RE: Adobe new products

[Argyn . Kuketayev]

You are right, it's an applet in Netscape, and HTML form in IE. 

-Original Message-
From: Tony Collen
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Sent: 10/17/02 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe new products

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> doesn't look like an applet to me. It's ASP with HTML forms. Ain't I
right?
>
>  
>
I tried the second application method 
(http://apps.accelio.com/license/license.asp?formname=regulation.xft&pre
ference=reach), 
and it seemed to load an applet.

Tony



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RE: Adobe new products

[Argyn . Kuketayev]

I don't get why they use an Applet. This applet simply makes a browser to
submit the HTTP request to the same ASP, where the HTML form does. 

-Original Message-
From: Ilya A. Kriveshko
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Sent: 10/17/02 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe new products

I do not see the need for it to be an applet, though.
There is nothing there that [D]HTML couldn't do.
But why make it simple? ;-)
--
Ilya

Tony Collen wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> doesn't look like an applet to me. It's ASP with HTML forms. Ain't I 
>> right?
>
> I tried the second application method 
>
(http://apps.accelio.com/license/license.asp?formname=regulation.xft&pre
ference=reach), 
> and it seemed to load an applet.
>
> Tony




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RE: Adobe new products

[Argyn . Kuketayev]

 doesn't look like an applet to me. It's ASP with HTML forms. Ain't I right?


-Original Message-
From: Tony Collen
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10/17/02 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe new products

Tony Collen wrote:

>
> Matthew,
>
> I did some digging, and it seems to be a result of their acquisition 
> back in April of a company named "Accelio".  I posted my findings at 
> http://manero.org/weblog/archives/05.html#05


BTW, I just played with the Adobe Accelio Capture demo, and it's 
basically a java applet that displays and validates a form.  Check it 
out at http://apps.accelio.com/license/default.htm .  

When the form is filled out correctly, it submits the data to a server, 
and then gives you a printable (PDF) of the form you just filled out. 
 This sounds like a good application of XForms + fo2pdf Serializer :D

Tony



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RE: Cocoon & Java Specification Request (JSR)

[Argyn . Kuketayev]

I don't find Cocoon following MVC. At least not that MVC which is in
Smalltalk.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 10/17/02 5:07 AM
Subject: Cocoon & Java Specification Request (JSR)

Hello,

I was wondering whether anyone has submitted/or is thinking of
submitting a JSR for the MVC model that Cocoon uses since it seems to be
ahead of the current JSP (model 1) based approach. This would also help
to promote Cocoon as a reference implementation and raise the
consciousness of the wider community. Just a thought.

For further information see:
http://www.jcp.org/jsr/overview/

Cheers,
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RE: [OT]: Any Cocoon developer in the Rome area ?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: [OT]: Any Cocoon developer in the Rome area ?







> -Original Message-
> From: Luca Morandini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:01 PM
> To: Cocoon-dev; Cocoon-users
> Subject: [OT]: Any Cocoon developer in the Rome area ?


> I recall some talks about setting up a "Cocoon marketplace", 
> but none came out of it, is that so ?


if there were a demand, there would be supply, I guess.

RE: [ANN] Another article on Cocoon - Web Syndication

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: [ANN] Another article on Cocoon - Web Syndication





a typical Y2k bug in Unix :)


> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:00 AM
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> Subject: RE: [ANN] Another article on Cocoon - Web Syndication
> 
> 
> 
> That article was published on January 1, 1970
> only few days before I was born. 

RE: Chinese Cocoon developers ?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: Chinese Cocoon developers ?





I did some experiements with PDF publishing in chinese with Cocoon 2.0.3. I'm not chinese, and don't speak any chinese though.

> -Original Message-
> From: jamin rubio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Chinese Cocoon developers ?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have some question : Is there some chinese developers who 
> developed a
> website in chinese language using cocoon ?
> 
> 
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RE: I hate typo-s

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: I hate typo-s



FAR 
Manager + colorer?

  -Original Message-From: Greg Jones 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:44 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: I hate 
  typo-s
  It seems that most of my frustration with any 
  programming environment is my own typing mistakes. 
  This is why I'm willing to purchase an IDE that 
  will check for such things and alert me of such things. 
  Does anyone know of an IDE that will check XSP 
  values, utilizing the LogicSheets. I'm currently using JEdit which does a 
  great job at ensuring my tags are well formatted but inside the tags, it can't 
  check to see if the expression is entered correctly.
  Thanks. 

RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?





well, I don't remember who started the thread, not me though :)


I'll also need some sort of solution with large PDF files. The idea is that you come and launch report, and given a URL to check it later (when PDF is ready). The URL would point to a file on the disk, which will be stored for some time, say one day.

Cashing is for a different situation, which you described.




> -Original Message-
> From: Geoff Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:54 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> > -Message d'origine- 
> > De: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Date: vendredi 16 août 2002 16:40 
> > À: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
> > Objet: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file? 
> > 
> ... 
> > on the other hand, having the caching configured properly 
> > would probably 
> > solve the problem too. 
> 
> Wait, this last statement makes it sound like you are only interested 
> in keeping the results cached to reduce load.  If that is the case, 
> use cocoon caching - it will automatically keep the result in 
> memory and
> optionally write it out to disk/database as well.  Caching 
> will not keep 
> a .pdf file anywhere - it remembers ("compiles" in docs is misnomer) 
> the byte-stream for reuse if appropriate.  I would highly 
> reccomend against 
> attempting to introduce your own file-based caching system 
> when a good one 
> is already in place.
> 
> Hopefully, that's not what you meant by that.  
> 
> Geoff
> 
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RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?





ok, I'll check that, thanks


> -Original Message-
> From: ROSSEL Olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:43 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> well, the SWT writes to a WritableSource, AFTER being 
> serialized by its OWN
> serializer.
> So the main pipeline can be a HTML report of the PDF written to disk.
> 
> -Message d'origine-
> De: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Date: vendredi 16 août 2002 16:40
> À: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Objet: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> 
> I still don't see how this will work with PDF. 
> 
> PDF comes only from FOPSerializer. the last step in the 
> pipeline. So, if you
> want to write its result on the disk, how can SWT be useful?
> 
> I thought, maybe it makes a sense to have a special type of 
> transformer or
> serializers, which would save output on the hard disk, but 
> pass the URL to
> the pipeline. so, there'll be uniform way to deal with this sort of
> situations.
> 
> on the other hand, having the caching configured properly 
> would probably
> solve the problem too. 
> 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: ROSSEL Olivier [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
> > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:35 AM 
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
> > Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file? 
> > 
> > 
> > Sure. 
> > The main pipeline continues but the portion of XML 
> > corresponding to the SWT has been replaced by the result 
> > of the SWT step. 
> >  
> > Input: 
> > <...> 
> >  
> >   
> >  <...> 
> >   
> >  
> > <...> 
> >  
> > Output: 
> > <...> 
> >  
> > <...> 
> >  
> > Note: this is not the correct syntax, at all. But this is 
> the idea :-) 
> > 
> >  
> >  -Message d'origine- 
> > De: Argyn Kuketayev [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
> > Date: vendredi 16 août 2002 16:26 
> > À: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
> > Objet: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > isn't there to be a serializer after the transformer in the 
> pipeline? 
> > 
> > > -Original Message- 
> > > From: Geoff Howard [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> > < mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ] 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:22 AM 
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
> > > Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > Yes! you want SourceWritingTransformer from Cocoon 2.1 dev.  
> > > > > There is a 
> > > > > parameter to tell it how to serialize the output.  It writes 
> > > > > to a file 
> > > > > on the local hard drive. 
> > > > 
> > > > SWT can have its own serializer? What a great stuff! 
> > > > Is this feature available in the scratchpad of C2.0.3? 
> > > 
> > > Yes, just checked and it's in scratchpad of 2.0.3. 
> > > From the java docs: 
> > > 
> > > This transformer allows you to output to a WritableSource. 
> > > 
> > > Definition: 
> > > 
> > > src=""org.apache.cocoon.transformation.SourceWritingTransformer">" 
> > >    
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Invocation: 
> > > 
> > >  
> > >    
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Input XML document example: 
> > > 
> > > http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0
> <http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0>  
> > < http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0
> <http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0> > "> 
> > >   ... 
> > >   " 
> > >  
> > >   XML Object body 
> > >  
> > >    
> > >   ... 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Output XML document example: 
> > > 
> > > http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0
> <http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0>  
> > < http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0
> <http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0> > "> 
> > >   ... 
> > >   
> > > src=""/source/specific/path/to/context/d

RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?





I still don't see how this will work with PDF.


PDF comes only from FOPSerializer. the last step in the pipeline. So, if you want to write its result on the disk, how can SWT be useful?

I thought, maybe it makes a sense to have a special type of transformer or serializers, which would save output on the hard disk, but pass the URL to the pipeline. so, there'll be uniform way to deal with this sort of situations.

on the other hand, having the caching configured properly would probably solve the problem too.


> -Original Message-
> From: ROSSEL Olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:35 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> Sure.
> The main pipeline continues but the portion of XML
> corresponding to the SWT has been replaced by the result
> of the SWT step.
>  
> Input:
> <...>
> 
>  
>  <...>
>  
> 
> <...>
>  
> Output:
> <...>
> 
> <...>
>  
> Note: this is not the correct syntax, at all. But this is the idea :-)
> 
>  
>  -Message d'origine-
> De: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Date: vendredi 16 août 2002 16:26
> À: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Objet: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> 
> isn't there to be a serializer after the transformer in the pipeline? 
> 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Geoff Howard [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
> > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:22 AM 
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
> > Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file? 
> > 
> > 
> > > > Yes! you want SourceWritingTransformer from Cocoon 2.1 dev.  
> > > > There is a 
> > > > parameter to tell it how to serialize the output.  It writes 
> > > > to a file 
> > > > on the local hard drive. 
> > > 
> > > SWT can have its own serializer? What a great stuff! 
> > > Is this feature available in the scratchpad of C2.0.3? 
> > 
> > Yes, just checked and it's in scratchpad of 2.0.3. 
> > From the java docs: 
> > 
> > This transformer allows you to output to a WritableSource. 
> > 
> > Definition: 
> > 
> > src=""org.apache.cocoon.transformation.SourceWritingTransformer">" 
> >    
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > Invocation: 
> > 
> >  
> >    
> >  
> > 
> > Input XML document example: 
> > 
> > http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0
> <http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0> "> 
> >   ... 
> >   " 
> >  
> >   XML Object body 
> >  
> >    
> >   ... 
> >  
> > 
> > Output XML document example: 
> > 
> > http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0
> <http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0> "> 
> >   ... 
> >   
> > src=""/source/specific/path/to/context/doc/editable/my.xml"" 
> > result="success|failure" action="new"> 
> >  source specific error message 
> >    
> >   ... 
> >  
> > 
> > Geoff 
> > 
> > 
> - 
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> answered in the 
> > FAQ before posting. < 
> http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html
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RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?





isn't there to be a serializer after the transformer in the pipeline?


