of Green Mountain 
in Lakewood, I have seen 133 species.  By far the most notable was a bronzed 
cowbird.  This bird appeared at a neighbor's feeders in June of 1990, and 
stayed at that location (about a mile from my house) long enough for many 
birders to see it.  To my surprise, one morning it showed up at my feeders, but 
did not linger long.  Other birds that are unusual, either because of season or 
geography, included juniper titmouse, band-tailed pigeon (which I found 
roosting on my back step on a frigid winter morning), orchard oriole, canyon 
wren, common poorwill, purple finch, red crossbill, all three rosy-finches, 
northern shrike, red-naped sapsucker, eastern screech/northern pygmy/saw-whet 
owls, indigo bunting, Carolina wren, brown thrasher and summer tanager.The most 
interesting event observed in the yard was a northern shrike killing a 
rosy-finch and stashing it in a lilac bush.
Thanks for the interesting project!
Norm LewisLakewood 
On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 08:33:54 AM MDT, Thomas Heinrich 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi all,Another quick update on the lists. In addition to the 350 species on 
Google list that Bryan has set up, I have another 26 species from birders who 
have sent lists directly to me.
So the current total # of species:  376 

Getting close to 400!
I hope to have the list I'm compiling wrapped up this weekend and off to Bryan 
to merge with his Google sheet. The list will include names and counties. 
Please let me know if you would prefer to remain anonymous. Also, if there is a 
particular species (or couple of species) that you ticked off on Bryan's list 
that you would like to have your name next to on the new list, please let me 
know. I'll be attempting to include all who have contributed to the list in an 
equitable way. 
Thanks again to all who have shared and contributed,
Thomas 
On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:40 AM Thomas Heinrich  wrote:

Hi all,
Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity or 
new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really impressive 
(e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 
Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the recent 
Brambling, too?)

As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready when 
outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
experience with yard-listing. 

How long have you been keeping your list?What's your style of yard listing: 
casual, mainly feeder watching, moderate, dedicated, obsessed?How many species?
Rarest, or favorite species?Most memorable experience?Location/habitat: urban, 
suburban, rural, etc?
And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
Colorado's 520 species could we get?
It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods lining 
bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, Jackson 
Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of those species 
theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe some lucky person 
living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, Slaty-backed Gull, 
and Garganey on their yard list!
Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
--Thomas Heinrich

My answers to the questions above:15 yearsDedicated to obsessive 152 
speciesWood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, 
Bohemian WaxwingWatching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 
Broad-winged Hawks among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day 
(4/18/2020)Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 
5600'
-- 
Thomas Heinrich
Boulder, CO
teheinr...@gmail.com
www.pbase.com/birdercellist


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[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Thomas Heinrich]

Hi all,
Another quick update on the lists. In addition to the 350 species on Google
list that Bryan has set up, I have another 26 species from birders who have
sent lists directly to me.

So the current total # of species:  *376*

Getting close to 400!

I hope to have the list I'm compiling wrapped up this weekend and off to
Bryan to merge with his Google sheet. The list will include names and
counties. Please let me know if you would prefer to remain anonymous. Also,
if there is a particular species (or couple of species) that you ticked off
on Bryan's list that you would like to have your name next to on the new
list, please let me know. I'll be attempting to include all who have
contributed to the list in an equitable way.

Thanks again to all who have shared and contributed,

Thomas

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:40 AM Thomas Heinrich 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's).
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher,
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others'
> experience with yard-listing.
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching,
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented;
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir,
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger,
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> --
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> teheinr...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>


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Re: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[linda hodges]

Jason, what marvelous experiences you must have had on your Paonia-area
farm (a special part of CO, in my opinion.)

Thank you for sharing your list, and especially for the work you did to
vegetate the area along the river.
And also for alerting me/us to the YBCU moniker of Rain Crow. That was news
to me.

Black Swifts, mountain lions and river otters, oh my!
Linda

*Linda Hodges*

*Colorado Springs*



On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:54 AM Jason Beason 
wrote:

> Very interesting discussion! Thank you Mr. Heinrich for initiating this!
>
> My family and I lived near Paonia for 13 years (2004-2017) in Delta
> County. My list is all historical information since I moved to Wyoming. We
> owned 10 acres that crossed the North Fork of the Gunnison River at the
> northwest corner of the property at approximately 5500' elevation. Lots of
> large cottonwood trees (narrowleaf, Fremont, and hybrids) and dense
> understory of buffalo berry, box elder, willow etc along the river. Also, a
> small marsh and beaver pond where we saw River Otters a couple times. I
> received a grant to plant one acre of shrubs along the river which was fun
> to watch grow during the years we were there.
>
> Dedicated birding
> 192 species
> Lots of favorites and some rare (in order most recent to oldest):
>
> Favorite: We managed a profitable small farm (everything we grew was
> legal!) with five greenhouses that we built ourselves named Rain Crow Farm
> after the Yellow-billed Cuckoo. We heard and saw cuckoos frequently during
> the summer months and I eventually was able to start a small project when I
> worked for Rocky Mountain Bird Observatory/Bird Conservancy of the Rockies
> conducting surveys on the west slope of Colorado. We were lucky to confirm
> breeding near Hotchkiss and found an active nest in 2008. The species was
> listed as "threatened" by the USFWS west of the continental divide in 2014.
>
> Rare or unusual species list:
> Magnolia Warbler
> Common Ground Dove (6th state record)
> Nashville Warbler
> Black Phoebe
> Yellow-bellied Sapsucker
> Long-billed Curlew
> Bohemian Waxwing (irruption winter of 2013)
> Common Redpoll (irruption winter of 2012)
> American Goshawk
> Canada Jay (unusual away from spruce-fir habitat)
> Indigo Bunting
> White-winged Dove
> Northern Pygmy-Owl
> Black-and-white Warbler
> Eastern Bluebird
> Juniper Titmouse (lots of PJ nearby)
> Willow Flycatcher
> Gray Flycatcher
> Yellow-throated Vireo
> Black-throated Gray Warbler
> Sage Thrasher
> Harris's Sparrow
> Virginia Rail
> Pinyon Jay
> Rose-breasted Grosbeak
> Cassin's Vireo
> Purple Martin (breed on Grand Mesa nearby)
> Black Swift
> Brown-capped Rosy-Finch
> American Dipper
> Bewick's Wren
> Black-crowned Night Heron
> Bobolink
> Lark Bunting
> Gray-crowned Rosy-Finch
> White-throated Sparrow
> Pygmy Nuthatch
> Swamp Sparrow
> American Redstart
> Dickcissel (not sure how many west slope records there are but one was
> singing a couple days in June of 2006 near our pasture)
> Band-tailed Pigeon (flocks would fly over the river often)
> Green Heron
> Lewis's Woodpecker (not at all rare in this area, bred in my front yard
> most years we were there)
> Olive-sided Flycatcher
> Barn Owl
> Ash-throated Flycatcher
>
> Mammals: Mountain Lion (killed a couple of our goats and I saw one once
> while birding along the river), River Otter, Mink, Black Bear (killed many
> of our and neighbors chickens)
>
> Most memorable experience?
> Seeing and hearing a Vaux's Swift on 5/3/2007 near the river. No photo or
> recording was obtained so the record was not accepted by CBRC.
>
> Good Birding!
> Jason Beason
> (Currently in Lander, WY where my yard list is up to 129 species!)
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 1:02 PM Jeff Kehoe  wrote:
>
>> I'm in Larimer County on the Big Thompson River.
>>
>> 7 years
>> moderate birder - lots of feeders year round
>> 83 species
>> most memorable - wave of migrating Western Tanagers in May stopped by a
>> snowstorm
>> foothills riparian  habitat - 1 acre
>>
>> Some Favorites - always hard
>> ---
>> American Dipper - regular visitor
>> Rose-breasted Grosbeak
>> Evening Grosbeak
>> Red Crossbill
>> Indigo Bunting
>> Green-tailed Towhee
>> Red-headed Woodpecker
>> Great Egret
>> Canyon Wren - picking bugs from spider webs on the porch
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:40:41 AM UTC-6 Thomas Heinrich wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a
>>> rarity or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment
>>> on local trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really
>>> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's).
>>>
>>> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed
>>> Thrasher, Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come
>>> to mind as rarities that have shown up in or been observed from
>>> yards. (Perhaps the recent Brambling, too?)
>>>
>>> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. 

Re: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Jason Beason]

Very interesting discussion! Thank you Mr. Heinrich for initiating this!

My family and I lived near Paonia for 13 years (2004-2017) in Delta County.
My list is all historical information since I moved to Wyoming. We owned 10
acres that crossed the North Fork of the Gunnison River at the northwest
corner of the property at approximately 5500' elevation. Lots of large
cottonwood trees (narrowleaf, Fremont, and hybrids) and dense understory of
buffalo berry, box elder, willow etc along the river. Also, a small marsh
and beaver pond where we saw River Otters a couple times. I received a
grant to plant one acre of shrubs along the river which was fun to watch
grow during the years we were there.

Dedicated birding
192 species
Lots of favorites and some rare (in order most recent to oldest):

Favorite: We managed a profitable small farm (everything we grew was
legal!) with five greenhouses that we built ourselves named Rain Crow Farm
after the Yellow-billed Cuckoo. We heard and saw cuckoos frequently during
the summer months and I eventually was able to start a small project when I
worked for Rocky Mountain Bird Observatory/Bird Conservancy of the Rockies
conducting surveys on the west slope of Colorado. We were lucky to confirm
breeding near Hotchkiss and found an active nest in 2008. The species was
listed as "threatened" by the USFWS west of the continental divide in 2014.

Rare or unusual species list:
Magnolia Warbler
Common Ground Dove (6th state record)
Nashville Warbler
Black Phoebe
Yellow-bellied Sapsucker
Long-billed Curlew
Bohemian Waxwing (irruption winter of 2013)
Common Redpoll (irruption winter of 2012)
American Goshawk
Canada Jay (unusual away from spruce-fir habitat)
Indigo Bunting
White-winged Dove
Northern Pygmy-Owl
Black-and-white Warbler
Eastern Bluebird
Juniper Titmouse (lots of PJ nearby)
Willow Flycatcher
Gray Flycatcher
Yellow-throated Vireo
Black-throated Gray Warbler
Sage Thrasher
Harris's Sparrow
Virginia Rail
Pinyon Jay
Rose-breasted Grosbeak
Cassin's Vireo
Purple Martin (breed on Grand Mesa nearby)
Black Swift
Brown-capped Rosy-Finch
American Dipper
Bewick's Wren
Black-crowned Night Heron
Bobolink
Lark Bunting
Gray-crowned Rosy-Finch
White-throated Sparrow
Pygmy Nuthatch
Swamp Sparrow
American Redstart
Dickcissel (not sure how many west slope records there are but one was
singing a couple days in June of 2006 near our pasture)
Band-tailed Pigeon (flocks would fly over the river often)
Green Heron
Lewis's Woodpecker (not at all rare in this area, bred in my front yard
most years we were there)
Olive-sided Flycatcher
Barn Owl
Ash-throated Flycatcher

Mammals: Mountain Lion (killed a couple of our goats and I saw one once
while birding along the river), River Otter, Mink, Black Bear (killed many
of our and neighbors chickens)

Most memorable experience?
Seeing and hearing a Vaux's Swift on 5/3/2007 near the river. No photo or
recording was obtained so the record was not accepted by CBRC.

Good Birding!
Jason Beason
(Currently in Lander, WY where my yard list is up to 129 species!)


On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 1:02 PM Jeff Kehoe  wrote:

> I'm in Larimer County on the Big Thompson River.
>
> 7 years
> moderate birder - lots of feeders year round
> 83 species
> most memorable - wave of migrating Western Tanagers in May stopped by a
> snowstorm
> foothills riparian  habitat - 1 acre
>
> Some Favorites - always hard
> ---
> American Dipper - regular visitor
> Rose-breasted Grosbeak
> Evening Grosbeak
> Red Crossbill
> Indigo Bunting
> Green-tailed Towhee
> Red-headed Woodpecker
> Great Egret
> Canyon Wren - picking bugs from spider webs on the porch
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:40:41 AM UTC-6 Thomas Heinrich wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity
>> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local
>> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really
>> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's).
>>
>> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher,
>> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as
>> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the
>> recent Brambling, too?)
>>
>> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready
>> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others'
>> experience with yard-listing.
>>
>> How long have you been keeping your list?
>> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching,
>> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
>> How many species?
>> Rarest, or favorite species?
>> Most memorable experience?
>> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>>
>> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to
>> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>>
>> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented;
>> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. 

[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Jeff Kehoe]

I'm in Larimer County on the Big Thompson River.

7 years
moderate birder - lots of feeders year round
83 species
most memorable - wave of migrating Western Tanagers in May stopped by a 
snowstorm
foothills riparian  habitat - 1 acre

Some Favorites - always hard
---
American Dipper - regular visitor
Rose-breasted Grosbeak
Evening Grosbeak
Red Crossbill
Indigo Bunting
Green-tailed Towhee
Red-headed Woodpecker
Great Egret
Canyon Wren - picking bugs from spider webs on the porch

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:40:41 AM UTC-6 Thomas Heinrich wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity 
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really 
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the 
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready 
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
> experience with yard-listing. 
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching, 
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods 
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, 
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of 
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe 
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, 
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive 
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian 
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks 
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> -- 
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> tehei...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>

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[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[mvjo...@gmail.com]

Hey Thomas and all. A fun exercise for us dedicated yard watchers. 
28 years of watching
163 species currently
Prairie Warbler
Palm Warbler
Long-eared Owl
Black throated Sparrow
Bobolink
Long-billed Curlew

We own our property south of Monte Vista and not far from the Refuge. Our 
backyard BIG DAY is 38 species. 

We now add one just every few years. Latest were 2 Blue jays. 

Lots of fun to look back!

John Rawinski
Monte Vista, CO

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:40:41 AM UTC-6 Thomas Heinrich wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity 
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really 
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the 
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready 
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
> experience with yard-listing. 
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching, 
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods 
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, 
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of 
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe 
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, 
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive 
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian 
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks 
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> -- 
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> tehei...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>

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[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Thomas Heinrich]

Hi all,
Getting a little carried away here, but I thought I'd write a quick update
before getting some rest. (Hoping for a snow day tomorrow and a canceled
rehearsal :-).

I spent several hours this evening mining for data on the CBRC pages on
CFO's website (what a great resource, special thanks to Peter Gent, and
others as well, certainly) and also on eBird. There's more to be found I'm
sure, but another day...

The species total stands at *369*, or roughly 71% of the species recorded
in Colorado.

A couple of ideas occurred to me while preparing the list to be merged with
Bryan's community-generated or crowd-sourced Google doc.
One is the potential desire for anonymity. I have been gathering only 3
sets of data in addition to the species: name of the lister (or property
owner), city, and county. If anyone would like to remain anonymous, please
let me know. I can change the entry to read: "homeowner".

I think it would be nice to include as many of us in the list (as viewers)
as possible, because it really is a community effort. I'll do my best to
make sure all who have contributed by submitting lists, or replied to this
thread have at least several species entries.

I decided not to try to add dates for each sighting in an effort to keep it
simple.

If you have any suggestions, feel free to email me. I'll send out a list of
species not yet ticked, in case that might be useful. Still trying to get
around to replying to all directly, but it might be a few days yet.

Thanks again to all who have contributed!

Sincerely,
Thomas

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:40 AM Thomas Heinrich 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's).
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher,
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others'
> experience with yard-listing.
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching,
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented;
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir,
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger,
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> --
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> teheinr...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>


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www.pbase.com/birdercellist

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[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Chuck Aid]

14 yrs
Moderate
99 spp
BTPI, SACR, CONI, WESO, ATTW, PEFA, PIJA, CLNU, PIGR, GCRF, BCRF, WWCR
NOGO spiral-chasing a pine squirrel up a Doug-fir; nesting SSHA, NOPO, and 
ATTW (weeks of good entertainment)
Densely forested Doug-fir/lodgepole with some pondersosa on a north-facing 
slope at 7800 ft (small scattering of aspen).  About a quarter of a mlle 
from Cub Creek, south of Evergreen.  Smaller, nearby ephemeral drainage 
about 150’ from my house has some blue spruce and larger aspen.

Chuck Aid
Evergreen, CO

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:40:41 AM UTC-6 Thomas Heinrich wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity 
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really 
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the 
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready 
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
> experience with yard-listing. 
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching, 
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods 
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, 
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of 
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe 
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, 
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive 
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian 
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks 
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> -- 
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> tehei...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>

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[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Thomas Heinrich]

Hi all,
Just wanted to give a quick update on the list, which now stands at 323
species. Thanks to everyone who's shared their lists and contributed to
this thread.

Bryan has very kindly offered to merge the two lists (the Google docs with
the Excel spreadsheet I've been using). Hope to have it ready very soon.

Thanks again, looking forward to seeing how this all develops, and glad so
many are enjoying it,
Thomas

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:40 AM Thomas Heinrich 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's).
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher,
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others'
> experience with yard-listing.
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching,
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented;
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir,
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger,
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> --
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> teheinr...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>


-- 
Thomas Heinrich
Boulder, CO
teheinr...@gmail.com
www.pbase.com/birdercellist

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[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[tom none]

I am a recent Colorado immigrant (two years in west Loveland) so my yard 
list is not impressive at 128.  I have , however, had a few high points.  *Best 
diversity day* - 34 spp; *best bird* - 100 -125 pinyon jays visiting almost 
daily, typically 2 or 3 times/day; *favorite bird* - bushtit; *most 
memorable day* - had pinyon jay, blue jay, Steller's jay and scrub jay in 
view at the same time; *best season - *had 40-50 evening grosbeaks, 100+ 
Cassin's finches, and the pinyon jays around all of last winter (sometime 
all three times at once) 

Have fun,
Tom Curtis
On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:40:41 AM UTC-6 Thomas Heinrich wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity 
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really 
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the 
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready 
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
> experience with yard-listing. 
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching, 
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods 
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, 
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of 
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe 
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, 
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive 
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian 
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks 
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> -- 
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> tehei...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>

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[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Thomas Heinrich]

Hi all,
Thanks so much to all who have replied and shared your yard birding
experiences! It's truly fascinating and fun to read about.

I've been replying individually (still have several to get to), but just
wanted to write a quick update.

I've put together an Excel spreadsheet to tally the data in one place
(species, viewer, location). Maybe a google doc accessible to all would be
more efficient, but I'm not very tech savvy, so don't know if that might be
problematic.

So far, our combined yard list total: 234 species

If any of you would like to forward full yard lists to me (if your yard
list is a personal thing, anonymity can be guaranteed :-), I'd be happy to
include it in the overall list, particularly waterfowl, gulls, shorebirds,
and warblers which, not surprisingly, are pretty sparsely represented.
Also any lists from the Western Slope or far corners of the state would be
great to include.

Thanks again!

Thomas




On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 10:40 AM Thomas Heinrich 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's).
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher,
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others'
> experience with yard-listing.
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching,
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented;
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir,
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger,
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> --
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> teheinr...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>


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Re: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Kyle Carlsen]

Fun discussion! My apartment doesn’t have a yard, per se, but I have been 
keeping a balcony list since I moved into my current place last summer.

How long? About 8 months

Style? Moderate

How many? 51 species

Favorites? Snow Goose, Sandhill Crane, Bushtit, Townsend’s Solitaire, Lincoln’s 
Sparrow

Memorable experience? Nothing too crazy yet, but hawk watching during fall 
migration was fun, with 8 species in one hour one afternoon in October.

Habitat/location? Mostly suburban in southwestern Weld County.

Kyle Carlsen
Erie, CO

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[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Caleb A]

Love this discussion, Thomas! I started birding before I had a car, so yard 
birding has a dear place in my heart.

I've been yard-listing for around 6 years in Larimer County. I was very 
obsessed with birding in my yard for the first 3 years, submitting up to 4 
complete checklists a day during migrations. I have had to resort to more 
casual yard-listing since I started my UG. I am pretty happy with the 81 
species on my Timnath yard list, especially considering how it is not in 
the "birdiest" of locations. I've had some fun Larimer birds: SUTA, CORE, 
PUFI, TOWA, BWWA, CAKI, HOWA, CATE. One of the most memorable experiences 
was when I finally, after two months of taping nocturnal audio in the 
summer, got a Barn Owl screaming while sitting out on my driveway. The 
Hooded Warbler was my first yard rarity, and I remember having Nick Komar 
and Joe Kipper come over to see it. The Common Redpoll was another fun one 
that Josh Bruening and Joe Kipper got to pick up as well. I'm in the middle 
of the Summerfields Estates subdivision, so again, not super birdy, but 
there have been some miracles. I also took my yard birding to silly 
extents, setting up a scope on the patio and scoping as far out to the 
foothills as possible to catch raptors and a few other large species that I 
would have otherwise not gotten. Ultimately, yard-listing taught me a lot 
about birding that I take outside the yard: *bird every bird. Bird every 
common bird.* Bird until every bird seems boring, because nothing has 
prepared me more for recognizing and finding rarities than the hundreds of 
hours I've spent birding the expected species. I've also gotten to see some 
really neat behavioral phenomena, and the cherry on top is that I didn't 
have to spend any gas money. ;)

Happy birding, everyone!
 - CSA

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RE: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[adrianlakin1]

How long: About 18 years

Style: moderate

Species count: 117

Notable species: Common Poorwill, Red Crossbill, Brown Thrasher, Cassin’s 
Kingbird, Calliope Hummingbird. Also Greater white-fronted Goose, Snow Goose 
and Ross’s Goose feeding in the farm fields directly behind my house.

Most memorable: The Common Poorwill was flushed by my dog into a neighbor’s 
yard, so I ran next door to find it sitting under one of his pine trees, but it 
flushed again before I could get a photo.

Location: SW Weld county – arable farmland

 

Adrian Lakin

Mead

 

From: cobirds@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lauren 
Hyde
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 12:18 PM
To: Dan Stringer 
Cc: Colorado Birds 
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species 
have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

 

Length: About 30 years

Style: casual but attentive

# of species: 145

Birds of interest: Lewis’s woodpecker, Lawrence’s goldfinch, Mississippi kite, 
Virginia rail

Most memorable sighting: 4 species of hummers (calliope, rufous, black-chinned, 
and broad-tailed) in one tree all at the same tune, a sage thrasher jumping up 
repeatedly to snatch rose hips of a wild rose bush

Location: southern Weld County

 

Lauren Hyde

Keenesburg





On Mar 11, 2024, at 12:01 PM, 'Dan Stringer' via Colorado Birds 
mailto:cobirds@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I liked your post, Thomas, and I love the notables on your yard list. My 
answers to your questions are:

 

How long: 

14 years.

 

Style: 

Casual but attentive. When the same bear started returning to my feeders daily, 
I took them down for my neighbor's sake and the bear's safety. Lower numbers 
and variety since then, still highly interesting.

 

How many species: 90

 

Rarest, or favorite species: 

American Three-toed Woodpecker. Surprising, lower than 7000' and this far east 
(just west of Larkspur), but I've since seen them and documented breeding in 
nearby Sandstone Ranch where I do surveys. Steep, forested foothills behind my 
neighborhood have brought many species down that are typically at higher 
elevations.

 

Most memorable experience: A male American Goshawk in winter, pursuing a 
squirrel up, down, and around the trees. It was unsuccessful, in close quarters 
the squirrel looked to be far more in it's element.

 

Location/habitat: At base of foothills, 6850', ponderosa pine / gambel oak.

 

Dan Stringer

Larkspur, CO

 

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:40:41 AM UTC-6 Thomas Heinrich wrote:

Hi all,

 

Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity or 
new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really impressive 
(e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 

 

Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the recent 
Brambling, too?)

