Re: 2.1? Stable Software Needed
Guys, C2-Beta2 is out today. So please try it out. If you see a problem, please send a bug report using bugzilla (http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla). I hope you know that this an open-source effort. The Development team is just a set of people who work on Cocoon on their own time because they believe in it. If want to help you are very welcome. Any patches, docs are really appreciated. Thanks, dims --- Steven Punte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too agree with Roys' statements. Stable software is everything. Otherwise Cocoon will just take it's place as some interesting RD project in the Software Halls of History while another project, another firm, deliveres a stable usable system to market that becomes the standard. Steve Punte On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 08:40:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So here I've been waiting for a stable Cocoon 2, and I find that the development has blown past a stable 2.0 release, and now is working on 2.1. Is there any hope of a stable release anytime soon? I have production services running (shakily, unfortunately) on 1.8.3, and would appreciate having a stable version of 2.x, in the (perhaps forlorn) hope that my troubles may disappear. Can anyone give me a sense of the proposed development path? Please respond directly to me as well as the list, since I cannot deal with signing up to a list that gets the kind of traffic this list does. Thanks, Roy Tennant eScholarship California Digital Library - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Davanum Srinivas, JNI-FAQ Manager http://www.jGuru.com/faq/JNI __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.1? Stable Software Needed
Steven Punte wrote: I too agree with Roys' statements. Stable software is everything. Otherwise Cocoon will just take it's place as some interesting RD project in the Software Halls of History while another project, another firm, deliveres a stable usable system to market that becomes the standard. I think you also have missed my comments on the 2.0 vs. 2.1 releases. Cocoon 2.0 beta 2 has been released--with many bug fixes, and some usability enhancements. The Cocoon 2.0 CVS repository is actively maintained. We are actively pursuing Cocoon 2.0 final. The 2.1 release has a number of experimental features that need to be tested and finalized--something that the 2.0 branch did not want to be encumbered with. You will find that Cocoon 2.0 beta 2 release a much smoother and more stable product than the beta 1 release. Steve Punte On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 08:40:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So here I've been waiting for a stable Cocoon 2, and I find that the development has blown past a stable 2.0 release, and now is working on 2.1. Is there any hope of a stable release anytime soon? I have production services running (shakily, unfortunately) on 1.8.3, and would appreciate having a stable version of 2.x, in the (perhaps forlorn) hope that my troubles may disappear. Can anyone give me a sense of the proposed development path? Please respond directly to me as well as the list, since I cannot deal with signing up to a list that gets the kind of traffic this list does. Thanks, Roy Tennant eScholarship California Digital Library - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: 2.1? Stable Software Needed
Who say the commercial software can be more stable than open source??? I think We are talking software development process. If the cocoon team agree to make it beta forever, that great.. look ICQ, always beta.. and still stable. So for next release there will be cocoon 2-2b1, 2-3b2 etc.. I think the cocoon team will agree to finish the last step, QA.. to make it more stable..or launch it.. I think this cocoon 2-0 is stable enough.. and keep update it.. like 2-0-1 etcc. I am following the PHP4 Development, since Beta 1, and In the day they launch PHP4 (amazing, after that the php.net is full traffic)..the team wrote something like this.. we launch the php4 because it is stable enought, and after 1 year, there still an update.. But several of the mailinglist member wrote: it is not stable enought etc...bla..blaa.blaa.. you can read their archive.. I think stable day is good for a milestone, for next step of development. Except we agree to used it as beta forever. :) Frans --- Carlos Araya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to point out that the cocoon team has done a good job of balancing feature requests with development release time. If what you need is stable and mature software perhaps you'd like to consider using Cocoon 1.X series and see if it does what you need (which is what I did) while features are completed and the code matures enough to meet your requirements. Or, more bluntly, use commercial software if it gives you the more stable and usable system that you're looking for. Once upon a time, Steven Punte was seen writting: I too agree with Roys' statements. Stable software is everything. Otherwise Cocoon will just take it's place as some interesting RD project in the Software Halls of History while another project, another firm, deliveres a stable usable system to market that becomes the standard. Steve Punte - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Let's Empowering Open Source __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.1? Stable Software Needed
Yah.. agree.. --- Steven Punte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too agree with Roys' statements. Stable software is everything. Otherwise Cocoon will just take it's place as some interesting RD project in the Software Halls of History while another project, another firm, deliveres a stable usable system to market that becomes the standard. Steve Punte On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 08:40:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So here I've been waiting for a stable Cocoon 2, and I find that the development has blown past a stable 2.0 release, and now is working on 2.1. Is there any hope of a stable release anytime soon? I have production services running (shakily, unfortunately) on 1.8.3, and would appreciate having a stable version of 2.x, in the (perhaps forlorn) hope that my troubles may disappear. Can anyone give me a sense of the proposed development path? Please respond directly to me as well as the list, since I cannot deal with signing up to a list that gets the kind of traffic this list does. Thanks, Roy Tennant eScholarship California Digital Library - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Let's Empowering Open Source __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.1? Stable Software Needed
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Steven Punte wrote: I too agree with Roys' statements. Stable software is everything. Otherwise Cocoon will just take it's place as some interesting RD project in the Software Halls of History while another project, another firm, deliveres a stable usable system to market that becomes the standard. Cocoon 1.8.3 is a stable and usable system, which has many real-world installations (see the website for examples). If Cocoon2 is too beta for you, you can always use 1.8.3, but you have to keep in mind that there is no backwards compatibility. If you're going to switch to Cocoon2 later on, there's bound to be some or even a lot of porting. Ulrich - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