> -Original Message-
> From: Geoff Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:22 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> > > Yes! you want SourceWritingTransformer from Cocoon 2.1 dev.  
> > > There is a 
> > > parameter to tell it how to serialize the output.  It writes 
> > > to a file 
> > > on the local hard drive.
> > 
> > SWT can have its own serializer? What a great stuff!
> > Is this feature available in the scratchpad of C2.0.3?
> 
> Yes, just checked and it's in scratchpad of 2.0.3.
> From the java docs:
> 
> This transformer allows you to output to a WritableSource.
> 
> Definition:
> 
> src=""org.apache.cocoon.transformation.SourceWritingTransformer">
>    
>  
> 
> 
> Invocation:
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Input XML document example:
> 
> http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0">
>   ...
>   
> 
>   XML Object body
> 
>   
>   ...
> 
> 
> Output XML document example:
> 
> http://apache.org/cocoon/source/1.0">
>   ...
>   
> src=""/source/specific/path/to/context/doc/editable/my.xml"
> result="success|failure" action="new">
>  source specific error message
>   
>   ...
> 
> 
> Geoff
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RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?





thanks, I've seen it mentioned earlier.


> -Original Message-
> From: Geoff Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:12 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> > will this code get .pdf file over HTTP? 
> > if yes, then wouldn't it be more efficient if instead of 
> that, you somehow
> 
> > directly write on the hard disk without loading a Web server?
> 
> Yes! you want SourceWritingTransformer from Cocoon 2.1 dev.  
> There is a 
> parameter to tell it how to serialize the output.  It writes 
> to a file 
> on the local hard drive.
> 
> Geoff
> 
> 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Terry Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:44 AM 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file? 
> > 
> > 
> > All, 
> > 
> > Sorry, mentioned the wrong transformer earlier. Used stream 
> generator, 
> > posted xml, saved to file. See code below. 
> > 
> > JAVA CLASS: 
> > URL url = new URL("http://path/xml2pdf.pdf"); 
> > HttpURLConnection httpConn = null; 
> > try { 
> > httpConn = (HttpURLConnection)url.openConnection(); 
> > httpConn.setDoInput(true); 
> > httpConn.setDoOutput(true); 
> > httpConn.setRequestMethod("POST"); 
> > httpConn.setUseCaches(false); 
> > httpConn.setDefaultUseCaches(false); 
> >  
> > httpConn.setRequestProperty("content-type","application/x-www- 
> > form-urlen 
> > coded"); 
> >  
> > httpConn.setRequestProperty("content-length",String.valueOf(xm 
> > l_os.size( 
> > ))); 
> > PrintWriter pw = new 
> > PrintWriter(httpConn.getOutputStream()); 
> > String content = "Foo=" + URLEncoder.encode(new 
> > String(xml_os.toByteArray()),"UTF-8"); 
> > pw.println(content); 
> > pw.close(); 
> > 
> > InputStream is = httpConn.getInputStream(); 
> > BufferedInputStream bis = new 
> BufferedInputStream(is); 
> > byte[] buff = new byte[512]; 
> > ByteArrayOutputStream bos = new 
> > ByteArrayOutputStream(); 
> > String line = null; 
> > int len = 0; 
> > while( (len=bis.read(buff)) != -1) { 
> > bos.write(buff, 0, len); 
> > } 
> > bis.close(); 
> > String fileName = "out.pdf"; 
> > FileOutputStream fos = null; 
> > File file = null; 
> > try { 
> > file = new File(fileName); 
> > fos = new FileOutputStream(file); 
> > fos.write(bos.toByteArray()); 
> > } catch (IOException ioe) { 
> > System.out.println("Exception Caught: 
> > Creating .pdf 
> > File"); 
> > ioe.printStackTrace(); 
> > } finally { 
> > if (fos!=null) { 
> > fos.close(); 
> > } 
> > } 
> > System.out.println("* FILE CREATED: 
> "+fileName+" 
> > *"); 
> > 
> > SITEMAP.XMAP : 
> >    
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > " 
> >  
> >    
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Derek Hohls [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:50 AM 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file? 
> > 
> > 
> > Can you supply a link to this discussion/anwer? 
> > 
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16/08/2002 12:20:57 >>> 
> > This has been answered in the archives. 
> > I used the pdf transformer and saved the output stream to a file. 
> >  
> > TA 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Geoff Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 2:07 PM 
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
> > Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file? 
> > 
> > 
> > you should check the archives - i'm pretty sure this has been 
> > answered a 
> > lot.  Think you'll want SourceWritingTransformer from 
> Cocoon 2.1 dev 
> > (cvs check out from HEAD) 
> >  
> > Geoff 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: kyle koss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 1:54 PM 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Subject: Can cocoon write pdf to a file? 
> > 
> > 
> > Is it possible for Cocoon to do an XML+XSL -> PDF 
> transformation, but 
> > instead of serving the PDF into the browser, writing it to a file? 
> >  
> > What I would like to do is, take information entered into a 
> form on a 
> > jsp page, turn it into an XML file, and then apply my XSL to it to 
> > produce a PDF which is then stored to disk on the server. 
> >  
> > Can this be done using Cocoon, or would it be easier to 
> just use FOP 
> > embe

RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?





will this code get .pdf file over HTTP? 
if yes, then wouldn't it be more efficient if instead of that, you somehow directly write on the hard disk without loading a Web server?

> -Original Message-
> From: Terry Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> Sorry, mentioned the wrong transformer earlier. Used stream generator,
> posted xml, saved to file. See code below.
> 
> JAVA CLASS:
> URL url = new URL("http://path/xml2pdf.pdf");
> HttpURLConnection httpConn = null;
> try {
> httpConn = (HttpURLConnection)url.openConnection();
> httpConn.setDoInput(true);
> httpConn.setDoOutput(true);
> httpConn.setRequestMethod("POST");
> httpConn.setUseCaches(false);
> httpConn.setDefaultUseCaches(false);
>  
> httpConn.setRequestProperty("content-type","application/x-www-
> form-urlen
> coded");
>  
> httpConn.setRequestProperty("content-length",String.valueOf(xm
> l_os.size(
> )));
> PrintWriter pw = new
> PrintWriter(httpConn.getOutputStream());
> String content = "Foo=" + URLEncoder.encode(new
> String(xml_os.toByteArray()),"UTF-8");
> pw.println(content);
> pw.close();
> 
> InputStream is = httpConn.getInputStream();
> BufferedInputStream bis = new BufferedInputStream(is);
> byte[] buff = new byte[512];
> ByteArrayOutputStream bos = new 
> ByteArrayOutputStream();
> String line = null;
> int len = 0;
> while( (len=bis.read(buff)) != -1) {
> bos.write(buff, 0, len);
> }
> bis.close();
> String fileName = "out.pdf";
> FileOutputStream fos = null;
> File file = null;
> try {
> file = new File(fileName);
> fos = new FileOutputStream(file);
> fos.write(bos.toByteArray());
> } catch (IOException ioe) {
> System.out.println("Exception Caught: 
> Creating .pdf
> File");
> ioe.printStackTrace();
> } finally {
> if (fos!=null) {
> fos.close();
> }
> }
> System.out.println("* FILE CREATED: "+fileName+"
> *");
> 
> SITEMAP.XMAP :
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Derek Hohls [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> Can you supply a link to this discussion/anwer?
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16/08/2002 12:20:57 >>>
> This has been answered in the archives.
> I used the pdf transformer and saved the output stream to a file.
>  
> TA
> -Original Message-
> From: Geoff Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 2:07 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
> Subject: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> you should check the archives - i'm pretty sure this has been 
> answered a
> lot.  Think you'll want SourceWritingTransformer from Cocoon 2.1 dev
> (cvs check out from HEAD)
>  
> Geoff
> -Original Message-
> From: kyle koss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 1:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?
> 
> 
> Is it possible for Cocoon to do an XML+XSL -> PDF transformation, but
> instead of serving the PDF into the browser, writing it to a file?
>  
> What I would like to do is, take information entered into a form on a
> jsp page, turn it into an XML file, and then apply my XSL to it to
> produce a PDF which is then stored to disk on the server.
>  
> Can this be done using Cocoon, or would it be easier to just use FOP
> embedded in a servlet? If it can be done, what do I have to do?
>  
> Regards, Kyle Koss
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RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?





> I can't think of any way to do this with the included Cocoon 
> components, 


why not to change FOPSerializer?


e.g. make it write the file on hard disk, then in the output stream will be only the URL to that file?

RE: Can cocoon write pdf to a file?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

what 
for?
 
 

  -Original Message-From: kyle koss 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 1:54 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Can cocoon 
  write pdf to a file?
  
  Is it possible for Cocoon 
  to do an XML+XSL -> PDF transformation, but instead of serving the PDF into 
  the browser, writing it to a file? 
   

RE: sexy open source

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: sexy open source







> -Original Message-
> From: Geoff Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:57 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: sexy open source


> So far, every time I hear someone talk about using EJB's and 
> cocoon, the
> topic gets bundled with deploying cocoon in the appserver 
> itself, which pegs
> you to one front end machine and causes all of your display 
> logic (cocoon)
> to run on the same disks and cpus as your ejb logic.  Is no 
> one using EJB's
> on a remote (conceptually remote, even if it's on the same 
> machine for now)
> server from within cocoon?



tell me what makes cocoon different from any other client EJB app? I just don't see the difference. if you may call EJBs from remote Java clients, what would prevent you from doing it from Cocoon's components? 

only thing you need is the proper classpath, with all those client .jar (necessary to obtain JNDI contexts) and remote/home interfaces from the tree.

RE: sexy open source

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: sexy open source







> -Original Message-
> From: Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:19 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: sexy open source


> Indeed, my little know-how says it would be stupid to use a 
> database for 
> information that updates rarelly, such as user authentication data.


why? if it updates really rarely, you may cach it in your appserver or anywhere else in the memory. 


frequency of updates itself is not a reason to go into dark forests of ldap from the shiny fields of RDBMS

RE: sexy open source

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: sexy open source





> Please, see me as a newbie and give me some code!
> a) Explain if there is really working possibility to
> have J2EE datasource in cocoon's web.xml alone so one
> could access it directly or is it bad idea as such?


if you deploy cocoon.war inside your application's .ear file you'll see everything, even EJBs, not to mention datasources.

when cocoon is deployed on your appserver, you can get an InitialContext of the JNDI server even easier, if it was a standalone app. I simply don't see a problem at all. I didn't have a necessity to call EJBs from Cocoon components yet, but I don't see any technical issues here.

