Re: AW: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Arnaud Vandyck]

Jorn Heid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Something about that:
> 
> There are two possibilities for such an editor:
> 
> 1. Use DHTML. This isn't cross-platform but it works (look for a
> demo of it in the  developer mailinglist from Stefano Mazzocchi) for
> ie now.
> 
> 2. Write your own Java application.  I have written an XML editor as
> an applet (so,  it's integrated with the browser)  which is like XML
> Spy (based on XML schema,  adding < shows context sensitive possible
> elements  and so  on). It's  based on  Swing. You  can use  a styled
> editor if  you want to some kind  of WYSIWYG. You can  also write an
> html editor with swing but it's very simple and not nearly WYSIWYG.

Does anybody already use Pollo? Powerful! 

Maybe  it  is  possible  to   embed  this  (java)  application  as  an
applet. It's opensource...

http://pollo.sourceforge.net/

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AW: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Jorn Heid]

Something about that:

There are two possibilities for such an editor:
1. Use DHTML. This isn't cross-platform but it works (look for a demo of it
in the developer mailinglist from Stefano Mazzocchi) for ie now.
2. Write your own Java application. I have written an XML editor as an
applet (so, it's integrated with the browser) which is like XML Spy (based
on XML schema, adding < shows context sensitive possible elements and so
on). It's based on Swing. You can use a styled editor if you want to some
kind of WYSIWYG. You can also write an html editor with swing but it's very
simple and not nearly WYSIWYG.

>From my point of view, WYSIWYG is just an illusion with HTML. The pages
differ from browser to browser, from version to version, from platform to
platform.

JOERN

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>How to create a "textarea" that has bold, italic and all the formating
>stuff?


That's not possible of course.  HTML textareas don't support
formatting.  The formatting will have to be addressed by HTML tags, unless
the textarea is replaced with an Applet or a Java Web Start Application,
like the demo rtf editor

>That (web)application is a Java application or a form web?

It's a true Java Application!  It doesn't run in a broiwser.  Check out the
Sun website, install the SDK and run the demos.  There's a nice RTF editor
you might like!!

Bert


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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Bert Van Kets]

>How to create a "textarea" that has bold, italic and all the formating
>stuff?


That's not possible of course.  HTML textareas don't support 
formatting.  The formatting will have to be addressed by HTML tags, unless 
the textarea is replaced with an Applet or a Java Web Start Application, 
like the demo rtf editor

>That (web)application is a Java application or a form web?

It's a true Java Application!  It doesn't run in a broiwser.  Check out the 
Sun website, install the SDK and run the demos.  There's a nice RTF editor 
you might like!!

Bert


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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Robert Koberg]

If you can use IE5.5+ (mswin) you can add an attribute called
contentEditable.

If you set this to yes on a tag you can edit right inline.  Example:

Placeholder paragraph text

If you are the one who creates the html, you can do it in a way that you can
roundtrip the html back to xml (client-side or server-side). Just get the
new content and stick it in a hidden field to submit to the server.

there are some other features you could take advantage of if you use ie:
- context sensitive menus
- real modal/less dialogs
- built in editing commands

- Original Message -
From: "Mauricio Souza Lima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing


> That's very interesting, and unit forces to do it is very nice too. but,
> some things i dont know:
>
> How to create a "textarea" that has bold, italic and all the formating
> stuff?
>
> That (web)application is a Java application or a form web?
>
>
> --
> Mauricio Souza Lima
> Rational Consulting
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Rua Helena, 140 / cj. 82
> São Paulo - SP - Brazil
> Fone / Direct: +55 11 3842-7138
>
> Giuseppe Di Pierri wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mauricio,
> >
> > May it is exactly what I mean.
> >
> > Let's make an example of use of the this hypothetical user friendly xml
> > editor (web)application:
> >
> > We have to create a new document, which structure is defined in a XML
Schema
> > file (better than DTD because XML is easier to treat). The application
> > presents us all possible information types (by means of input checkbox,
or
> > text or combobox etc) that, for a specific point of the document, I can
or
> > have to insert. If a new inserted element has required/optional
subelements,
> > then the application automatically generates a form containing those
> > subelement input items. Of course, all optional subelements can be left
> > empty.
> >
> > I don't mean that the user have to insert tags directly, he just fills
the
> > its values, by means of input items.
> >
> > If you know XML Spy 4.0.1, well, it makes something like this, but it is
> > also not 'cheap'.
> >
> > If I could use an application like this, well I would spare lot's
working
> > time for creating always custom applications.
> >
> > If you or everyone else intends to develop it together, well I'm ready
to
> > start.
> >
> > Thank you and wish you a nice day.
> >
> > pino
> >
>
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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Tomas Espeleta]

