Re: WTF is happening?
Why do you think the problem is with “respondsToSelector:”? The error says you’re accessing past the end of a string. On Dec 13, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Maxthon Chan m...@maxchan.info wrote: This got me scratching my head, hard. Why would class_respondsToSelector() crash? (BTW this is used in a class search loop so I cannot use [NSObject respondsToSelector:] just yet.) /Users/technix/Developer/Subtitler Pro/Frameworks/SubtitleKit/SubtitleKitTests/SKSubripParseTest.m:33: error: -[SKSubripParseTest testFileFormatSearch] : failed: caught NSRangeException, *** -[__NSCFString substringFromIndex:]: Index 18 out of bounds; string length 17 ( 0 CoreFoundation 0x7fff926c __exceptionPreprocess + 172 1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x7fff8725976e objc_exception_throw + 43 2 CoreFoundation 0x7fff9266651d +[NSException raise:format:] + 205 3 Foundation 0x7fff8f127b2e -[NSString substringFromIndex:] + 118 4 AppKit 0x7fff8a4e1c49 +[_NSObjectAnimator _targetClass] + 92 5 AppKit 0x7fff8a4e1b79 +[_NSObjectAnimator resolveInstanceMethod:] + 34 6 libobjc.A.dylib 0x7fff8725c954 _ZL28_class_resolveInstanceMethodP10objc_classP13objc_selectorP11objc_object + 80 7 libobjc.A.dylib 0x7fff87262799 lookUpImpOrForward + 356 8 libobjc.A.dylib 0x7fff87262617 lookUpImpOrNil + 20 9 libobjc.A.dylib 0x7fff872545ff class_respondsToSelector + 37 10 SubtitleKit 0x0001000d02c8 +[SKFormat formatEngineForExtension:] + 184 11 SubtitleKitTests0x00010008551e -[SKSubripParseTest testFileFormatSearch] + 142 12 CoreFoundation 0x7fff9253f3cc __invoking___ + 140 13 CoreFoundation 0x7fff9253f222 -[NSInvocation invoke] + 290 14 XCTest 0x000100097919 -[XCTestCase invokeTest] + 253 15 XCTest 0x000100097b1a -[XCTestCase performTest:] + 150 16 XCTest 0x0001000a0700 -[XCTest run] + 257 17 XCTest 0x00010009682b -[XCTestSuite performTest:] + 379 18 XCTest 0x0001000a0700 -[XCTest run] + 257 19 XCTest 0x00010009682b -[XCTestSuite performTest:] + 379 20 XCTest 0x0001000a0700 -[XCTest run] + 257 21 XCTest 0x00010009682b -[XCTestSuite performTest:] + 379 22 XCTest 0x0001000a0700 -[XCTest run] + 257 23 XCTest 0x00010009383c __25-[XCTestDriver _runSuite]_block_invoke + 56 24 XCTest 0x00010009f36d -[XCTestObservationCenter _observeTestExecutionForBlock:] + 162 25 XCTest 0x000100093770 -[XCTestDriver _runSuite] + 269 26 XCTest 0x000100094359 -[XCTestDriver _checkForTestManager] + 678 27 XCTest 0x0001000a35b0 +[XCTestProbe runTests:] + 182 28 xctest 0x00011256 xctest + 4694 29 xctest 0x000115d6 xctest + 5590 30 xctest 0x00010ed3 xctest + 3795 31 libdyld.dylib 0x7fff90e315c9 start + 1 ) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/phillip.mills1%40acm.org This email sent to phillip.mil...@acm.org ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Prevent display of PDF controls in a WebView
In an OSX application, I use a WebView to display a variety of file types. When the type is PDF, something within Cocoa (PDFKit?) intercepts mouse movement in the lower portion of the screen and responds by displaying a translucent gray view with clickable areas that give options for the user to zoom in and out, open the file in Preview, or save it as a download. I see this on 10.8 but testers have reported it back to 10.6.8. (Part of my problem may be that I don't know what to call this element: contextual floating toolbar? ...hud panel? ...?) Anyway, I need to prevent it from appearing as it both interferes with how the program is supposed to function visually and gives options (zoom) that will cause incorrect program behavior if used. How is this thing activated and, much more important, how do I stop it? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Prevent display of PDF controls in a WebView
On 2012-09-02, at 4:16 PM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote: Have you investigated supplying your own PDF view. Webkit doesn't really offer anything about its built in PDF view beyond its existence. I thought about that. I've created my own view/representation pairs for two other (simple) data types but PDF sounded like something complex enough that letting the existing mechanism take care of it would be safer. Maybe not. Thanks for the suggestion. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Sandboxing. WTF?