 

As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready when 
outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
experience with yard-listing. 

 

How long have you been keeping your list?

What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching, moderate, 
dedicated, obsessed?

How many species?

Rarest, or favorite species?

Most memorable experience?

Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?

 

And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
Colorado's 520 species could we get?

 

It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods lining 
bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, Jackson 
Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of those species 
theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe some lucky person 
living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, Slaty-backed Gull, 
and Garganey on their yard list!

 

Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!

 

--Thomas Heinrich

 

 

My answers to the questions above:

15 years

Dedicated to obsessive 

152 species

Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian 
Waxwing

Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks among 
130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)

Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'

 

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Boulder, CO
tehei...@gmail.com
www.pbase.com/birdercellist <http://www.pbase.com/birdercellist> 

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Re: [cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

[Lauren Hyde]

Length: About 30 yearsStyle: casual but attentive# of species: 145Birds of interest: Lewis’s woodpecker, Lawrence’s goldfinch, Mississippi kite, Virginia railMost memorable sighting: 4 species of hummers (calliope, rufous, black-chinned, and broad-tailed) in one tree all at the same tune, a sage thrasher jumping up repeatedly to snatch rose hips of a wild rose bushLocation: southern Weld CountyLauren HydeKeenesburgOn Mar 11, 2024, at 12:01 PM, 'Dan Stringer' via Colorado Birds  wrote:I liked your post, Thomas, and I love the notables on your yard list. My answers to your questions are:How long: 14 years.Style: Casual but attentive. When the same bear started returning to my feeders daily, I took them down for my neighbor's sake and the bear's safety. Lower numbers and variety since then, still highly interesting.How many species: 90Rarest, or favorite species: American Three-toed Woodpecker. Surprising, lower than 7000' and this far east (just west of Larkspur), but I've since seen them and documented breeding in nearby Sandstone Ranch where I do surveys. Steep, forested foothills behind my neighborhood have brought many species down that are typically at higher elevations.Most memorable experience: A male American Goshawk in winter, pursuing a squirrel up, down, and around the trees. It was unsuccessful, in close quarters the squirrel looked to be far more in it's element.Location/habitat: At base of foothills, 6850', ponderosa pine / gambel oak.Dan StringerLarkspur, COOn Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:40:41 AM UTC-6 Thomas Heinrich wrote:Hi all,Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the recent Brambling, too?)As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' experience with yard-listing. How long have you been keeping your list?What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching, moderate, dedicated, obsessed?How many species?Rarest, or favorite species?Most memorable experience?Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to Colorado's 520 species could we get?It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!--Thomas HeinrichMy answers to the questions above:15 yearsDedicated to obsessive 152 speciesWood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian WaxwingWatching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'-- Thomas HeinrichBoulder, COtehei...@gmail.comwww.pbase.com/birdercellist




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[cobirds] Re: Yard list questions: How many of CO's 520 species have been seen (or heard) from a yard?

['Dan Stringer' via Colorado Birds]

I liked your post, Thomas, and I love the notables on your yard list. My 
answers to your questions are:

How long: 
14 years.

Style: 
Casual but attentive. When the same bear started returning to my feeders 
daily, I took them down for my neighbor's sake and the bear's safety. Lower 
numbers and variety since then, still highly interesting.

How many species: 90

Rarest, or favorite species: 
American Three-toed Woodpecker. Surprising, lower than 7000' and this far 
east (just west of Larkspur), but I've since seen them and documented 
breeding in nearby Sandstone Ranch where I do surveys. Steep, forested 
foothills behind my neighborhood have brought many species down that are 
typically at higher elevations.

Most memorable experience: A male American Goshawk in winter, pursuing a 
squirrel up, down, and around the trees. It was unsuccessful, in close 
quarters the squirrel looked to be far more in it's element.

Location/habitat: At base of foothills, 6850', ponderosa pine / gambel oak.

Dan Stringer
Larkspur, CO

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:40:41 AM UTC-6 Thomas Heinrich wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Every now and then one of us will share the excitement of adding a rarity 
> or new species to a yard list, report yard list totals, or comment on local 
> trends. And some of the lists, and variety of species, are really 
> impressive (e.g. David Suddjian's, Gary Lefko's). 
>
> Yellow Grosbeak, Pyrrhuloxia, Streak-backed Oriole, Long-billed Thrasher, 
> Costa's Hummingbird, Laurence's Goldfinch, and even Anhinga come to mind as 
> rarities that have shown up in or been observed from yards. (Perhaps the 
> recent Brambling, too?)
>
> As a pretty obsessive yard lister (i.e. binocs always on, camera ready 
> when outdoors, much of the time indoors too), I often wonder about others' 
> experience with yard-listing. 
>
> How long have you been keeping your list?
> What's your style of yard listing: casual, mainly feeder watching, 
> moderate, dedicated, obsessed?
> How many species?
> Rarest, or favorite species?
> Most memorable experience?
> Location/habitat: urban, suburban, rural, etc?
>
> And the big question: if we tallied up all our yard lists, how close to 
> Colorado's 520 species could we get?
>
> It seems likely that certain families would be less well-represented; 
> shorebirds, waterfowl, and gulls, for example. But with neighborhoods 
> lining bodies of water such as Boyd Lake, Lake Loveland, Marston Reservoir, 
> Jackson Lake, and MacIntosh Lake (in Boulder), among many others, many of 
> those species theoretically could have been counted on a yard list. Maybe 
> some lucky person living on the shores of Boyd Lake has Long-tailed Jaeger, 
> Slaty-backed Gull, and Garganey on their yard list!
>
> Wishing all good health, good birding, and an exciting Spring migration!
>
> --Thomas Heinrich
>
>
> *My answers to the questions above*:
> 15 years
> Dedicated to obsessive 
> 152 species
> Wood Thrush, Yellow-throated Warbler, N Cardinal, Common Redpoll, Bohemian 
> Waxwing
> Watching spring raptor migration from the roof-top, 35 Broad-winged Hawks 
> among 130 raptors of 10 species on one high-flow day (4/18/2020)
> Interface between suburban and open space, base of foothills, el. 5600'
>
> -- 
> Thomas Heinrich
> Boulder, CO
> tehei...@gmail.com
> www.pbase.com/birdercellist
>

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[cobirds] Re: BIRD BOMBS Feb 15 — dud fuse causes delay

[David Suddjian]

Friends,I’m sad to report that I will have to delay this episode of BIRD BOMBS due to technical issues. A new date and the next topic will be announced later this month. David SuddjianLittleton CoSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 26, 2024, at 2:04 PM, David Suddjian  wrote:Hi CoBirders,Register now for the next BIRD BOMBS set to explode Feb. 15 at 7 pm:Colorado Bird Taxonomy Made Simple .Bird taxonomy - the science of organizing and naming life forms - comes into play continually for birders. An understanding of bird relationships helps us in our identification and in appreciating what we see. This BIRD BOMBS will bring a Colorado focus to the topic, and have practical connections to how we bird.Visit the DFO BIRD BOMBS video archive to view past episodes, including the recent double gull bombs: Get Gullable and I Wish They All Could Be California Gulls.David suddjianLittleton CO




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Re: [cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

[Lynne Forrester]

My first was a flock of Bushtits in the backyard (along with 2 foxes!)

Lynne Forrester
Jefferson Cty

From: cobirds@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Susanna 
Donato 
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 6:47:41 AM
To: Colorado Birds 
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

I was doing some early stretching before heading out on the CBC when a movement 
in the cherry tree outside caught my eye -- the Downy Woodpecker that has 
recently discovered our suet feeder. One of my favorite yard birds!

On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 8:45:21 PM UTC-7 Gisellys Zarzuela wrote:
My first bird of the year was a Cackling Goose among a flock on (mostly) frozen 
Grasmere Lake at the crack of dawn on Jan 1st.
Gigi Zarzuela
Denver County



On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 7:19:45 PM UTC-7 Barbara Seibert wrote:
My first bird of the year was an adult bald eagle!  I headed out early Monday 
morning, and the bird was sitting in a tree right next to the road near my home 
(Larimer County).  It was a nice start to the New Year!

On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 5:35 AM Diana Beatty  wrote:
Mine was Canada Goose.
Diana Beatty
El Paso County

On Wed, Jan 3, 2024, 2:56 PM Jared Del Rosso  wrote:
I stepped out my back door on 1/1/2024 to the song of a House Finch. - Jared 
Del Rosso, Centenial, CO

On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:46:50 PM UTC-7 pages...@gmail.com wrote:
My first bird of 2024 was a Black-billed Magpie.  He has discovered my peanuts 
for the Blue Jay.  At first, he hated the platform he had to land on but he 
figured out how to make it not swing when he lands so now he comes every 
morning.

Happy New Year.
Page Carr
Highlands Ranch

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:19:38 PM UTC-7 Hondochica z wrote:
Thought I'd start this WI 'tradition' here - as I've not seen a comment as yet:

My first bird of the year was a pygmy nuthatch - love to them chatter in the 
pines

Happy New Year to all and good birding!

Kelly Goocher
Florissant


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Re: [cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

[Susanna Donato]

I was doing some early stretching before heading out on the CBC when a 
movement in the cherry tree outside caught my eye -- the Downy Woodpecker 
that has recently discovered our suet feeder. One of my favorite yard birds!

On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 8:45:21 PM UTC-7 Gisellys Zarzuela wrote:

> My first bird of the year was a Cackling Goose among a flock on (mostly) 
> frozen Grasmere Lake at the crack of dawn on Jan 1st. 
> Gigi Zarzuela
> Denver County
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 7:19:45 PM UTC-7 Barbara Seibert wrote:
>
>> My first bird of the year was an adult bald eagle!  I headed out early 
>> Monday morning, and the bird was sitting in a tree right next to the road 
>> near my home (Larimer County).  It was a nice start to the New Year!
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 5:35 AM Diana Beatty  wrote:
>>
>>> Mine was Canada Goose.
>>> Diana Beatty
>>> El Paso County 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2024, 2:56 PM Jared Del Rosso  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I stepped out my back door on 1/1/2024 to the song of a House Finch. - 
 Jared Del Rosso, Centenial, CO

 On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:46:50 PM UTC-7 pages...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> My first bird of 2024 was a Black-billed Magpie.  He has discovered my 
> peanuts for the Blue Jay.  At first, he hated the platform he had to land 
> on but he figured out how to make it not swing when he lands so now he 
> comes every morning.
>
> Happy New Year.
> Page Carr
> Highlands Ranch
>
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:19:38 PM UTC-7 Hondochica z wrote:
>
>> Thought I'd start this WI 'tradition' here - as I've not seen a 
>> comment as yet:
>>
>> My first bird of the year was a pygmy nuthatch - love to them chatter 
>> in the pines
>>
>> Happy New Year to all and good birding!
>>
>> Kelly Goocher
>> Florissant
>>
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Re: [cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

[Gisellys Zarzuela]

My first bird of the year was a Cackling Goose among a flock on (mostly) 
frozen Grasmere Lake at the crack of dawn on Jan 1st. 
Gigi Zarzuela
Denver County



On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 7:19:45 PM UTC-7 Barbara Seibert wrote:

> My first bird of the year was an adult bald eagle!  I headed out early 
> Monday morning, and the bird was sitting in a tree right next to the road 
> near my home (Larimer County).  It was a nice start to the New Year!
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 5:35 AM Diana Beatty  wrote:
>
>> Mine was Canada Goose.
>> Diana Beatty
>> El Paso County 
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2024, 2:56 PM Jared Del Rosso  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I stepped out my back door on 1/1/2024 to the song of a House Finch. - 
>>> Jared Del Rosso, Centenial, CO
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:46:50 PM UTC-7 pages...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 My first bird of 2024 was a Black-billed Magpie.  He has discovered my 
 peanuts for the Blue Jay.  At first, he hated the platform he had to land 
 on but he figured out how to make it not swing when he lands so now he 
 comes every morning.

 Happy New Year.
 Page Carr
 Highlands Ranch

 On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:19:38 PM UTC-7 Hondochica z wrote:

> Thought I'd start this WI 'tradition' here - as I've not seen a 
> comment as yet:
>
> My first bird of the year was a pygmy nuthatch - love to them chatter 
> in the pines
>
> Happy New Year to all and good birding!
>
> Kelly Goocher
> Florissant
>
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Re: [cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

[Barbara Seibert]

My first bird of the year was an adult bald eagle!  I headed out early
Monday morning, and the bird was sitting in a tree right next to the road
near my home (Larimer County).  It was a nice start to the New Year!

On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 5:35 AM Diana Beatty  wrote:

> Mine was Canada Goose.
> Diana Beatty
> El Paso County
>
> On Wed, Jan 3, 2024, 2:56 PM Jared Del Rosso 
> wrote:
>
>> I stepped out my back door on 1/1/2024 to the song of a House Finch. -
>> Jared Del Rosso, Centenial, CO
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:46:50 PM UTC-7 pages...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My first bird of 2024 was a Black-billed Magpie.  He has discovered my
>>> peanuts for the Blue Jay.  At first, he hated the platform he had to land
>>> on but he figured out how to make it not swing when he lands so now he
>>> comes every morning.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year.
>>> Page Carr
>>> Highlands Ranch
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:19:38 PM UTC-7 Hondochica z wrote:
>>>
 Thought I'd start this WI 'tradition' here - as I've not seen a comment
 as yet:

 My first bird of the year was a pygmy nuthatch - love to them chatter
 in the pines

 Happy New Year to all and good birding!

 Kelly Goocher
 Florissant

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Re: [cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

[Patrick O'Driscoll]

I'd like to say mine was the handsome Krider's Red-tailed Hawk that our
Denver Urban CBC group found perched in a big tree as we gathered at about
7:45 a.m. New Year's at the First Creek @ DEN Open Space trailhead out near
the airport.
But I'd already been up since zero-dark-thirty to check out waterfowl at
several nearby ponds.
My first birds that day:
A raft of five Common Goldeneyes (all males).
They were in a pool on the mostly frozen Emerald Strand, an L-shaped finger
of water in Denver's Gateway Park area (office parks/apartments/hotels)
west of the Peñs Boulevard access highway and south of the Arsenal.


On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 5:35 AM Diana Beatty  wrote:

> Mine was Canada Goose.
> Diana Beatty
> El Paso County
>
> On Wed, Jan 3, 2024, 2:56 PM Jared Del Rosso 
> wrote:
>
>> I stepped out my back door on 1/1/2024 to the song of a House Finch. -
>> Jared Del Rosso, Centenial, CO
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:46:50 PM UTC-7 pages...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My first bird of 2024 was a Black-billed Magpie.  He has discovered my
>>> peanuts for the Blue Jay.  At first, he hated the platform he had to land
>>> on but he figured out how to make it not swing when he lands so now he
>>> comes every morning.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year.
>>> Page Carr
>>> Highlands Ranch
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:19:38 PM UTC-7 Hondochica z wrote:
>>>
 Thought I'd start this WI 'tradition' here - as I've not seen a comment
 as yet:

 My first bird of the year was a pygmy nuthatch - love to them chatter
 in the pines

 Happy New Year to all and good birding!

 Kelly Goocher
 Florissant

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Re: [cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

[Diana Beatty]

Mine was Canada Goose.
Diana Beatty
El Paso County

On Wed, Jan 3, 2024, 2:56 PM Jared Del Rosso 
wrote:

> I stepped out my back door on 1/1/2024 to the song of a House Finch. -
> Jared Del Rosso, Centenial, CO
>
> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:46:50 PM UTC-7 pages...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My first bird of 2024 was a Black-billed Magpie.  He has discovered my
>> peanuts for the Blue Jay.  At first, he hated the platform he had to land
>> on but he figured out how to make it not swing when he lands so now he
>> comes every morning.
>>
>> Happy New Year.
>> Page Carr
>> Highlands Ranch
>>
>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:19:38 PM UTC-7 Hondochica z wrote:
>>
>>> Thought I'd start this WI 'tradition' here - as I've not seen a comment
>>> as yet:
>>>
>>> My first bird of the year was a pygmy nuthatch - love to them chatter in
>>> the pines
>>>
>>> Happy New Year to all and good birding!
>>>
>>> Kelly Goocher
>>> Florissant
>>>
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Re: [cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

['Dan Stringer' via Colorado Birds]

Since the 1st I've been stuck at my house dog-sitting. Today I drove out of 
my neighborhood, tried not to notice any pigeons or starlings, and saw my 
first 2024 bird, a Sharp-shinned Hawk winging it over the road. 

Dan Stringer
Larkspur, CO

On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 3:23:08 PM UTC-7 Matt wrote:

> As much as a Pine warbler would have been nice as first bird, it was to be 
> the lovely chatter of a Black capped chickadee I heard and saw as I stepped 
> out the door. 
>
> Matt Newport 
> Aurora, Arapahoe county
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 3, 2024, at 2:56 PM, Jared Del Rosso  wrote:
>
> I stepped out my back door on 1/1/2024 to the song of a House Finch. - 
> Jared Del Rosso, Centenial, CO
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:46:50 PM UTC-7 pages...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My first bird of 2024 was a Black-billed Magpie.  He has discovered my 
>> peanuts for the Blue Jay.  At first, he hated the platform he had to land 
>> on but he figured out how to make it not swing when he lands so now he 
>> comes every morning.
>>
>> Happy New Year.
>> Page Carr
>> Highlands Ranch
>>
>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:19:38 PM UTC-7 Hondochica z wrote:
>>
>>> Thought I'd start this WI 'tradition' here - as I've not seen a comment 
>>> as yet:
>>>
>>> My first bird of the year was a pygmy nuthatch - love to them chatter in 
>>> the pines
>>>
>>> Happy New Year to all and good birding!
>>>
>>> Kelly Goocher
>>> Florissant
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Re: [cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

[Matt]

As much as a Pine warbler would have been nice as first bird, it was to be the lovely chatter of a Black capped chickadee I heard and saw as I stepped out the door. Matt Newport Aurora, Arapahoe countySent from my iPhoneOn Jan 3, 2024, at 2:56 PM, Jared Del Rosso  wrote:I stepped out my back door on 1/1/2024 to the song of a House Finch. - Jared Del Rosso, Centenial, COOn Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:46:50 PM UTC-7 pages...@gmail.com wrote:My first bird of 2024 was a Black-billed Magpie.  He has discovered my peanuts for the Blue Jay.  At first, he hated the platform he had to land on but he figured out how to make it not swing when he lands so now he comes every morning.Happy New Year.Page CarrHighlands RanchOn Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:19:38 PM UTC-7 Hondochica z wrote:Thought I'd start this WI 'tradition' here - as I've not seen a comment as yet:My first bird of the year was a pygmy nuthatch - love to them chatter in the pinesHappy New Year to all and good birding!Kelly GoocherFlorissant




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[cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

[Jared Del Rosso]

I stepped out my back door on 1/1/2024 to the song of a House Finch. - 
Jared Del Rosso, Centenial, CO

On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 12:46:50 PM UTC-7 pages...@gmail.com wrote:

> My first bird of 2024 was a Black-billed Magpie.  He has discovered my 
> peanuts for the Blue Jay.  At first, he hated the platform he had to land 
> on but he figured out how to make it not swing when he lands so now he 
> comes every morning.
>
> Happy New Year.
> Page Carr
> Highlands Ranch
>
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:19:38 PM UTC-7 Hondochica z wrote:
>
>> Thought I'd start this WI 'tradition' here - as I've not seen a comment 
>> as yet:
>>
>> My first bird of the year was a pygmy nuthatch - love to them chatter in 
>> the pines
>>
>> Happy New Year to all and good birding!
>>
>> Kelly Goocher
>> Florissant
>>
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[cobirds] Re: BRAMBLING, Colorado Springs, El Paso County

[Santi Tabares]

Reed G. and I saw the Brambling at the second set of coordinates today at 
2pm for about 3 minutes. With a flock of juncos and house finches, but 
didn’t seem too attached to them. We also heard what we think was the 
brambling singing at around 12:10 from a nearby backyard here:
(38.9086094, -104.8602681)

People approached multiple times generally curious about what we were doing 
and seemed interested in the bird. All very friendly. There are a LOT of 
bird feeders in the area that are not in view, nearly everyone we talked to 
said they had feeders. 

Good birding
Santi Tabares 
Littleton, CO  
On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 3:33:38 PM UTC-7 David Tønnessen wrote:

> Hi CO birders,
>
> On December 27th, David Resch photographed a Brambling in a Colorado 
> Springs suburb, and submitted it to eBird on December 29th. Thanks to Mark 
> Peterson for calling me and alerting me to this, I then went out to give 
> the neighborhood a check the following morning, fully not expecting to find 
> anything. However, at 9:32 I lucked into the bird feeding on berries with a 
> flock of juncos and House Finches at 38.907514,-104.858815 in a red berried 
> ornamental; then followed it as it flew to 38.908563,-104.859306 in 
> cottonwoods and below some feeders, still associating strongly with junco 
> flocks. I was viewing the bird from Pinon Valley Rd throughout. At approx. 
> 9:47 am I lost track of the bird while chatting with a dog-walker. But my 
> guess is it kept going north to visit another yard with a good food source 
> in the area. There are several houses with feeder setups in the 
> neighborhood, currently.
>
> This morning, 4 of us looked in the same spots without luck. David Resch 
> has also not seen the bird since photographing it on the 27th.
>
> Thus far, homeowners have been friendly. But if you find this bird, and 
> pin down a spot where it seems to be potentially reliable, please make sure 
> with the homeowners who reside there that alerting birders to the location 
> would be ok. 
>
> If you look for this bird, I recommend parking at the US Post Office 
> at 5001 Centennial Blvd, Colorado Springs, CO 80919, or at the plaza across 
> the street from there, and walking up Pinon Valley Rd towards the Brambling 
> area. While there is some street parking along these roads, please be 
> careful not to crowd the streets where locals reside.
>
> People will be curious, and be prepared to be stopped and questioned about 
> what you are doing if you have large optics visible. Enthusiasm on the 
> subject of birding and explaining the rarity of the target bird while 
> showing them pictures (I like to use Merlin) always helps. Be respectful 
> and courteous, and do not walk onto lawns or yards unless explicitly given 
> permission.
>
> To me, this individual looked like a male in basic plumage. Very bright 
> for a winter Brambling, and it's dazzling orange is what caught me eye 
> initially, along with its size (slightly larger than a junco or House 
> Finch). This species does not typically fly to the very tops of trees, 
> unlike many of the local finch species, but stays at mid-level or just 
> below the crown. They feed on the ground more than other finch species, too
>
>
> Good luck, and Happy New Year's Eve!
>
> ~ David Tonnessen 
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[cobirds] Re: First bird of the year . .

[pages...@gmail.com]

My first bird of 2024 was a Black-billed Magpie.  He has discovered my 
peanuts for the Blue Jay.  At first, he hated the platform he had to land 
on but he figured out how to make it not swing when he lands so now he 
comes every morning.

Happy New Year.
Page Carr
Highlands Ranch

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 6:19:38 PM UTC-7 Hondochica z wrote:

> Thought I'd start this WI 'tradition' here - as I've not seen a comment as 
> yet:
>
> My first bird of the year was a pygmy nuthatch - love to them chatter in 
> the pines
>
> Happy New Year to all and good birding!
>
> Kelly Goocher
> Florissant
>
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[cobirds] Re: Black Vulture near Del Norte

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I will be writing an article regarding this bird. For those of you who 
traveled far to see it, please drop a line. Thanks. 