I was looking for a xhtml-editor and I did'nt find anything in the
open-source area...
So I'm using a HTML Webeditor (by University of catalunya...)
http://www.unica.edu/uicfreesoft/wysiwyg_web_edit/Readme_english.txt
...and Jtidy'ng the result.

Too many technologies, I know but it works and have a nice look too...
;-)

- Original Message -
From: "Mauricio Souza Lima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing


> That's very interesting, and unit forces to do it is very nice too. but,
> some things i dont know:
>
> How to create a "textarea" that has bold, italic and all the formating
> stuff?
>
> That (web)application is a Java application or a form web?
>
>
> --
> Mauricio Souza Lima
> Rational Consulting
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Rua Helena, 140 / cj. 82
> São Paulo - SP - Brazil
> Fone / Direct: +55 11 3842-7138
>
> Giuseppe Di Pierri wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mauricio,
> >
> > May it is exactly what I mean.
> >
> > Let's make an example of use of the this hypothetical user friendly xml
> > editor (web)application:
> >
> > We have to create a new document, which structure is defined in a XML
Schema
> > file (better than DTD because XML is easier to treat). The application
> > presents us all possible information types (by means of input checkbox,
or
> > text or combobox etc) that, for a specific point of the document, I can
or
> > have to insert. If a new inserted element has required/optional
subelements,
> > then the application automatically generates a form containing those
> > subelement input items. Of course, all optional subelements can be left
> > empty.
> >
> > I don't mean that the user have to insert tags directly, he just fills
the
> > its values, by means of input items.
> >
> > If you know XML Spy 4.0.1, well, it makes something like this, but it is
> > also not 'cheap'.
> >
> > If I could use an application like this, well I would spare lot's
working
> > time for creating always custom applications.
> >
> > If you or everyone else intends to develop it together, well I'm ready
to
> > start.
> >
> > Thank you and wish you a nice day.
> >
> > pino
> >
>
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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Mauricio Souza Lima]

That's very interesting, and unit forces to do it is very nice too. but,
some things i dont know:

How to create a "textarea" that has bold, italic and all the formating
stuff?

That (web)application is a Java application or a form web?


-- 
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Rational Consulting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rua Helena, 140 / cj. 82
São Paulo - SP - Brazil
Fone / Direct: +55 11 3842-7138

Giuseppe Di Pierri wrote:
> 
> Hi Mauricio,
> 
> May it is exactly what I mean.
> 
> Let's make an example of use of the this hypothetical user friendly xml
> editor (web)application:
> 
> We have to create a new document, which structure is defined in a XML Schema
> file (better than DTD because XML is easier to treat). The application
> presents us all possible information types (by means of input checkbox, or
> text or combobox etc) that, for a specific point of the document, I can or
> have to insert. If a new inserted element has required/optional subelements,
> then the application automatically generates a form containing those
> subelement input items. Of course, all optional subelements can be left
> empty.
> 
> I don't mean that the user have to insert tags directly, he just fills the
> its values, by means of input items.
> 
> If you know XML Spy 4.0.1, well, it makes something like this, but it is
> also not 'cheap'.
> 
> If I could use an application like this, well I would spare lot's working
> time for creating always custom applications.
> 
> If you or everyone else intends to develop it together, well I'm ready to
> start.
> 
> Thank you and wish you a nice day.
> 
> pino
>

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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Bert Van Kets]

Pino,
What you describe is axactly what I want to build:
A dynamic web form that lets the user pick the tags available to him at the 
the point he is at at that moment.  He is also presented with the 
optional/required attirbutes.  This lets the user create/edit an XML file 
without the hasle of the XML document tree and parsing/validating.  That's 
way to difficult for an average user who barely knows hos to switch on his 
comp ;-)

Do you mean you wish to help develop such a framework?