On 2012-05-29, at 11:30 PM, Quincey Morris wrote: A number of commentators have jumped into the thread to declare, in effect, that the sandboxing could *never* work. Such a point of view seems inexplicably to ignore the fact that there is a platform out there already (iOS) for which sandboxing is demonstrably viable -- technically, economically, and functionally. iOS devices are successful but it's as easy to claim that it's in spite of an OS that is a functional failure as it is to give the OS any credit. Since people don't get to choose between increased flexibility and security, there's no way to know. The convoluted methods required when attempting to use two different apps when working with one document are strong evidence against functional viability from a *computing* perspective. Those devices make great media consumption tools but that's an awfully low setting of the bar if it's applied to real computers. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Sandboxing. WTF?
On 2012-05-29, at 10:34 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote: It solves the problem of applications being unable to express their intended boundaries to the operating system. I'm honestly curious When did that become a real-world problem for Mac users? (And if it's anticipatory, what's different now that requires it?) I use, and program for, iOS. Mostly, I enjoy my iPad but there are days when sandboxing makes it seem more like a digital picture frame than a computing device. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Trying to customize UITableViewCell with IB but having odd exception
On 2012-01-28, at 1:55 AM, James West wrote: I get -[UIAccessibiltyBundle setProduct:] unrecognized selector sent to instance It looks as if the cell has been deallocated and its address reused to hold a different kind of object. (UIAccessibiltyBundle) If it's not obvious how this is happening, I'd try using Instruments to check for zombies. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: add crlf to UITextView
On 2011-05-25, at 2:10 PM, koko wrote: How does one get crlf into a UITextView? I've put things on a new line by doing essentially: m_notes.text = [m_notes.text stringByAppendingFormat:@\n\n%@, [m_backing objectAtIndex:index]]; At which point, the object would be @Text to add. I'm not sure about '\r', not whether the do anything useful nor whether they work the same in a format string. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
iOS: Data sharing/upgrade
I have an application that uses iTunes file sharing for documents (PDF, rtf, Pages...) and Core Data with sqlite for storing metadata about those documents. I'm thinking of creating a simpler version with the same essential capability but without some of the advanced features, partly to promote the main program and partly because some people don't need the full version. The light edition would use the same document types and a subset of the Core Data structure. My concern is that I'd like to support the scenario where someone starts with the simple version and then moves to the more complex one. Logically, the data should be perfectly transferable but to actually share or copy files seems painful. What I don't know is, is there any coding possible that helps this happen? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
UIWebView: Unexpected NSURLErrorCancelled
I'm trying to debug something in an iPad app with very limited information and hoping that the symptoms will ring a bell with someone. This is based on a report from one user and is nothing I've been able to reproduce. I have a UIViewController subclass that shows a UIWebView and is also its delegate. At a certain point, this controller is presented full-screen modal, does some setup, and invokes loadRequest: for its UIWebView. The URL always points to a local file. There's nowhere in the code that allows the user to stop the load or to load anything else while the first load is taking place. The program, however, is getting a callback at webView:didFailLoadWithError: with the -999 error code. I'm told that it doesn't always happen and there seems to be no clear pattern (so far). The user suspects that the behaviour may have started with her most recent upgrade of iOS. I haven't found any documentation that describes a situation that returns this error and which could match these conditions. Or, if I have, I didn't understand it. :-) Suggestions? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: UIWebView: Unexpected NSURLErrorCancelled
On 2011-04-26, at 8:52 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: You can get this error when the page automatically redirects via Javascript. I would recommend just ignoring the error, treating it as a non-error condition. I'm coming around to the idea that your solution is the right one. However, in this case, I'm still baffled by the cause. The local files involved are a mix of .pages, .pdf, and possibly .rtf, so redirect doesn't seem to account for it. (Hmmm. I wonder if one of the structured document types does a multi-step load...?) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
MPMusicPlayerController playbackState