On Wednesday, December 20, 2023 at 6:15:31 PM UTC-7 mvjo...@gmail.com wrote:

> I sent a message this am but evidently did not go through? 
> The bird has been posted on I naturalist. Otherwise, from the intersection 
> of County Rd 14 and Hwy 160, go up 14 for 5.0 miles  and watch on the east 
> side of the road. The bird perches on fenceposts near a deer carcass. 
>
> John Rawinski
> Monte Vista CO
>
> [image: BLVU2_lo.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 4:06:18 PM UTC-7 mvjo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have just received a report with photo of a Black Vulture reported near 
>> Del Norte. It has been feeding on a deer carcass for about 3 weeks 
>> according to the report. 
>> I will try and get more details in case some of you want to chase. This 
>> is likely the first ever for the San Luis Valley and a rare species 
>> Statewide. Will keep you posted.  Seems so late as the Turkey Vultures 
>> vanished months ago. 
>>
>> John Rawinski
>> Monte Vista
>>
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[cobirds] Re-sighting of very pale unidentified buteo at 1st Creek at DEN Open Space

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The very beautiful Red-tailed Hawk we described on 12/17/23 was still there 
at the 1st Creek at DEN Open Space this afternoon. I could easily see it 
from the  parking lot with the naked eye because of its gleaming white 
breast and belly.
Any raptor enthusiasts with good camera equipment could take better 
pictures than Liza and I could with using a cell phone and spotting scope, 
such images could be posted/sent to raptor experts for ID.
So far our working hypothesis is that it could be an Eastern Red-tail x 
Krider's intergrade.

I found an excellent article from Birding March 2010 called "A study of 
Krider's Red-tailed Hawk" by Jerry Liguori and Brian L Sullivan which also 
discusses and depicts intergrades.
http://tinyurl.com/4upszd8d 

An additional feature I saw when it flew from one tree to another was that 
it had very large white prominent rectangular patches just within the 
wingtips dorsally, as shown in figure 11b in the article.
My eBird checklist from this afternoon:
https://ebird.org/checklist/S156820852

Ajit Antony
Central Park, Colorado



On Wednesday, December 20, 2023 at 10:58:14 AM UTC-7 cogoshawk wrote:

> In 2012, Dick Schottler and I found a leucistic RTHA during the Denver 
> CBC. It so happens that we found this bird in my neighborhood, which is on 
> the western edge of the count circle.  I was fortunate enough to watch this 
> bird, likely a female (she was bigger than any other RTHA that tried to 
> consort with her) up through 2020 when she disappeared. One thing I noticed 
> over time was that she became whiter and whiter, although her red tail 
> feathers remained distinct.  I have a couple of photos if anyone is 
> interested, but I have to say when I saw Ajit and Lisa's photos, my first 
> thought was "wow, another leucistic red tail!" I also remember sometime 
> back in the last year or two someone reporting on finding a leucistic RTHA 
> corpse.  All of which suggests that leucism is a bit more common than we 
> may tend to think.
>
> Ed Furlong
> Evergreen, CO
>
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 3:57:52 PM UTC-7 Ajit Antony wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin and everyone else.
>> I looked up Brian K Wheeler's 'Birds of Prey of the East' ( this is the 
>> first of his 2 books that came out, and I bought it when I was living in 
>> New York).
>> He has a plate devoted to 'Albinos and other Variants,' Plate 34 where he 
>> shows albinos and lucistic RTHA,  where he says in a picture of a Eastern 
>> partial albino that "Albinism affects wings and dorsal body surface more 
>> commonly than ventral body surface and tail." 
>> A few weeks ago we were at East 126th Avenue doing a raptor survey and we 
>> did see a leucistic RTHA which had large splotchy white patches on its 
>> dorsum as it flew, correctly IDd by Liza my wife and partner in the winter 
>> raptor surveys that we do.
>> Ajit Antony
>> Central Park, Colorado
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 10:21 AM 'kevyg...@aol.com' via Colorado Birds <
>> cob...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps the mystery buteo is a leucistic Red-tailed Hawk?
>>>
>>> Kevin Corwin
>>> Centennial, Arapahoe County
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 9:06:48 PM UTC-7 aiant...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 December Winter Raptor Survey of Rocky Mountain Arsenal NWR and DIA 
 Raptor Alley, with sighting of a mystery buteo

 This is our 2nd season doing volunteer Winter Raptor Surveys (WRS) for 
 the Hawk Migration Association of North America (HMANA) since moving to 
 Denver in July 2022. Prior to moving we did 4 WRS in New York State in the 
 Hudson Valley area since 2016. 

 Last winter season we did 3 surveys here – 1 in Denver and 2 in Boulder 
 in December 2022, and January and February 2023 for each route, following 
 it exactly, and roughly in the same week each month.

 This year we added another WRS in the area between Bennett and Jackson 
 Lake SP. We did that route a week ago with nothing special to report. It 
 may improve as winter progresses.

 Yesterday we completed the Rocky Mountain Arsenal to Barr Lake, and 
 west of Denver International Airport route for December 2023. 

 We saw and identified 78 Raptors, including

 Ferruginous Hawk  5, all adult

 Prairie Falcon 1, which attacked a Red-tailed Hawk as 
 well as a Northern Harrier

 Bald Eagle  25

 Northern Harrier 10

 American Kestrel5

 Red-tailed Hawk25, including 2 dark morph RT on Piccadilly 
 Road at Barr Lake, one perched and both in flight together. Spectacular.

 In addition we had a mystery buteo at 1st Creek at DEN Open Space 
 perched in a tree next to Peña Boulevard at 10:15 AM. When we finished our 
 survey and on the way back we could still see it (presumably the same 
 buteo) at the same location at 4:30 PM while driving south on Peña 

Re: [cobirds] Re: December Winter Raptor Survey, and sighting of a mystery buteo

[cogoshawk]

In 2012, Dick Schottler and I found a leucistic RTHA during the Denver CBC. 
It so happens that we found this bird in my neighborhood, which is on the 
western edge of the count circle.  I was fortunate enough to watch this 
bird, likely a female (she was bigger than any other RTHA that tried to 
consort with her) up through 2020 when she disappeared. One thing I noticed 
over time was that she became whiter and whiter, although her red tail 
feathers remained distinct.  I have a couple of photos if anyone is 
interested, but I have to say when I saw Ajit and Lisa's photos, my first 
thought was "wow, another leucistic red tail!" I also remember sometime 
back in the last year or two someone reporting on finding a leucistic RTHA 
corpse.  All of which suggests that leucism is a bit more common than we 
may tend to think.

Ed Furlong
Evergreen, CO

On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 3:57:52 PM UTC-7 Ajit Antony wrote:

> Hi Kevin and everyone else.
> I looked up Brian K Wheeler's 'Birds of Prey of the East' ( this is the 
> first of his 2 books that came out, and I bought it when I was living in 
> New York).
> He has a plate devoted to 'Albinos and other Variants,' Plate 34 where he 
> shows albinos and lucistic RTHA,  where he says in a picture of a Eastern 
> partial albino that "Albinism affects wings and dorsal body surface more 
> commonly than ventral body surface and tail." 
> A few weeks ago we were at East 126th Avenue doing a raptor survey and we 
> did see a leucistic RTHA which had large splotchy white patches on its 
> dorsum as it flew, correctly IDd by Liza my wife and partner in the winter 
> raptor surveys that we do.
> Ajit Antony
> Central Park, Colorado
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 10:21 AM 'kevyg...@aol.com' via Colorado Birds <
> cob...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps the mystery buteo is a leucistic Red-tailed Hawk?
>>
>> Kevin Corwin
>> Centennial, Arapahoe County
>>
>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 9:06:48 PM UTC-7 aiant...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> December Winter Raptor Survey of Rocky Mountain Arsenal NWR and DIA 
>>> Raptor Alley, with sighting of a mystery buteo
>>>
>>> This is our 2nd season doing volunteer Winter Raptor Surveys (WRS) for 
>>> the Hawk Migration Association of North America (HMANA) since moving to 
>>> Denver in July 2022. Prior to moving we did 4 WRS in New York State in the 
>>> Hudson Valley area since 2016. 
>>>
>>> Last winter season we did 3 surveys here – 1 in Denver and 2 in Boulder 
>>> in December 2022, and January and February 2023 for each route, following 
>>> it exactly, and roughly in the same week each month.
>>>
>>> This year we added another WRS in the area between Bennett and Jackson 
>>> Lake SP. We did that route a week ago with nothing special to report. It 
>>> may improve as winter progresses.
>>>
>>> Yesterday we completed the Rocky Mountain Arsenal to Barr Lake, and west 
>>> of Denver International Airport route for December 2023. 
>>>
>>> We saw and identified 78 Raptors, including
>>>
>>> Ferruginous Hawk  5, all adult
>>>
>>> Prairie Falcon 1, which attacked a Red-tailed Hawk as 
>>> well as a Northern Harrier
>>>
>>> Bald Eagle  25
>>>
>>> Northern Harrier 10
>>>
>>> American Kestrel5
>>>
>>> Red-tailed Hawk25, including 2 dark morph RT on Piccadilly 
>>> Road at Barr Lake, one perched and both in flight together. Spectacular.
>>>
>>> In addition we had a mystery buteo at 1st Creek at DEN Open Space 
>>> perched in a tree next to Peña Boulevard at 10:15 AM. When we finished our 
>>> survey and on the way back we could still see it (presumably the same 
>>> buteo) at the same location at 4:30 PM while driving south on Peña 
>>> Boulevard.
>>>
>>> Our eBird checklist for that location with images is: 
>>>
>>> https://ebird.org/checklist/S156663182 
>>>
>>> My notes written during the observation were: The tail was reddish with 
>>> multiple equal width bands, no sub-terminal band, with more reddish 
>>> distally than proximally, as well the left side of the tail was slightly 
>>> more red than the right side of the tail which was less red. There was a 
>>> thin eyeline on an otherwise white head with a black blob in the malar 
>>> area, no belly band but a few speckles in the flank area, white scapulars 
>>> and coverts. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Liza fancied a Krider's Hawk looking at the Raptor ID  app. Looking at 
>>> Brian Wheeler's Raptors of Western North America at the time, I felt it 
>>> could be a juvenile light morph Harlan's Hawk, except today reading more 
>>> about it in his Birds of Prey of the East and looking at the pictures, the 
>>> back is not stark black and white as his images show.
>>>
>>> I sent the images to the WRS coordinator for expert opinions. So far one 
>>> opinion is that it could be a Krider’s Hawk or an intergrade between 
>>> Krider’s and an Eastern borealis Red-tailed Hawk. 
>>>
>>> Any learned expert opinions with 

Re: [cobirds] Re: December Winter Raptor Survey, and sighting of a mystery buteo

[Ajit Antony]

Hi Kevin and everyone else.
I looked up Brian K Wheeler's 'Birds of Prey of the East' ( this is the
first of his 2 books that came out, and I bought it when I was living in
New York).
He has a plate devoted to 'Albinos and other Variants,' Plate 34 where he
shows albinos and lucistic RTHA,  where he says in a picture of a Eastern
partial albino that "Albinism affects wings and dorsal body surface more
commonly than ventral body surface and tail."
A few weeks ago we were at East 126th Avenue doing a raptor survey and we
did see a leucistic RTHA which had large splotchy white patches on its
dorsum as it flew, correctly IDd by Liza my wife and partner in the winter
raptor surveys that we do.
Ajit Antony
Central Park, Colorado

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 10:21 AM 'kevygud...@aol.com' via Colorado Birds <
cobirds@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Perhaps the mystery buteo is a leucistic Red-tailed Hawk?
>
> Kevin Corwin
> Centennial, Arapahoe County
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 9:06:48 PM UTC-7 aiant...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> December Winter Raptor Survey of Rocky Mountain Arsenal NWR and DIA
>> Raptor Alley, with sighting of a mystery buteo
>>
>> This is our 2nd season doing volunteer Winter Raptor Surveys (WRS) for
>> the Hawk Migration Association of North America (HMANA) since moving to
>> Denver in July 2022. Prior to moving we did 4 WRS in New York State in the
>> Hudson Valley area since 2016.
>>
>> Last winter season we did 3 surveys here – 1 in Denver and 2 in Boulder
>> in December 2022, and January and February 2023 for each route, following
>> it exactly, and roughly in the same week each month.
>>
>> This year we added another WRS in the area between Bennett and Jackson
>> Lake SP. We did that route a week ago with nothing special to report. It
>> may improve as winter progresses.
>>
>> Yesterday we completed the Rocky Mountain Arsenal to Barr Lake, and west
>> of Denver International Airport route for December 2023.
>>
>> We saw and identified 78 Raptors, including
>>
>> Ferruginous Hawk  5, all adult
>>
>> Prairie Falcon 1, which attacked a Red-tailed Hawk as
>> well as a Northern Harrier
>>
>> Bald Eagle  25
>>
>> Northern Harrier 10
>>
>> American Kestrel5
>>
>> Red-tailed Hawk25, including 2 dark morph RT on Piccadilly
>> Road at Barr Lake, one perched and both in flight together. Spectacular.
>>
>> In addition we had a mystery buteo at 1st Creek at DEN Open Space
>> perched in a tree next to Peña Boulevard at 10:15 AM. When we finished our
>> survey and on the way back we could still see it (presumably the same
>> buteo) at the same location at 4:30 PM while driving south on Peña
>> Boulevard.
>>
>> Our eBird checklist for that location with images is:
>>
>> https://ebird.org/checklist/S156663182
>>
>> My notes written during the observation were: The tail was reddish with
>> multiple equal width bands, no sub-terminal band, with more reddish
>> distally than proximally, as well the left side of the tail was slightly
>> more red than the right side of the tail which was less red. There was a
>> thin eyeline on an otherwise white head with a black blob in the malar
>> area, no belly band but a few speckles in the flank area, white scapulars
>> and coverts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Liza fancied a Krider's Hawk looking at the Raptor ID  app. Looking at
>> Brian Wheeler's Raptors of Western North America at the time, I felt it
>> could be a juvenile light morph Harlan's Hawk, except today reading more
>> about it in his Birds of Prey of the East and looking at the pictures, the
>> back is not stark black and white as his images show.
>>
>> I sent the images to the WRS coordinator for expert opinions. So far one
>> opinion is that it could be a Krider’s Hawk or an intergrade between
>> Krider’s and an Eastern borealis Red-tailed Hawk.
>>
>> Any learned expert opinions with detailed reasons for your ID would be
>> most welcome.
>>
>> I have to admit that neither of us have ever seen any of these possible
>> species! Our ID speculations are book/image-based only.
>>
>>
>> You can see what we found on our previous WRSs along the same and other
>> routes at
>>
>> https://wrs.hmana.org/public_html/index.php as well as the 1 other route
>> developed in the past winter season in Colorado – the Nunn Raptor Alley
>> route conducted by Robert Beauchamp. Go to the website to the left sidebar
>> and click on Survey Map and enlarge it to Colorado, you can click on
>> individual surveys and using the drop-down menu, find previous survey
>> results.
>>
>> Anyone can develop their own survey route. It is open to all. You can get
>> more information at:
>>
>> https://www.hmana.org/winter-raptor-survey/
>>
>> If you like raptors and know of an area with raptors you can develop your
>> own route, as long as it doesn’t overlap an established one. Just follow
>> the guidelines on the website. If you want any questions answered you can
>> email the WRS 

[cobirds] Re: December Winter Raptor Survey, and sighting of a mystery buteo

['kevygud...@aol.com' via Colorado Birds]

Perhaps the mystery buteo is a leucistic Red-tailed Hawk?

Kevin Corwin
Centennial, Arapahoe County

On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 9:06:48 PM UTC-7 aiant...@gmail.com wrote:

> December Winter Raptor Survey of Rocky Mountain Arsenal NWR and DIA Raptor 
> Alley, with sighting of a mystery buteo
>
> This is our 2nd season doing volunteer Winter Raptor Surveys (WRS) for 
> the Hawk Migration Association of North America (HMANA) since moving to 
> Denver in July 2022. Prior to moving we did 4 WRS in New York State in the 
> Hudson Valley area since 2016. 
>
> Last winter season we did 3 surveys here – 1 in Denver and 2 in Boulder in 
> December 2022, and January and February 2023 for each route, following it 
> exactly, and roughly in the same week each month.
>
> This year we added another WRS in the area between Bennett and Jackson 
> Lake SP. We did that route a week ago with nothing special to report. It 
> may improve as winter progresses.
>
> Yesterday we completed the Rocky Mountain Arsenal to Barr Lake, and west 
> of Denver International Airport route for December 2023. 
>
> We saw and identified 78 Raptors, including
>
> Ferruginous Hawk  5, all adult
>
> Prairie Falcon 1, which attacked a Red-tailed Hawk as 
> well as a Northern Harrier
>
> Bald Eagle  25
>
> Northern Harrier 10
>
> American Kestrel5
>
> Red-tailed Hawk25, including 2 dark morph RT on Piccadilly 
> Road at Barr Lake, one perched and both in flight together. Spectacular.
>
> In addition we had a mystery buteo at 1st Creek at DEN Open Space perched 
> in a tree next to Peña Boulevard at 10:15 AM. When we finished our survey 
> and on the way back we could still see it (presumably the same buteo) at 
> the same location at 4:30 PM while driving south on Peña Boulevard.
>
> Our eBird checklist for that location with images is: 
>
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S156663182 
>
> My notes written during the observation were: The tail was reddish with 
> multiple equal width bands, no sub-terminal band, with more reddish 
> distally than proximally, as well the left side of the tail was slightly 
> more red than the right side of the tail which was less red. There was a 
> thin eyeline on an otherwise white head with a black blob in the malar 
> area, no belly band but a few speckles in the flank area, white scapulars 
> and coverts. 
>
>  
>
> Liza fancied a Krider's Hawk looking at the Raptor ID  app. Looking at 
> Brian Wheeler's Raptors of Western North America at the time, I felt it 
> could be a juvenile light morph Harlan's Hawk, except today reading more 
> about it in his Birds of Prey of the East and looking at the pictures, the 
> back is not stark black and white as his images show.
>
> I sent the images to the WRS coordinator for expert opinions. So far one 
> opinion is that it could be a Krider’s Hawk or an intergrade between 
> Krider’s and an Eastern borealis Red-tailed Hawk. 
>
> Any learned expert opinions with detailed reasons for your ID would be 
> most welcome. 
>
> I have to admit that neither of us have ever seen any of these possible 
> species! Our ID speculations are book/image-based only.
>
>
> You can see what we found on our previous WRSs along the same and other 
> routes at
>
> https://wrs.hmana.org/public_html/index.php as well as the 1 other route 
> developed in the past winter season in Colorado – the Nunn Raptor Alley 
> route conducted by Robert Beauchamp. Go to the website to the left sidebar 
> and click on Survey Map and enlarge it to Colorado, you can click on 
> individual surveys and using the drop-down menu, find previous survey 
> results.
>
> Anyone can develop their own survey route. It is open to all. You can get 
> more information at:
>
> https://www.hmana.org/winter-raptor-survey/ 
>
> If you like raptors and know of an area with raptors you can develop your 
> own route, as long as it doesn’t overlap an established one. Just follow 
> the guidelines on the website. If you want any questions answered you can 
> email the WRS coordinator Janice Sweet. I can also be of help if you want 
> someone local.
>
> Ajit & Liza Antony
>
> Central Park, CO (which used to be called Stapleton)
>
>  
>

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[cobirds] Re: Bohemian Waxwings- They're Back!

[Jared Del Rosso]

How exciting!

Anyone know if Bohemian irruptions ever cross over the Rockies -- or do we 
tend to see irruptions on one side or the other?

- Jared Del Rosso
Centennial, CO

On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 7:21:29 PM UTC-7 Noah Brinkman wrote:

> On my way to scope some waterfowl at Stagecoach Reservoir (Routt Co.) this 
> morning, I encountered a single waxwing that flew across the road as I 
> drove by. I found a safe place to park and discovered a large flock of 
> mixed waxwings with ~75 individuals. It was pretty evenly distributed, with 
> an estimated 40 Bohemians and 35 Cedars. According to eBird data, this is 
> one of only two BOWA observations this season in Colorado. I was able to 
> spend some time with this flock and watched as they flew back and forth 
> between a few Hawthornes and Aspen. It was a veritable frenzy as these 
> birds gorged themselves on Hawthorne berries. This was easily my favorite 
> avian encounter in months! 
>
> eBird checklist with photos: https://ebird.org/checklist/S155969982
>
> Perhaps this flock is an indication of the winter to come. Last year while 
> the Front Range was enjoying the irruption of BOWA, Routt experienced a 
> "drought". I am only aware of one flock that was seen in Routt, in early 
> March. In a typical year, I will see them around three or four times 
> (almost always in massive flocks). Maybe my observation today is an 
> indication of a more normal year for waxwings? Of course, this is pure 
> speculation and only time will tell...
>
> Happy Birding!
> Noah Brinkman
>

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[cobirds] Re: Colorado Christmas Bird Count Dates

[Susanna Donato]

Thank you. I participated in the Denver urban count last year but haven’t 
seen information this year about the compiler or how to get involved again. 
Could someone point me to that information? I’d really appreciate it. 
Thanks,
Susanna 

On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 7:18:05 PM UTC-7 Brandon wrote:

> Here is an update on all the Colorado Christmas Bird Count dates for this 
> winter.  Contact the compiler, if you wish to help.
>
> https://www.audubon.org/conservation/join-christmas-bird-count
>
> Colorado Christmas Bird Counts are coming soon.
> Air Force Academy - TBA
> Aspen - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Barr Lake - Sunday, 31 December 2023
> Black Forest - Thursday, 4 January 2024
> Bonny Reservoir - Friday, 22 December 2023
> Boulder – Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Colorado Springs – Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Cortez - Saturday, 30 December 2023
> Crook - Saturday, 23 December 2023
> Delta - Sunday, 23 December 2023
> Denver - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Denver (Urban) - Monday, 1 January 2024
> Dotsero - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Douglas County - Saturday, 30 December 2023
> Durango - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Eagle Valley - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Evergreen-Idaho Springs – Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Fairplay - Friday, 15 December 2023
> Flagler - Saturday, 30 December 2023
> Fort Collins - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Fountain Creek – Thursday, 14 December 2023
> Granby - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Grand Junction – Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Grand Mesa – Monday, 1 January 2024
> Great Sand Dunes N.P. - Saturday, 30 December 2023
> Greeley - Saturday, 30 December 2023
> Gunnison - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Hotchkiss - Monday, 1 January 2024
> John Martin Reservoir - Thursday, 14 December 2023
> Lake Isabel - Friday, 29 December 2023
> Longmont - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Loveland - Monday, 1 January 2024
> Monte Vista N.W.R. - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Montrose - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> North JeffCo – Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Nunn - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Penrose - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Pinon Canyon - Friday, 15 December 2023
> Pueblo - Tuesday, 19 December 2023
> Pueblo Reservoir – Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Rawhide Energy Station - TBA
> Rifle Creek - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Roaring Fork River Valley - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Rocky Ford - Friday. 15 December 2023
> Rocky Mountain N.P. - Tuesday, 2 January 2024
> Salida – Friday, 15 December 2023
> Spanish Peaks - TBA
> Steamboat Springs - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Summit County - TBA
> Weldona-Fort Morgan - Thursday. 14 December 2023
> Westcliffe - Saturday, 23 December 2023
> Windy Peak Area - TBA
>
> Brandon Percival
> Colorado CBC Regional Editor
> Pueblo West, CO
>

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[cobirds] Re: Letter from Jon Dunn

[Donald Jones]

Certainly worth a read. As is this piece, voicing the opposing opinion, by 
Kenn Kauffman: 

http://www.kaufmanfieldguides.com/kenn-on-the-issues/eponymous-bird-names-and-the-history-of-ornithology?fbclid=IwAR32lesbSDgzt0MiBEG4bGBoBBnWEPPcisGmEW9z-aWljHFrMbOi08lwxaU

Don Jones
Laramie, WY

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[cobirds] Re: Denver Christmas Bird Count information

[Joey Kellner]

 