Bert
At 14:47 20/12/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi Mauricio,
>
>May it is exactly what I mean.
>
>Let's make an example of use of the this hypothetical user friendly xml 
>editor (web)application:
>
>We have to create a new document, which structure is defined in a XML 
>Schema file (better than DTD because XML is easier to treat). The 
>application presents us all possible information types (by means of input 
>checkbox, or text or combobox etc) that, for a specific point of the 
>document, I can or have to insert. If a new inserted element has 
>required/optional subelements, then the application automatically 
>generates a form containing those subelement input items. Of course, all 
>optional subelements can be left empty.
>
>I don't mean that the user have to insert tags directly, he just fills the 
>its values, by means of input items.
>
>If you know XML Spy 4.0.1, well, it makes something like this, but it is 
>also not 'cheap'.
>
>If I could use an application like this, well I would spare lot's working 
>time for creating always custom applications.
>
>If you or everyone else intends to develop it together, well I'm ready to 
>start.
>
>Thank you and wish you a nice day.
>
>pino


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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Giuseppe Di Pierri]

Hi Mauricio,

May it is exactly what I mean.

Let's make an example of use of the this hypothetical user friendly xml 
editor (web)application:

We have to create a new document, which structure is defined in a XML Schema 
file (better than DTD because XML is easier to treat). The application 
presents us all possible information types (by means of input checkbox, or 
text or combobox etc) that, for a specific point of the document, I can or 
have to insert. If a new inserted element has required/optional subelements, 
then the application automatically generates a form containing those 
subelement input items. Of course, all optional subelements can be left 
empty.

I don't mean that the user have to insert tags directly, he just fills the 
its values, by means of input items.

If you know XML Spy 4.0.1, well, it makes something like this, but it is 
also not 'cheap'.

If I could use an application like this, well I would spare lot's working 
time for creating always custom applications.

If you or everyone else intends to develop it together, well I'm ready to 
start.

Thank you and wish you a nice day.

pino

>From: Mauricio Souza Lima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:54:50 -0200
>
>Giuseppe Di Pierri wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > It would be very very nice also to have this (web)application to give 
>you
> > suggestions (as a simple list) about elements or attributes that may or 
>must
> > be added into the xml document (in a specific edit point) based on an 
>xsd
> > definition file (instead of checking everything at the end of 
>composition),
> > wouldn't be?.
> >
> > Cheers
> > pino
> >
>
>In my case, the editor must edit just DocBook content, and it is
>progressive supporting all the DTD, today it supports only single
>parts... And the user dont put the hand in the XML, he uses bold,
>italic, insert image, but never insert tag :)
>
>Regards...
>
>--
>Mauricio Souza Lima
>Rational Consulting
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>São Paulo - SP - Brazil
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RE: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Whalley, Anthony]

Here are a couple of examples of the sort of things already out there and
usable
if we want to achieve in a pure browser based solution.

http://xmljs.sourceforge.net

http://www.jeremie.com/Dev/XML/

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Sent: 20 December 2001 12:32
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 12:46 20/12/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi,
>It would be very very nice also to have this (web)application to give you 
>suggestions (as a simple list) about elements or attributes that may or 
>must be added into the xml document (in a specific edit point) based on an 
>xsd definition file (instead of checking everything at the end of 
>composition), wouldn't be?.
You got me there!  I have no clue on what an xsd definition file 
is.  Please explain, or direct me to a site where I can find more info 
about this.  Thanks.
I was more thinking in the line of creating an intelligent web form, backed 
by JavaScript, that only allows you to select the tags that are available 
at the specific node.  This logic can be dynamically built based on the 
DTD.  A bit of DHTML does the rest.