I have a simple program that uses code such as: MPMusicPlayerController *player = [MPMusicPlayerController applicationMusicPlayer]; [player setQueueWithQuery:entityQuery]; [player beginGeneratingPlaybackNotifications]; [player play]; In case it matters, 'entityQuery' always references a single item. What then happens is that my MPMusicPlayerControllerPlaybackStateDidChangeNotification handler gets called twice with (playbackState == MPMusicPlaybackStatePlaying). There are no intervening calls, which first got me wondering how 'playing' to 'playing' can be defined as a state change. Some debugging revealed that userInfo for the notification contains a MPMusicPlayerControllerPlaybackStateKey item which is 0 on the first call and 1 on the second. Assuming (at least somewhat reasonably) that the userInfo code should match the advertised state and checking the associated enum, it seems as if the first call should have reported 'Stopped' rather than 'Playing'. Anyone have any better information on this? If there's documentation on when and why notifications are sent (and the expected state transitions) beyond the implications in their names, I haven't been able to find it. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Setting a delegate on a UITextField
On 2011-03-03, at 5:01 PM, Jon Sigman wrote: What am I overlooking? First question: Is your 'nameTextField' truly non-nil when you set its delegate? Second question: What do you define as finished editing? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
UIWebView: Scale factor
I'm loading files into a UIWebView on an iPad and need to be able to scroll them programatically to positions in the displayed files. Many of these files are PDF, but generally it could be any of the types supported by loadRequest. I'm able to do what I want using JavaScript if I set up my UIWebView with scalesPagesToFit = NO. However, doing that looks terrible. The problem with allowing automatic scaling is that I know my scrolling requirements in screen units but JavaScript interprets them as document units. Depending on the original file and the iPad orientation the error factors I've seen are in the 20-to-40% range. How do I set scalesPagesToFit = YES and know what scaling was applied? (I have a truly terrible hack in mind but I hope to be saved from that madness. :-) ) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
UITableView: Delay select recognition
I would like to have either an action occur that's linked to a double-tap in a UITableViewCell subclass *or* the action specified by the ...didSelectRowAtIndexPath:... method of the owning UITableView, but not both. I've encountered some problems with each approach I've tried. - Having the table's select method perform an action after a delay and ask the cell whether it should *really* do it sort of works but is a bit scary since it depends on the length of delay. (I really don't like things that only function if a timing window is always valid.) - Obviously, pulling out the table's gesture recognizer and setting up dependencies is a bad idea, mostly because that recognizer isn't documented, but also because it's not the cell that's recognizing its own selection. (Having the table depend on the failure of all its cells sounds overly complex.) - I had one idea that seemed promising for a while. Creating both a single-tap and a double-tap recognizer for the cell does prevent the table's select method from being called. My theory was that perhaps I could use... [singleTap requireGestureRecognizerToFail:doubleTap]; ...in the cell and *somehow* trigger the table's select only if the single-tap succeeded. Unfortunately (and unexpectedly!) putting that dependency on the single-tap stopped it from blocking the table's select. At this point, my feeling is that maybe I should handle both single and double taps in the cell -- with the dependency, send a custom notification for the table to use when single succeeds, and do nothing in the table's normal select cell logic. OTOH, I also feel that this must be a common requirement and therefore easier than I'm making it appear. (?) --- ( It would be so much easier to not fight with the framework if the framework was a little less hostile. I think I'm seeing one violation of the Principle of Least Astonishment for every two hours of work that I do with it. :) ) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: UITableView: Delay select recognition
On 2011-01-27, at 10:42 AM, Luke Hiesterman wrote: What is this gesture recognizer you speak of pulling out of the table view? Table view does not use gestures for selection, but you're right that even if it did, you shouldn't mess with it. For solely educational purposes, I made the (apparently incorrect) assumption that UIScrollViewDelayedTouchesBeganGestureRecognizer would be responsible for touches in the table view. Perhaps it's another trick of timing, but forcing it to wait on the outcome of my double-tap seems to do exactly what I wanted...in the simplest case I could devise, at least. A single tap by itself would fire before the table gets a chance to process any touches. By adding the failure requirement you allow the table to get touch events when the gesture doesn't fire immediately. That's certainly what I saw. (Which once again brings up my lifelong hatred for timing-dependent code...as mentioned elsewhere. :) ) Have you tried just having a double tap gesture and doing everything there? Perform one action on the succeed case and another on the failure case. I'm not sure how that works. If my target action is called, then the double succeeded but how would I know it failed except through a dependent single succeeding? Should I be looking at the UIGestureRecognizerDelegate for that? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: UITableView: Delay select recognition
On 2011-01-27, at 1:06 PM, Luke the Hiesterman wrote: Knowing that it failed would require a subclass. Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. For now, it seems as if application-specific notifications sent from the cells on single and double taps, combined with ignoring the select in my UITableViewDelegate, will work in a way that's more obvious, given my current level of knowledge. I'll take a closer look at your suggestion when things blow up. :) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: iOS: Settings Security