There could be issues with exception handling, as Arthur mentioned. When XSP is compiled, it has to handle all exceptions. So, Arthur wrote that it's better to make EJB calls before rendering the page, in order to be able to dispatch the request to other pages when errors come. Otherwise, it's not a big deal to call EJB from inside Cocoon. sorry, no code attached :)

RE: sexy open source

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: sexy open source







> -Original Message-
> From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: sexy open source
 
> My BIG
> question is - HOW DO YOU ACCESS EJBs FROM COCOON?


the same way as from any other servlet container or client, I guess.
I wouldn't put EJB calls inside lgicsheet itself in XSP, probably. I'd use helper classes.


from regular components, such as generators, lookup JNDI and do whatever you do in your regular client EJB code.

RE: sexy open source

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: sexy open source







> -Original Message-
> From: I-Lin Kuo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: sexy open source


> Another drawback is that the Java API provided by Oracle is 
> for 1.2, thus 
> lacking regular expression support.


not an issue, ORO is no worse than Jdk 1.4's regexps

RE: sexy open source

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: Message



I 
meant "manually" meaning "not with GUI deplpoyers". sorry, for misunderstanding. 
of course we use Ant, when it's possible

  -Original Message-From: Hunsberger, Peter 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 
  2002 10:32 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: 
  RE: sexy open source
  
  > I 
  always deploy EJBs "manually". jBoss is easier to write deployment 
  descriptors, yes. otherwise there's not much 
  difference. 
  Why on earth would you do manual 
  deploys?  ANT is sexy!  
  

RE: sexy open source

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: Message



agree, 
DB2 is not bad. I meant that sexy bunch of software is not to be 100% open. why 
would I want open RDBMS? I've no clue in inner workings of databases, I'll never 
ever open the hood, I promise. in fact, Oracle, MS SQL server and DB2 are 
probably equally good choices. for development you may get them for free, I 
guess.
 
I 
always deploy EJBs "manually". jBoss is easier to write deployment descriptors, 
yes. otherwise there's not much difference. 

  -Original Message-From: Hunsberger, Peter 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 
  2002 10:14 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: 
  RE: sexy open source
  One 
  could certainly argue that DB2 is as sexy or sexier than Oracle; the fact that 
  Oracle 8 lacks true outer join makes it down right ugly if you ask me... 
  In any case, my real reason for responding is to say that I would consider 
  jBoss "sexy" anyone that's had to do a manual EJB deploy using something other 
  than JBoss is likely to agree...
  
    -Original Message-From: Argyn Kuketayev 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 
2002 8:11 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: 
RE: sexy open source
subj was "sexy open source". I don't think that there's "sexy open 
source" RDBMS comparing to Oracle, or even MS SQL 
Server.
 
Ok, Apache is sexy, comparing to IIS indeed. 
 
business doesn't care about opennes as much as about performance and 
features. 
 
Cocoon is sexy too, btw
jBoss is not.

  -Original Message-From: Manos Batsis 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:09 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: sexy 
  open source
  Argyn, 
  
   
  Err... 
  the subject says "open source".
   
  I don't 
  think there is a point in arguing about what sucks and what doesn't, so I 
      just won't.
   
  Manos
  

-Original Message-From: Argyn 
Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:05 PMTo: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open 
source
RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. 
cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to 
the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other 
features of Oracle are far better than anything.
> 4) Business Logic Persistence > Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service 
jBoss sucks, imho. 
  

RE: sexy open source

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: sexy open source







> -Original Message-
> From: Artur Bialecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: sexy open source


> Cocoon right now (2.0.3) has no good way to handle 
> errors generated by J2EE business logic. 


can you elaborate this in a little more details? I don't quite get what you mean by that, sorry

RE: sexy open source

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: Message



subj 
was "sexy open source". I don't think that there's "sexy open source" RDBMS 
comparing to Oracle, or even MS SQL Server.
 
Ok, 
Apache is sexy, comparing to IIS indeed. 
 
business doesn't care about opennes as much as about performance and 
features. 
 
Cocoon 
is sexy too, btw
jBoss 
is not.

  -Original Message-From: Manos Batsis 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:09 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: sexy open 
  source
  Argyn, 
  
   
  Err... the 
  subject says "open source".
   
  I don't 
  think there is a point in arguing about what sucks and what doesn't, so I just 
  won't.
   
  Manos
  
    
-Original Message-From: Argyn 
Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 
August 14, 2002 4:05 PMTo: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open 
source
RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. 
cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the 
cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of 
Oracle are far better than anything.
> 4) Business Logic Persistence > Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service 
jBoss sucks, imho. 

RE: sexy open source

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Title: RE: sexy open source





RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho.
cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything.


> 4) Business Logic Persistence
> Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service


jBoss sucks, imho.

RE: iPlanet and Coccon 2

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Sorry, I don't remember where were all problems. It took me quite a while to
get C2.0.3 working on iPlanet 6.5. Definitely, it wasn't that simple as
putting .war file in deployment folder

maybe you better start deploying on iPlanet, then post your problems here.
someone will help to resolve them

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> 
> 
> why, where is the problem?
> do you know how to do it?
> 
>  --- Argyn Kuketayev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> escribió:
> > it wasn't that easy. 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Manel Moreno Germès
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> > > thanks
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> > > and in web.xml i have to add some servlet
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> > > 
> > >  --- Alejandro Raiczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > escribió: 
> > > > I've never used IPlanet but I supose it's like
> > > > others, so, you have to put
> > > > the Cocoon jars under your WEB-INF/lib directory
> > in
> > > > your WAR file (the web
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> > > > 
> > > > Hope it works.
> > > > 
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> > > > -Mensaje original-
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RE: iPlanet and Coccon 2

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it wasn't that easy. 

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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: iPlanet and Coccon 2
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> and in web.xml i have to add some servlet
> configuration??
> 
>  --- Alejandro Raiczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> escribió: 
> > I've never used IPlanet but I supose it's like
> > others, so, you have to put
> > the Cocoon jars under your WEB-INF/lib directory in
> > your WAR file (the web
> > application).
> > 
> > Hope it works.
> > 
> > Alejandro
> > 
> > -Mensaje original-
> > De: Manel Moreno Germès
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Enviado el: Lunes 12 de Agosto de 2002 8:46 AM
> > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Asunto: iPlanet and Coccon 2
> > 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > it's possible install Cocoon 2 only for one
> > aplication, not as framework, including libraries in
> > an ear file (j2ee application) for iplanet
> > aplication
> > server 4 ??
> > 
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> > coccon in my ear file?
> > 
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RE: Build Trouble

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what was an error?

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> 
> 
> I have been using the HEAD branch from CVS, but have just 
> downloaded a copy
> of the 2.0.3 source distribution and have been unable to build.

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RE: Stream generator & XMLForms

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Stream generator & XMLForms
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 11:23:56AM -0500, Ivelin Ivanov wrote:
> > 
> > Tell us more about the problem you're trying to solve.
> > What type of content you want to send in and return back.
> > 
> > Can you you consider using HTTP GET parameters to submit to 
> Cocoon, instead
> > of XML?
> > This will allow you to use XMLForm, etc.
> I am writing an application for Pocket PC for company's 
> mobile representatives
> I don't think I can use GET parameter because of the size of 
> data (whole
> invoice for example - I do not want to collect is 
> sequentially in session
> object because it's more complicated)

recently, I was trying to find the size limit for parameters passed with GET
request. I found only that IE has ~2k (or 4k?) limit, but it seems to me
that W3C doesn't set any particular limits.

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RE: Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all the info you can take in one night about POI and the Cocoon HSSF Serializer!

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I was going to present Cocoon fot Novajug (north va JUG) in september 2001.
maybe I've to try again

> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Hoegg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 12:26 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all 
> the info you
> can take in one night about POI and the Cocoon HSSF Serializer!
> 
> 
> Yet another cocoon newbie from DC
> 
> Robert Bourdeau wrote:
> 
> >More than 3?
> >Actually, I've kinda been wondering where folks on this list
> >are from. I have started to assume that most folks are actually
> >outside the US. Anyway, this newbie is in NY.
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:56 PM
> >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >>Subject: RE: Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all 
> the info you
> >>can take in one night about POI and the Cocoon HSSF Serializer!
> >>
> >>
> >>I wonder how many ppl do Cocoon on East Coast? If more than 
> 3 then it's
> >>enough to have a sort of workshop on Outer Banks some time :)
> >>
> >>I'd love to come, but it's no way to arrange a trip from DC 
> on that short
> >>notice
> >>
> >>>-Original Message-
> >>>From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:37 PM
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> >>>Subject: Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all the 
> >>>info you can
> >>>take in one night about POI and the Cocoon HSSF Serializer!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>http://www.trijug.org/ -
> >>>
> >>>Monday night, if you're not doing too much and you live on 
> >>>the US East 
> >>>coast, why not come on down (or up to North Carolina),
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RE: Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all the info you can take in one night about POI and the Cocoon HSSF Serializer!

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I wonder how many ppl do Cocoon on East Coast? If more than 3 then it's
enough to have a sort of workshop on Outer Banks some time :)

I'd love to come, but it's no way to arrange a trip from DC on that short
notice

> -Original Message-
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> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all the 
> info you can
> take in one night about POI and the Cocoon HSSF Serializer!
> 
> 
> http://www.trijug.org/ -
> 
> Monday night, if you're not doing too much and you live on 
> the US East 
> coast, why not come on down (or up to North Carolina),
> we'll have lots of nutritious Hawaiian poi!  We'll have pizza, pop as 
> well for those of you who are not into eating mushed tarro root.
> 
> We'll go over the POI project, how to use it, what it is, etc.  We'll 
> tackle some basics of Cocoon (as applies to using the HSSF Serializer 
> and reporting), and I'll answer lots of questions.
> 
> We should have some great information sources on hand.  
> You'll have me 
> (your humble poi-servant), Marc Johnson (who won't come on 
> stage but you 
> might be able to corner him before or afterwards) and author of an 
> upcoming book, Conrad D'Cruz, who can talk to you in more 
> detail about 
> Cocoon, life, the universe and everything.
> 
> Hope to see anyone who can make it!
> 
> -Andy
> 
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RE: UTF-8 and HTML Serializer.

[Argyn Kuketayev]

can you look at the 'source' XML by serializing it with xml serializer,
instead of html?
what does it show?