Denver CBC Compiler: Joey Kellner à SWDenverBirding at gmail.com


On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 12:10:07 PM UTC-7 vir...@comcast.net 
wrote:

> Hello COBIRDers!
>
>  
>
> The Denver CBC can ALWAYS use more eyes and ears (regardless of birder 
> skill level).  See information below.
>
>  
>
> Even if you cannot help out on the Denver CBC, *PLEASE* consider helping 
> out on a Christmas Bird Count (CBC) near you (or one further afield to 
> perhaps a new birding location for you).  
>
>  
>
> Joey.
>
>  
>
> Joey Kellner
>
> Compiler - Denver CBC
>
>  _
>
> ( '<
>
> // )
>
>/ ""
>
> *69th DENVER CHRISTMAS BIRD COUNT - SATURDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2023*
>
>  
>
> Count Leader/Compiler:  Joey Kellner, swdenve...@gmail.com
>
> Feeder Coordinator: Joey Kellner – Feeder watchers, please send your list 
> of species and numbers of each species to the email above as soon as 
> possible after “Count Day”.
>
>  
>
> All are encouraged to participate in the annual Denver Christmas Bird 
> Count (CBC) sponsored the National Audubon Society.  
>
>  
>
> *Fees: *None!  So, no excuses!  Come have a great time and help count 
> birds!  Beginners and experts all welcome!
>
>  
>
> After a day in the field, all participants are invited to attend the 
> compilation meeting to warm up, chat with other birders, and find out how 
> the count fared. It is a lot of fun.  The compilation meeting will be at 
> approximately 5:00pm in the multipurpose room at the Chatfield State Park 
> headquarters (south side of the lake near the Heronry Overlook); *State 
> Parks vehicle entry pass required.*  Please carpool if possible.  
>
>  
>
> The 15-mile diameter “count circle” is subdivided into 24 “count areas” 
> each with an Area Leader.  To participate, please contact the Area Leader 
> (see below).  If you would like to help in an area that still needs 
> additional observers call the Count Compiler.  
>
>  
>
> To prevent phone numbers and/or email addresses from being posted to 
> COBIRDS, please contact the Compiler (contact info above) for contact 
> information for all Area Leaders.
>
>  
>
> *Area*  *Number** and Location*   *Area 
> Leader  *
>
> 1.  Red Rocks ParkGregg Goodrich 
>
> 2.  Lower Bear CreekScott Somershoe
>
> 2A.Bear Creek Lake Park   Cyndy Johnson  
>
> 3.  Bow Mar/MarstonArt Hudak  
>  
>
>
> 4A.Lower South Platte - East  Ed Holub  
>
> 4B.Lower South Platte - West Glenn Walbek   
>
> 5.  Highline Ditch  Nancy Crews 
>
>
> 6.  Plum Creek  Norm Erthal  
>
>
> 7A.Middle South Platte - WestSue Summers
>
> 7B.Middle South Platte - East Steve Stachowiak  
>
> 8.  Chatfield Reservoir   Joey Kellner  
>
>
> 9.  Upper South Platte * Jill Holden
>
>
> 10.Lower Deer Creek (Chatfield Farms) Barbra Sobhani  
>
> 11.Upper Deer Creek Paul Slingsby
>
> 12.Yegge Peak  Cynthia Madsen
>
> 13.Doublehead Mountain   Amy Davis
>
> 14.North Turkey Creek  Ed Furlong
>
> 15.Indian Hills  Dick Prickett
>  
>
>
> 16.Upper Bear Creek Laura Steadman 
>
> 17.Ken Caryl Ranch  David Suddjian  
>
> 18.Garrison Gate   Leader Needed  
>
> 19.Morrison/Willowbrook Chris Gilbert 
>
> 20.Willow Creek   Dale Pate  
>
>
> 21.Mount Lindo/Willow SpringsChris Sherry  
>
>  
>
> *  To participate in this area, you must contact the area leader no later 
> than Monday, November 22.
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>
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>
> Below area numbers correspond with the area numbers above.
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[cobirds] Re: Colorado Christmas Bird Count Dates updated

[Gib Rokich]

Hello Brandon,Let’s plan on the Lake Isabel count for Friday, December 29th. GibSent from my iPadOn Nov 21, 2023, at 8:51 PM, Brandon  wrote:Hi all,Here is an update on Colorado Christmas Bird Count dates for December 2023-January 2024.  If you know the date for any of the counts with TBA (To Be Announced), please let me know.Air Force Academy - TBAAspen - Sunday, 17 December 2023Barr Lake - Sunday, 31 December 2023Black Forest - TBABonny Reservoir - Friday, 22 December 2023Boulder – Sunday, 17 December 2023Colorado Springs – Saturday, 16 December 2023Cortez - Saturday, 30 December 2023Crook - Saturday, 23 December 2023Delta - Sunday, 23 December 2023Denver - Saturday, 16 December 2023Denver (Urban) - Monday, 1 January 2024Dotsero - Saturday, 16 December 2023Douglas County - Saturday, 30 December 2023Durango - Sunday, 17 December 2023Eagle Valley - Saturday, 16 December 2023Evergreen-Idaho Springs – Sunday, 17 December 2023Fairplay - TBAFlagler - Saturday, 30 December 2023Fort Collins - Saturday, 16 December 2023Fountain Creek – Thursday, 14 December 2023Granby - Saturday, 16 December 2023Grand Junction – Sunday, 17 December 2023Grand Mesa – Monday, 1 January 2024Great Sand Dunes N.P. - TBAGreeley - TBAGunnison - Sunday, 17 December 2023Hotchkiss - Monday, 1 January 2024John Martin Reservoir - Thursday, 14 December 2023Lake Isabel - TBALongmont - Saturday, 16 December 2023Loveland - Monday, 1 January 2024Monte Vista N.W.R. - Saturday, 16 December 2023Montrose - TBANorth JeffCo – Sunday, 17 December 2023Nunn - Sunday, 17 December 2023Penrose - Sunday, 17 December 2023Pinon Canyon - TBAPueblo - TBAPueblo Reservoir – Saturday, 16 December 2023Rawhide Energy Station - TBARifle Creek - Saturday, 16 December 2023Roaring Fork River Valley - Saturday, 16 December 2023Rocky Ford - Friday. 15 December 2023Rocky Mountain N.P. - TBASalida – Friday, 15 December 2023Spanish Peaks - TBASteamboat Springs - TBASummit County - TBAWeldona-Fort Morgan - Thursday. 14 December 2023Westcliffe - TBAWindy Peak Area - TBAhttps://www.audubon.org/conserv.../join-christmas-bird-countBrandon PercivalColorado CBC Regional EditorPueblo West, CO




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[cobirds] Re: Updated Colorado Christmas Bird Count dates

[mvjo...@gmail.com]

Thanks Brandon...

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 2:28:26 PM UTC-7 Brandon wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have received quite a few updates on dates for Colorado Christmas Bird 
> Counts this winter.  Here is that update.
>
> A few updates on Christmas Bird Count Dates for this winter.
> Aspen - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Barr Lake - Sunday, 31 December 2023
> Boulder – Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Colorado Springs – Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Cortez - Saturday, 30 December 2023
> Delta - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Denver - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Denver (Urban) - Monday, 1 January 2024
> Durango - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Evergreen-Idaho Springs – Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Fountain Creek – Thursday, 14 December 2023
> Granby - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Grand Junction – Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Grand Mesa – Monday, 1 January 2024
> Gunnison - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Hotchkiss - Monday, 1 January 2024
> Longmont - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Monte Vista N.W.R. - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> North JeffCo – Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Nunn - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Penrose - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> Pueblo Reservoir – Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Rifle Creek - Saturday, 23 December 2023
> Roaring Fork River Valley - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> Rocky Ford - Friday. 15 December 2023
> Salida – Friday, 15 December 2023
>
> Brandon Percival
> Colorado CBC Regional Editor
> Pueblo West, CO
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Re: [cobirds] Re: Benefits of Keeping the Original Bird Names. Moderator note

['Martin Margulies' via Colorado Birds]

First I wanna commend the thorough post that Rachel made on the 7th, if you 
haven't read it give it a go.

I come from a wildlife biology which led me into multiple ornithological 
studies, birding, and my life list and I had a few thoughts-
-People refer to the history associated with the names of the species, I 
can tell you that during my studies there was no "historical" section on 
the figures that these birds are named after.  
-In addition, names have no relevance to birds and the lives of the men 
that are honored in the naming of these birds are questionable. Many of 
these people are offensive.  Yes Yes I'm glad I'm not judge by the lens of 
time.
-It's important to understand history and in this case why the names will 
be changed.
-The descriptors are more helpful in a multitude of ways.
-It's interesting to note that ornithology we rarely refer to birds by 
their scientific names (only in publication) unlike botany.
-The naming of many species are after the discoverers of that species they 
actually did something, that being said many if not all of the species were 
discovered by the indigenous populations that discovered this place long 
before the settlers.  
-We can look at similarities in geographic field, looking at the changing 
of names from honorees to indigenous references/names for example Denali 
over Mt McKinley.  -The movement to get offensive language from the naming 
of geographic places the equivalent Old Squaw to Long-tailed Duck.  To 
think that I just accepted these without any though shows my naiveté 
(stupidity or ignorance) and white male privilege.

Some people think this is big change it isn't, I believe it's the correct 
change.  You can probably tell my minor wasn't English.

Thanks to all for keeping the discussion civil.
Martin


On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 7:27:06 AM UTC-7 Mark Hauswald wrote:

> As an old birder who is familiar with all these names I'd prefer to keep 
> them.
> If I was a brand new birder who was trying to sort out hundreds of species 
> I'd much prefer names that would help me do that.
> I'm going to New Zealand in January so will be in the latter camp then. 
> Those names are often in Maori ! 
>
> On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 1:13:43 PM UTC-7 Carla Richardson wrote:
>
>> I am certainly not on the list for political discussions. But I will say 
>> one thing and one thing only. Please do not call the United States "evil." 
>> (From a previous post)
>>
>> Back to appropriate topic, personally I wish bird names would stay the 
>> same as named by the people who discovered them. It is not fair to judge 
>> others from other times, in a general sense. I'm pretty neutral about it, 
>> though, I can understand the point, either way. 
>>
>> As a VERY NEW birder, it's hard enough to remember names without the 
>> names changing continually. 
>>
>> Carla
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 12:44 PM David Suddjian  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi CoBirders,
>>>
>>> *List moderator note*. 
>>> This has been an interesting (and polite) discussion, and certainly 
>>> appropriate to CoBirds on the whole. As it proceeds I remind list members 
>>> that CoBirds is about reporting on *birding in Colorado*, *Colorado 
>>> birds* and things pertinent to these topics. For this issue, where 
>>> there are strong opinions and deep feelings, I encourage the discussion to 
>>> steer away from the lives of historic figures in contexts outside of 
>>> Colorado birding. We can look those things up. Discussion of bird names and 
>>> the plan and process to change them is fine.  You know what I'm trying to 
>>> say. 
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> David Suddjian
>>> CoBirds moderator
>>> Littleton, CO
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 10:13 AM Susan Rosine  wrote:
>>>
 I'm not quite sure why we're still bringing up McCown, since "his" bird 
 already has a new moniker. 

 Interesting that you note "the Confederacy and the evils that it stood 
 for".

 Ten of the first twelve presidents owned slaves, and twelve presidents 
 altogether had slaves at some point. Yet, we have Washington, Jefferson, 
 Jackson and Grant on our money, stamps, etc.

 We also still honor men who pushed the Native American Indians from 
 their land. 

 Evil Confederacy? How about evil United States of America? 

 If at one point, it was simply decided that birds named after humans 
 was stupid in general, and therefore would all be renamed, that would be 
 fine. Annoying, because it's a lot of name changes all at once, but fine. 
 However, this all started because it was discovered a few of these men 
 were 
 not perfect, wonderful human beings. Then there had to be intense study 
 into "just how evil" they really were. People started taking sides. These 
 men were sort of on trial posthumously. Good or bad, cool dude or evil 
 dude?

 AOS finally decided, well let's just changed them all, so we don't have 
 to dig into 

Re: [cobirds] Re: AOU - name changes

[Charlie Paterson]

I agree!  Hoping it’s an opportunity for us to have some thoughtful fun and
engagement with birdwatching.

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 6:56 PM Vaughn Cottman 
wrote:

> I totally agree with you, Cathy!
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 6:49:56 PM UTC-7 Cathy Sheeter wrote:
>
>> I think the visceral reaction of many really has nothing to do with
>> names, but with simple concept of a large change from what they know. Many
>> birds have been named, renamed and changed over the last 100 years, but
>> people only remember and feel attached to the one they learned when they
>> started birding, or the one they know now. Yes, there will be a big
>> adjustment and for some it may seem overwhelming to think about remembering
>> 150 new names…but I actually think some, if not most, of the new names will
>> be big improvements as far as being more about the bird than some
>> historical figure that many don’t know anything about.
>>
>> New birders will learn the new names and have no specific attachment to
>> Harris’s Hawk compared to Bay-winged Hawk. Harris’s tells us nothing of the
>> bird. Bay-winged is informative.
>>
>> I don’t personally think renaming will specifically change who is
>> attracted to birding or if someone stays at it, but I do think descriptive
>> names are actually more beneficial for new birders for learning. Thicket
>> Vireo certainly helps one understand habitat of the species much more than
>> Bell’s Vireo ever has. I look forward to saying the more descriptive names
>> of Yucca Oriole, Sedge Sparrow, Ice Bunting, and Desert Quail (of course
>> these examples are not formally accepted names, but ideas I have seen being
>> tossed around on various groups).
>>
>> I don’t think there is anything specifically beneficial to anyone by
>> having bird’s (or any animal) named after people. I admit I have rarely
>> taken time to researched the names behind the birds they are named after,
>> but am much more interested in their ecology, habitat and behavior, which
>> can be incorporated in these new names. In some cases the new names might
>> help with conservation efforts by showing a species dependence on an
>> endangered or declining habitats.
>>
>> I think and hope that in a handful of years most will look back on the
>> changes favorably after they get used to the new names and have adjusted to
>> them.
>>
>>
>> Cathy Sheeter
>> www.cathysheeter.com
>> Aurora, CO
>>
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[cobirds] Re: AOU - name changes

[Vaughn Cottman]

I totally agree with you, Cathy!

On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 6:49:56 PM UTC-7 Cathy Sheeter wrote:

> I think the visceral reaction of many really has nothing to do with names, 
> but with simple concept of a large change from what they know. Many birds 
> have been named, renamed and changed over the last 100 years, but people 
> only remember and feel attached to the one they learned when they started 
> birding, or the one they know now. Yes, there will be a big adjustment and 
> for some it may seem overwhelming to think about remembering 150 new 
> names…but I actually think some, if not most, of the new names will be big 
> improvements as far as being more about the bird than some historical 
> figure that many don’t know anything about. 
>
> New birders will learn the new names and have no specific attachment to 
> Harris’s Hawk compared to Bay-winged Hawk. Harris’s tells us nothing of the 
> bird. Bay-winged is informative.
>
> I don’t personally think renaming will specifically change who is 
> attracted to birding or if someone stays at it, but I do think descriptive 
> names are actually more beneficial for new birders for learning. Thicket 
> Vireo certainly helps one understand habitat of the species much more than 
> Bell’s Vireo ever has. I look forward to saying the more descriptive names 
> of Yucca Oriole, Sedge Sparrow, Ice Bunting, and Desert Quail (of course 
> these examples are not formally accepted names, but ideas I have seen being 
> tossed around on various groups). 
>
> I don’t think there is anything specifically beneficial to anyone by 
> having bird’s (or any animal) named after people. I admit I have rarely 
> taken time to researched the names behind the birds they are named after, 
> but am much more interested in their ecology, habitat and behavior, which 
> can be incorporated in these new names. In some cases the new names might 
> help with conservation efforts by showing a species dependence on an 
> endangered or declining habitats.
>
> I think and hope that in a handful of years most will look back on the 
> changes favorably after they get used to the new names and have adjusted to 
> them.
>
>
> Cathy Sheeter
> www.cathysheeter.com
> Aurora, CO 
>

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[cobirds] Re: The Last Magpie - University Blvd. - Arapahoe

[Jared Del Rosso]

Oh irony -- today, while waiting to cross University Blvd., I added a 54th 
species to my DU list: a Black-billed Magpie, who floated over (as magpies 
seem to do) the apartment buildings near campus. 

Thanks to everyone who sent me a message about magpies!

- Jared Del Rosso
Centennial, CO



On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:22:00 PM UTC-7 Jared Del Rosso wrote:

> I live a few houses off of S. University Blvd in Centennial. I work a few 
> streets off of S. University Blvd. at DU. 
>
> In my six years of making this commute, which is not much longer by car or 
> bus than by the flight of a crow, I've grown accustomed to seeing a single 
> magpie fly over University, just south of S. Hampden Blvd. (I saw one this 
> morning, which precipitated this post.)
>
> Then the species disappears, until (roughly) City Park in Denver. Crows 
> can be found at the King Soopers on University, just north of Hampden -- as 
> well as at the hot spots between Hampden and City Park. So, too, can Blue 
> Jays. 
>
> But there's a relative dearth of magpies for about 6 miles along 
> University.
>
> Of course, they're not entirely absent -- only relatively so. But they're 
> by no means common along this stretch.
>
> At both Wash Park and the Botanic Gardens, they're often not reported, and 
> they appear on fewer than 10% of checklists at both spots. I remember 
> seeing them at Denver Botanic Gardens once in my time birding there. (eBird 
> tells me I've submitted 198 complete checklists to the gardens.) I also 
> distinctly remember another member of their family -- I can't remember if 
> it was a Blue Jay or a Crow, though I think the latter -- escorting them 
> out of the area.
>
> By contrast, at deKoevend Park, which University borders in Centennial, 
> you'll (almost) always see magpies. It's the same at City Park. At both 
> places, Magpies are reported on roughly 40-100% of checklists at both 
> spots, on a week by week basis. (deKoevend has some weeks of very few 
> checklists, so there are weeks where there are no magpies reported.) 
>
> It's always struck me as a bit curious, though I'm sure the magpies have 
> their reasons. Maybe it has to do with the density of human buildings and 
> the extensiveness of "undeveloped" spaces." But it still seems odd to me 
> that both larger and smaller corvids, crows and jays, are at home in areas 
> that mapgies avoid.
>
> None of the three species seem to have changed their breeding range all 
> that much between the two Breeding Bird Atlases, though mapgies had the 
> largest decline in confirmed breeding of the three species. (Most of that 
> decline seems to have happened along the eastern edge of the state.)
>
> *What's in a name?*
>
> The scientific name of the Black-billed Magpie is *Pica hudsonia*. I grew 
> up in New York State, near the Hudson River; the *hudsonia* confused me, 
> since the birds are most definitely scarcer in New York State than they are 
> at Denver Botanic Gardens. (That is, they're not in NY.) But here it refers 
> to Hudson Bay in Saskatchewan, where it seems like Sabine encountered and 
> described them (but I haven't had a chance to dive into that effort).
>
> The genus name for magpies, Pica, connects the human with the bird. It 
> refers to an urge to eat or a behavior of eating non-nutritional foodstuff. 
> Apparently, the use of the word to describe human behavior comes from the 
> tendency of magpies to eat (or at least inspect) a great diversity of 
> potential food items. 
>
> Until somewhat recently (perhaps until 2000, according to this AOS 
> supplement 
> ),
>  
> "our" magpie was a subspecies of *Pica pica*, the common magpie of Europe 
> and much of Asia. I didn't start birding until a decade or so after that, 
> so perhaps someone with a longer memory than me can vouch for this.
>
> A few years ago, I watched a young magpie stare at one of my chickens. The 
> chicken stared back. They both seemed to recognize something in the other. 
> In typical magpie fashion, the young magpie then tried to tear a tag off a 
> small solar light near the chicken coop. That's really the only time I've 
> seen a magpie behave in the way we're told magpies behave -- with an 
> interest in collecting human objects.
>
> - Jared Del Rosso
> Centennial, CO
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[cobirds] Re: SAY'S Phoebe shot in Pueblo in 1820

[Jared Del Rosso]

I appreciate this historical anecdote. Names tell stories and the AOS's 
decision seems to have sparked interest in those stories and history. I 
think this is one of several good things that will come from the name 
change (which I support). These stories and histories are often 
complicated. Personally, I think knowing the stories and histories gives us 
some insight into the ornithologists, naturalists, people, and birds who 
came before us, allowing to celebrate the histories we believe worth 
celebrating and reckon with, as the AOS is, those we believe to be in need 
of reckoning. 

I also think these stories and histories can bring us, in an indirect way, 
a bit closer to the birds -- or, at least, how some people once saw them 
them. What stood out about those encounters with the birds? What was 
well-understood? Misunderstood? 

For instance, Wilson thought the bird that we'd come to call Wilson's 
Warbler was a flycatcher. He also named the bird with a descriptive: Green 
Black-capt Flycatcher, which is a bit closer to the name used in Mexico, 
where the bird overwinters. It was only later that it became his warbler. 
The same goes for the Snipe, which he just calls Snipe, and which everyone 
knew existed (since they hunted Snipes and knew they were different than 
the similar Woodcock) before he described them and gave them a scientific 
name.

Even before the AOS' announcement, I was thinking a bit about bird names. 
I'm writing a book about Eastern Whip-poor-wills in US culture. (Look for 
the book way in the future, circa 2025-2026, but please do look for it.) 
The first chapter I wrote was on the species' English name. The name is 
actually a sentence, though it's easy to forget this, which commands the 
whipping of Will. A strange command to know the bird by, but the bird's 
English name nonetheless. There are poems and children's stories that 
reference this about the bird -- using the Whip-poor-will's name and call 
as an opportunity to teach people (often children) to obey authority 
figures (usually parents) or risk the lash. Of course, Whip-poor-wills have 
no interest in how we punish each other, but they were -- through their 
name -- drawn into the violence of our world. (As were Chuck-will's-widows 
and, for a time, Black-whiskered Vireos, who were known as Whip-Tom-Kelly.) 
Before I started work on this book, I mainly spent my non-birding time 
researching, writing, and teaching on the history of torture. So I'm not 
particularly fond of a name that carries that history, but I'm also 
entranced by how iconic the species, their call, and, so, their name are. 
Personally, I admire the more evocative Spanish name (Cuerporruin) or the 
more descriptive French name (Bois-pourri), both of which are also said to 
echo the bird's call. 

A previous poster (apologies, I'm forgetting who), recommended *Mrs. 
Moreau's Warbler *as a potential source for those stories. I'll add to it 
Susan Myers' *The Bird Name Book*, which is a bit more like an encyclopedia 
of English bird names than *Mrs. Moreau's Warbler*. A rather different 
source is J. Drew Lanham's poem on bird names in *Sparrow Envy*.  It opens 
with the lines, "As a taxonomic committee of one / I alone have decided." 

The *Birds of the World* database can also provide insight into the history 
of bird names. Just click the encircled "i" next to the bird's scientific 
name or the names link (near the top of the bird's main profile page) to 
read about common names in other languages.

In the case of the Say's Phoebe, it tells us that Bonaparte got naming 
rights in 1825. You can read Bonaparte's account here 
.
 
Among other things, we learn that the bird that Titian Peale shot in Pueblo 
had an active nest, with two young birds about to fledge. The Say's 
Flycatcher may also have been discovered and described previously, but by 
the rules of the naming game, those earlier efforts weren't valid.

For a rather odd story, chase a MacGilvray's Warbler -- which is actually 
named after two different people: MacGilvray and an ornithologist named 
Tomlie. Audubon and Townsend are responsible for the mix-up, and I'm not 
yet sure what MacGilvray and Tolmie had to do with the species or why 
Audubon's selection (MacGilvray) superseded Townsend's (Tomlie, who 
Townsend also recognized in the scientific name: *Geothlypis tolmiei*.)