On 2011-01-23, at 10:57 AM, John Joyce wrote: I can see a scenario where you want an app for classroom use by students that is configurable only by the instructor but usable by all. Thanks for the profile reference, but my situation is more about a single device that might sometimes be used by a minor. Under normal operation a program would by considered to have a 4+ rating, but could exceed that if someone changed some of its settings to point to URLs with questionable material. If changes to those settings were restricted to the person exercising parental control then there would at least be a level of protection equivalent to what the system provides for browsers and such. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Question about split view
On 2011-01-16, at 10:08 PM, Kyle Sluder wrote: I'm sure developers would love if the frameworks *did* manage memory correctly. In the absence of page/swap space for modified memory, I'm not sure what 'correctly' means. :-) To my way of thinking, the problem is that there's no well-defined and now we're back notification. Re-using the method that's normally called to load the startup state of a view doesn't quite cut it when the view should actually represent on-going state changes. Maybe an approach is to use didReceiveMemoryWarning to create a record of differences vs. startup and, if not nil, apply those in viewDidAppear. Another thought would be for the framework to have a 'dirty' flag to control whether a view could be unloaded/reloaded without harm. I guess I'll look at the possibility of preventing unloading (at least of the detail view), perhaps in combination with my own 'dirty' indicator. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
iOS: Question about split view
I see a problem with the following scenario: 1) Start with the template project for a split view 2) Add a function where a modal view can be shown over it using a style of UIModalPresentationFullScreen 3) Run in portrait mode 4) While the modal view is being shown, trigger a memory warning 5) Dismiss the modal view The result is that the 'Events' button that brings up the popover root controller is no longer displayed. The view has been reloaded, but the callback that sets up the 'Events' button hasn't been activated. I'm handling this by saving a reference to the button the first time I'm given it and then, in viewDidAppear:, checking for portrait orientation and the identity of the first item on the toolbar. This feels like a hack. Does anyone have a better strategy for this one?___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
iOS: 'Random' enable/disable
This may be obvious to people, but it took me a while to figure out, so I thought I'd post it in case it saves someone a bit of time. My application is structured with a split view controller as the main interface element. The root view has a primary controller, and a second one which is pushed onto it by means of clicking a toolbar button on the detail view. When the primary controller is active, the button is enabled; when the second one is active, the button is disabled. All is good, except The application also presents a full screen modal view according to a user request, with a button to dismiss it. Very rarely, when the modal view is dismissed and the second controller is active, the button to select the second controller shows as enabled. There is no code path in the app that allows that. The answer is: if there is a memory warning delivered while the split view controller is obscured, its controllers dump their views and reload them when needed. Of course they reload them in whatever state they're defined in the nib file. Lesson: assuming that nib settings are only for application start up is wrong. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
UIActionSheet: Odd behavior / appearance
While attempting to use a UIActionSheet with dynamically added buttons, I seem
to have discovered some oddities with how they work...or don't.
I create a simple View-based application and add the following code:
- (void)showMyActionSheet {
UIActionSheet *sheet = [[UIActionSheet alloc] initWithTitle:@Test Sheet
delegate:self cancelButtonTitle:nil destructiveButtonTitle:@Delete
otherButtonTitles:nil];
for (int i = 1; i = 14; i++) {
[sheet addButtonWithTitle:[NSString stringWithFormat:@Button %d, i]];
}
UIView *aView = [self view];
[sheet showFromRect:CGRectMake(472.0, 233.0, 58.0, 29.0) inView:aView
animated:YES];
[sheet release];
}
- (void)viewDidLoad {
[super viewDidLoad];
[self performSelectorOnMainThread:@selector(showMyActionSheet)
withObject:nil waitUntilDone:NO]; // Hack to avoid nil: 'viewDidLoad' isn't
'viewDidLoadCompletely'
}
If I run this in portrait orientation, I get a display of buttons up to Button
12 with thick black lines between, a small amount of the next button, and no
ability to scroll to the end of the list.
If I run it landscape, the button style is different with thin dividing lines,
scrolling is enabled, but the Delete button has only a small red section at
the beginning instead of having an entirely red background. (I could live with
this; it;s the portrait display that's a deal-breaker.)
Another troubling variation comes from running landscape and replacing the
'showFromRect' line with:
[sheet showFromRect:CGRectMake(472.0, 633.0, 58.0, 29.0) inView:aView
animated:YES];
In this case, I get the nicer, scrollable sheet...but it will not scroll far
enough to leave the bottom two buttons on the screen (scrolls and bounces back).