> -Original Message-
> From: ROSSEL Olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:00 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: UTF-8 and HTML Serializer.
> 
> 
> In C2.0.2, I use a pipeline that produce a XML encoded with UTF-8.
> In this XML, I have one 'é' character that is coded as "Ã*" ...
> 
> After the HTML serializer , instead of having the 'é' again, I have
> two characters coded as: é.
> 
> It seems that hte serializer realized missed the UTF-8 character and
> considered
> it as US-ASCII/ISO-8859-1.
> 
> Is it a bug in Xalan, or what?
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RE: How to write XSL for PDF?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

If you are ready to go with commercial product, then it makes a sense to
look at non-XSL-FO products too.

E.g. www.faceless.org has Faceless report generator. Its advantage is that
its input format is very similar to HTML, you have to make it valid xml
document ( instead of ) though. So, if you want to generate the
HTML document, then the XSLT template is almost the same. FOP doesn't
generate HTML. RenderX provides fo2html script to make HTML out of XSL-FO,
but it's an extra step from XML content.

Faceless reporter may be integrated into Cocoon as a serializer, I've done
for fun, works well.

> -Original Message-
> From: Alexander Schatten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: How to write XSL for PDF?
> 
> 
> Cenk Uysal wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I plan to use Cocoon's PDF Serializer. But I don't know how to write
> > XSLs for styling PDF documents. Is there any resource which 
> tells how
> > to do this?
> 
> there is a commercial xsl:fo product called: XEP from RenderX. though 
> this product might not be interesting for you, they offer a pretty 
> concise and good FO tutorial (the best I found on the web) on 
> their website.
> 
> 
> alex
> 
> 
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RE: Support for XML-XSL-PDF

[Argyn Kuketayev]

your 
question better fits fop-user mailing list

  -Original Message-From: Yogesh Mulwani 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:28 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
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  Hello
   
      We are using 
  Cocoon-2.0.2 on Tomcat-3.3.1 in our application. 
      Our Application is a 
  reporting tool which generates the PDF files using XML - 
  XSL transformation
   

RE: Problems with parsing output from XML file WITHOUT spaces

[Argyn Kuketayev]

it's not a problem. it's how it works.

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:20 PM
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> Subject: Problems with parsing output from XML file WITHOUT spaces
> 
> 
> Is that a problem of cocoon ? (Im using 2.0.2)

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RE: "Clean" Cocoon

[Argyn Kuketayev]

you need 'clean build.xml'. so when you call ant, it will create you clean
Cocoon without docs, samples, and other unnecessary stuff.

> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> 
> It is fine to have examples in the Cocoon installation, but in 
> production use, you need a "clean" cocoon installation.
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RE: C2.0.3 ESQL:

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Thanks

> -Original Message-
> From: Denis Thierry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: C2.0.3 ESQL:  
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> Argyn,
> 
> You will need to convert your data (xsltransform) with:
> 
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Hope this help
> 
> Denis
> - Original Message - 
> From: Argyn Kuketayev 
> To: Cocoon-Users (E-mail) 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 5:37 PM
> Subject: C2.0.3 ESQL:  
> 
> 
> I've two questions:
> 
> 1.  generates: 
> val1val2...
> 
> how to make it generate this? val1 name="col2">val2...
> 
> 2. If my string value of the coulmn contains tags, e.g. html tags like
> "val1", will XSP generate a valid xml document?
> Re-phrasing: how to make it return this?  name="col1">
> 
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C2.0.3 ESQL:

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I've two questions:

1.  generates: val1val2...

how to make it generate this? val1val2...

2. If my string value of the coulmn contains tags, e.g. html tags like
"val1", will XSP generate a valid xml document?
Re-phrasing: how to make it return this? 

thanks

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RE: Samples as tools for learning and development (Was: Giving up ! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing)

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 9:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Samples as tools for learning and development 
> (Was: Giving
> up ! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing)
> >However the docs are improving, and the message of this 
> topic has been
> >gotten, at least by few developers. Others are still in 
> denial mode, but
> >it's Ok. 
> >  
> >
> No, the bulk of the message I tried to deliver is:  everyone 
> is aware of 
> it, people are working on it, if
> it truely bothers you, pay for your opensource software and be one of 
> those people.

Andrew,

that message was hidden in the noise. "Trolling" references, "cathedral and
bazaar" mentions and other off-topic subjects did not help you, guys, to
deliver the message. I'm left with the mixed feeling. At the end, I see that
people recognize the issue and think of solutions, but at the same time the
first reaction ("He's giving up? Let him go.") is shocking. Also, repeating
theme from many developers is MONEY, every other message advises me to pay
MONEY. It's all off-topic. I'm amazed how experienced USENET, FIDO people
were lost in off-topic. Forget "Cathedral...", there's an issue. Solve it.
We are not Free Software Prophets, we are programmers. Let's be pragmatic.

I'm not complaining, it's just my poor English :)

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RE: Samples as tools for learning and development (Was: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing)

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> -Original Message-
> From: David Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 2:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Samples as tools for learning and development (Was: 
> Giving up!
> Cocoon too big, slow and confusing)
> 

> For the moment you must look under the hood. Anyway, i find
> that getting my hands dirty is the best way to learn. Please
> follow the samples that others have tried to provide.

I always look at samples and docs. The issue is that there's not enough of
them. And some people deny the very existance of this issue.

However the docs are improving, and the message of this topic has been
gotten, at least by few developers. Others are still in denial mode, but
it's Ok. 

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RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> -Original Message-
> From: Piroumian Konstantin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:41 AM
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> Subject: RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing
> 
> 
> > From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > 
> > Good post :)
> > 
> > Wake up, guys! John raised a real issue. You can't simply say 
> > "Don't give
> > up, be patient, read mailing-list, look into sources..." and 
> > so on. If you
> > want this framework to catch the train, then there must be 
> > better support
> 
> What do you mean by "better support"? 


Maybe I'm suffering from dislexia, but reading the docs in
xml.apache.org/cocoon helped me only to understand the highest level
concepts. There were lots of tiny little issues which are not covered
anywhere  in the documentation. "What's the best way to do this and this?".
No answers anywhere but here, in the mailing list. Ok, I have a habit to
look into sources when I've time, but sometimes there's no time. You came
here and ask a question, hopefully soon you get an answer. Then comes
another issue, then another and so on. Finally, you spend whole day on some
stupid problem which could be resolved with good FAQ. 

I have to admit that things are improving with docs. FAQs are becoming real
FAQs, not those short "read mailing list" as they were before. IBM's
tutorials are a very positive step, I recommend them to everybody. They help
a lot. Again, I'm not complaining I just want to say that there's an issue,
and I'm glad that the situation with documentation is improving. I think
that the biggest issue with Cocoon is its docs.

> 
> > and better documentation. 
> > 
> > I'm not complaining, by the way. I'd love Cocoon become a mainstream
> > framework.
> 
> So, help us make it better. 

raising the issue is my help :) 

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RE: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Good post :)

Wake up, guys! John raised a real issue. You can't simply say "Don't give
up, be patient, read mailing-list, look into sources..." and so on. If you
want this framework to catch the train, then there must be better support
and better documentation. 

I'm not complaining, by the way. I'd love Cocoon become a mainstream
framework.

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing
> 
> 
> I'm back from a short vacation in beautiful Chicago (it 
> really is much 
> nicer than Toronto or Montreal) and have waded back in to 
> Cocoon for a 
> couple of days.
> 
> After just a few hours of poking around I have decided that 
> it will be 
> much simpler for me to simply hand-code a whole hat-full of servlets 
> than to try and pull any meaning out of Cocoon and it's documentation.

Two days is absolutely not enough to get a grasp of Cocoon, definitely.
Unless, you are a twin brother of Stephano :)

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adapter to DocumentHandler -> ContentHandler

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I want to write a serializer for one 3rd party component. It uses old SAX
parser. I wanted to subclass AbstractXMLPipe, but it wants ContentHandler,
while I can get only DocumentHandler.

The question is: does anybody know about wrapper/adapter for DocumentHandler
to make it look like a ContentHandler?

thanks,
Argyn

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RE: how to make XSP to extend the abstract class?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> -Original Message-
> From: Alexander Smirnoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:13 PM
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> Subject: Re: how to make XSP to extend the abstract class?
> 
> 
> or quick and dirty way - write your own taglib like that:

I have logicsheets, but I thought I can extend a class.


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how to make XSP to extend the abstract class?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

suppose, I've many methods which I want to share between XSP pages. I put
them all in the abstract class, then make Java class (generated from XSP) to
extend this abstract class. How?

thanks,
Argyn

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RE: Getting parameters to SQLTransformer

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> -Original Message-
> From: Luca Morandini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 4:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Getting parameters to SQLTransformer
> What I would suggest is the use of stored procedures, with an 
> XSL building
> the statement, hence:

can you explain what do you mean in more details?

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RE: SQLTransformer, multiple execute-query siblings?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> I presume there is scope for making a Transformer, which would make
> hierarchycal rowsets from "flat" ones... anyone interested ?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -
>Luca Morandini
>GIS Consultant
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I'm interested to have that functionality in the transformer, but since XSP
supports it, I'm ok with XSP/ESQL.

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RE: SQLTransformer, multiple execute-query siblings?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

suppose you want to have this xml:




  

..
  
  

..
  


.




here, P-parent, c1, c2 - children
> -Original Message-
> From: Luca Morandini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:49 PM
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> Subject: RE: SQLTransformer, multiple execute-query siblings?
> 
> 
> Jens,
> 
> I beg your pardon, but, what's the use of having such nested queries ?
> 

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RE: SQLTransformer, multiple execute-query siblings?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Your example shows that it's possible to have one nested query inside
another one. But it doesn't show that you may have sibling nested queries.

as far as I remember, you can have only one child (nested query), but that
child can have one child too and so on. you can't have this:
  http://apache.org/cocoon/SQL/2.0";>
http://apache.org/cocoon/SQL/2.0";>
 
  select id,name from department_table
 
 
  
   select id,name from employee_table where department_id =
 
  
 
 
  
   select id,name from employee_table where department_id =
 
  
 

  

> I've to correct me on this one. My short looks into the source
> were obviously not enough ...
> 
> This example is taken from
> http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/transformers/sql-transfo
rmer.html



  http://apache.org/cocoon/SQL/2.0";>
http://apache.org/cocoon/SQL/2.0";>
 
  select id,name from department_table
 
 
  
   select id,name from employee_table where department_id =
 
  
 

  



So according to the user docs this *is* possible. (Haven't testet it
though)


Regards,


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RE: SQLTransformer, multiple execute-query siblings?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

maybe I'm wrong, but it didn't look very difficult to me at that time (two
months ago). The issue was with stack of queries: whenever the new
 tag was ended, transformer would go up in the stack.
So, if there was a second nested query, then the tranformer would mess up
the stack. I don't remember all the details though

> -Original Message-
> From: Jens Lorenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 10:40 AM
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> Subject: Re: SQLTransformer, multiple execute-query siblings?
> 
> The problem is, that it's not that easy. Transformer gets fed
> SAX events and according to this spits out SAX events.
> 
> If you want to reference the produced output you would have to
> remember the output somehow which would make this beast far
> more complex than it already is.
> 
> If you really wanna do this, go ahead, but expect some work
> ahead (SQLTransformer is kind of an orphaned anyway).
> Otherwise go for XSP/ESQL.