- Jared Del Rosso
Centennial, CO







On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 7:07:50 PM UTC-7 Leon Bright wrote:

> COBirders--  My friend Mark Yaeger, Colorado’s pre-imminent bird artist 
> and life-time Pueblo resident, sent me the email below. I believe it fits 
> the guideline our moderator has established and I think many will find it 
> of interest.
>
> Leon Bright – Pueblo
>
>  
>
>   Charles Wilson Peale the founder of the Pennsylvania Academy of Arts 
> and the Philadelphia Museum said this 

Re: [cobirds] Re: Benefits of Keeping the Original Bird Names. Moderator note

[Mark Hauswald]

As an old birder who is familiar with all these names I'd prefer to keep 
them.
If I was a brand new birder who was trying to sort out hundreds of species 
I'd much prefer names that would help me do that.
I'm going to New Zealand in January so will be in the latter camp then. 
Those names are often in Maori ! 

On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 1:13:43 PM UTC-7 Carla Richardson wrote:

> I am certainly not on the list for political discussions. But I will say 
> one thing and one thing only. Please do not call the United States "evil." 
> (From a previous post)
>
> Back to appropriate topic, personally I wish bird names would stay the 
> same as named by the people who discovered them. It is not fair to judge 
> others from other times, in a general sense. I'm pretty neutral about it, 
> though, I can understand the point, either way. 
>
> As a VERY NEW birder, it's hard enough to remember names without the names 
> changing continually. 
>
> Carla
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 12:44 PM David Suddjian  wrote:
>
>> Hi CoBirders,
>>
>> *List moderator note*. 
>> This has been an interesting (and polite) discussion, and certainly 
>> appropriate to CoBirds on the whole. As it proceeds I remind list members 
>> that CoBirds is about reporting on *birding in Colorado*, *Colorado 
>> birds* and things pertinent to these topics. For this issue, where there 
>> are strong opinions and deep feelings, I encourage the discussion to steer 
>> away from the lives of historic figures in contexts outside of Colorado 
>> birding. We can look those things up. Discussion of bird names and the 
>> plan and process to change them is fine.  You know what I'm trying to say. 
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> David Suddjian
>> CoBirds moderator
>> Littleton, CO
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 10:13 AM Susan Rosine  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not quite sure why we're still bringing up McCown, since "his" bird 
>>> already has a new moniker. 
>>>
>>> Interesting that you note "the Confederacy and the evils that it stood 
>>> for".
>>>
>>> Ten of the first twelve presidents owned slaves, and twelve presidents 
>>> altogether had slaves at some point. Yet, we have Washington, Jefferson, 
>>> Jackson and Grant on our money, stamps, etc.
>>>
>>> We also still honor men who pushed the Native American Indians from 
>>> their land. 
>>>
>>> Evil Confederacy? How about evil United States of America? 
>>>
>>> If at one point, it was simply decided that birds named after humans was 
>>> stupid in general, and therefore would all be renamed, that would be fine. 
>>> Annoying, because it's a lot of name changes all at once, but fine. 
>>> However, this all started because it was discovered a few of these men were 
>>> not perfect, wonderful human beings. Then there had to be intense study 
>>> into "just how evil" they really were. People started taking sides. These 
>>> men were sort of on trial posthumously. Good or bad, cool dude or evil dude?
>>>
>>> AOS finally decided, well let's just changed them all, so we don't have 
>>> to dig into each person's life. That's what I find to be ridiculous. They 
>>> should have just changed them all in the first place and we wouldn't be 
>>> having this discussion. 
>>>
>>> Susan Rosine
>>> Brighton 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 9:20 AM mille...@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Whether the mischaracterization of John McCown in this message as a 
 "brave hero who took the deadly risk to speaking against the Confederacy?" 
 is deliberately provocative or just ignorant I can't begin to diagnose, 
 but 
 it is certainly "fact-free." McCown is indeed credited with calling the 
 Confederacy a "damned stinking cotton oligarchy," but this was not some 
 repudiation of the Confederacy and all it stood for. No, it was made in 
 the 
 heat of a political squabble he was involved in with Jefferson Davis and 
 some of the other generals he had a disagreement with. The fact is that 
 John McCown resigned his United States Army commission at the beginning of 
 the war to take up arms against his country in defense of the Confederacy 
 and the evils it stood for, and he remained a commissioned general in that 
 force until the very end of the war.

 In any case, this example alone I think neatly illustrates *precisely* 
 why Bird Names for Birds originally formed, and why it has resulted in 
 this 
 decision by the AOS. If this is the quality of the supposed "history 
 lessons" we can expect to receive from an eponym, all diversity and 
 inclusion questions aside, we should have consigned these to the dustbin 
 decades ago. 

 vr/
 Max Miller
 Lakewood, CO
 On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 4:06:13 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:

> Hi
>
> What a fascinating discussion we are all having on Cobirds about the 
> implication of changing the names of birds.
>
>
> Birds named after historical individuals offer 

Re: [cobirds] Re: Benefits of Keeping the Original Bird Names. Moderator note

[Carla Richardson]

I am certainly not on the list for political discussions. But I will say
one thing and one thing only. Please do not call the United States "evil."
(From a previous post)

Back to appropriate topic, personally I wish bird names would stay the same
as named by the people who discovered them. It is not fair to judge others
from other times, in a general sense. I'm pretty neutral about it, though,
I can understand the point, either way.

As a VERY NEW birder, it's hard enough to remember names without the names
changing continually.

Carla

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 12:44 PM David Suddjian  wrote:

> Hi CoBirders,
>
> *List moderator note*.
> This has been an interesting (and polite) discussion, and certainly
> appropriate to CoBirds on the whole. As it proceeds I remind list members
> that CoBirds is about reporting on *birding in Colorado*, *Colorado birds*
> and things pertinent to these topics. For this issue, where there are
> strong opinions and deep feelings, I encourage the discussion to steer away
> from the lives of historic figures in contexts outside of Colorado birding.
> We can look those things up. Discussion of bird names and the plan and
> process to change them is fine.  You know what I'm trying to say.
>
> Thank you,
>
> David Suddjian
> CoBirds moderator
> Littleton, CO
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 10:13 AM Susan Rosine  wrote:
>
>> I'm not quite sure why we're still bringing up McCown, since "his" bird
>> already has a new moniker.
>>
>> Interesting that you note "the Confederacy and the evils that it stood
>> for".
>>
>> Ten of the first twelve presidents owned slaves, and twelve presidents
>> altogether had slaves at some point. Yet, we have Washington, Jefferson,
>> Jackson and Grant on our money, stamps, etc.
>>
>> We also still honor men who pushed the Native American Indians from their
>> land.
>>
>> Evil Confederacy? How about evil United States of America?
>>
>> If at one point, it was simply decided that birds named after humans was
>> stupid in general, and therefore would all be renamed, that would be fine.
>> Annoying, because it's a lot of name changes all at once, but fine.
>> However, this all started because it was discovered a few of these men were
>> not perfect, wonderful human beings. Then there had to be intense study
>> into "just how evil" they really were. People started taking sides. These
>> men were sort of on trial posthumously. Good or bad, cool dude or evil dude?
>>
>> AOS finally decided, well let's just changed them all, so we don't have
>> to dig into each person's life. That's what I find to be ridiculous. They
>> should have just changed them all in the first place and we wouldn't be
>> having this discussion.
>>
>> Susan Rosine
>> Brighton
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 9:20 AM mille...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Whether the mischaracterization of John McCown in this message as a
>>> "brave hero who took the deadly risk to speaking against the Confederacy?"
>>> is deliberately provocative or just ignorant I can't begin to diagnose, but
>>> it is certainly "fact-free." McCown is indeed credited with calling the
>>> Confederacy a "damned stinking cotton oligarchy," but this was not some
>>> repudiation of the Confederacy and all it stood for. No, it was made in the
>>> heat of a political squabble he was involved in with Jefferson Davis and
>>> some of the other generals he had a disagreement with. The fact is that
>>> John McCown resigned his United States Army commission at the beginning of
>>> the war to take up arms against his country in defense of the Confederacy
>>> and the evils it stood for, and he remained a commissioned general in that
>>> force until the very end of the war.
>>>
>>> In any case, this example alone I think neatly illustrates *precisely*
>>> why Bird Names for Birds originally formed, and why it has resulted in this
>>> decision by the AOS. If this is the quality of the supposed "history
>>> lessons" we can expect to receive from an eponym, all diversity and
>>> inclusion questions aside, we should have consigned these to the dustbin
>>> decades ago.
>>>
>>> vr/
>>> Max Miller
>>> Lakewood, CO
>>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 4:06:13 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:
>>>
 Hi

 What a fascinating discussion we are all having on Cobirds about the
 implication of changing the names of birds.


 Birds named after historical individuals offer important links to the
 rich history,  good and bad, about  how our country was formed but also how
 the history of birds evolved from hunting to the trill of bird watching, to
 the impressive  transformation from birding into an important scientific
 organization,  American Ornithological Union AOU.


 Here are some brief examples of some:


 Lewis’s Woodpecker, named after Meriwether Lewis, the co-leader of the
 stupendously successful Lewis and Clark Expedition in the early 1800s which
 explored all the new land west to 

Re: [cobirds] Re: Benefits of Keeping the Original Bird Names. Moderator note

[David Suddjian]

Thank you. The purpose of the group is to discuss /Colorado birds and
birding in Colorado. Issues that raise impassioned replies are fairly rare
on CoBirds in the last few years, and it is not always clear where the
discussion will go. I felt things were polite, and commented only when I
thought things were heading over the line today. The overall topic is
appropriate for the list.

David Suddjian
Cobirds list moderator
Littleton, CO

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 1:05 PM hen...@shendrix.com 
wrote:

> Thanks David.  Personally, I'd be in favor of more heavy-handed moderation
> to remove discussions of this topic or similar entirely. There are plenty
> of places to find debate on divisive topics. There are fewer and fewer
> places that are absent of it.  This is not what I was looking for when I
> subscribed to this group, and I have been looking for tools to filter these
> posts out of my feed (largely unsuccessfully so far).  I may have
> misunderstood the purpose of this group, however, and if so, that is on me.
>
> Disclaimer: I am but one lowly amateur birder, and this is just my opinion.
>
> Respectfully,
> Stephen Hendrix
> Denver, CO
>
> On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 12:44:29 PM UTC-7 David Suddjian wrote:
>
>> Hi CoBirders,
>>
>> *List moderator note*.
>> This has been an interesting (and polite) discussion, and certainly
>> appropriate to CoBirds on the whole. As it proceeds I remind list members
>> that CoBirds is about reporting on *birding in Colorado*, *Colorado
>> birds* and things pertinent to these topics. For this issue, where there
>> are strong opinions and deep feelings, I encourage the discussion to steer
>> away from the lives of historic figures in contexts outside of Colorado
>> birding. We can look those things up. Discussion of bird names and the
>> plan and process to change them is fine.  You know what I'm trying to say.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> David Suddjian
>> CoBirds moderator
>> Littleton, CO
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 10:13 AM Susan Rosine  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not quite sure why we're still bringing up McCown, since "his" bird
>>> already has a new moniker.
>>>
>>> Interesting that you note "the Confederacy and the evils that it stood
>>> for".
>>>
>>> Ten of the first twelve presidents owned slaves, and twelve presidents
>>> altogether had slaves at some point. Yet, we have Washington, Jefferson,
>>> Jackson and Grant on our money, stamps, etc.
>>>
>>> We also still honor men who pushed the Native American Indians from
>>> their land.
>>>
>>> Evil Confederacy? How about evil United States of America?
>>>
>>> If at one point, it was simply decided that birds named after humans was
>>> stupid in general, and therefore would all be renamed, that would be fine.
>>> Annoying, because it's a lot of name changes all at once, but fine.
>>> However, this all started because it was discovered a few of these men were
>>> not perfect, wonderful human beings. Then there had to be intense study
>>> into "just how evil" they really were. People started taking sides. These
>>> men were sort of on trial posthumously. Good or bad, cool dude or evil dude?
>>>
>>> AOS finally decided, well let's just changed them all, so we don't have
>>> to dig into each person's life. That's what I find to be ridiculous. They
>>> should have just changed them all in the first place and we wouldn't be
>>> having this discussion.
>>>
>>> Susan Rosine
>>> Brighton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 9:20 AM mille...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Whether the mischaracterization of John McCown in this message as a
 "brave hero who took the deadly risk to speaking against the Confederacy?"
 is deliberately provocative or just ignorant I can't begin to diagnose, but
 it is certainly "fact-free." McCown is indeed credited with calling the
 Confederacy a "damned stinking cotton oligarchy," but this was not some
 repudiation of the Confederacy and all it stood for. No, it was made in the
 heat of a political squabble he was involved in with Jefferson Davis and
 some of the other generals he had a disagreement with. The fact is that
 John McCown resigned his United States Army commission at the beginning of
 the war to take up arms against his country in defense of the Confederacy
 and the evils it stood for, and he remained a commissioned general in that
 force until the very end of the war.

 In any case, this example alone I think neatly illustrates *precisely*
 why Bird Names for Birds originally formed, and why it has resulted in this
 decision by the AOS. If this is the quality of the supposed "history
 lessons" we can expect to receive from an eponym, all diversity and
 inclusion questions aside, we should have consigned these to the dustbin
 decades ago.

 vr/
 Max Miller
 Lakewood, CO
 On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 4:06:13 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:

> Hi
>
> What a fascinating discussion we are all 

Re: [cobirds] Re: Benefits of Keeping the Original Bird Names. Moderator note

[hen...@shendrix.com]

Thanks David.  Personally, I'd be in favor of more heavy-handed moderation 
to remove discussions of this topic or similar entirely. There are plenty 
of places to find debate on divisive topics. There are fewer and fewer 
places that are absent of it.  This is not what I was looking for when I 
subscribed to this group, and I have been looking for tools to filter these 
posts out of my feed (largely unsuccessfully so far).  I may have 
misunderstood the purpose of this group, however, and if so, that is on me.

Disclaimer: I am but one lowly amateur birder, and this is just my opinion.

Respectfully,
Stephen Hendrix
Denver, CO

On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 12:44:29 PM UTC-7 David Suddjian wrote:

> Hi CoBirders,
>
> *List moderator note*. 
> This has been an interesting (and polite) discussion, and certainly 
> appropriate to CoBirds on the whole. As it proceeds I remind list members 
> that CoBirds is about reporting on *birding in Colorado*, *Colorado birds* 
> and things pertinent to these topics. For this issue, where there are 
> strong opinions and deep feelings, I encourage the discussion to steer away 
> from the lives of historic figures in contexts outside of Colorado birding. 
> We can look those things up. Discussion of bird names and the plan and 
> process to change them is fine.  You know what I'm trying to say. 
>
> Thank you,
>
> David Suddjian
> CoBirds moderator
> Littleton, CO
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 10:13 AM Susan Rosine  wrote:
>
>> I'm not quite sure why we're still bringing up McCown, since "his" bird 
>> already has a new moniker. 
>>
>> Interesting that you note "the Confederacy and the evils that it stood 
>> for".
>>
>> Ten of the first twelve presidents owned slaves, and twelve presidents 
>> altogether had slaves at some point. Yet, we have Washington, Jefferson, 
>> Jackson and Grant on our money, stamps, etc.
>>
>> We also still honor men who pushed the Native American Indians from their 
>> land. 
>>
>> Evil Confederacy? How about evil United States of America? 
>>
>> If at one point, it was simply decided that birds named after humans was 
>> stupid in general, and therefore would all be renamed, that would be fine. 
>> Annoying, because it's a lot of name changes all at once, but fine. 
>> However, this all started because it was discovered a few of these men were 
>> not perfect, wonderful human beings. Then there had to be intense study 
>> into "just how evil" they really were. People started taking sides. These 
>> men were sort of on trial posthumously. Good or bad, cool dude or evil dude?
>>
>> AOS finally decided, well let's just changed them all, so we don't have 
>> to dig into each person's life. That's what I find to be ridiculous. They 
>> should have just changed them all in the first place and we wouldn't be 
>> having this discussion. 
>>
>> Susan Rosine
>> Brighton 
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 9:20 AM mille...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Whether the mischaracterization of John McCown in this message as a 
>>> "brave hero who took the deadly risk to speaking against the Confederacy?" 
>>> is deliberately provocative or just ignorant I can't begin to diagnose, but 
>>> it is certainly "fact-free." McCown is indeed credited with calling the 
>>> Confederacy a "damned stinking cotton oligarchy," but this was not some 
>>> repudiation of the Confederacy and all it stood for. No, it was made in the 
>>> heat of a political squabble he was involved in with Jefferson Davis and 
>>> some of the other generals he had a disagreement with. The fact is that 
>>> John McCown resigned his United States Army commission at the beginning of 
>>> the war to take up arms against his country in defense of the Confederacy 
>>> and the evils it stood for, and he remained a commissioned general in that 
>>> force until the very end of the war.
>>>
>>> In any case, this example alone I think neatly illustrates *precisely* 
>>> why Bird Names for Birds originally formed, and why it has resulted in this 
>>> decision by the AOS. If this is the quality of the supposed "history 
>>> lessons" we can expect to receive from an eponym, all diversity and 
>>> inclusion questions aside, we should have consigned these to the dustbin 
>>> decades ago. 
>>>
>>> vr/
>>> Max Miller
>>> Lakewood, CO
>>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 4:06:13 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:
>>>
 Hi

 What a fascinating discussion we are all having on Cobirds about the 
 implication of changing the names of birds.


 Birds named after historical individuals offer important links to the 
 rich history,  good and bad, about  how our country was formed but also 
 how 
 the history of birds evolved from hunting to the trill of bird watching, 
 to 
 the impressive  transformation from birding into an important scientific 
 organization,  American Ornithological Union AOU.


 Here are some brief examples of some:


 Lewis’s Woodpecker, 

Re: [cobirds] Re: Benefits of Keeping the Original Bird Names. Moderator note

[David Suddjian]

Hi CoBirders,

*List moderator note*.
This has been an interesting (and polite) discussion, and certainly
appropriate to CoBirds on the whole. As it proceeds I remind list members
that CoBirds is about reporting on *birding in Colorado*, *Colorado birds*
and things pertinent to these topics. For this issue, where there are
strong opinions and deep feelings, I encourage the discussion to steer away
from the lives of historic figures in contexts outside of Colorado birding.
We can look those things up. Discussion of bird names and the plan and
process to change them is fine.  You know what I'm trying to say.

Thank you,

David Suddjian
CoBirds moderator
Littleton, CO

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 10:13 AM Susan Rosine  wrote:

> I'm not quite sure why we're still bringing up McCown, since "his" bird
> already has a new moniker.
>
> Interesting that you note "the Confederacy and the evils that it stood
> for".
>
> Ten of the first twelve presidents owned slaves, and twelve presidents
> altogether had slaves at some point. Yet, we have Washington, Jefferson,
> Jackson and Grant on our money, stamps, etc.
>
> We also still honor men who pushed the Native American Indians from their
> land.
>
> Evil Confederacy? How about evil United States of America?
>
> If at one point, it was simply decided that birds named after humans was
> stupid in general, and therefore would all be renamed, that would be fine.
> Annoying, because it's a lot of name changes all at once, but fine.
> However, this all started because it was discovered a few of these men were
> not perfect, wonderful human beings. Then there had to be intense study
> into "just how evil" they really were. People started taking sides. These
> men were sort of on trial posthumously. Good or bad, cool dude or evil dude?
>
> AOS finally decided, well let's just changed them all, so we don't have to
> dig into each person's life. That's what I find to be ridiculous. They
> should have just changed them all in the first place and we wouldn't be
> having this discussion.
>
> Susan Rosine
> Brighton
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 9:20 AM mille...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Whether the mischaracterization of John McCown in this message as a
>> "brave hero who took the deadly risk to speaking against the Confederacy?"
>> is deliberately provocative or just ignorant I can't begin to diagnose, but
>> it is certainly "fact-free." McCown is indeed credited with calling the
>> Confederacy a "damned stinking cotton oligarchy," but this was not some
>> repudiation of the Confederacy and all it stood for. No, it was made in the
>> heat of a political squabble he was involved in with Jefferson Davis and
>> some of the other generals he had a disagreement with. The fact is that
>> John McCown resigned his United States Army commission at the beginning of
>> the war to take up arms against his country in defense of the Confederacy
>> and the evils it stood for, and he remained a commissioned general in that
>> force until the very end of the war.
>>
>> In any case, this example alone I think neatly illustrates *precisely*
>> why Bird Names for Birds originally formed, and why it has resulted in this
>> decision by the AOS. If this is the quality of the supposed "history
>> lessons" we can expect to receive from an eponym, all diversity and
>> inclusion questions aside, we should have consigned these to the dustbin
>> decades ago.
>>
>> vr/
>> Max Miller
>> Lakewood, CO
>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 4:06:13 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> What a fascinating discussion we are all having on Cobirds about the
>>> implication of changing the names of birds.
>>>
>>>
>>> Birds named after historical individuals offer important links to the
>>> rich history,  good and bad, about  how our country was formed but also how
>>> the history of birds evolved from hunting to the trill of bird watching, to
>>> the impressive  transformation from birding into an important scientific
>>> organization,  American Ornithological Union AOU.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are some brief examples of some:
>>>
>>>
>>> Lewis’s Woodpecker, named after Meriwether Lewis, the co-leader of the
>>> stupendously successful Lewis and Clark Expedition in the early 1800s which
>>> explored all the new land west to the Pacific Ocean.
>>>
>>>
>>> John Cassin (Cassin’s Finch, Cassin’s Kingbird and many more) from the
>>> Philadelphia Academy of Natural Science was one of the foremost
>>> ornithologist of the ninetieth century describing numerous new bird
>>> species. He fought form the Union Army during the Civil War, captured by
>>> the Confederate Army, and spent the rest of the war in the sadistic Libby
>>> Prison, not many survived, he was lucky, but died shortly afterwards
>>>
>>>
>>> John McCowen, (McCown’s Longspur),  now the Thick-billed Longspur. was a
>>> Major General in the Confederate Army, He was a brilliant tactician with
>>> just a few hundred men and one piece of artillery, he defeated an entire
>>> 

[cobirds] Re: [wsbn] Colorado Christmas Bird Count Dates 2023-24

[Shep & Mary Harris]

Hi Brandon,
Roaring Fork Audubon's CBC will be Dec 16
Thanks,
Mary Harris
Chair Roaring Fork Audubon

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:01 PM Brandon  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Christmas Bird Count season is coming, counts can be held from December
> 14, 2023 to January 5, 2024.
>
> Compilers may enter their date and other info onto the CBC Website, once
> they know when it will be.  The following dates have been posted on the CBC
> Website so far.
>
> *Granby* - Saturday, 16 December 2023
> *North JeffCo* - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> *Nunn* - Sunday, 17 December 2023
> *Denver (Urban)* - Monday, 1 January 2024
>
> Compilers for other counts can send me the information and I enter it to
> the CBC Website, if you want.
> Air Force Academy
> Aspen
> Black Forest
> Bonny Reservoir
> Cortez
> Crook
> Colorado Springs
> Douglas County
> Denver
> Delta
> Dotsero
> Evergreen-Idaho Springs
> Eagle Valley
> Fairplay
> Fort Collins
> Flagler
> Fountain Creek
> Grand Junction
> Grand Mesa
> Greeley
> Great Sand Dunes N.P.
> Gunnison
> Hotchkiss
> John Martin Reservoir
> Lake Isabel
> Longmont
> Loveland
> Montrose
> Monte Vista N.W.R.
> Penrose
> Pinon Canyon
> Pueblo Reservoir
> Pagosa Springs
> Pueblo
> Rawhide Energy Station
> Rifle Creek
> Roaring Fork River Valley
> Rocky Mountain N.P.
> Rocky Ford
> Salida
> Spanish Peaks
> Steamboat Springs
> Summit County
> Westcliffe
> Weldona-Fort Morgan
> Windy Peak Area
>
> Brandon K. Percival
> Colorado Christmas Bird Count Regional Editor
> Pueblo West, CO
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Re: [cobirds] Re: Benefits of Keeping the Original Bird Names.