Solutions would be nice, of course, but I'm as much interested in whether
someone can run a sanity check to see if they witness the same
strangeness.___
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Re: UIActionSheet: Odd behavior / appearance
On 2010-12-23, at 6:31 PM, Fritz Anderson wrote: It's not designed to handle that many well The actual minimum number of buttons that cause it to fail is unknown (to me); what I posted was chosen because it was a quick way to demonstrate all three 'surprises'. Considering that it breaks in *different* ways depending on screen location, testing someone else's code for where the boundaries are isn't an appealing exercise. By its nature, the UIActionSheet will scroll its contents -- which implies an expectation of more contained items than are visible on the screen -- so consistency would be nice. If there are specific limits, documentation of those would also be good. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
UITextField in UIScrollView
I have a number of UITextField objects inside a (subclass of) UIView, which is
the content view for a (subclass of) UIScrollView.
When the user types into a text field, I dynamically change its size if
necessary and reset the content size of the content view. When needed, I also
scroll so that a rectangle matching the typing position of the active text
field is visible in the scroll area. So far, so good.
When the content size is larger than the visible space and the user moves to an
empty UITextField to type, the display scrolls right and left on each
character. The problem is that scrollRectToVisible:: is being called from a
UIFieldEditor object with a rectangle that is the size of the entire content
area rather than anything related to the current field or the location where
characters are being entered.
Here's a bit of the traceback:
#0 -[MultiLineScrollView scrollRectToVisible:animated:] (self=0x4d2b810,
_cmd=0x6cddd5, rect={origin = {x = 0, y = 0}, size = {width = 1119, height =
740}}, animated=1 '\001')
#1 0x0035dd84 in -[UIFieldEditor scrollSelectionToVisible:] ()
#2 0x0035bc18 in -[UIFieldEditor webViewDidChange:] ()
#3 0x0001f6c1 in _nsnote_callback ()
#4 0x00d84f99 in __CFXNotificationPost_old ()
#5 0x00d0433a in _CFXNotificationPostNotification ()
#6 0x00015266 in -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:]
()
#7 0x00d1d67d in __invoking___ ()
#8 0x00d1d551 in -[NSInvocation invoke] ()
#9 0x0211982a in SendDelegateMessage ()
#10 0x01f6636f in WebEditorClient::respondToChangedContents ()
#11 0x02166fdc in WebCore::Editor::appliedEditing ()
I suppose I could set up a flag to ignore the call if I've already scrolled the
current text field or if the height suggests that it's *not* a text field, but
I'm interested in finding a way to handle this that isn't fighting with the
framework if at all possible.
(Also, strictly out of curiosity, what are WebCore, WebView, and
WebEditorClient things doing in a
UITextField?)___
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iOS: Monospaced fonts aren't?
I've been having one of those I must be doing something stupid days. The
code I'm trying to write needs to pad one string with spaces so that certain
characters line up visually with selected characters in a different string
(within a view). It seemed like a relatively easy task as long as I could
require the use of a monospaced font. However, it comes out looking various
kinds of wrong depending on how many spaces I add. I've tried this with a
number of Courier variants with the same result.
The following test seems to confirm that a string of spaces does not render in
the same bounding box as a string of alphanumeric characters or punctuation
marks. (Also, that there may not be a neat and obvious formula for how to
compensate.) Are these results reproducible? Was a fixed-size character width
a bad assumption? Or is it a bug?
- (void)debugFont {
UIFont *font = [UIFont fontWithName:@CourierNewPS-BoldMT size:24];
// With 22 characters, there's a width difference of 9
NSString *s1 = @1234567890123456789012;
NSString *s2 = @ ;
// The choice of non-space character doesn't seem to matter
NSString *s5 = @..;
// With 23 characters, there's a width difference of 10
NSString *s3 = @12345678901234567890123;
NSString *s4 = @ ;
NSLog(@@. size: %f, s1, [s1 sizeWithFont:font].width);
NSLog(@@. size: %f, s2, [s2 sizeWithFont:font].width);
NSLog(@@. size: %f, s5, [s5 sizeWithFont:font].width);
NSLog(@@. size: %f, s3, [s3 sizeWithFont:font].width);
NSLog(@@. size: %f, s4, [s4 sizeWithFont:font].width);
}
2010-12-10 14:19:03.936 FontTest[1834:207] .1234567890123456789012. size:
317.00
2010-12-10 14:19:03.937 FontTest[1834:207] . . size:
308.00
2010-12-10 14:19:03.938 FontTest[1834:207] size:
317.00
2010-12-10 14:19:03.938 FontTest[1834:207] .12345678901234567890123. size:
332.00
2010-12-10 14:19:03.939 FontTest[1834:207] . . size:
322.00
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Re: iOS: Monospaced fonts aren't?