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RE: SQLTransformer, multiple execute-query siblings?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

it doesn't support two nested queries on the same level of nesting, as far
as I remember after looking at C2.0.1 sources. I don't think it's fixed.

Workaround is:
1. modify source codes
2. use XSP

I use XSP with ESQL

> Can someone confirm this, and is there a workaround other 
> than chaining 
> multiple SQLTransformers with XSLT to generate sub-queries?

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RE: ArrayIndexOutOfBound exception under heavy load

[Argyn Kuketayev]

good point! I forgot to put it before WebLogic.jar


> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 12:35 PM
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> Subject: RE: ArrayIndexOutOfBound exception under heavy load
> 
> 
> > From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > can it be this?
> 
> Are you sure that this is A Good Thing (tm) to use WebLogic's 
> Xalan? :-)

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RE: ArrayIndexOutOfBound exception under heavy load

[Argyn Kuketayev]

nks(ChunkUtils.java:165)
at weblogic.servlet.internal.ChunkOutput.flush(ChunkOutput.java:248)
at
weblogic.servlet.internal.ChunkOutputWrapper.flush(ChunkOutputWrapper.java:1
52)
at
weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletOutputStreamImpl.flush(ServletOutputStreamI
mpl.java:119)
at
org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet.service(CocoonServlet.java:1177)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
at
weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java
:265)
at
weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java
:200)
at
weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext.invokeServlet(WebAppServletCo
ntext.java:2495)
at
weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletRequestImpl.execute(ServletRequestImpl.java
:2204)
at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.execute(ExecuteThread.java:139)
at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:120)

> -Original Message-
> From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 12:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ArrayIndexOutOfBound exception under heavy load
> 
> 
> > From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > When I load test my document generation under Cocoon it throws me
> this:
> > 
> > java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException
> > at
> >
> org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.run(TransformerIm
> pl.java:32
> 31)
> > at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
> > 
> 
> Xalan (IMHO) has nasty error logging. This could be re-thrown 
> exception,
> and you original stacktrace might be lost.
> 
> See/hack TransformerImpl.java:3231.
> 
> Vadim

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RE: XSLT processor with different options

[Argyn Kuketayev]

there's no "component" element in cocoon.xconf coming with C2.0.3 from CVS.


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> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:16 PM
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> Subject: RE: XSLT processor with different options
> __For Cocoon 2.0.3 Only__:
> 
> 
> Add one more xslt processor to cocoon.xconf, but give him 
> another role:
> 
>   
> role="org.apache.cocoon.components.xslt.XSLTProcessor/NotIncremental"
> class="org.apache.cocoon.components.xslt.XSLTProcessorImpl">
>   
>
> 
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XSLT processor with different options

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I found that PDF is faster with XSLT XALAN processor when 
 

Can I have the same XSLT processor with fifferent options for different
pipelimes?

Argyn

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FYI: performance tests

[Argyn Kuketayev]

We are playing with Cocoon's performance tests. Here's some results, if u r
interested.

We run everything on my dual Pentium III, 1.4 Ghz, 2Gb RAM. Cocoon 2.0.3,
WebLogic 6.1sp2, under Sun jdk1.3.1 hotspot.

I'm generating a PDF document in three steps: generation XSP+ESQL,
transformation XSL-FO, serialization to PDF with FOP serializer.

1. I've read here that Saxon is faster than the default transformer. I
changed a transformer to Saxon, I didn't notice any increase in performance
running one concurrent user.
Time to generate PDF is: 3.1 sec, size 19Kb, 13 pages.
XSP+ESQL serialized into XML takes 1.2 secs, size 55Kb
XSL-FO takes 1.6 secs, size 103Kb

2. Load test. We run the script on other PC over 100Mbps network. It logs on
100 concurrent users, they launch the same PDF report several times. 
Average time to generate the same PDF report is ~41 secs.

3. Sun JDK 1.3.1 in classic VM runs at least 2 times slower.

4. JRockit runs Cocoon faster with a single user, we didn't test it yet with
multiple users. Also, JRockit is unpredicatble, sometime it's very fast,
then gets slower.
Time to generate PDF is: 2.6 sec, size 19Kb, 13 pages.
XSP+ESQL serialized into XML takes 1 secs, size 55Kb
XSL-FO takes 1.4 secs, size 103Kb

5. Instead of PDF, I used fo2html from www.renderex.com to generate HTML
files (size 72Kb). The same document takes 1.9 secs to generate with both
Sun JVM and JRockit.

6. We have "old" code to make PDF files, it uses rootriver component. It
imperatively creates PDF files. In the same load test it was able to
generate a document in avg 21 secs, twice faster than with Cocoon.

Argyn

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RE: FOP serializer is 4-5 times slower in C2.0.3 than from command line

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: FOP serializer is 4-5 times slower in C2.0.3 than from
> command line
> 
> 
> You call Cocoon as a servlet using CocoonServlet, right?

right, CocoonServlet, pipeline and so on

> If so, try to write your own little FOP/PDF servlet that 
> calls the FOP library rather than the cocoon one.
> Curious about what kind of performance you get then...

Why do u think it will make a difference? Do u know what's a problem with
FOP under Cocoon?

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RE: FOP serializer is 4-5 times slower in C2.0.3 than from command li ne

[Argyn Kuketayev]

configuration of my workstation is
Win2k Pro, WLS6.1 SP2, 
command line is .\bin\java -classic -ms512m -mx1024m ...

Dual Pentium 1.4Ghz, 2GB Ram

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FOP serializer is 4-5 times slower in C2.0.3 than from command line

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I've a pipeline with 
1 XSP (generates content) - 1.7 seconds
2 XSL (transforms it to XSL-FO) - 2.7
3. FOP (serializes into PDF) - 14.3

I measured time by terminating each step with xml serializer to see the
ouput in a browser.

My concern is the last step. When I ran FOP 0.20.3 from the command-line, it
takes me 2.5 seconds to ouput the PDF from xsl-fo file, and 2.8 seconds from
xml file with xsl stylesheet. I used the xml file from step 1, xsl-fo file
from step 2, and the same xslt stylesheets as in Cocoon.

So, PDF generation from Cocoon with FOP takes more time than from
command-line. I'm in trouble, my friends. I may end-up spending this
week-end to figure out what's going on, and would appreciate any tips.

thanks a lot,
Argyn

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RE: What does really do?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Error handling might be different for different pipelines, I guess

> -Original Message-
> From: Per Kreipke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:56 AM
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> Subject: RE: What does  really do?

> Sure, one pipeline can be hidden but what other reasons exist 
> for separating
> into multiple pipelines? [Note: Volker's example didn't 
> specify an internal
> pipeline]

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RE: cocoon.war HEAD under Tomcat 4.1.3

[Argyn Kuketayev]

looks like a Parser problem. Jaxp/crimson vs xerces


> root cause 
> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError

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RE: cocoon2.1 on WebLogic6.1 sp2

[Argyn Kuketayev]

here are the patches Vadim recommended me to install:
CR064650, CR064449, CR065213, CR064391

I managed to make Cocoon work even without these patches, as Vadim advised
me , I had to remove all dots from jar file names, and all manifest.mf files
from these jars.

I didn't perform step 3) and 4) as in the document you refer to.

Also, I found one strange thing: if I put two class names in load-class
parameter of web.xml for Cocoon, then somehow the whitespace between them is
not recognized! I suspect that it's the impact of puiting
xercerImpl-2.0.0.jar in the beginning of the classpath. jBoss worked well,
and iPlanet and WLS couldn't handle two jdbc driver class names in
"load-class". I don't have time to address this issue right now, so I simply
changed force-load method in CocoonServlet to hardcode the loading. I'll
return to the problem later.

> -----Original Message-
> From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:30 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: cocoon2.1 on WebLogic6.1 sp2
> 
> 
> you need to apply four patches to WLS
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Helena Ginzburg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:46 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: cocoon2.1 on WebLogic6.1 sp2
> > 
> > 
> >  Hi all,
> >  
> > I have an installation problem with latest version of cocoon 
> > on WebLogic6.1
> > sp2. 
> > Could you please help me?
> > 
> > 
> > I am doing as the following (all taken from a list on
> >  
> http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-users@xml.apache.org/msg05228.html
> > 
> > I am adding a below code  in cocoon.xconf file
> > 
> >   >  class="org.apache.cocoon.components.xslt.XSLTProcessorImpl"
> >  logger="root.xslt">  > value="true"/>  >  name="transformer-factory"
> >  value="org.apache.xalan.processor.TransformerFactoryImpl"/>
> >   
> > 
> >  Than I must add in cocoon.roles file.
> > 
> >   >  shorthand="xslt-processor"
> >  
> default-class="org.apache.cocoon.components.xslt.XSLTProcessorImpl"/>
> > 
> > Without adding  this code to  cocoon.roles file, I receive
> > ClassCastException.
> >  
> > If this code was added  cocoon first page is working 
> > properly,but samples
> > page are still empty. 
> > 
> >  I deployed cocoon on tomcat4.3. This is work properly.
> >  I checked tomcat  and WebLogic logs. They are the same(looks 
> > identical).
> >  WebLogic logs don't contain errors  or problems.
> > 
> > Please advise what should I do to make cocoon working?
> > 
> > Any help or ideas would be appreciated very much.
> >  
> >  Thank you in advance
> >  Helena.
> > 
> > 
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RE: cocoon2.1 on WebLogic6.1 sp2

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you need to apply four patches to WLS

> -Original Message-
> From: Helena Ginzburg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: cocoon2.1 on WebLogic6.1 sp2
> 
> 
>  Hi all,
>  
> I have an installation problem with latest version of cocoon 
> on WebLogic6.1
> sp2. 
> Could you please help me?
> 
> 
> I am doing as the following (all taken from a list on
>  http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-users@xml.apache.org/msg05228.html
> 
> I am adding a below code  in cocoon.xconf file
> 
>class="org.apache.cocoon.components.xslt.XSLTProcessorImpl"
>  logger="root.xslt">  value="true"/>   name="transformer-factory"
>  value="org.apache.xalan.processor.TransformerFactoryImpl"/>
>   
> 
>  Than I must add in cocoon.roles file.
> 
>shorthand="xslt-processor"
>  default-class="org.apache.cocoon.components.xslt.XSLTProcessorImpl"/>
> 
> Without adding  this code to  cocoon.roles file, I receive
> ClassCastException.
>  
> If this code was added  cocoon first page is working 
> properly,but samples
> page are still empty. 
> 
>  I deployed cocoon on tomcat4.3. This is work properly.
>  I checked tomcat  and WebLogic logs. They are the same(looks 
> identical).
>  WebLogic logs don't contain errors  or problems.
> 
> Please advise what should I do to make cocoon working?
> 
> Any help or ideas would be appreciated very much.
>  
>  Thank you in advance
>  Helena.
> 
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RE: set-content-length for FOP Serializer

[Argyn Kuketayev]

So, it doesn't cure IE and PDF plug-in problem?



