Re: Do Debug Apps Expire on iOS?
Debug it some other way than with Xcode. Possibly you have a serious bug, but running under the debugger alters something so that the bug isn't stimulated. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Do Debug Apps Expire on iOS?
Go to Window -> Devices -> View Device Logs -Carl > On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:17 AM, Charles Jenkins wrote: > > Thank you all. I’ll start my research on how to find crash logs. > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Roland King wrote: > >> >>> On 21 Jul 2016, at 22:15, Steve Bird wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Eric E. Dolecki >> wrote: I believe that debug apps built directly to hardware have a shelf life >> of one year. At least they did. >>> >>> I don’t know, but I would hope that they would pop up some notice like >> “This app has expired. Contact the developer for the current version”. >>> >>> That would seem to be the polite thing to do, rather than driving off >> into the ditch and staying there. >> >> Debug apps expire when your debug provisioning profile expires, which you >> should know because you renewed your membership. >> >> TestFlight apps have a shorter lifetime to encourage developers to release >> test versions on a regular basis and stop TestFlight just being an easy >> mechanism for distributing private apps to your friends for a year at a >> time. >> >> So the original poster most likely has a bug. >> >> >> ___ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/cejwork%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to cejw...@gmail.com >> > > > > -- > > Charles > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/newslists%40autonomy.caltech.edu > > This email sent to newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Do Debug Apps Expire on iOS?
Thank you all. I’ll start my research on how to find crash logs. On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Roland King wrote: > > > On 21 Jul 2016, at 22:15, Steve Bird wrote: > > > > > >> On Jul 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Eric E. Dolecki > wrote: > >> > >> I believe that debug apps built directly to hardware have a shelf life > of > >> one year. At least they did. > > > > I don’t know, but I would hope that they would pop up some notice like > “This app has expired. Contact the developer for the current version”. > > > > That would seem to be the polite thing to do, rather than driving off > into the ditch and staying there. > > Debug apps expire when your debug provisioning profile expires, which you > should know because you renewed your membership. > > TestFlight apps have a shorter lifetime to encourage developers to release > test versions on a regular basis and stop TestFlight just being an easy > mechanism for distributing private apps to your friends for a year at a > time. > > So the original poster most likely has a bug. > > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/cejwork%40gmail.com > > This email sent to cejw...@gmail.com > -- Charles ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Do Debug Apps Expire on iOS?
> On 21 Jul 2016, at 22:15, Steve Bird wrote: > > >> On Jul 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: >> >> I believe that debug apps built directly to hardware have a shelf life of >> one year. At least they did. > > I don’t know, but I would hope that they would pop up some notice like “This > app has expired. Contact the developer for the current version”. > > That would seem to be the polite thing to do, rather than driving off into > the ditch and staying there. Debug apps expire when your debug provisioning profile expires, which you should know because you renewed your membership. TestFlight apps have a shorter lifetime to encourage developers to release test versions on a regular basis and stop TestFlight just being an easy mechanism for distributing private apps to your friends for a year at a time. So the original poster most likely has a bug. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Do Debug Apps Expire on iOS?
File a Radar for that. I agree that would be nice, but normally a year should be plenty when you're getting debug help from other users. On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:15 AM Steve Bird wrote: > > > On Jul 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Eric E. Dolecki > wrote: > > > > I believe that debug apps built directly to hardware have a shelf life of > > one year. At least they did. > > I don’t know, but I would hope that they would pop up some notice like > “This app has expired. Contact the developer for the current version”. > > That would seem to be the polite thing to do, rather than driving off into > the ditch and staying there. > > Steve Bird > Culverson Software - Elegant software that is a pleasure to use. > www.Culverson.com (toll free) 1-877-676-8175 > > > > > ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Do Debug Apps Expire on iOS?
> On Jul 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Eric E. Dolecki wrote: > > I believe that debug apps built directly to hardware have a shelf life of > one year. At least they did. I don’t know, but I would hope that they would pop up some notice like “This app has expired. Contact the developer for the current version”. That would seem to be the polite thing to do, rather than driving off into the ditch and staying there. Steve Bird Culverson Software - Elegant software that is a pleasure to use. www.Culverson.com (toll free) 1-877-676-8175 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Do Debug Apps Expire on iOS?
I believe that debug apps built directly to hardware have a shelf life of one year. At least they did. It sounds like you have a problem with your application (bug) that you should track down before releasing to the store. Trying looking at the crash log(s) for your application from your device and that should tell you what's going on. Eric On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:42 AM Charles Jenkins wrote: > I have an app (written in Swift) that’s nearly ready to submit to the app > store. I just need to get better background music. But it seems that every > few weeks, it stops launching on my iPhone. It seems whenever I want to > show it off, it won’t start. It dies after the launch screen appears. > > Then when I go back home and hook up my phone to my computer and use Xcode > to debug and launch to see what happens, the app launches without incident > and works fine. Then it will run normally for some weeks, despite reboots > and other events that would cause it to relaunch. > > So I see two possibilities: > > 1. Debug versions expire, iOS will not let you keep using them for months > or years, and there is no problem. > > 2. I have a serious bug that will make users mad, so I need to find out > what is happening despite the fact that it NEVER happens when I have Xcode > hooked up and could get a crash report. > > Can anyone tell me how to pursue this? What do you do if a debug version of > an app only ever crashes when you are not running in the debugger? > > -- > > Charles > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/edolecki%40gmail.com > > This email sent to edole...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Do Debug Apps Expire on iOS?
I have an app (written in Swift) that’s nearly ready to submit to the app store. I just need to get better background music. But it seems that every few weeks, it stops launching on my iPhone. It seems whenever I want to show it off, it won’t start. It dies after the launch screen appears. Then when I go back home and hook up my phone to my computer and use Xcode to debug and launch to see what happens, the app launches without incident and works fine. Then it will run normally for some weeks, despite reboots and other events that would cause it to relaunch. So I see two possibilities: 1. Debug versions expire, iOS will not let you keep using them for months or years, and there is no problem. 2. I have a serious bug that will make users mad, so I need to find out what is happening despite the fact that it NEVER happens when I have Xcode hooked up and could get a crash report. Can anyone tell me how to pursue this? What do you do if a debug version of an app only ever crashes when you are not running in the debugger? -- Charles ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