A little more investigation: On 2010-12-10, at 2:39 PM, Phillip Mills wrote: I've been having one of those I must be doing something stupid days. [...] 2010-12-10 14:19:03.936 FontTest[1834:207] .1234567890123456789012. size: 317.00 2010-12-10 14:19:03.937 FontTest[1834:207] . . size: 308.00 2010-12-10 14:19:03.938 FontTest[1834:207] size: 317.00 2010-12-10 14:19:03.938 FontTest[1834:207] .12345678901234567890123. size: 332.00 2010-12-10 14:19:03.939 FontTest[1834:207] . . size: 322.00 Well, as some kind of consolation I've discovered that similar code (using NSString sizeWithAttributes:) and the same font name gives equal widths for digits or spaces on the Mac SDK. The other thing I notice is that the iOS-generated width divided by the number of characters is exactly 14 for spaces, but is something close to 14.4 for all other tests. This makes me wonder whether something is being truncated or converted at the wrong point within the size calculation.___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: iOS: Monospaced fonts aren't?
On 2010-12-10, at 5:38 PM, Ian Joyner wrote: Is plain Courier not available on iOS? Courier is there but with the same problem. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
iPad: Some popover problems resolved
Yesterday I was getting frustrated that nothing I did in Interface Builder produced a popover that looked right when I rotated my split view application to portrait orientation. Not only did it not look the way I wanted, I couldn't get it back to its default appearance either. It had decided that the navigation bar should be white lettering embossed on a white background. That's not how it looked in IB, but it's how it appeared in every (clean!) build of the program. Late last night, while away from the computer, something I remembered made me suspicious. When I was experimenting in IB with different options, I got to a point where the changes weren't visible until I went to the UINavigationController and toggled the show setting off and then on again. I guessed that something had gotten messed up inside the .xib file. This morning I created an empty split view project, configured its MainWindow.xib roughly like the problematic project and used a text editor to compare. Sure enough, there were persistent background color references in there that didn't match the IB settings. After some careful editing I still don't have what I'd prefer but I'm no worse off than before I started color customization. Compared to yesterday, that's success! :-) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: navigation bar tint color issue on iOS 4.2
On 2010-12-03, at 11:13 AM, Matt Neuburg wrote: On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 22:03:50 +0800, Kin Mak kin...@me.com said: I have just upgraded my XCode to 3.2.5 and built and linked my iPad app using iOS 4.2. However, there seems to be a bug regarding navigation's bar tint color and popover: I am having an iPad app using split view controller. The pop over controller contains a navigation controller with a table view controller as its root. The navigation bar's tint color is a custom color. If the pop over is popped up in portrait mode, the navigation bar's color would switch back to its default color. Afterwards, the tint color would stay as the default one even when the navigation bar is displayed in landscape mode. The issue only happens on iOS 4.2. The same app does not have any problem when running on iOS 3.2. Does anyone have the same issue? Or do I miss something here. As so often with iOS frameworks, it's a timing issue. The split view wants to be in charge of how the nav bar looks. Your change in the tint color is being reverted *after* you make it. The way to get around this, as usual, is with delayed performance (this code is from splitViewController:willShowViewController:invalidatingBarButtonItem:): [((UINavigationController*)aViewController).navigationBar performSelector:@selector(setTintColor:) withObject:[UIColor greenColor] afterDelay:0.1]; And so on. But please, pick a nicer color. :) m. Thanks for posting that. I have a similar situation with the added complexity that the popover itself displays its navigation bar and toolbar in colors and styles that don't match what I've configured in Interface Builder for the children of the split view controller. By using something similar to what you describe, but in splitViewController:popoverController:willPresentViewController: I can affect the tint of the buttons but not the toolbar or navigationBar areas shown in the view controller that the popover is presenting. What I'd really like is a use what IB said to use property. :-)___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: navigation bar tint color issue on iOS 4.2
On 2010-12-03, at 1:15 PM, Phillip Mills wrote: I can affect the tint of the buttons but not the toolbar or navigationBar areas shown in the view controller that the popover is presenting. Just as a side note, it seems interesting that the toolbar reverts to its intended appearance when rotation goes back to landscape while the navigationBar resets to defaults. (In the popover, the toolbar appears as black opaque with its *buttons* matching the IB toolbar settings.) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: navigation bar tint color issue on iOS 4.2
On 2010-12-03, at 3:10 PM, Matt Neuburg wrote: But obviously this is something the framework would rather you didn't do. :) ...and if the framework and IB had agreed that it was a bad idea, I probably wouldn't have bothered trying...for those hours. :-)___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
iOS: UIWindow orientation