[Susan Rosine]

I'm not quite sure why we're still bringing up McCown, since "his" bird
already has a new moniker.

Interesting that you note "the Confederacy and the evils that it stood for".

Ten of the first twelve presidents owned slaves, and twelve presidents
altogether had slaves at some point. Yet, we have Washington, Jefferson,
Jackson and Grant on our money, stamps, etc.

We also still honor men who pushed the Native American Indians from their
land.

Evil Confederacy? How about evil United States of America?

If at one point, it was simply decided that birds named after humans was
stupid in general, and therefore would all be renamed, that would be fine.
Annoying, because it's a lot of name changes all at once, but fine.
However, this all started because it was discovered a few of these men were
not perfect, wonderful human beings. Then there had to be intense study
into "just how evil" they really were. People started taking sides. These
men were sort of on trial posthumously. Good or bad, cool dude or evil dude?

AOS finally decided, well let's just changed them all, so we don't have to
dig into each person's life. That's what I find to be ridiculous. They
should have just changed them all in the first place and we wouldn't be
having this discussion.

Susan Rosine
Brighton


On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 9:20 AM mille...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Whether the mischaracterization of John McCown in this message as a "brave
> hero who took the deadly risk to speaking against the Confederacy?" is
> deliberately provocative or just ignorant I can't begin to diagnose, but it
> is certainly "fact-free." McCown is indeed credited with calling the
> Confederacy a "damned stinking cotton oligarchy," but this was not some
> repudiation of the Confederacy and all it stood for. No, it was made in the
> heat of a political squabble he was involved in with Jefferson Davis and
> some of the other generals he had a disagreement with. The fact is that
> John McCown resigned his United States Army commission at the beginning of
> the war to take up arms against his country in defense of the Confederacy
> and the evils it stood for, and he remained a commissioned general in that
> force until the very end of the war.
>
> In any case, this example alone I think neatly illustrates *precisely* why
> Bird Names for Birds originally formed, and why it has resulted in this
> decision by the AOS. If this is the quality of the supposed "history
> lessons" we can expect to receive from an eponym, all diversity and
> inclusion questions aside, we should have consigned these to the dustbin
> decades ago.
>
> vr/
> Max Miller
> Lakewood, CO
> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 4:06:13 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> What a fascinating discussion we are all having on Cobirds about the
>> implication of changing the names of birds.
>>
>>
>> Birds named after historical individuals offer important links to the
>> rich history,  good and bad, about  how our country was formed but also how
>> the history of birds evolved from hunting to the trill of bird watching, to
>> the impressive  transformation from birding into an important scientific
>> organization,  American Ornithological Union AOU.
>>
>>
>> Here are some brief examples of some:
>>
>>
>> Lewis’s Woodpecker, named after Meriwether Lewis, the co-leader of the
>> stupendously successful Lewis and Clark Expedition in the early 1800s which
>> explored all the new land west to the Pacific Ocean.
>>
>>
>> John Cassin (Cassin’s Finch, Cassin’s Kingbird and many more) from the
>> Philadelphia Academy of Natural Science was one of the foremost
>> ornithologist of the ninetieth century describing numerous new bird
>> species. He fought form the Union Army during the Civil War, captured by
>> the Confederate Army, and spent the rest of the war in the sadistic Libby
>> Prison, not many survived, he was lucky, but died shortly afterwards
>>
>>
>> John McCowen, (McCown’s Longspur),  now the Thick-billed Longspur. was a
>> Major General in the Confederate Army, He was a brilliant tactician with
>> just a few hundred men and one piece of artillery, he defeated an entire
>> division of Union cavalry. McCown became disillusioned with the purpose  of
>> Confederacy and argued against it’s goals and is is quoted as  saying about
>> the Confederacy, *“…a damned stinking cotton oligarchy.*
>>
>> Was McCown a villain or a brave hero who took the deadly risk to speaking
>> against the Confederacy?
>>
>>
>> Steller’s Jay named after Georg Steller a brilliant German scientist who
>> was asked by Peter the Great to explore Russia, which he did during the
>> winter by dog sled. Hooked up with Captain Bering and set sail to the east
>> and where they discovered Alaska, then spent years ship wrecked on  Bering
>> Island in the middle of the Aleutian Islands. He survived most others
>> didn’t.
>>
>>
>> This is just a taste of the intriguing history that underlies each of the
>> bird species named after historic 

Re: [cobirds] Re: Benefits of Keeping the Original Bird Names.

[Evan Wilder]

Well said, Max.No, I would rather not be thinking about Confederate generals while I am birdwatching. In fact, neither would I prefer to think about explorers who “discovered” a species. Does that fact that Georg Steller named the species 300 years ago really have anything to do with the role that the Steller’s Jay has played in the ecosystem for millions of years?Of course none of these species or names are exempt from their modern history, so let’s keep it well documented for those in the future that desire to look deeper than the soon to be non-eponymous name.- EvanOn Nov 6, 2023, at 9:20 AM, mille...@gmail.com  wrote:Whether the mischaracterization of John McCown in this message as a "brave hero who took the deadly risk to speaking against the Confederacy?" is deliberately provocative or just ignorant I can't begin to diagnose, but it is certainly "fact-free." McCown is indeed credited with calling the Confederacy a "damned stinking cotton oligarchy," but this was not some repudiation of the Confederacy and all it stood for. No, it was made in the heat of a political squabble he was involved in with Jefferson Davis and some of the other generals he had a disagreement with. The fact is that John McCown resigned his United States Army commission at the beginning of the war to take up arms against his country in defense of the Confederacy and the evils it stood for, and he remained a commissioned general in that force until the very end of the war.In any case, this example alone I think neatly illustrates *precisely* why Bird Names for Birds originally formed, and why it has resulted in this decision by the AOS. If this is the quality of the supposed "history lessons" we can expect to receive from an eponym, all diversity and inclusion questions aside, we should have consigned these to the dustbin decades ago. vr/Max MillerLakewood, COOn Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 4:06:13 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:HiWhat a fascinating discussion we are all having on Cobirds about the implication of changing the names of birds.Birds named after historical individuals offer important links to the rich history,  good and bad, about  how our country was formed but also how the history of birds evolved from hunting to the trill of bird watching, to the impressive  transformation from birding into an important scientific organization,  American Ornithological Union AOU.Here are some brief examples of some:Lewis’s Woodpecker, named after Meriwether Lewis, the co-leader of the stupendously successful Lewis and Clark Expedition in the early 1800s which explored all the new land west to the Pacific Ocean. John Cassin (Cassin’s Finch, Cassin’s Kingbird and many more) from the Philadelphia Academy of Natural Science was one of the foremost ornithologist of the ninetieth century describing numerous new bird species. He fought form the Union Army during the Civil War, captured by the Confederate Army, and spent the rest of the war in the sadistic Libby Prison, not many survived, he was lucky, but died shortly afterwards John McCowen, (McCown’s Longspur),  now the Thick-billed Longspur. was a Major General in the Confederate Army, He was a brilliant tactician with just a few hundred men and one piece of artillery, he defeated an entire division of Union cavalry. McCown became disillusioned with the purpose  of Confederacy and argued against it’s goals and is is quoted as  saying about the Confederacy, “…a damned stinking cotton oligarchy.Was McCown a villain or a brave hero who took the deadly risk to speaking against the Confederacy?Steller’s Jay named after Georg Steller a brilliant German scientist who was asked by Peter the Great to explore Russia, which he did during the winter by dog sled. Hooked up with Captain Bering and set sail to the east and where they discovered Alaska, then spent years ship wrecked on  Bering Island in the middle of the Aleutian Islands. He survived most others didn’t. This is just a taste of the intriguing history that underlies each of the bird species named after historic naturalist and ornithologist. More involved biographies of each  can be found in the Colorado Field Ornithologist Journals or just tap into Google & WikipediaDo you think this level of information enhance bird watching or not.Bob RighterDenver CO



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[cobirds] Re: Benefits of Keeping the Original Bird Names.

[mille...@gmail.com]

Whether the mischaracterization of John McCown in this message as a "brave 
hero who took the deadly risk to speaking against the Confederacy?" is 
deliberately provocative or just ignorant I can't begin to diagnose, but it 
is certainly "fact-free." McCown is indeed credited with calling the 
Confederacy a "damned stinking cotton oligarchy," but this was not some 
repudiation of the Confederacy and all it stood for. No, it was made in the 
heat of a political squabble he was involved in with Jefferson Davis and 
some of the other generals he had a disagreement with. The fact is that 
John McCown resigned his United States Army commission at the beginning of 
the war to take up arms against his country in defense of the Confederacy 
and the evils it stood for, and he remained a commissioned general in that 
force until the very end of the war.

In any case, this example alone I think neatly illustrates *precisely* why 
Bird Names for Birds originally formed, and why it has resulted in this 
decision by the AOS. If this is the quality of the supposed "history 
lessons" we can expect to receive from an eponym, all diversity and 
inclusion questions aside, we should have consigned these to the dustbin 
decades ago. 

vr/
Max Miller
Lakewood, CO
On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 4:06:13 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:

> Hi
>
> What a fascinating discussion we are all having on Cobirds about the 
> implication of changing the names of birds.
>
>
> Birds named after historical individuals offer important links to the rich 
> history,  good and bad, about  how our country was formed but also how the 
> history of birds evolved from hunting to the trill of bird watching, to the 
> impressive  transformation from birding into an important scientific 
> organization,  American Ornithological Union AOU.
>
>
> Here are some brief examples of some:
>
>
> Lewis’s Woodpecker, named after Meriwether Lewis, the co-leader of the 
> stupendously successful Lewis and Clark Expedition in the early 1800s which 
> explored all the new land west to the Pacific Ocean. 
>
>
> John Cassin (Cassin’s Finch, Cassin’s Kingbird and many more) from the 
> Philadelphia Academy of Natural Science was one of the foremost 
> ornithologist of the ninetieth century describing numerous new bird 
> species. He fought form the Union Army during the Civil War, captured by 
> the Confederate Army, and spent the rest of the war in the sadistic Libby 
> Prison, not many survived, he was lucky, but died shortly afterwards 
>
>
> John McCowen, (McCown’s Longspur),  now the Thick-billed Longspur. was a 
> Major General in the Confederate Army, He was a brilliant tactician with 
> just a few hundred men and one piece of artillery, he defeated an entire 
> division of Union cavalry. McCown became disillusioned with the purpose  of 
> Confederacy and argued against it’s goals and is is quoted as  saying about 
> the Confederacy, *“…a damned stinking cotton oligarchy.*
>
> Was McCown a villain or a brave hero who took the deadly risk to speaking 
> against the Confederacy?
>
>
> Steller’s Jay named after Georg Steller a brilliant German scientist who 
> was asked by Peter the Great to explore Russia, which he did during the 
> winter by dog sled. Hooked up with Captain Bering and set sail to the east 
> and where they discovered Alaska, then spent years ship wrecked on  Bering 
> Island in the middle of the Aleutian Islands. He survived most others 
> didn’t.
>
>  
> This is just a taste of the intriguing history that underlies each of the 
> bird species named after historic naturalist and ornithologist. More 
> involved biographies of each  can be found in the *Colorado 
> Field Ornithologist* Journals or just tap into Google & Wikipedia
>
> Do you think this level of information enhance bird watching or not.
>
> Bob Righter
> Denver CO
>
>
>
>

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Re: [cobirds] Re: AOU, Changing bird names

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Thanks Mel. 
John Rawinski
Monte Vista CO

On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 8:12:12 PM UTC-6 Mel Goff wrote:

> John, 
> They only said they would have "public input", so that may not even 
> include any birders. Especially older birders who may not fall into the 
> target audience for the exercise. 
>   
> Mel Goff 
> Colorado Springs, CO 
>
> On 11/04/2023 6:23 PM MDT mvjo...@gmail.com  wrote: 
>   
>   
> And I have a question and hope I did not miss anything in this lengthy 
> thread. Will AOS accept our suggestions for possible name changes? Seems 
> like we in the field have an excellent grasp of possible features and 
> habitats. Seems to me they should take a participatory and inclusive 
> approach and invite suggestions and ideas.  
>   
> John Rawinski 
> Monte Vista, CO 
>
> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 3:28:25 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote: 
>
> Hi: 
>   
>
> I would hope the American Ornithological Union would pause before changing 
> common names of birds that are named after historic ornithologists as that 
> could be divisive . Currently we are living in a period of time where 
> accusations of racism are rampant and consequently we are currently judging 
> past historic figures based on our current definition of how racist they 
> may have been. This is how history becomes distorted and historic 
> individuals unfortunately become misjudged. Let’s wait a decade or so and 
> revisit the topic again when hopefully our lenses are clearer, less 
> tainted. Why are we in such the rush to change the common names of birds 
> that have been established for centuries. We all need to take a deep breath 
> or two and wait to see what transpires.
>
>  
>
> Bob Righter
>
> Denver, CO
>
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Re: [cobirds] Re: AOU, Changing bird names

[Noelle Nicholson]

A lot of great opinions have already been expressed, but I have one more point of view to throw in the mix. I’m including two quotes below about names, one by Mary Oliver, the other by Robin Wall Kimmerer. I think of these words often because the name of a bird can be the least important thing about it, even though it’s sometimes the first thing I want to know. What about its song, its body contour, its bill shape, its place in the landscape? Most of our names are arbitrary and unrelated to what makes that bird that bird. And yet…I do feel Oliver’s same “inexplicable delight” in knowing a bird’s name. When I can call a Wilson’s Warbler a Wilson’s Warbler and not just an amazing little yellow and black bird, I feel that I’m respecting them, as Kimmerer says, and taking the tiniest step towards a more reciprocal relationship. But if we call birds by their names as a matter of respect, is calling them by the name of people who enslaved or degraded other people an act of respect? “Little Bird in the Pepper Tree” Don't mind my inexplicable delightto know your name,Wilson's warbler,yellow as a lemon, with a black cap.Just do what you do, dipping branch by branchdown to the fountainto sip neatly; then fly away.A name is not a leash. -Mary Oliver  It's a sign of respect and connection to learn the name of someone else, a sign of disrespect to ignore it. And yet, the average American can name over a hundred corporate logos and ten plants. Is it a surprise that we have accepted a political system that grants personhood to corporations, and no status at all for wild rice and redwoods? Learning the names of plants and animals is a powerful act of support for them. When we learn their names and their gifts, it opens the door to reciprocity. - Robin Wall KimmererNoelle Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 4, 2023, at 22:13, Stephen H  wrote:I agree Robert. I don't find the arguments for removing all eponymous bird names here or elsewhere very convincing and believe this to be more about politics & power seeking from the activists involved.To quote one of the co-founders of "Bird Names for Birds" who was behind the effort, "Smash the patriarchy and celebrate birds?! That’s my new motto according to the news today."On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 3:28:25 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:Hi:I would hope the American Ornithological Union would pause before changing common names of birds that are named after historic ornithologists as that could be divisive . Currently we are living in a period of time where accusations of racism are rampant and consequently we are currently judging past historic figures based on our current definition of how racist they may have been. This is how history becomes distorted and historic individuals unfortunately become misjudged. Let’s wait a decade or so and revisit the topic again when hopefully our lenses are clearer, less tainted. Why are we in such the rush to change the common names of birds that have been established for centuries. We all need to take a deep breath or two and wait to see what transpires.Bob RighterDenver, CO



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[cobirds] Re: AOU, Changing bird names

[Stephen H]

I agree Robert. I don't find the arguments for removing all eponymous bird 
names here or elsewhere very convincing and believe this to be more about 
politics & power seeking from the activists involved.

To quote one of the co-founders of "Bird Names for Birds" who was behind 
the effort, "Smash the patriarchy and celebrate birds?! That’s my new motto 
according to the news today."



On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 3:28:25 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I would hope the American Ornithological Union would pause before changing 
> common names of birds that are named after historic ornithologists as that 
> could be divisive . Currently we are living in a period of time where 
> accusations of racism are rampant and consequently we are currently judging 
> past historic figures based on our current definition of how racist they 
> may have been. This is how history becomes distorted and historic 
> individuals unfortunately become misjudged. Let’s wait a decade or so and 
> revisit the topic again when hopefully our lenses are clearer, less 
> tainted. Why are we in such the rush to change the common names of birds 
> that have been established for centuries. We all need to take a deep breath 
> or two and wait to see what transpires.
>
>
> Bob Righter
>
> Denver, CO
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Re: [cobirds] Re: AOU, Changing bird names

[Mel Goff]

John,
They only said they would have "public input", so that may not even include any 
birders. Especially older birders who may not fall into the target audience for 
the exercise.
 
Mel Goff
Colorado Springs, CO

> On 11/04/2023 6:23 PM MDT mvjo...@gmail.com  wrote:
>  
>  
> And I have a question and hope I did not miss anything in this lengthy 
> thread. Will AOS accept our suggestions for possible name changes? Seems like 
> we in the field have an excellent grasp of possible features and habitats. 
> Seems to me they should take a participatory and inclusive approach and 
> invite suggestions and ideas. 
>  
> John Rawinski
> Monte Vista, CO
> 
> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 3:28:25 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:
> 
> > Hi:
> >  
> > I would hope the American Ornithological Union would pause before changing 
> > common names of birds that are named after historic ornithologists as that 
> > could be divisive . Currently we are living in a period of time where 
> > accusations of racism are rampant and consequently we are currently judging 
> > past historic figures based on our current definition of how racist they 
> > may have been. This is how history becomes distorted and historic 
> > individuals unfortunately become misjudged. Let’s wait a decade or so and 
> > revisit the topic again when hopefully our lenses are clearer, less 
> > tainted. Why are we in such the rush to change the common names of birds 
> > that have been established for centuries. We all need to take a deep breath 
> > or two and wait to see what transpires.
> >  
> > Bob Righter
> > Denver, CO
> > 
> 
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Re: [cobirds] Re: AOU, Changing bird names

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Well said. And I would hope that some historic names like Lewis and Clark could be retained.John MaynardOn Nov 4, 2023, at 6:23 PM, mvjo...@gmail.com  wrote:And I have a question and hope I did not miss anything in this lengthy thread. Will AOS accept our suggestions for possible name changes? Seems like we in the field have an excellent grasp of possible features and habitats. Seems to me they should take a participatory and inclusive approach and invite suggestions and ideas. John RawinskiMonte Vista, COOn Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 3:28:25 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:Hi:I would hope the American Ornithological Union would pause before changing common names of birds that are named after historic ornithologists as that could be divisive . Currently we are living in a period of time where accusations of racism are rampant and consequently we are currently judging past historic figures based on our current definition of how racist they may have been. This is how history becomes distorted and historic individuals unfortunately become misjudged. Let’s wait a decade or so and revisit the topic again when hopefully our lenses are clearer, less tainted. Why are we in such the rush to change the common names of birds that have been established for centuries. We all need to take a deep breath or two and wait to see what transpires.Bob RighterDenver, CO



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[cobirds] Re: AOU, Changing bird names

[mvjo...@gmail.com]

And I have a question and hope I did not miss anything in this lengthy 
thread. Will AOS accept our suggestions for possible name changes? Seems 
like we in the field have an excellent grasp of possible features and 
habitats. Seems to me they should take a participatory and inclusive 
approach and invite suggestions and ideas. 

John Rawinski
Monte Vista, CO

On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 3:28:25 PM UTC-6 Robert Righter wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I would hope the American Ornithological Union would pause before changing 
> common names of birds that are named after historic ornithologists as that 
> could be divisive . Currently we are living in a period of time where 
> accusations of racism are rampant and consequently we are currently judging 
> past historic figures based on our current definition of how racist they 
> may have been. This is how history becomes distorted and historic 
> individuals unfortunately become misjudged. Let’s wait a decade or so and 
> revisit the topic again when hopefully our lenses are clearer, less 
> tainted. Why are we in such the rush to change the common names of birds 
> that have been established for centuries. We all need to take a deep breath 
> or two and wait to see what transpires.
>
>
> Bob Righter
>
> Denver, CO
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[cobirds] Re: birds along the US-287 corridor in eastern Boulder Co., Oct. 26–28

[Sandra Laursen]

I am glad to see the ferruginous hawk on your list, Ted. I saw one perched 
on a beam at the Kaiser Rock Creek building yesterday, head tucked in as it 
was harassed by a pair of ravens. I doubted my eyes a bit - it seemed early 
in the season - but had a good view of bright white underparts and belly, 
pale head, rusty-streaked flanks, brown streaky back.  It seemed like an 
odd spot to me, but it's a fine high perch and Lafayette's Rock Creek open 
space is just across the road, with plenty of prey for a morning nosh (and 
not far south of where you saw yours).  

Rather a crowd gathered to look, so that was fun. Moral, take your binocs 
to the docs!

Sandra Laursen

On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 11:45:06 PM UTC-6 Ted Floyd wrote:

> Hey, all.
>
> Some odds and ends from these past few days in eastern Boulder Co. All 
> reports from within a proverbial stone's throw of US-287, which runs 
> north–south near the county's eastern border.
>
> Thurs., Oct. 26. Greenlee Wildlife Preserve & Waneka Lake. A flyover *evening 
> grosbeak* and several flyover *red crossbills.* The latter are uncommon 
> in eastern Boulder Co., the former rare. I didn't get audio of either, but 
> I believe the grosbeak was a Type 4 and the crossbills Type 2s. Also that 
> evening, overflying Waneka Lake, a late *Baird sandpiper,* and possibly 
> more than just the one.
>
> Fri., Oct. 27. Hecla Pond. 6 *long-billed dowitchers,* a *Wilson snipe *and 
> an* American White Pelican,* 4 *hooded mergansers,* and the last singing 
> orthopteran of the year: an Allard ground cricket, *Allonemobius allardi*. 
> Way up there: 3 *sandhill cranes,* barely visible, but delectably 
> audible. Also up there: *cackling geese* by the hundreds, many of which 
> had put down by mid-afternoon on nearby Waneka Lake.
>
> Sat., Oct. 28. McIntosh Lake. I arrived there just as the morning snow 
> squall was intensifying, and a nice little fallout was in progress. Strange 
> for the date were no fewer than 9 *barn swallows.* Shorebirds, apparently 
> disoriented, were flying around the lakeshore—definitely 2 *greater 
> yellowlegs* and 20+ *killdeer,* along with a *Pluvialis* plover that 
> sounded better for American golden-plover than for black-bellied plover; 
> and a *spuh,* heard-only, that I thought might have been a sanderling. 
> FOSes included 3 *horned grebes* and 8 *red-breasted mergansers.* And a 
> dark-morph eastern fox squirrel, *Sciurus niger*, and an 
> *Audubon warbler.*
> Sat., Oct. 28. Prince Lake No. 2 and adjoining Schofield Open Space. 6 
> *long-billed 
> dowitchers,* a late *Say phoebe,* a flyover *American pipit,* and gulls. 
> Among the 61 *ring-billed gulls* were an adult *herring gull,* a bit 
> early, and a *Franklin gull,* rather tardy. Or, at least, I think it was 
> a Franklin gull. Genus *Leucophaeus* for sure. If anybody wants to sneak 
> a peek at my eBird checklist and make sure it's just a Frankie, be my guest.
>
> Sat., Oct. 28. "Raptor Alley" area around 95th & Lookout. 500+ *cackling 
> geese;* 5 *bald eagles* (all adults) and 2 FOS *ferruginous hawks.* And 
> at a little pond south of 95th & Lookout, 3 drake *hooded mergansers* and 
> an unexpected garamond of 11 *double-crested cormorants,* mostly 
> hatch-years.
>
> Sat., Oct. 28. Stearns Lake. The *bald eagles* at their nest. Also a trio 
> of 3 frosty-tailed *American tree sparrows,* FOSes. And in the parking 
> lot cattails, a chatterbox *marsh wren* and 2 
> *swamp sparrows.*
> Ted Floyd
> Lafayette, Boulder Co.
>
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[cobirds] Re: Bird Conservancy of the Rockies - Barr Banding Report, 10/16/23

[meredith]

Sorry, correction - this report is for today, October 17; we were off 
yesterday, October 16!