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> Subject: RE: set-content-length for FOP Serializer
> 
> 
> > From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > It was announced that c2.0.2 has new parameter for FOPSerializer
> > "set-content-length".
> > 
> > Where to set it and does it deal with IE issue of not 
> showing properly
> PDF
> > files?
>  
> According to FOPSerializer.java (2.0.3-dev) it's true by default:
> 
> this.setContentLength =
> conf.getChild("set-content-length").getValueAsBoolean(true);
> 
> 
> Vadim
> 
> 
> > Argyn
> 
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set-content-length for FOP Serializer

[Argyn Kuketayev]

It was announced that c2.0.2 has new parameter for FOPSerializer
"set-content-length".

Where to set it and does it deal with IE issue of not showing properly PDF
files?

Argyn

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RE: We need a detailed comparison with Struts (XML/REST integration?)

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> How about using these (struts, enhydra, etc.) as XML-based 
> back-ends to a 
> Cocoon presentation front-end?

I wouldn't say that struts is XML based. Its configuration is stored in XML,
the rest is pure Javabeans.

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RE: Cocoon article on JDJ

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> Something we have noticed is the lack of Cocoon presentations at
> conferences. We have submitted 3 for the coming ApacheCon but we have
> noticed that we seem to be the only people submitting 
> anything. Is this the
> case?

I was going to write an article this year on Cocoon. Nobody (whom I sent
proposals) seemed interested so far :)

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RE: C2.0.1 ESQL/XSP + UTF-8 encoded Japanese characters in Oracle

[Argyn Kuketayev]

as a workaround, I wrote a logicsheet to convert wrong Strings into right
one. So, I call it everytime when access the String columns. Apparently, it
slows down the processing, and I have large amounts of data for reporting.
Megabytes, actually.

> -Original Message-
> From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 6:14 PM
> To: Cocoon-Users (E-mail)
> Subject: C2.0.1 ESQL/XSP + UTF-8 encoded Japanese characters in Oracle
> 
> 
> Here's my problem:
> 
> I use esql tags inside XSP to generate XML from the Oracle 
> database with
> UTF-8 encoding. English characters work fine.
> 
> Then comes the issue with Japanese characters:
> 1. every Chinese or Japanese character is encoded in 3 bytes 
> in UTF-8, and
> stored in the varchar2 column.
> 2. when I use esql logicsheets to make XML file from Oracle, 
> the XSP is
> converted into Java file. inside Java I can see that it uses 
> getString()
> method of ReslutSet object.
> Unfortunately, getString() returns a String object with three 
> characters per
> every chinese character. What happens is that Oracle jdbc 
> driver makes one
> character for every byte in the database. So, the character 
> has empty higher
> byte, and lower byte is one of the bytes of UTF-8 
> representation of chinese
> character.
> Then Cocoon gets the incorrect String, it puts &#NMUBER; for every
> character, so XML has totally wrong strings.
> 
> I couldn't make Oracle to return correct String 
> representation of data in
> the database. Changing the regional settings is not the option.
> 
> Now, our Web application (without cocoon) works fine! How come? 
> I'll explain:
> getString() returns WRONG string with three characters per 
> one chinese. Then
> JSP page uses out.print() method. This method thinks "I'm 
> English, I see
> three characters, I have to convert them into English. I'll 
> simply cut upper
> bytes". So, print throws just three bytes, and they are RIGHT 
> bytes! Then
> browser sees that the page is UTF-8 encoded, takes three 
> bytes, and shows
> them as correct ONE chinese character.
> 
> The question is: what shall I do?
> 
> 1. If I somehow make getString() to return me correct String, 
> then seemingly
> my JSPs will break - they will try to print correct character 
> by cutting the
> upper byte.
> 
> 2. If I change Cocoon to use something similar to out.print() 
> from JSP, then
> it may break when somebody changes the regional settings (?).
> 
> Argyn
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C2.0.1 ESQL/XSP + UTF-8 encoded Japanese characters in Oracle

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Here's my problem:

I use esql tags inside XSP to generate XML from the Oracle database with
UTF-8 encoding. English characters work fine.

Then comes the issue with Japanese characters:
1. every Chinese or Japanese character is encoded in 3 bytes in UTF-8, and
stored in the varchar2 column.
2. when I use esql logicsheets to make XML file from Oracle, the XSP is
converted into Java file. inside Java I can see that it uses getString()
method of ReslutSet object.
Unfortunately, getString() returns a String object with three characters per
every chinese character. What happens is that Oracle jdbc driver makes one
character for every byte in the database. So, the character has empty higher
byte, and lower byte is one of the bytes of UTF-8 representation of chinese
character.
Then Cocoon gets the incorrect String, it puts &#NMUBER; for every
character, so XML has totally wrong strings.

I couldn't make Oracle to return correct String representation of data in
the database. Changing the regional settings is not the option.

Now, our Web application (without cocoon) works fine! How come? 
I'll explain:
getString() returns WRONG string with three characters per one chinese. Then
JSP page uses out.print() method. This method thinks "I'm English, I see
three characters, I have to convert them into English. I'll simply cut upper
bytes". So, print throws just three bytes, and they are RIGHT bytes! Then
browser sees that the page is UTF-8 encoded, takes three bytes, and shows
them as correct ONE chinese character.

The question is: what shall I do?

1. If I somehow make getString() to return me correct String, then seemingly
my JSPs will break - they will try to print correct character by cutting the
upper byte.

2. If I change Cocoon to use something similar to out.print() from JSP, then
it may break when somebody changes the regional settings (?).

Argyn


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iPlanet iAS 6.5 + C2.0.3 - comments/CR in init-params of servlet

[Argyn Kuketayev]

It seems that when I deploy webapp in iPlanet 6.5, it doesn't handle
properly the init-parameters of the servlet if they have comments or new
lines.

did anybody see this? 

particularly, load-class init parameter in web.xml of CocoonServlet has
comments and new lines, so it's not read properly. When I removed comments
and new lines, it works. 

Argyn
I wonder how Sun manages to sell iPlanet for money?

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RE: C2.0.3 Deployment on iPlanet 6.5 tips

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> I found that iAS 6.x ignores contents my WEB-INF/lib,
> so I have to put all cocoon/other libs in iAS's classpath
> in registry
> 
> Artur...

iAS behaves very strangely. It expands all jars from WEB-INF folder when
webapp is deployed. I can see all classes from there.

Initially, it iAS didn't see anything from there. So, I put everything in
iAS classpath. Cocoon was working.

Then I removed all classes from the classpath, and left only parsers in iAS
classpath. It was still working. So, now I'm not sure how it works,
honestly.

Another problem I just encountered: ESQL samples don't work at all. So, I
put hardcoded class loading inside CocoonServlet.forceLoad() method of
hsqldb driver. ESQL sample works now. I see that there's a garbage in
"load-class" parameter when it's read from web.xml file. 

Argyn

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RE: C2.0.3 Deployment on iPlanet 6.5 tips

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I'm not ready for that. my iPlanet port is not stable yet.

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> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:38 PM
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> Subject: RE: C2.0.3 Deployment on iPlanet 6.5 tips
> 
> 
> > From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > Finally, it seems that I made it work on iPlanet 6.5 iAS (not Web
> server).
> 
> Do you want to form a patch from these notes to the Cocoon's install
> doc?
> 
> Vadim
>  
> > iPlanet comes with jaxp.jar and parser.jar files in its classpath,
> which are
> > located in \ias6\ias\classes\java\jaxp folder. 
> I thought
> that I
> > can remove these files, but it seems that iPlanet is configured (or
> > hardcoded) somehow, that it tries to load the particular Parser from
> those
> > jars. I didn't figure out yet how to change that in order to make it
> work
> > with any parser in the classpath. The parser they use is 
> from Sun, it
> > doesn't implement some methods, which breakes Cocoon with
> NoSuchMethodError
> > run-time error.
> > 
> > So, I put xercesXXX.jar and xml-apis.jar from Cocoon's 
> WEB-INF/lib in
> the
> > beginning of the classpath. The iPlanet classpath is edited by
> kregedit
> > utility, the kay is "\SOFTWARE\iPlanet\Application
> > Server\6.5\Java\ClassPath". The above two jars must come before
> jaxp.jar and
> > parser.jar, indeed.
> > 
> > Then I built the cocoon.war file. In addition to web.xml, iPlanet
> needs
> > ias-web.xml file in WEB-INF folder. You have to create it yourself,
> here's
> > the sample:
> >  START ias-web.xml 
> > 
> > 
> >  > Application 1.0//EN'
> > 'http://developer.iplanet.com/appserver/dtds/IASWebApp_1_0.dtd'>
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Cocoon2
> > {F3F92B34-D2D9-4FFE-A961-CC25A15FC3FA}
> > 
> >   false
> >   false
> >   10
> >   false
> > 
> >   
> >   
> > lite
> > dsync-distributed
> > last-access
> > false
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >  END ias-web.xml 
> > 
> > The most interesting thing is  element. iPlanet requires GUID
> for
> > every servlet to be run. There's a utility called "kguidgen", it
> generates
> > GUID for you.
> > 
> > As for the rest of the elements, I've no clue about them :) 
> I suspect
> they
> > are not required at all.
> > 
> > To deploy Cocoon, I used the following command:
> > iasdeploy deploymodule -verbose cocoon.war
> > 
> > If it's successfully deployed, then you can launch it with
> > http://localhost/NASApp/cocoon/
> > 
> > In my configuration I have both iPlanet Web Server and App Server
> installed.
> > So, "NASApp" is the context for apps deployed on App server.
> > 
> > Apparently the war file name becomes the servlet's context if you
> deploy it
> > as a module. You can also deploy Cocoon as an application. 
> To do that
> you
> > simply package it in "ear" file. Here's nothing fancy, no vendor
> specific
> > files, just ordinary "application.xml" in META-INF.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > Argyn
> > 
> > I'm not an expert in iPlanet (YET), so excuse inaccuracies, if any.
> > 
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RE: C2.0.3 - Invalid URL: Driver type not specified

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> 
> > What do you have for your dburl? It should be something like:
> > 
> > jdbc:oracle:thin:@site:port:database
> > 
> > ... depending on which Oracle driver you are using.
> 
> Also, if driver is in WEB-INF/lib, it must have jar 
> extension, not zip.
> 
> Vadim
> 

I'm pretty sure that web.xml and cocoon.xconf are Ok, because I didn't
change them. I ported the whole thing from Tomcat to iPlanet. the same war
works fine with Tomcat 4.0.1, as well as esql example from cocoon.

