Re: [Ann] DMG Canvas
seems fine, cannot try it though:bzip2: (stdin): trailing garbage after EOF ignored the dmg won't mount. Is it me ? Raphael On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Ricky Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2008, at 2:00 AM, Seth Willits wrote: > > Off topic, I admit, but y'all being fellow Cocoa developers, and having > > specifically written the app for us, I thought it fitting to post here. > > http://www.araelium.com/dmgcanvas/ > > > > > Where was this a few months ago? :) > > I'll have to check this out as it looks very good. I recently chucked > FileStorm (also due to numerous bugs). > > I currently use shell scripts (around hdiutil) and call them from > Automator to create my DMGs. > > ___ > Ricky A. Sharp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Instant Interactive(tm) http://www.instantinteractive.com > > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/raphael.sebbe%40gmail.com > > This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Ann] DMG Canvas
On Apr 22, 2008, at 2:00 AM, Seth Willits wrote: Off topic, I admit, but y'all being fellow Cocoa developers, and having specifically written the app for us, I thought it fitting to post here. http://www.araelium.com/dmgcanvas/ Where was this a few months ago? :) I'll have to check this out as it looks very good. I recently chucked FileStorm (also due to numerous bugs). I currently use shell scripts (around hdiutil) and call them from Automator to create my DMGs. ___ Ricky A. Sharp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instant Interactive(tm) http://www.instantinteractive.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Ann] DMG Canvas
On 22-Apr-08, at 12:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks nice. Care to comment why a FileStorm user might want to switch? :) Because I keep running into annoying bugs in FileStorm's AppleScript implementation, and the dmgcanvas command line tool might integrate into my workflow better? -- Alex Curylo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.alexcurylo.com/ Optimists see the glass half full. Pessimists see the glass half empty. Engineers see that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Ann] DMG Canvas
On 4/22/08 12:00 AM, Seth Willits said: >Off topic, I admit, but y'all being fellow Cocoa developers, and >having specifically written the app for us, I thought it fitting to >post here. >http://www.araelium.com/dmgcanvas/ Looks nice. Care to comment why a FileStorm user might want to switch? :) -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rogue Researchwww.rogue-research.com Mac Software Developer Montréal, Québec, Canada ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Ann] DMG Canvas
On Apr 22, 2008, at 8:23 AM, j o a r wrote: Technically I guess that the backgrounds and stuff is just Finder folder configuration, but for it to "work" the folder would have to automatically open, and I don't think you can make Safari (or the other browsers) do that for you when it comes to folders inside Zip files or Internet Enabled DMGs. I could be wrong though. Somehow Finder obliterates the settings for an unzipped folder, even if I use StuffIt and tell it to put the .DS_Stores in the archive. It just doesn't work the same somehow. (Plus you can't have license agreements in there.) Fighting Finder to script the appearance of the disk image is a headache on it's own; I'd rather skip the nonsense to try to force Finder into something it doesn't want to do at all. Thanks for all of the responses on and off list. -- Seth Willits ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Ann] DMG Canvas
Is there a way using this tool or even programmatically, to have disk images mount without having the collapsed toolbar? The biggest user confusion I see is that they do not even recognize it to be a window since most users don't even know what that capsule shaped button does. There is definitely a big gulf of knowledge that all of us should be working to educate users about, albeit in subtle ways. We should all be making subtle efforts to convince users that they want to and need to learn more. This reduces support costs. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Ann] DMG Canvas
First off: The app looks great from your screenshots! Well done! On Apr 22, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Jens Alfke wrote: * Because the user then has to unmount the disk image after copying the app; and because way too many naive users don't understand what a "disk image" is, and run the app right from the DMG, which works fine until the next time they reboot or log in ... and then suddenly "OMG all the apps I downloaded are gone!!" I've known people to keep re-downloading apps over and over because of this. If you create an "Internet Enabled" disk image the contents is unpacked, and the disk image itself moved to the trash, for you automatically . This obviously negates most of the neat userinterfacery that you get out of using this app in the first place though... I'm not sure if you can both have your cake and eat it when it comes to software distribution. Either you use something like a Zip file, or an Internet Enabled DMG - In which case you don't get the nice disk image backgrounds that we all love (and click through licences that we all hate), OR you get background, but also all the overhead and usability problems of DMGs. Technically I guess that the backgrounds and stuff is just Finder folder configuration, but for it to "work" the folder would have to automatically open, and I don't think you can make Safari (or the other browsers) do that for you when it comes to folders inside Zip files or Internet Enabled DMGs. I could be wrong though. j o a r ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Ann] DMG Canvas
> * Because the user then has to unmount the disk image after copying the > app; and because way too many naive users don't understand what a "disk > image" is, and run the app right from the DMG, which works fine until the > next time they reboot or log in ... and then suddenly "OMG all the apps I > downloaded are gone!!" I've known people to keep re-downloading apps over > and over because of this. That's a debate that's probably more appropriate for another list, but it's the first thing I thought of. I already use another tool that automates this process (FileStorm) but I've been on the fence for awhile about the use of disk images because of the regular user support problems it sets up. I say that only to impart anecdotal goodness: I've been accused of deleting someone's application after they rebooted as an underhanded tactic. They apologized (albeit bitterly) when they realized they didn't follow the installation instructions and the application's disk image had simply been unmounted upon reboot. Because of course my goal is to screw the users for no apparent reason, giving them fuel for their blogs ... Anyway, Seth: this looks like a well-polished utility from the screenshots alone. Congrats and thanks! I'll download it and give it a closer look when I have more time. -- I.S. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Ann] DMG Canvas
This looks very cool! But for the benefit of those of us who hate the use of DMGs for software downloads*, would it be possible to add an option to create a ZIP file instead? —Jens * Because the user then has to unmount the disk image after copying the app; and because way too many naive users don't understand what a "disk image" is, and run the app right from the DMG, which works fine until the next time they reboot or log in ... and then suddenly "OMG all the apps I downloaded are gone!!" I've known people to keep re- downloading apps over and over because of this. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Ann] DMG Canvas
On Apr 22, 2008, at 3:00 AM, Seth Willits wrote: Greetings Cocoa Heads, Off topic, I admit, but y'all being fellow Cocoa developers, and having specifically written the app for us, I thought it fitting to post here. http://www.araelium.com/dmgcanvas/ Definitely _not_ off topic. Applications for use by developers is most certainly on-topic for this list. As are frameworks and libraries for Cocoa developers to use. Scott [Moderator] I only wish most apps like this also gave the option of dragging to a user application folder too. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