Does anybody have another idea, apart from the already proposed Java Web
Start?

Thanks,
Bert


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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Gregor]

> You got me there!  I have no clue on what an xsd definition file
> is.  Please explain, or direct me to a site where I can find more info
> about this.  Thanks.

An xsd definition file does basically the same as a the DTD. A schema (xsd)
is well-formed xml and allows stricter definition of content models (e.g.
data types of attributes and elements), though.
HTH
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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Mauricio Souza Lima]

Giuseppe Di Pierri wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It would be very very nice also to have this (web)application to give you
> suggestions (as a simple list) about elements or attributes that may or must
> be added into the xml document (in a specific edit point) based on an xsd
> definition file (instead of checking everything at the end of composition),
> wouldn't be?.
> 
> Cheers
> pino
> 

In my case, the editor must edit just DocBook content, and it is
progressive supporting all the DTD, today it supports only single
parts... And the user dont put the hand in the XML, he uses bold,
italic, insert image, but never insert tag :)

Regards...

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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Bert Van Kets]

At 12:46 20/12/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi,
>It would be very very nice also to have this (web)application to give you 
>suggestions (as a simple list) about elements or attributes that may or 
>must be added into the xml document (in a specific edit point) based on an 
>xsd definition file (instead of checking everything at the end of 
>composition), wouldn't be?.
You got me there!  I have no clue on what an xsd definition file 
is.  Please explain, or direct me to a site where I can find more info 
about this.  Thanks.
I was more thinking in the line of creating an intelligent web form, backed 
by JavaScript, that only allows you to select the tags that are available 
at the specific node.  This logic can be dynamically built based on the 
DTD.  A bit of DHTML does the rest.

Does anybody have another idea, apart from the already proposed Java Web Start?

Thanks,
Bert


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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Giuseppe Di Pierri]

Hi,
It would be very very nice also to have this (web)application to give you 
suggestions (as a simple list) about elements or attributes that may or must 
be added into the xml document (in a specific edit point) based on an xsd 
definition file (instead of checking everything at the end of composition), 
wouldn't be?.

Cheers
pino

>From: Mauricio Souza Lima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:37:02 -0200
>
>Thanks for the information Anton, i think it will solve many problems...
>:)
>
>"Whalley, Anthony" wrote:
> >
> > Would you consider using java web start ?
> > A browser based application distribution framework from Sun.
> >
> > http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/index.html
> >
> > It is basicly an applet on steriods that downloads to the
> > client and can then be run from the client machine when ever they 
>require.
> > It also has update features, and extended read write permissions that
> > applets do not have.
> >
> > Even if you stay with a browser based solution I think that this is a 
>great
> > idea.
> >
> > Anton
>
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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Mauricio Souza Lima]

Thanks for the information Anton, i think it will solve many problems...
:)

"Whalley, Anthony" wrote:
> 
> Would you consider using java web start ?
> A browser based application distribution framework from Sun.
> 
> http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/index.html
> 
> It is basicly an applet on steriods that downloads to the
> client and can then be run from the client machine when ever they require.
> It also has update features, and extended read write permissions that
> applets do not have.
> 
> Even if you stay with a browser based solution I think that this is a great
> idea.
> 
> Anton

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RE: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Whalley, Anthony]

Would you consider using java web start ?
A browser based application distribution framework from Sun.

http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/index.html


It is basicly an applet on steriods that downloads to the
client and can then be run from the client machine when ever they require.
It also has update features, and extended read write permissions that
applets do not have. 

Even if you stay with a browser based solution I think that this is a great
idea.