While attempting to track movement during a long press, I was surprised to discover that the x direction of an application's UIWindow seems to be for the portrait x dimension no matter how the device is turned. Using [recognizer locationOfTouch:i inView:[recognizer view]] matches the apparent x/y direction of the rotated device while [recognizer locationOfTouch:i inView:nil] is only relative to portrait. Even after seeing this, I'm having difficulty finding any documentation that describes it. (I'm curious whether I'm supposed to do something to keep the values consistent or whether that's just the way it is.) I'd assumed it would be mentioned in the gesture recognizer docs where it describes the option (or the UIWindow Class Reference, or the View Programming Guide) but I'm not seeing it. Suggestions of better places to look?___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
iPad: UI Implications
After having written a couple of simple iPad apps to investigate certain features, I'm now close to being feature-complete on my first serious application. I'm finding that the lack of a standard menu for centralizing actions is the hardest thing to get used to. As a result of that, I've adopted the seemingly reasonable policy of having custom controls or control subclasses respond to gestures and behave accordingly. This leads to a couple of design difficulties: 1) It's not always obvious what kind of UI element or gesture is appropriate (or available) for enabling a specific action, and 2) Any desired gesture has some chance -- not necessarily documented -- of conflict with one used by a standard UI element. (The iOS Human Interface Guidelines are a partial solution but they are incomplete and, by necessity, can't provide fine detail. ) At the coding level, I'm noticing that I'm using notifications far more than I would in a Mac application. In the Mac world, it's likely that an application-specific action will be recognized first by a controller (in the MVC) sense which will coordinate data and view updates in some way. With the iPad, I'm finding it more likely that a lower level object will be the natural recipient of the action and will then need to broadcast its interpretation of that. Not that there's anything wrong with that, though debugging session tend to be less intuitive, but it has required some revisions to my thinking. So far, I've resisted the temptation to replicate Mac menus using UIBarButtonItems and UIPopoverControllers. :-) I don't have any specific questions or problems associated with this but I'm curious about attitudes, techniques, patterns, or tools that others have found helpful going from Mac to iOS.___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: iPad: UI Implications
On 2010-11-26, at 11:34 AM, Ricky Sharp wrote: At a high level, you don't go from Mac to iOS. i.e. you don't attempt to port, clone the UI, etc. Actually, I'm going from Mac to iOS at an even higher level: programming style and patterns of object interaction. In other words, this application has no existing Mac equivalent, so porting is a non-starter. :-) Thanks for the tips, tough. If I ever try to create parallel applications, I'll keep those in mind. (No worries about GC. Many years of commercial development using Java has convinced me that GC invites a generally sloppy attitude...or maybe it's just Java that does that. [shrug]) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
iPad: Distribution of documents
I'm working on an application that lets a user create 'documents' that will live in the app's Documents directory. I'd like to distribute some sample documents that would be treated the same as anything the user creates, but haven't seen anything that suggests I can have XCode populate Documents as part of the installation package. I also haven't seen anything that says I can't. :-) It seems easy enough to stick them into the main bundle as resources and then copy them on a first execution. OTOH, if there's a direct way of configuring this, I'd rather go with it. (I think my main problem is that I don't actually know what the Cocoa/XCode documentation would call this kind of packaging detail even if it existed.)___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
iPad: Multiple master/detail views
I have an application that uses a few different master/detail relationships within its model and I'm having trouble figuring out how to represent that in the UI. Conceptually, I want a toolbar that is always available, with some buttons that choose what kind of thing should be displayed (plus some other global options). The chosen type of thing is then shown in a split view. When something different is chosen, the split view shows that instead. Problem #1 is that the view obtained from the split view controller seems to insist on taking up the entire window. I could compromise on that by having my toolbar duplicated in different detail views, but problem #2 is that I don't see a reasonable way of replacing contained views or view controllers after the split view has been initialized from the nib. I'm going to try experimenting with multiple UISplitViewController objects and swapping those (along with duplicated toolbars), but once again I feel there should be an easier way that I'm overlooking. Thanks in advance for tips or pointers to sample code.___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
UITableView Selection