On iPlanet 6.5 that error is thrown for both esql sample of Cocoon and my
custom xsps with Oracle database.

I suspect that something's wrong with "load-class" parameter in web.xml.
classes12.zip is in iPlanet's classpath, and my other application works with
Oracle driver fine.

Argyn

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C2.0.3 - Invalid URL: Driver type not specified

[Argyn Kuketayev]

When I try to run ESQL examples or my own code with C2.0.3 I get this:

The org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap notifies that
org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException says:

Exception in ServerPagesGenerator.generate() 

More precisely:

org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Exception in
ServerPagesGenerator.generate(): java.lang.RuntimeException: Could not get
the datasource java.sql.SQLException: Invalid URL: Driver type not specified


What might be the cause?

I configured web.xml. cocoon.xconf for Oracle driver.

Argyn

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RE: Web Site Construction Patterns?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

check www.theserverside.com

they have many patterns there.

unfortunately, they are biased towards J2EE too heavily. their Web site is
build with EJBs, btw, you can feel that with it performance :)



> -Original Message-
> From: daniel robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Web Site Construction Patterns?
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> I hope this is the right place for this topic,  Please let me know if
> not.
> 
> I have just completed a basic framework (high-level) for a 
> Website that
> I am working on.  I am an experienced programmer but this is the first
> time that I have done any extensive work in 
> HTML/XML/XSLT/Servelets.  I
> am impressed by Cocoon and it seems like a great product to 
> be building
> my site with.
> 
> It occurs to me as I work on this project that there everything I am
> doing has been done before, lots of times.  Of course that is what
> Cocoon is addressing - at different levels.  I am finding 
> myself haviing
> to make many decisions as I move ahead.  Since I am a 
> complete Newbie I
> have little or no reference point for making these decisions. 
>  What I'm
> wondering is whether or not Patterns could help?
> 
> Let me give an example.  I have to have user
> sessions/authentication/permissions/profiles.  Nothing new 
> here.  I have
> even done extensive work on this in other realms.  I am 
> familiar with a
> number of Patterns for accomplishing this in my experience and I can
> plow ahead and see what works.  I know, for example, that there is
> extensive ongoing work within the Cocoon project (Sunshine?) 
> that works
> on this.  So from my experience so far with Cocoon what it 
> will mean is
> that I have to jump into a description of the features that 
> are offered
> and a descirption of how it works.  Then I will have to make 
> a decision
> to use it or not based on what I understand my requirements 
> to be.  What
> I would really like would be a mid to high level collection 
> of Patterns
> for dealing with these features and then a mapping of those Patterns
> onto what Cocoon offers and doesn't offer.
> 
> My premise is that if I could access this knowledge base it would make
> my work easier as well as serving as a guidepost for Cocoon 
> itself.  (We
> have implemented parts of x Pattern for the following reasons)
> 
> Does anyone know of an effort to capture these sorts of 
> "Patterns of Web
> Development" in an organized manner?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> 
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C2.0.3 Deployment on iPlanet 6.5 tips

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Finally, it seems that I made it work on iPlanet 6.5 iAS (not Web server).

iPlanet comes with jaxp.jar and parser.jar files in its classpath, which are
located in \ias6\ias\classes\java\jaxp folder. I thought that I
can remove these files, but it seems that iPlanet is configured (or
hardcoded) somehow, that it tries to load the particular Parser from those
jars. I didn't figure out yet how to change that in order to make it work
with any parser in the classpath. The parser they use is from Sun, it
doesn't implement some methods, which breakes Cocoon with NoSuchMethodError
run-time error.

So, I put xercesXXX.jar and xml-apis.jar from Cocoon's WEB-INF/lib in the
beginning of the classpath. The iPlanet classpath is edited by kregedit
utility, the kay is "\SOFTWARE\iPlanet\Application
Server\6.5\Java\ClassPath". The above two jars must come before jaxp.jar and
parser.jar, indeed.

Then I built the cocoon.war file. In addition to web.xml, iPlanet needs
ias-web.xml file in WEB-INF folder. You have to create it yourself, here's
the sample:
 START ias-web.xml 


http://developer.iplanet.com/appserver/dtds/IASWebApp_1_0.dtd'>


  
Cocoon2
{F3F92B34-D2D9-4FFE-A961-CC25A15FC3FA}

  false
  false
  10
  false

  
  
lite
dsync-distributed
last-access
false



  

 END ias-web.xml 

The most interesting thing is  element. iPlanet requires GUID for
every servlet to be run. There's a utility called "kguidgen", it generates
GUID for you.

As for the rest of the elements, I've no clue about them :) I suspect they
are not required at all.

To deploy Cocoon, I used the following command:
iasdeploy deploymodule -verbose cocoon.war

If it's successfully deployed, then you can launch it with
http://localhost/NASApp/cocoon/

In my configuration I have both iPlanet Web Server and App Server installed.
So, "NASApp" is the context for apps deployed on App server.

Apparently the war file name becomes the servlet's context if you deploy it
as a module. You can also deploy Cocoon as an application. To do that you
simply package it in "ear" file. Here's nothing fancy, no vendor specific
files, just ordinary "application.xml" in META-INF.

thanks,
Argyn

I'm not an expert in iPlanet (YET), so excuse inaccuracies, if any.

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Cocoon and container's parsers

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Some containers come with default parser which are not compatible with
Cocoon. So, Cocoon requires to change container's settings, e.g. remove
"old" parsers from classpath and replace them with xerces etc.

Would it be good to allow Cocoon use its own parser? So that in the
classpath we'll have the "old" parser, but Cocoon will use its own. This way
other application will be Ok, even if they need a specific parser in the
classpath which is incompatible with Cocoon.

thanks
Argyn

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iPlanet 6.5 + C2.0.1 problem with init() of the servlet

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I'm trying to deploy Cocoon.war on iPlanet 6.5 server.

So far, it seems that iPlanet doesn't see jars in WEB-INF/lib. I expanded
them all and put into a folder, which is in the iPlanet classpath.
I added ias-web.xml file with GUID for the servlet. Now, when I try to call
cocoon, I see this in the log:

info: --
info: Cocoon2-iAS: init
info: --
error: Exception: SERVLET-execution_failed: Error in executing servlet
Cocoon2-i
AS: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError
error: APPLOGIC-caught_exception: Caught Exception:
java.lang.ClassCastException: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError
at
com.netscape.server.servlet.servletrunner.ServletRunner.reportError(U
nknown Source)
at
com.netscape.server.servlet.servletrunner.ServletRunner.execute(Unkno
wn Source)
at com.kivasoft.applogic.AppLogic.execute(Unknown Source)
at com.kivasoft.applogic.AppLogic.execute(Unknown Source)
at com.kivasoft.thread.ThreadBasic.run(Native Method)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

I also tried to expand all fjars and put into WEB-INF/classes folder. It
didn't work. Neither deploying .ear file helped.

Any help appreciated

Argyn
iPlanet sucks big time

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RE: iPlanet 6.5 + Cocoon - is there still problem with serv;et container?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> Don't know exactly what problem you're talking about but

I mean this: 
"iPlanet Web Server 4.x provides the servlet 2.2 API (javax.servlet.*
classes), but the servlet engine doesn't handle servlet contexts. This means
there is no classloader built with the contents of WEB-INF/classes and
WEB-INF/lib and that resolution of context resources (using
ServletContext.getResource()) doesn't give the expected results." 

cited from http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/installing/index.html

> I have Cocoon 2.0.2 (with Saxon 6.5.2, jexen) running under iAS 6.5
> on w2k and Sol8. I don't remember running into any problems.

nice to hear it. many thanks.

unfortunately, C2 installation document doesn't say anything about iPlanet
6.5 :(
is the following statement still true? 

"To be able to run on such non-compliant engines, Cocoon provides a
bootstrap servlet in org.apache.cocoon.BootstrapServletthat handles all the
servlet context related behaviours needed for proper functioning. " from the
above doc.


thanks,
Argyn

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iPlanet 6.5 + Cocoon - is there still problem with serv;et container?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I've read that there was an issue with iPlanet and Cocoon. So, Cocoon had a
special servlet to fix iPlanet's weird behaviour.

Does that same problem persist for iPlanet 6.5 and Cocoon 2.0.x? I plan to
use Coconn 2.0.1 or 2.0.3.

Thanks,
Argyn

(iPlanet sucks)

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what's up with the Cocoon book? were reviewer found?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

were reviewer found?

thanks
Argyn

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RE: iPlanet + Cocoon: did anybody try?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> I'm currently porting our stuff to Cocoon 2.0.2
> which will run on iPlanet 6.5.

can you post your installation documents for Cocoon 2.0.2 and iPlanet 6.5?

Thanks,
Argyn

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iPlanet + Cocoon: did anybody try?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I must test my reporting module written with Cocoon on jBoss/Tomcat,
iPlanet, IBM WAS, BEA WLS.

My main concern is iPlanet, since I'm more or less confident about others.
Did any body deploy real-life Cocoon apps in iPlanet 6.5? Need resources.

Argyn

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is there an issue with international characters in XSP (C2.0.1)?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I'm retrieving UTF-8 data from Oracle table. I put UTF-8 encoding in my XSP
page. then I use XML-serializer to see what's coming out. I have some
chinese words in the varchar2 field, I see that they are "‘" and so on
in the XML file produced, which is apparently wrong. Any ideas?

Argyn

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if XSL templates includes another one, then updating the second one will not be detected by Cocoon

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I'm debugging XSL templates. So, when I change the included template, but
don't change the template which includes it, then Cocoon will not detect it,
and return me the old results.

I simply re-save the including template. Is there any other way?

thanks,
Argyn

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RE: MS Access Driver!!!

[Argyn Kuketayev]

show the exceptions. maybe u didn't configure ODBC data source.