On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 5:28:31 PM UTC-6 meredith wrote:

> Today, we caught almost all of our birds in the first and last runs - 
> White-crowned Sparrows early and Dark-eyed Juncos late.  Just depended on 
> when the little flocks passed through.  In our "bigger bird" category, 
> today we added a striking Townsend's Solitaire (likely our only one for the 
> season).  Here's the breakdown of today's 17 new birds:
>
> Townsend's Solitaire 1
> Yellow-rumped Warbler, Audubon's 1 (very few this year; this one was with 
> the small junco flock at the end of the morning)
> Song Sparrow, 2 new, 1 banded last year
> White-crowned Sparrow, Gambel's 6
> Dark-eyed Junco, Slate-colored 1
> Dark-eyed Junco, Oregon 4
> Dark-eyed Junco, Pink-sided 1
>
> Our last week!  If you would like to visit, we have one-hour slots (up to 
> 15 visitors at a time) from 7:30-8:30 most weekday mornings (Tues-Fri, we 
> are closed on Mon) and 8, 9, and 10 a.m. one-hour time slots on the 
> weekends.  As long as the heat continues, you are more likely to see birds 
> if you come earlier in the morning.  Click here 
> 
>  to 
> make a reservation.
>
> Meredith McBurney
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> Bird Conservancy of the Rockies 
>  
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[cobirds] Re: Bird Conservancy of the Rockies - Barr Banding Report, 10/12/23 Eastern Phoebe, Adams County

[Susan Rosine]

Hello again,
Apparently not everyone could open my photos on CObirds. I'm posting the
link to my eBird list. It has several photos of the Eastern Phoebe.

https://ebird.org/checklist/S152027806

Susan Rosine
Brighton

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 5:32 PM meredith  wrote:

>
>
> Most mornings in October, we've been catching the few birds we have in one
> or two runs, as a flock of mostly White-crowned Sparrows moves through.
> Usually those runs are first thing in the morning, but today it was
> mid-morning, just in time for a group of high schoolers, and included all
> of the following:
>
> Yellow-rumped Warbler, Audubon's 1
> Chipping Sparrow 1
> Lincoln's Sparrow 1
> White-crowned Sparrow, Gambel's 3
> Dark-eyed Junco, Oregon 2
> Dark-eyed Junco, Pink-sided 3
>
> And then, in the follow-up run, Charlie Chase brought back a bird in a bag
> and said to me, "This is really weird, but I have no idea what this bird
> is."  (I'm thinking, if Charlie doesn't know, what are the chances any of
> the rest of us will..)  We then greatly enjoyed one of the occasional
> thrills of fall banding - catching a rarish species (actually, the first
> one caught in 35 years at Barr) in somewhat unusual hatch year plumage,
> that leads to a fascinating struggle to find the right ID!  We got to
> flycatcher right away, but were totally waylaid by the amount of and
> brightness of the yellow on the breast.  Susan Rosine will be posting
> shortly a few photos of this really gorgeous Eastern Phoebe.
>
> Meredith McBurney
> Bander, Barr Lake Station
> Bird Conservancy of the Rockies
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[cobirds] Re: Hummer, Arapahoe County

[Jared Del Rosso]

The Broad-tailed Hummingbird was around yesterday (10/13) visiting Desert 
Willow in my yard and a neighbor's salvia (Centennial, CO). I put out 
feeders this morning, in case it endures and a frost killed the flowers. It 
seems we avoided the worst of the frost, but I've not yet seen the 
hummingbird.

Jared Del Rosso
Centennial, CO

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 3:44:38 PM UTC-6 Jared Del Rosso wrote:

> An apparent Broad-tailed Hummingbird -- in roughly the same molt as the 
> one Deborah has reported -- is visiting agastache plants in my yard today. 
> A lot are still blooming, owing to relatively late frost this autumn. 
>
> - Jared Del Rosso
> Centennial, CO
>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 12:41:56 PM UTC-6 Deborah Carstensen 
> wrote:
>
>> I had the same hummer back again yesterday. Here’s a couple more 
>> pictures. Everyone agreed it was a broad tail. I thought I’d go ahead and 
>> post a couple more pictures. One of them is with his wings up and you can 
>> see some a dark band at edge of the flank at the bottom and I haven’t seen 
>> that before. 
>>
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[cobirds] Re: Hummer, Arapahoe County

[Jared Del Rosso]

An apparent Broad-tailed Hummingbird -- in roughly the same molt as the one 
Deborah has reported -- is visiting agastache plants in my yard today. A 
lot are still blooming, owing to relatively late frost this autumn. 

- Jared Del Rosso
Centennial, CO

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wrote:

> I had the same hummer back again yesterday. Here’s a couple more pictures. 
> Everyone agreed it was a broad tail. I thought I’d go ahead and post a 
> couple more pictures. One of them is with his wings up and you can see some 
> a dark band at edge of the flank at the bottom and I haven’t seen that 
> before. 
>
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[cobirds] Re: Sandhills are on the move

[Susanna Donato]

Enjoying these sightings. I’m in Beulah, Colorado, today, and late 
afternoon Sandhills were calling on both sides of the valley. Pretty neat 
to hear! 

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 6:08:38 PM UTC-6 Libby Edwards wrote:

> At 7:30 am today we had a flock of about 80-100 fly over our northwest 
> Fort Collins home in perfect “V” formation. A wonderful magical way to 
> greet the day!
> Libby Edwards 
> Larimer County

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[cobirds] Re: hawk id help please

['ronbco' via Colorado Birds]

thanks for all the opinions!
I got about 6 suggestions
I've settled on Rough-legged. Perhaps wishful id'ing because I've had 
trouble seeing these over the years. But my revisionist memory has claimed 
that the feathers on the legs were pretty low down and thick.
I suggest that more contributors for ids posting rather than direct 
emailing would help us all. Scrolling  the digest is easy if a reader is 
not interested in all the input.
Thanks
Ron Bolton
On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:41:43 PM UTC-6 ronbco wrote:

> Morey Wildlife Reserve in Loveland, this is a riparian area next to a golf 
> course with some rugged hogback terrain nearby.
>
> I just had 5 seconds of view of a very large hawk perched in a tree only 
> 15 feet from me. No time to grab a pic. What struck me was the robust body 
> size with large wings. Larger than a red-tailed. It took flight and I was 
> focused on what the tail would look like. I saw only the upper side. It had 
> a buff (not white) band at the base of the uniform, dark (not rufous) tail. 
> I can't seem to find a match of that tail color pattern. I think the body 
> was uniform rufous (no bib or breast band).
> With just a few seconds and a poor short-term memory that is all I got.
>
> Thanks for help.
> Ron Bolton
> Berthoud
>
>
>

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Re: [cobirds] Re: Sandhills over Boulder

[Hondochica z]

Had about 30 in the late afternoon flyin' high yesterday near Woodland Park
(8500 ft) - Teller County.  Grew up in WI and sure do miss that sound!!

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 2:19 PM spsmi...@gmail.com 
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> 100 + Just flew over my house in West Wash Park, south Denver.  They were
> in a beautiful V formation, but seemed to loose their leader and circled
> almost stationary for a good 2 or 3 minutes, then re-organized and headed
> south.
> Steve Smith
> Denver
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 12:44:42 PM UTC-6 bobfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Moments ago (12:35 p.m.), a flock of 80 to 100 sandhill cranes flew over
>> north Boulder (Boulder County), near Broadway and Iris, heading southeast.
>> That, and the dark-eyed juncos that showed up in the yard today, strongly
>> hint that change is coming!
>>
>> Bob Fiehweg
>> Boulder
>>
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[cobirds] Re: Sandhills over Boulder

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100 + Just flew over my house in West Wash Park, south Denver.  They were 
in a beautiful V formation, but seemed to loose their leader and circled 
almost stationary for a good 2 or 3 minutes, then re-organized and headed 
south.
Steve Smith
Denver

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 12:44:42 PM UTC-6 bobfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Moments ago (12:35 p.m.), a flock of 80 to 100 sandhill cranes flew over 
> north Boulder (Boulder County), near Broadway and Iris, heading southeast.  
> That, and the dark-eyed juncos that showed up in the yard today, strongly 
> hint that change is coming!
>
> Bob Fiehweg
> Boulder
>
>
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[cobirds] Re: hawk id help please

[David Matson]

Eagle?

David Matson
La Veta

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:41:43 PM UTC-6 ronbco wrote:

> Morey Wildlife Reserve in Loveland, this is a riparian area next to a golf 
> course with some rugged hogback terrain nearby.
>
> I just had 5 seconds of view of a very large hawk perched in a tree only 
> 15 feet from me. No time to grab a pic. What struck me was the robust body 
> size with large wings. Larger than a red-tailed. It took flight and I was 
> focused on what the tail would look like. I saw only the upper side. It had 
> a buff (not white) band at the base of the uniform, dark (not rufous) tail. 
> I can't seem to find a match of that tail color pattern. I think the body 
> was uniform rufous (no bib or breast band).
> With just a few seconds and a poor short-term memory that is all I got.
>
> Thanks for help.
> Ron Bolton
> Berthoud
>
>
>

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[cobirds] Re: Migration Forecast Thursday Oct 5: Heads up

[Bryan Guarente]

Hey COBirders,
Here is an update to the previous migration forecast.

There isn't much change from last forecast except that there is a longer
period of time when migrants could be coming into the Front Range.  Instead
of it being a quick blast of winds into the Front Range with a passing cold
front, the front will hang up a bit on the Raton Mesa (southern CO/northern
NM) and should give us a longer period of time with winds turning into the
Front Range (All day Thursday instead of 3-6 hours).  Here is the
"best-looking" map to show you what I mean:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/10/06/0400Z/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-101.79,44.36,1404/loc=-105.254,40.036
(10pm
Thursday night; Green circle is Longmont).

Bird concentrations should pick up with the frontal passage tomorrow
morning (early morning for Northern CO, later morning for southern CO).

Still, I am not seeing any specific areas where birds will concentrate due
to the wind pattern.  It looks like a broad brush of birds along the entire
Front Range.  The overall pattern and connection to the Arctic should give
higher probabilities of bird concentrations on the Eastern Plains of CO and
into KS, but if you aren't willing to make the drive, there should be birds
showing up all along the Front Range so don't feel like you will be missing
too much.

Please provide updates as you have them tomorrow and beyond.  All data is
good data.  And help keep me honest by letting me know if the forecast is
"right" or not for your area.

Good luck out there!
Bryan

Bryan Guarente
Meteorologist/Instructional Designer
UCAR/The COMET Program
Boulder, CO


On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 7:36 AM Bryan Guarente 
wrote:

> COBirders,
> I've been waiting for a good migration forecast to come together for CO as
> the migration season is passing us by, what feels like, pretty quickly.
> This Thursday has the potential to be a good day for Coloradoans.  Here is
> 6am on Thursday Oct 5 (green circle is Longmont, CO, but feel free to move
> around in time to see when the front is near you):
>
> https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/10/05/1200Z/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-108.66,43.60,1918/loc=-105.120,40.191
>
> The forecast calls for frontal passage at 850mb to be right around sun up
> for a bunch of Colorado.  This means any birds looking for a meal after
> traveling overnight behind that front could put down in your area at sun-up
> to get some chow.  The origins of this frontal airmass are Northern Canada,
> with our local winds maybe only originating from WY/MT depending on how the
> forecast pans out.
>
> There are no strong areas of convergence for birds to concentrate on, so
> expect that we will see an increase in migrants overall, but no particular
> location getting the best of it based on the weather (based on the food
> sources, that may be a different story).
>
> Best bets: Eastern plains lakes/reservoirs.
>
> Also, if you have any desire/need to chase the Kansas American Flamingo,
> you should probably do it before Thursday, because my educated guess is
> this bird will move on with this frontal passage.  And it will be moving
> southeast, not west, no matter how much we want it to.
>
> I'll keep you posted as this week moves along.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
> Bryan Guarente
> Meteorologist/Instructional Designer
> UCAR/The COMET Program
> Boulder, CO
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[cobirds] Re: Where are the birds?

['David Laliberte' via Colorado Birds]

I am wondering if it might be the northern forest fires, in Canada this 
past summer, that are affecting the numbers of migrating birds passing 
through Colorado during this fall migration?


On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 1:40:48 PM UTC-6 Mary Kay Waddington 
wrote:

> Is anyone else out there completely frightened by the lack of birds right 
> now?  I've always played a game with myself that when I go out for my 
> sunrise birding around the property, I don't allow myself to go back in 
> until I've seen at least 10 species -- and this includes the dead of winter 
> with snow on the ground! 
>
> Well, in the last few weeks I've been lucky to see 5 species each 
> morning!!  So I checked the number of September species I'd seen here up to 
> this date:  
>
> 2020, 63 species
> 2021, 47 species
> 2022, 53 species
> 2023, 44 species
>
> Definitely getting less, but not conclusive, so I did a little calculating 
> using my September bird lists for the last 4 years.  I only used the first 
> birding of each day -- usually around sunrise or a bit later, and only 
> calculated from Sept. 1st to 23rd.  Here are the dailly averages of number 
> of species and number of individuals:
>
> 2020,   16 sp.   63 ind.
> 2021,   14 sp.   40 ind.
> 2022,   11 sp.   34 ind.
> 2023, 8 sp.   16 ind.
>
> This is really frightening to me.  We've been told that in the last 50 
> years the US has lost 30% of its birds.  Have we reached the tipping point 
> and that number is changing exponentially?  In 10 years will there be any 
> birds left at all?
>
> I sincerely hope that all those people at Cornell that have all this data 
> at their fingertips are doing a whole lot of number crunching right now -- 
> much more scientific than my quick little add and divide, but I haven't 
> heard anything from anyone about the decline. And just look at the dismal 
> banding records for this Fall.
>
> Anyone out there seeing the same thing and having any ideas what's going 
> on?
>
> Mary Kay Waddington,  Arapahoe County
>

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[cobirds] Re: Colorado birder wins eBirder of the Month

[Joanie]

Thank you, truly a big surprise!

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 7:21:21 PM UTC-6 Mel Goff wrote:

> Congratulations to Joan Grant of Colorado Springs, El Paso County. Joan 
> was selected at the eBirder of the Month for August. She completed the 
> monthly eBird challenge and was picked in a random drawing to receive some 
> very nice Zeiss binoculars. 
>   
> Way to go, Joan. 
>   
> By the way, I have been trying to win this drawing every month for years! 
> No joy. 
>   
> Let's Go Birding!!! 
>   
> Mel Goff 
> Colorado Springs, El Paso county 
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Re: [cobirds] Re: Barr Lake vegetation removal

[Erin Youngberg]

The Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act states:

"The Act defines "take" as "pursue, shoot, shoot at, poison, wound, kill, 
capture, trap, collect, molest or disturb."  Regulations further define 
"disturb" as “to agitate or bother a bald or golden eagle to a degree that 
causes, or is likely to cause, based on the best scientific information 
available, 1) injury to an eagle, 2) a decrease in its productivity, by 
substantially interfering with normal breeding, feeding, or sheltering 
behavior, or 3) nest abandonment, by substantially interfering with normal 
breeding, feeding, or sheltering behavior" (50 CFR 22.6 

).

In addition to immediate impacts, this definition also covers effects that 
result from human-induced alterations initiated around a previously used 
nest site during a time when eagles are not present, if, upon the eagle's 
return, such alterations agitate or bother an eagle to a degree that 
interferes with or interrupts normal breeding, feeding, or sheltering 
habits, and causes injury, death or nest abandonment.

A violation of the Act can result in a fine of $100,000 ($200,000 for 
organizations), imprisonment for one year, or both, for a first offense. 
Penalties increase substantially for additional offenses, and a second 
violation of this Act is a felony."
Unless there was an assessment done, and FRICO was able to obtain an 
incidental take permit. Then they would be able to proceed as they please.

-Erin
On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 1:55:49 PM UTC-6 Susan Rosine wrote:

> I have heard that they did NOT have to do an assessment, but I'm not 100% 
> certain.
>
> Susan Rosine
> Brighton 
>
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 1:39 PM Preston Sowell  wrote:
>
>> Another question someone might ask is whether they have completed an 
>> environmental assessment or environmental impact assessment for the 
>> project. That may have been a requirement for a project that would disturb 
>> so much habitat.
>>
>> Preston
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 1:10 PM Norm Erthal  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As Nathan said, FRICO owns the land, dam, and water.The legislature has 
>>> absolutely no authority over them at all. There is one state agency with 
>>> authority but only in a limited way. That is the Office of the State 
>>> Engineer and their only authority is in regards to dam safety. This is 
>>> relevant regarding the increase of storage and could be what is causing the 
>>> placement of the riprap.
>>>
>>> The Endangererd Species Act would be the only other means of restricting 
>>> work. This likely only applies to a certain distance restriction from a 
>>> nest site.
>>>
>>> The only other possibility is in what rights Parks has regarding the 
>>> lease and I doubt if Frico gave them any authority regarding the storage of 
>>> water in the lake. The biggest problem I can see going forward is how the 
>>> increased storage level impacts the trees around the reservoir. The years 
>>> in which the reservoir stayed fairly full in the winter has caused the loss 
>>> of old cottonwoods and I can only see this becoming worse. There is little 
>>> to no regeneration of cottonwoods due to how young trees develop. I doubt 
>>> if the Endangered Species Act could be used to stop the storage increase 
>>> even if it results in the loss of trees that would effect nest sites. 
>>>
>>> Norm Erthal
>>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 1:49:06 PM UTC-6 Nathan Pieplow wrote:
>>>
 Hello all,

 Tammy VerCauteren at Bird Conservancy of the Rockies let us know this 
 morning that an unfortunate situation is unfolding at Barr Lake State 
 Park. 
 FRICO, the ditch company that built the reservoir and owns the water 
 rights, recently increased the water level in the reservoir to accommodate 
 more irrigation needs and water storage and other municipal needs. 
 However, 
 this has caused issues with trails getting washed out and the overall 
 integrity of the lake. To mitigate, they are removing a great deal of 
 shoreline vegetation and replacing it with rip rap. 

 They have already completely cleared the area from the NE corner of the 
 dam to the boat ramp, and are installing rip rap there now. The cleared 
 area is at least 30 feet wide. Yesterday they started work on a second 
 section, from the boat ramp to the Pioneer Boardwalk. Again they have 
 removed all vegetation including 100+ year old cottonwoods.   The current 
 plan is to continue this method all the way to the large bald eagle 
 viewing 
 gazebo on the south end of the park. This would completely clear out the 
 area where the Bird Conservancy Banding station is, not to mention almost 
 all the rest of the shoreline vegetation along the east side of the lake. 
 The plan is to complete this work in the next couple of weeks.

 Our understanding is that FRICO has 

[cobirds] Re: Barr Lake vegetation removal

[philp...@gmail.com]

Bald eagles were delisted in 2007, but they are still protected under the 
migratory bird treaty act and the bald and golden eagle protection act.  
Including inactive nests.

https://www.fws.gov/law/bald-and-golden-eagle-protection-act

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 1:49:06 PM UTC-6 Nathan Pieplow wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Tammy VerCauteren at Bird Conservancy of the Rockies let us know this 
> morning that an unfortunate situation is unfolding at Barr Lake State Park. 
> FRICO, the ditch company that built the reservoir and owns the water 
> rights, recently increased the water level in the reservoir to accommodate 
> more irrigation needs and water storage and other municipal needs. However, 
> this has caused issues with trails getting washed out and the overall 
> integrity of the lake. To mitigate, they are removing a great deal of 
> shoreline vegetation and replacing it with rip rap. 
>
> They have already completely cleared the area from the NE corner of the 
> dam to the boat ramp, and are installing rip rap there now. The cleared 
> area is at least 30 feet wide. Yesterday they started work on a second 
> section, from the boat ramp to the Pioneer Boardwalk. Again they have 
> removed all vegetation including 100+ year old cottonwoods.   The current 
> plan is to continue this method all the way to the large bald eagle viewing 
> gazebo on the south end of the park. This would completely clear out the 
> area where the Bird Conservancy Banding station is, not to mention almost 
> all the rest of the shoreline vegetation along the east side of the lake. 
> The plan is to complete this work in the next couple of weeks.
>
> Our understanding is that FRICO has extremely broad legal latitude to do 
> what it is doing, even though Barr Lake is a state park, because FRICO owns 
> the lake. The effects on habitat and wildlife are going to be severe, 
> especially at the banding station which has been in place for 35 years. 
> This is particularly galling because when the company filed a grant 
> application to increase the water level, they touted the area as a great 
> birding destination and argued that raising the water level would only 
> enhance it. Now the exact opposite is happening. 
>
> To change the outcome is probably going to require a strong and immediate 
> public outcry. You can contact FRICO at:
>
> Farmers Reservoir & Irrigation Company
> 80 South 27th Avenue 
> Brighton, CO 80601  
> P: (303) 659-7373   
> in...@farmersres.com
>
> You might also consider reaching out to your state and local government 
> representatives. If you are a member of a group that would like to get 
> involved, contact Tammy VerCauteren , 
> who is working to initiate a wide-ranging response.
>
> Nathan Pieplow
> Boulder
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[cobirds] Re: Limited access to recording of DFO’s recent Owls of Northern Colorado Program

[dgulb...@gmail.com]

What a delightful, valuable program!  Thank you Scott Rashid and thank you 
DFO for making the video available.
Seems a shame to remove it after Sept 27.