I have an application with a split view, master/detail design. The 'master' items are dynamically created and vary in number. When I start the application, I load these for use by the table view's data source during the root view controller's viewDidLoad and everything works quite well. Except I'd like the application to automatically select the item that was selected when it was last exited. I can't do this in viewDidLoad because the table hasn't been populated yet. There also seems to be no delegate method for dealing with the end of a set of cell requests. Currently, my best idea is to subclass UITableView, override layoutSubviews so that I know when 'super' has finished, and (if it's the first time through) append selection logic. This strikes me as a clumsy was of doing something that probably should be simple. Suggestions for a cleaner approach would be appreciated.___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
UIKit: Customized text display
I'm looking at the feasibility of an iPad application. A primary view would allow for the entry of lines of text, paired with lines of annotation. Annotation lines and text lines would have different attributes: height, font, edit methods In fact it might be better for the annotation line to contain custom graphic symbols, but that's not a certainty. Text lines would be edited using the virtual keyboard; annotation lines would be manipulated by touch. Essentially, it would be arranged something like: Annotation line 1 Text line 1 Annotation line 2 Text line 2 ... My problem is that I'm not familiar enough with the UIKit to figure out what kind of view I should be using to build this interface If I were writing a program for the Mac, I'm fairly sure that I could convince NSTextView to do what I want. With Cocoa Touch, UITextView doesn't support multiple attributes. UITableView doesn't support variable cell heights and is said not to work well with UITextFields in cells. Perhaps I need to use my own container view and dynamically alternate UILabels and UITextFields...or subclass UITextView...or build a new view type from scratch Core text? Other suggestions?___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Client/Server Design
I have ideas for a number of different applications that share a general architecture: use an iPhone as a remote data-collection front end to a Mac app that does more complicated processing, or to a general purpose application such as a spreadsheet or database, or to a variety of apps that each do their own specific processing (*nix style). The core feature in all of this is a need for easy file or document transmission between the systems. I've read the notorious Technical Note TN2152, iPhone OS does not currently provide a direct way for third party developers to transfer data between the user's computer and their device, but I assume common workarounds are in place. Obviously I could follow the note's suggestions about rolling my own from lower level functions (or GameKit?), however I thought I should ask whether there are strategies and libraries that other people have found useful for solving similar problems. I'm specifically not interested in web apps since the solution should work with systems that don't have a general-purpose HTTP server configured.___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Client/Server Design
On 2010-05-05, at 2:24 PM, Jens Alfke wrote: While the device is docked the user can use iTunes to (clumsily) transfer files between the Mac filesystem and the app’s Documents folder. That seems so basic (without the 'clumsy') that I have trouble believing that it hasn't existed forever. if connecting to the user’s computer you’ll need a small listener app to run there and handle the data transfer. That was my fallback position. Greg already mentioned BLIP, a high-level messaging protocol, which is implemented in my MYNetwork library for Mac and iPhone: http://bitbucket.org/snej/mynetwork/ Thanks to both of you. I'll take a look at that. I've now also discovered a set of classes called 'PKFileServer' that I want to examine. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Objects from XML
I'm looking at converting some C++ code to Objective C. A set of utility classes that I'd written use the expat C library to convert XML into an object graph. As I experimented with switching that over to use NSXMLParser instead, it dawned on me that I was looking at creating a simple-minded, general-purpose XML unmarshaller. Is there something of the kind already freely available? If so, would it be overkill for handling relatively simple XML? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Sending a Selector to another Class.
- Message from joshua.garn...@yahoo.co.uk - but i get a warning in xcode, http://cld.ly/7c4la. (JGManagedObject is what replaces otherClass) That one is usually a case of not importing the JGManagedObject header or not declaring the class method in that interface. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Dictionary interface
I've been searching the Cocoa documentation pages on extending and interfacing with Apple applications, hoping to find notes related to the Dictionary application. An API that finds words using a soundex-type function would be nice. That, plus a plugin method to add a UI item similar to Dictionary and Thesaurus would be ideal. Should I assume that's not possible, or did I miss something? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Dictionary interface
- Message from glgue...@amug.org - You might want to explain exactly what you tried. Sure. http://developer.apple.com/reference/Cocoa/idxAppleApplications-date.html Since I'm not really interested in spell checking, but rather another Dictionary-based service it seemed like a page that describes how developers can have their applications interact with and extend these Apple applications might be a reasonable starting point. Thanks for the other reference, though. I'm not sure it's related, but I'll have a look. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