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 6:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: MS Access Driver!!!
> 
> 
> Thanks Perry, but I just forgotten to mention "sun." before the 
> jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver. If the driver is correct, then I 
> may be doing 
> something wrong in the cocoon.xconf file ...
> Any further help please...
> 
> Thanking you.
> 
> 
> >From: "Faulkner, Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >Subject: RE: MS Access Driver!!!
> >Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:08:59 +1000
> >
> >Hi Muhammad,
> >
> >That should be: sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver
> >
> >Perry
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Muhammad Irfan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2002 8:03
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> >Subject: MS Access Driver!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >Dear All,
> >
> >Does any one knows the name os MS Access driver and where it 
> is located??
> >   I have inserted "jdbc:odbc:JdbcOdbcDriver" within the 
> WEB_INF/web.xml 
> >file
> >
> >but getting exceptions...
> >
> >   Thanking you for your kind help.
> >
> >Irfan.
> >
> >
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RE: xml output from sql query

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I use xml-serializer when want to debug the xml between components of
pipeline

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> 
> 
> 
> Dear All,
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> I am trying to execute SQL query and want to get the 
> output/display in xml. 
> I have written my SQL query in a xml file according to the 
> docs/samples/sql/sql-page but getting the exptions
>   This may be beause my sitemap entries are not correct or 
> the way I reffer 
> to the URL is invalid. I will be grateful if someone can 
> assist me with this 
> procedure.
> 
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> 
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RE: Putting the esql:get-ascii inside CDATA block

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I found a problem: it was my misunderstanding of ESQL tags.

thans,
Argyn

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RE: C2.0.1 - esql stored proc problem

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Here's the latest source. 

thanx,

Argyn




test-call.xsp
Description: Binary data

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RE: C2.0.1 - esql stored proc problem

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Does Cocoon 2.0.1 work with stored prcedures?

more precisely, 

I've this code in XSP:
==
   
 argyn

 
  {call PKG_STUDENT.STUD_QUAL_STATUS(
  '2',
  '333',
  ,
  ,
  )}
 

 
   
 
   
 


   
=

I only need to get the string from 3rd (OUT) parameter.

I see that ESQL generates the following code:

==
  _esql_query = new EsqlQuery((ResultSet) 

(_esql_query.getCallableStatement().getString(3)
)
  );
{
  if (_esql_query.hasResultSet()) {
do {
  _esql_query.getResultRows();

  if (_esql_query.nextRow()) {

  } else {

  }
  _esql_query.getResultSet().close();

} while(_esql_query.getMoreResults());
  } else {

  }
}
===


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RE: C2.0.1 - esql stored proc problem

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> 
> For some reason ESQL does not obtain a CallableStatement. The 
> java and the xsp
> would help to debug that.


The source is way too long, sorry.

I have a stored procedure wich returns the results in OUT parameters. I
failed to call it from XSP with ESQL.

I NEED HELP. I needa working example. Would appreciate any assistance.

thanks,
Argyn


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C2.0.1 - esql stored proc problem

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I have two nested queries and one nested stored procedure call. I couldn't
get resluts from the stored procedure. Cocoon says: 
org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Exception in
ServerPagesGenerator.generate(): java.lang.ClassCastException:
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement 

here's a fragment of XSP. 

  

  select ...


 
   

 
   
 


 
  {call PKG_STUDENT.STUD_QUAL_STATUS(
  ,
  ,
  ,
  ,
  )}
 
 
   
(ResultSet)

  
  

   
 




   
 
   
 
   

I couldn't get what's wrong.

Thanks
Argyn

stack trace:
=
Original exception : java.lang.ClassCastException:
oracle.jdbc.driver.OraclePreparedStatement 
at
org.apache.cocoon.components.language.markup.xsp.EsqlQuery.getCallableStatem
ent(EsqlQuery.java:194) 
at
org.apache.cocoon.www.docs.samples.xsp.studentdata_xsp.generate(C:\JBoss-2.4
.1_Tomcat-3.2.3\tomcat\work\localhost_8080%2Fargyn\cocoon-files\org/apache/c
ocoon/www/docs/samples/xsp\studentdata_xsp.java:820) 
at
org.apache.cocoon.generation.ServerPagesGenerator.generate(ServerPagesGenera
tor.java:260) 
at
org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.CachingEventPipeline.process(CachingEv
entPipeline.java:251) 
at
org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.CachingStreamPipeline.process(CachingS
treamPipeline.java:399) 
at
org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.matchN1057A(C:\JBoss-2.4.1_Tomcat-3.2.3\t
omcat\work\localhost_8080%2Fargyn\cocoon-files\org/apache/cocoon/www\sitemap
_xmap.java:7078) 
at
org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.process(C:\JBoss-2.4.1_Tomcat-3.2.3\tomca
t\work\localhost_8080%2Fargyn\cocoon-files\org/apache/cocoon/www\sitemap_xma
p.java:3056) 
at
org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.process(C:\JBoss-2.4.1_Tomcat-3.2.3\tomca
t\work\localhost_8080%2Fargyn\cocoon-files\org/apache/cocoon/www\sitemap_xma
p.java:2519) 
at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.Handler.process(Handler.java:222) 
at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.Manager.invoke(Manager.java:179) 
at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.SitemapManager.process(SitemapManager.java:154)

at org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon.process(Cocoon.java:575) 
at org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet.service(CocoonServlet.java:983) 
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853) 
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.doService(ServletWrapper.java:405) 
at org.apache.tomcat.core.Handler.service(Handler.java:287) 
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.service(ServletWrapper.java:372) 
at
org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.internalService(ContextManager.java:81
2) 
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.service(ContextManager.java:758) 
at
org.apache.tomcat.service.http.HttpConnectionHandler.processConnection(HttpC
onnectionHandler.java:213) 
at org.apache.tomcat.service.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:416)

at
org.apache.tomcat.util.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:501) 
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) 




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RE: Is anyone working on a book? Was: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world?

[Argyn Kuketayev]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672322579/qid=1017947412/sr=8-7/ref=
sr_8_67_7/102-7961812-4500953

Cocoon Developer's Handbook by Sue Spielman

the lack of dicumentation is a major obstacle on the way to a commercial
success. it also send a message to potential users that developers are not
really committed to the product. the wrong message, actually :)

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> making into
> the commerical world?
> 
> 
> Cocoon User Group:
> 
>It seems like the primary reason people feel
>Cocoon is being held back from entering 
>into prime time is documentation. 
> 
>Just out of interest, is anyone working on
>a full book for Cocoon?
> 
> Steve Punte
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RE: [C2] Sitemap questions

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> Also, if you have two pipeline elements as children of the
> pipelines element and inside each pipeline element you have a 
> match for
> e.g. index.html, then what choice does C2 make? Does it choes 
> the first
> one defined or what is its behaviour?

C2 takes first in the list

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RE: XSL question

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> As I've said
> before, you can use an action to get params from whereever 
> you need then
> expose them to sitemap (using returning map in an action). 
> Then you can
> simply set those params in your trasformer call:
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --
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can you give a complete example of how to do that?

I have a similar issue, I need to pass parameters from the request into the
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RE: Cocoon2: ESQL nested queries optimization

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> Although you have to write a bit of Java, it is minimal. 

that's what I want to avoid. I'm trying to work out the way to design a
reporting module, so that report developer don't have to mess with Java.

> The only puzzling thing is you state at the beginning that 
> you need to do
> this for each ROW in table M, so don't the F & C queries need to be
> sub-queries of the table M query anyway?

oh, yes, I'm putting sub-queries inside . so they appear to
be called for every row, that's what bothers me.

Argyn


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Cocoon2: ESQL nested queries optimization

[Argyn Kuketayev]

> I've to make a report on the table M, then for each row I 
> need to show corresponding rows from tables F and C.
> 
> Something like this:
> 
> 
>   
> 1
> 
> 
>   
> f1
>   
>   ...
> 
> 
> 
>   
> c1
>   
>   
> 
>   
> ...
> 
> 

I can make a nested query. It works fine. But it seems to me that it makes
sql select queries from C and F tables in a database for every row in M
table.

If I'd write a Java code, I'd do this:
select * from M where ...;

then I'd make two other calss like below:
select * from C where C.ID in (...)
select * from F where F.ID in (...)

where (...) a comma separated list of IDs from query to M.

I'd lke to avoid writing any Java code, because I'm developing the reporting
module, and wish users could limply define their queries in XML/XSP files.

What would you suggest to optimize querying with ESQL?

thanks,
Argyn

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RE: Cocoon2: couldn't make nested queries work for ESQL in XSP.

[Argyn Kuketayev]

Thank you, Marty!

I don't know what was the problem, I was doing almost the same. Now it
works.

Argyn

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Subject: RE: Cocoon2: couldn't make nested queries work for ESQL in XSP.


I've done a number of nested queries in C1.8.2 and as far as I know the
approach is the same in C2.  Here is an example:


   


   select Distinct Contribute.Centity_id, Contribute.role
FROM Contribute , Collection_resources where
Collection_resources.Collection_id=collectionID and
Collection_resources.rid=Contribute.rid




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select count(distinct Contribute.rid) from Contribute,
Collection_resources where centity_id= and
Contribute.rid=Collection_resources.rid and
Collection_resources.Collection_id=collectionID


  
  
 

  

  
select first_name, last_name from Centity where
centity_id=

  
  , 
 

  








  

marty

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> Subject: Cocoon2: couldn't make nested queries work for ESQL in XSP.
> 
> 
> I've to make a report on the table M, then for each row I 
> need to show corresponding rows from tables F and C.
> 
> Something like this:
> 
> 
>   
> 1
> 
> 
>   
> f1
>   
>   ...
> 
> 
> 
>   
> c1
>   
>   
> 
>   
> ...
> 
> 
> I tried this :
> 
>   l:parameter type="int"> column="id"/>
> 
> It didn't work with an exception: 
> 
> org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Exception in
> ServerPagesGenerator.generate(): java.lang.RuntimeException: 
> Error executing prepared statement: select ... from f where M_ID = ? :
> java.sql.SQLException: ORA-01722: invalid number
> 
> 
> Can somebody give me a WORKING and tested example of nested 
> queries in Cocoon2?
> 
> thanks,
> Argyn
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Cocoon2: couldn't make nested queries work for ESQL in XSP.

[Argyn Kuketayev]

I've to make a report on the table M, then for each row I need to show
corresponding rows from tables F and C.

Something like this:


  
1


  
f1
  
  ...



  
c1
  
  

  
...


I tried this :

 

It didn't work with an exception: 

org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Exception in
ServerPagesGenerator.generate(): java.lang.RuntimeException: Error executing
prepared statement: select ... from f where M_ID = ? :
java.sql.SQLException: ORA-01722: invalid number


Can somebody give me a WORKING and tested example of nested queries in
Cocoon2?

thanks,
Argyn

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