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 10:27:17 AM UTC-6 2mi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> *If you missed it:* You can view the recording of DFO’s September 18 
> program, Owls of Northern Colorado by Scott Rashid, for a limited time. 
> Visit the Past Programs webpage at https://dfobirds.org/Programs/Past.aspx
> .
>
> PLEASE NOTE: At the request of the presenter, DFO will remove the 
> recording from our website on September 27, 2023. 
> To review the description of this program, visit The Lark Bunting, page 9, 
> at 
> https://dfobirds.org/LB/2023/10_Oct_2023_LB.pdf?t=9/20/2023%2011:14:36%20AM
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Re: [cobirds] Re: Barr Lake vegetation removal

[T. Luke George]

Thanks for the heads up. I called and left a message.
Luke George

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 1:10 PM Norm Erthal  wrote:

>
> As Nathan said, FRICO owns the land, dam, and water.The legislature has
> absolutely no authority over them at all. There is one state agency with
> authority but only in a limited way. That is the Office of the State
> Engineer and their only authority is in regards to dam safety. This is
> relevant regarding the increase of storage and could be what is causing the
> placement of the riprap.
>
> The Endangererd Species Act would be the only other means of restricting
> work. This likely only applies to a certain distance restriction from a
> nest site.
>
> The only other possibility is in what rights Parks has regarding the lease
> and I doubt if Frico gave them any authority regarding the storage of water
> in the lake. The biggest problem I can see going forward is how the
> increased storage level impacts the trees around the reservoir. The years
> in which the reservoir stayed fairly full in the winter has caused the loss
> of old cottonwoods and I can only see this becoming worse. There is little
> to no regeneration of cottonwoods due to how young trees develop. I doubt
> if the Endangered Species Act could be used to stop the storage increase
> even if it results in the loss of trees that would effect nest sites.
>
> Norm Erthal
> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 1:49:06 PM UTC-6 Nathan Pieplow wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Tammy VerCauteren at Bird Conservancy of the Rockies let us know this
>> morning that an unfortunate situation is unfolding at Barr Lake State Park.
>> FRICO, the ditch company that built the reservoir and owns the water
>> rights, recently increased the water level in the reservoir to accommodate
>> more irrigation needs and water storage and other municipal needs. However,
>> this has caused issues with trails getting washed out and the overall
>> integrity of the lake. To mitigate, they are removing a great deal of
>> shoreline vegetation and replacing it with rip rap.
>>
>> They have already completely cleared the area from the NE corner of the
>> dam to the boat ramp, and are installing rip rap there now. The cleared
>> area is at least 30 feet wide. Yesterday they started work on a second
>> section, from the boat ramp to the Pioneer Boardwalk. Again they have
>> removed all vegetation including 100+ year old cottonwoods.   The current
>> plan is to continue this method all the way to the large bald eagle viewing
>> gazebo on the south end of the park. This would completely clear out the
>> area where the Bird Conservancy Banding station is, not to mention almost
>> all the rest of the shoreline vegetation along the east side of the lake.
>> The plan is to complete this work in the next couple of weeks.
>>
>> Our understanding is that FRICO has extremely broad legal latitude to do
>> what it is doing, even though Barr Lake is a state park, because FRICO owns
>> the lake. The effects on habitat and wildlife are going to be severe,
>> especially at the banding station which has been in place for 35 years.
>> This is particularly galling because when the company filed a grant
>> application to increase the water level, they touted the area as a great
>> birding destination and argued that raising the water level would only
>> enhance it. Now the exact opposite is happening.
>>
>> To change the outcome is probably going to require a strong and immediate
>> public outcry. You can contact FRICO at:
>>
>> Farmers Reservoir & Irrigation Company
>> 80 South 27th Avenue
>> 
>> Brighton, CO 80601
>> 
>>
>> P: (303) 659-7373
>> in...@farmersres.com
>>
>> You might also consider reaching out to your state and local government
>> representatives. If you are a member of a group that would like to get
>> involved, contact Tammy VerCauteren ,
>> who is working to initiate a wide-ranging response.
>>
>> Nathan Pieplow
>> Boulder
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [cobirds] Re: Barr Lake vegetation removal

[Susan Rosine]

I have heard that they did NOT have to do an assessment, but I'm not 100%
certain.

Susan Rosine
Brighton

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 1:39 PM Preston Sowell 
wrote:

> Another question someone might ask is whether they have completed an
> environmental assessment or environmental impact assessment for the
> project. That may have been a requirement for a project that would disturb
> so much habitat.
>
> Preston
>
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 1:10 PM Norm Erthal 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> As Nathan said, FRICO owns the land, dam, and water.The legislature has
>> absolutely no authority over them at all. There is one state agency with
>> authority but only in a limited way. That is the Office of the State
>> Engineer and their only authority is in regards to dam safety. This is
>> relevant regarding the increase of storage and could be what is causing the
>> placement of the riprap.
>>
>> The Endangererd Species Act would be the only other means of restricting
>> work. This likely only applies to a certain distance restriction from a
>> nest site.
>>
>> The only other possibility is in what rights Parks has regarding the
>> lease and I doubt if Frico gave them any authority regarding the storage of
>> water in the lake. The biggest problem I can see going forward is how the
>> increased storage level impacts the trees around the reservoir. The years
>> in which the reservoir stayed fairly full in the winter has caused the loss
>> of old cottonwoods and I can only see this becoming worse. There is little
>> to no regeneration of cottonwoods due to how young trees develop. I doubt
>> if the Endangered Species Act could be used to stop the storage increase
>> even if it results in the loss of trees that would effect nest sites.
>>
>> Norm Erthal
>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 1:49:06 PM UTC-6 Nathan Pieplow wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Tammy VerCauteren at Bird Conservancy of the Rockies let us know this
>>> morning that an unfortunate situation is unfolding at Barr Lake State Park.
>>> FRICO, the ditch company that built the reservoir and owns the water
>>> rights, recently increased the water level in the reservoir to accommodate
>>> more irrigation needs and water storage and other municipal needs. However,
>>> this has caused issues with trails getting washed out and the overall
>>> integrity of the lake. To mitigate, they are removing a great deal of
>>> shoreline vegetation and replacing it with rip rap.
>>>
>>> They have already completely cleared the area from the NE corner of the
>>> dam to the boat ramp, and are installing rip rap there now. The cleared
>>> area is at least 30 feet wide. Yesterday they started work on a second
>>> section, from the boat ramp to the Pioneer Boardwalk. Again they have
>>> removed all vegetation including 100+ year old cottonwoods.   The current
>>> plan is to continue this method all the way to the large bald eagle viewing
>>> gazebo on the south end of the park. This would completely clear out the
>>> area where the Bird Conservancy Banding station is, not to mention almost
>>> all the rest of the shoreline vegetation along the east side of the lake.
>>> The plan is to complete this work in the next couple of weeks.
>>>
>>> Our understanding is that FRICO has extremely broad legal latitude to do
>>> what it is doing, even though Barr Lake is a state park, because FRICO owns
>>> the lake. The effects on habitat and wildlife are going to be severe,
>>> especially at the banding station which has been in place for 35 years.
>>> This is particularly galling because when the company filed a grant
>>> application to increase the water level, they touted the area as a great
>>> birding destination and argued that raising the water level would only
>>> enhance it. Now the exact opposite is happening.
>>>
>>> To change the outcome is probably going to require a strong and
>>> immediate public outcry. You can contact FRICO at:
>>>
>>> Farmers Reservoir & Irrigation Company
>>> 80 South 27th Avenue
>>> Brighton, CO 80601
>>> P: (303) 659-7373
>>> in...@farmersres.com
>>>
>>> You might also consider reaching out to your state and local government
>>> representatives. If you are a member of a group that would like to get
>>> involved, contact Tammy VerCauteren ,
>>> who is working to initiate a wide-ranging response.
>>>
>>> Nathan Pieplow
>>> Boulder
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [cobirds] Re: Barr Lake vegetation removal

[Preston Sowell]

Another question someone might ask is whether they have completed an
environmental assessment or environmental impact assessment for the
project. That may have been a requirement for a project that would disturb
so much habitat.

Preston

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 1:10 PM Norm Erthal  wrote:

>
> As Nathan said, FRICO owns the land, dam, and water.The legislature has
> absolutely no authority over them at all. There is one state agency with
> authority but only in a limited way. That is the Office of the State
> Engineer and their only authority is in regards to dam safety. This is
> relevant regarding the increase of storage and could be what is causing the
> placement of the riprap.
>
> The Endangererd Species Act would be the only other means of restricting
> work. This likely only applies to a certain distance restriction from a
> nest site.
>
> The only other possibility is in what rights Parks has regarding the lease
> and I doubt if Frico gave them any authority regarding the storage of water
> in the lake. The biggest problem I can see going forward is how the
> increased storage level impacts the trees around the reservoir. The years
> in which the reservoir stayed fairly full in the winter has caused the loss
> of old cottonwoods and I can only see this becoming worse. There is little
> to no regeneration of cottonwoods due to how young trees develop. I doubt
> if the Endangered Species Act could be used to stop the storage increase
> even if it results in the loss of trees that would effect nest sites.
>
> Norm Erthal
> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 1:49:06 PM UTC-6 Nathan Pieplow wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Tammy VerCauteren at Bird Conservancy of the Rockies let us know this
>> morning that an unfortunate situation is unfolding at Barr Lake State Park.
>> FRICO, the ditch company that built the reservoir and owns the water
>> rights, recently increased the water level in the reservoir to accommodate
>> more irrigation needs and water storage and other municipal needs. However,
>> this has caused issues with trails getting washed out and the overall
>> integrity of the lake. To mitigate, they are removing a great deal of
>> shoreline vegetation and replacing it with rip rap.
>>
>> They have already completely cleared the area from the NE corner of the
>> dam to the boat ramp, and are installing rip rap there now. The cleared
>> area is at least 30 feet wide. Yesterday they started work on a second
>> section, from the boat ramp to the Pioneer Boardwalk. Again they have
>> removed all vegetation including 100+ year old cottonwoods.   The current
>> plan is to continue this method all the way to the large bald eagle viewing
>> gazebo on the south end of the park. This would completely clear out the
>> area where the Bird Conservancy Banding station is, not to mention almost
>> all the rest of the shoreline vegetation along the east side of the lake.
>> The plan is to complete this work in the next couple of weeks.
>>
>> Our understanding is that FRICO has extremely broad legal latitude to do
>> what it is doing, even though Barr Lake is a state park, because FRICO owns
>> the lake. The effects on habitat and wildlife are going to be severe,
>> especially at the banding station which has been in place for 35 years.
>> This is particularly galling because when the company filed a grant
>> application to increase the water level, they touted the area as a great
>> birding destination and argued that raising the water level would only
>> enhance it. Now the exact opposite is happening.
>>
>> To change the outcome is probably going to require a strong and immediate
>> public outcry. You can contact FRICO at:
>>
>> Farmers Reservoir & Irrigation Company
>> 80 South 27th Avenue
>> Brighton, CO 80601
>> P: (303) 659-7373
>> in...@farmersres.com
>>
>> You might also consider reaching out to your state and local government
>> representatives. If you are a member of a group that would like to get
>> involved, contact Tammy VerCauteren ,
>> who is working to initiate a wide-ranging response.
>>
>> Nathan Pieplow
>> Boulder
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[cobirds] Re: Barr Lake vegetation removal

[Norm Erthal]

As Nathan said, FRICO owns the land, dam, and water.The legislature has 
absolutely no authority over them at all. There is one state agency with 
authority but only in a limited way. That is the Office of the State 
Engineer and their only authority is in regards to dam safety. This is 
relevant regarding the increase of storage and could be what is causing the 
placement of the riprap.

The Endangererd Species Act would be the only other means of restricting 
work. This likely only applies to a certain distance restriction from a 
nest site.

The only other possibility is in what rights Parks has regarding the lease 
and I doubt if Frico gave them any authority regarding the storage of water 
in the lake. The biggest problem I can see going forward is how the 
increased storage level impacts the trees around the reservoir. The years 
in which the reservoir stayed fairly full in the winter has caused the loss 
of old cottonwoods and I can only see this becoming worse. There is little 
to no regeneration of cottonwoods due to how young trees develop. I doubt 
if the Endangered Species Act could be used to stop the storage increase 
even if it results in the loss of trees that would effect nest sites. 

Norm Erthal
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 1:49:06 PM UTC-6 Nathan Pieplow wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Tammy VerCauteren at Bird Conservancy of the Rockies let us know this 
> morning that an unfortunate situation is unfolding at Barr Lake State Park. 
> FRICO, the ditch company that built the reservoir and owns the water 
> rights, recently increased the water level in the reservoir to accommodate 
> more irrigation needs and water storage and other municipal needs. However, 
> this has caused issues with trails getting washed out and the overall 
> integrity of the lake. To mitigate, they are removing a great deal of 
> shoreline vegetation and replacing it with rip rap. 
>
> They have already completely cleared the area from the NE corner of the 
> dam to the boat ramp, and are installing rip rap there now. The cleared 
> area is at least 30 feet wide. Yesterday they started work on a second 
> section, from the boat ramp to the Pioneer Boardwalk. Again they have 
> removed all vegetation including 100+ year old cottonwoods.   The current 
> plan is to continue this method all the way to the large bald eagle viewing 
> gazebo on the south end of the park. This would completely clear out the 
> area where the Bird Conservancy Banding station is, not to mention almost 
> all the rest of the shoreline vegetation along the east side of the lake. 
> The plan is to complete this work in the next couple of weeks.
>
> Our understanding is that FRICO has extremely broad legal latitude to do 
> what it is doing, even though Barr Lake is a state park, because FRICO owns 
> the lake. The effects on habitat and wildlife are going to be severe, 
> especially at the banding station which has been in place for 35 years. 
> This is particularly galling because when the company filed a grant 
> application to increase the water level, they touted the area as a great 
> birding destination and argued that raising the water level would only 
> enhance it. Now the exact opposite is happening. 
>
> To change the outcome is probably going to require a strong and immediate 
> public outcry. You can contact FRICO at:
>
> Farmers Reservoir & Irrigation Company
> 80 South 27th Avenue 
> Brighton, CO 80601  
> P: (303) 659-7373   
> in...@farmersres.com
>
> You might also consider reaching out to your state and local government 
> representatives. If you are a member of a group that would like to get 
> involved, contact Tammy VerCauteren , 
> who is working to initiate a wide-ranging response.
>
> Nathan Pieplow
> Boulder
>
>
>
>
>
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[cobirds] Re: osprey

[M T]

Migration departure times are loaded with generalities and variation. Over 
the last decade single birds of HY and AHY age classes of Osprey have been 
seen along the Front Range well into October. eBird is a great search tool 
that can show just how widespread Osprey currently are.

Michael Tincher
Loveland, CO

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:08:41 AM UTC-6 Brenda Beatty wrote:

> does anyone have any ideas on why an osprey would be hanging out at 
> his/her nest this time of year?
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[cobirds] Re: Swainson’s Hawk & Turkey Vultures

[M T]

The Swainson's hawk migration is in full gear and far from over. As of last 
Wednesday the family groups in the area south of Greeley were still doing 
SWHA things without any major sign of a big push. They are moving now, but 
in no big hurry. A large kettle was sighted over E. Greeley Tuesday(9/12) 
afternoon. Over the last decade the Front Range SWHA's don't seem to begin 
their big push until the 10th or so, of September. Postings on eBird 
indicate that there are still plenty of SWHA's up north that will be 
heading down in short fashion. Warm late summers from Canada on down appear 
to be a key component of this. No cold, no sense of urgency to move.

Was it a kid from this year? Unlikely, since they are so in tuned with the 
adults to make migration.

Michael Tincher
Loveland

On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 6:27:13 PM UTC-6 Paula Hansley wrote:

> CObirders:
>
> Would a Swainson’s Hawk migrate with Turkey Vultures?  Just saw a group 
> (kettle?) of vultures slowly migrating south over Louisville.  Seemingly 
> soaring with the vultures was one Swainson’s Hawk (missing a tail feather).
>
> Could this be a young bird that fledged late and then missed the main 
> Swainson’s migration?  They gather in eastern Colorado in late August 
> before migrating south in large flocks to Argentina.  Not sure iif the 
> Swainson’s have left eastern Colorado yet.
>
> Thanks- -
>
> Paula Hansley
> Louisville
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[cobirds] Re: DFO Sept Program: Magnificent Eleven Owls of Northern Colorado, by Scott Rashid

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Registration is now open: Register for the Magnificent Eleven Owls of 
Northern Colorado, by Scott Rashid.
Monday, Sept. 18, 7 p.m. MDT Webinar via Zoom. Visit the DFO Programs page 
to sign up -- Visit https://dfobirds.org/Programs.aspx. 

(Please note: This program is on the third Monday evening because the usual 
fourth-Monday date in September conflicts with the Yom Kippur holiday 
observance.)

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:07:36 AM UTC-6 2mi...@gmail.com wrote:


Join us to watch the Magnificent Eleven Owls of Northern Colorado, by Scott 
Rashid. 
Monday, Sept. 18, 7 p.m. MDT 
Webinar via Zoom (We will post registration information here as soon as 
available, or you can visit https://dfobirds.org and check out Upcoming 
Programs)

Whooo knew? . . . that 11 of the 19 species of owl found in the US occur in 
northern Colorado? Who else but Scott Rashid, that’s hooo. The veteran 
Colorado owl researcher, bander and rehabilitator will tell us all about 
them at the September DFO monthly program. 

Those Magnificent Eleven owl species: Barn, Boreal, Burrowing, Eastern 
Screech, Flammulated, Great Horned, Long-eared, Northern Saw-whet, Northern 
Pygmy, Short-eared, and Snowy. Rashid may know them better than anyone in 
the state, having worked with owls here for more than 30 years. Besides his 
field research, Rashid has been illustrating and writing about birds for 
nearly 35 years. 

 

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[cobirds] Re: Sandhill cranes?

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Absolutely...they are here and arriving daily. Try the Stanley Road. 

John Rawinski
Monte Vista, CO

On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 5:49:43 PM UTC-6 Jordan Gerue wrote:

> Nothing on eBird yet for this year, but there are records of mid-September 
> cranes in the valley from previous years. Hopefully you'll be the first to 
> see one there this year - good luck!
>
> -Jordan G (Golden, CO)
>
> On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:12:15 AM UTC-6 mkeilly wrote:
>
>> I will be passing through the San Luis Valley tomorrow and have in the 
>> past gotten to see sandhill cranes as they migrate through. This is earlier 
>> than I've gone but I'm wondering if they have been observed yet this fall.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Michael Keilly, Erie, Colorado
>>
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[cobirds] Re: Sandhill cranes?

[Jordan Gerue]

Nothing on eBird yet for this year, but there are records of mid-September 
cranes in the valley from previous years. Hopefully you'll be the first to 
see one there this year - good luck!

-Jordan G (Golden, CO)

On Thursday, September 7, 2023 at 10:12:15 AM UTC-6 mkeilly wrote:

> I will be passing through the San Luis Valley tomorrow and have in the 
> past gotten to see sandhill cranes as they migrate through. This is earlier 
> than I've gone but I'm wondering if they have been observed yet this fall.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Keilly, Erie, Colorado
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[cobirds] Re: RFI Prewitt

[Nate Bond]

Hey Norm,

I birded Prewitt (Washington County) this morning with Eric Dinkle. We 
ended up spending most of the morning around the inlet.  It was slightly 
muddy but pretty walkable. LOTS of fall warblers to pick through: including 
Chestnut sided and many Townsends. By the time we started to look for 
shorebirds it was warm so there could have been some out earlier. General 
conditions were high water and not a lot of mud. A lot of the shoreline was 
taken up by humans by the time we were ready to work the shoreline so we 
aborted.

Area below damn was significantly quieter, but we did have a Black and 
White Warbler which was fun.

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 11:34:22 AM UTC-6 Norm Lewis wrote:

> Good morning! Could someone who has been there recently give an update on 
> conditions at Prewitt. I was out there in August, and the reservoir was 
> full with no exposed mudflats. Not the best situation for shorebirds.
> Has the lake been drawn down, or is it still full?
> Thanks in advance for any info.
>
> Norm Lewis 
> Lakewood 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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[cobirds] Re: Fall Count - Sept. 8-10 (Revision)

['Hugh Kingery' via Colorado Birds]

Another revision - correcting Rick Crewell's email.

 Eight leaders will conduct Fall Counts from Friday, Sept. 8 to Sunday Sept. 
10. 
Contact Leaders to participate :
Sept. 87 a.m. Barr Lake Periphery (mostly driving):    Gregg Goodrich  
303 655 9135
|  Cherry Creek State Park:    Cynthia Madsen 

| 
| 
| cmadse...@gmail.com |

 |


Sept. 9Audubon Nature Center    Bill Schreitz
flannelm...@gmail.com
Bear Creek State Park - 8 am
    Rick Creswell
| rickcresw...@yahoo.com |


Chatfield State Park    Joey Kellner    vir...@comcast.net

Sep. 10Castlewood Canyon SP - 6:30  am
    Dave Hill    303 870 4316
Barr Lake SP    Chris Gilbert    

| chrisg...@gmail.com
Rocky Mtn. Arsenal NWR    Charlie Chase
| charlesacha...@gmail.com

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[cobirds] Re: Jaeger at Boyd Lake -Larimer

[Nicholas Komar]

I’m very pleased that there are now 40 reports of the juvenile Long-tailed 
Jaeger from Boyd Lake in eBird. Reviewing images I see now that this bird is 
not a dark morph but rather a darker intermediate morph based on the extensive 
white spotting and barring on the underwing and undertail coverts. For example 
see images in this checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S148409085. 

And a plug for submitting rare bird reports. Once I logged in to the Colorado 
Bird Records Committee website (accessed via Cobirds.org), I selected “Submit 
eBird Checklist”. The process took about 5 minutes.

By the way the last Long-tailed Jaeger reported to eBird from Boyd Lake was an 
adult in mid-September 2014, found by Andy Bankert. 

Nick Komar
Fort Collins

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> On Aug 29, 2023, at 6:36 AM, Nicholas Komar  wrote:
> 
> A juvenile Long-tailed Jaeger just flew over Boyd Lake swim beach.  Seems to 
> be hanging around. 
> 
> Nick Komar
> Paul Gordy

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[cobirds] Re: Fall Count - Sept. 8-10 (Revision)

['Hugh Kingery' via Colorado Birds]

Eight leaders will conduct Fall Counts from Friday, Sept. 8 to Sunday Sept. 10. 
Contact Leaders to participate :
Sept. 87 a.m. Barr Lake Periphery (mostly driving):    Gregg Goodrich  
303 655 9135
|  Cherry Creek State Park:    Cynthia Madsen 

| 
| 
| cmadse...@gmail.com |

 |


Sept. 9Audubon Nature Center    Bill Schreitz
flannelm...@gmail.com
Bear Creek State Park - 8 am
    Rick Creswell
| rckcresw...@yahoo.com |


Chatfield State Park    Joey Kellner    vir...@comcast.net

Sep. 10Castlewood Canyon SP - 6:30  am
    Dave Hill    303 870 4316
Barr Lake SP    Chris Gilbert    

| chrisg...@gmail.com
Rocky Mtn. Arsenal NWR    Charlie Chase
| charlesacha...@gmail.com

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[cobirds] Re: [nature-net] KGNU Science Show - Hummingbird Banding

[Pam Piombino]

Dear Scott,

Thank you for bringing this marvelous radio episode to the attention of the
nature-net and co-birds communities.  It is indeed an outstanding example
of journalism for all involved.  Kudos to Shelly Schlender for her expert
moderation and brava/bravo to Ruth Carol Cushman, Steve Boricious and Scott
Severs for sharing their knowledge and passion about these flying gems.

Cheers, Pam Piombino

On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 9:04 PM Scott E. Severs 
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> A truly extraordinary episode of the KGNU Science Show, hummingbirds
> banding in the foothills of Boulder County.
>
> A 27 minute sound escape beautifully produced and edited by Shelley
> Schlender.
>
> Listen here:
>
> https://howonearthradio.org/archives/9182
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> Enjoy,
>
> Scott
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[cobirds] Re: Mystery bird, Louisville

[Paula Hansley]

Re:  Bushtit (Melanotis subspecies)

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about the bird picture I
posted earlier today-- especially Ted Floyd, who confirmed that it is
indeed a Melanotis ssp.

Paula Hansley
Louisville


On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 1:00 PM Paula Hansley  wrote:

> CObirders--
> I was taking a picture of what I thought was a Black-capped Chickadee in
> Coyote Run Open Space in Louisville yesterday, but this bird does not look
> like a chickadee to me!
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Paula Hansley
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[cobirds] Re: Mystery bird, Louisville

[Colin Woolley]

Its a bushtit and possibly a *melanotis/dimorphicus *subspecies, formerly 
considered its own species, Black-eared Bushtit. They are found further 
south in NM/TX and Mexico. Males of this group show the full black mask, 
although some black mask can sometimes show up in juv males of our resident 
subspecies *plumbeous*. I'm not sure if that's a possibility with this one 
as it seems fully black in the auricular. There seem to be more of these 
'black-eared' ones showing up, including apparent females, and it may not 
be indicative of subspecies at all. Taxonomy Any photos showing the eye?

Colin Woolley
Wheat Ridge
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> CObirders--
> I was taking a picture of what I thought was a Black-capped Chickadee in 
> Coyote Run Open Space in Louisville yesterday, but this bird does not look 
> like a chickadee to me!
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Paula Hansley
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