Anton
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Sent: 20 December 2001 11:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing


That's an option I considered too.  But as Mauricio already knows it's notu
 sable on my project since the editing will be done by a lot of people onv
 ery different places.  that's why I'm going the browser way.
Bert
At 08:37 20/12/2001 -0200, you wrote:
>A different approach i'm working with, is XML editing with a application
>using the WebDAV interface to edit the database that have the xml
>contents... With this, i think i get the power of an application, that
>hasn't the limits a web-form has...
>
>Tomas Espeleta wrote:
> >
> > > To complement the Cocoon framework and to give the customer access to
the
> > > site navigation and the content of his pages, I would like to add an
> > > on-line XML editor to a Cocoon project.
> > > I want to present the content of the XML file in a HTML form, so that
the
> > > owner of the site can modify, add or delete the actual textual
> > > content.  XML validation must be done on the server, but will hardly
be
> > > necessary since the structure of the XML file is managed by the
editor.
> > >
> > > Has anybody any idea if there are any tools to achieve this?
Preferably
> > in
> > > open source.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bert
> >
> > I'm actually using JTidy (http://lempinen.net/sami/jtidy/), converting>
  input
> > from form to XML fragment, and putting it into a DB...
> > I'm interested on differents approachs...
> > ;-)
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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Bert Van Kets]

That's an option I considered too.  But as Mauricio already knows it's not 
usable on my project since the editing will be done by a lot of people on 
very different places.  that's why I'm going the browser way.
Bert
At 08:37 20/12/2001 -0200, you wrote:
>A different approach i'm working with, is XML editing with a application
>using the WebDAV interface to edit the database that have the xml
>contents... With this, i think i get the power of an application, that
>hasn't the limits a web-form has...
>
>Tomas Espeleta wrote:
> >
> > > To complement the Cocoon framework and to give the customer access to the
> > > site navigation and the content of his pages, I would like to add an
> > > on-line XML editor to a Cocoon project.
> > > I want to present the content of the XML file in a HTML form, so that the
> > > owner of the site can modify, add or delete the actual textual
> > > content.  XML validation must be done on the server, but will hardly be
> > > necessary since the structure of the XML file is managed by the editor.
> > >
> > > Has anybody any idea if there are any tools to achieve this?  Preferably
> > in
> > > open source.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bert
> >
> > I'm actually using JTidy (http://lempinen.net/sami/jtidy/), converting 
> input
> > from form to XML fragment, and putting it into a DB...
> > I'm interested on differents approachs...
> > ;-)
> >
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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Mauricio Souza Lima]

Tomas Espeleta wrote:
> 
> > A different approach i'm working with, is XML editing with a application
> > using the WebDAV interface to edit the database that have the xml
> > contents... With this, i think i get the power of an application, that
> > hasn't the limits a web-form has...
> 
> Cool! How do you use web-dav? Apache+mod_dav? Which client?
> 

I use Tomcat4, it has WebDAV support.
The Client is the Explorer on windows. All the users of my site works in
it...

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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Tomas Espeleta]

> A different approach i'm working with, is XML editing with a application
> using the WebDAV interface to edit the database that have the xml
> contents... With this, i think i get the power of an application, that
> hasn't the limits a web-form has...

Cool! How do you use web-dav? Apache+mod_dav? Which client?

> Tomas Espeleta wrote:
> >
> > > To complement the Cocoon framework and to give the customer access to
the
> > > site navigation and the content of his pages, I would like to add an
> > > on-line XML editor to a Cocoon project.
> > > I want to present the content of the XML file in a HTML form, so that
the
> > > owner of the site can modify, add or delete the actual textual
> > > content.  XML validation must be done on the server, but will hardly
be
> > > necessary since the structure of the XML file is managed by the
editor.
> > >
> > > Has anybody any idea if there are any tools to achieve this?
Preferably
> > in
> > > open source.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bert
> >
> > I'm actually using JTidy (http://lempinen.net/sami/jtidy/), converting
input
> > from form to XML fragment, and putting it into a DB...
> > I'm interested on differents approachs...
> > ;-)
> >
> > - Tomas
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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Mauricio Souza Lima]

A different approach i'm working with, is XML editing with a application
using the WebDAV interface to edit the database that have the xml
contents... With this, i think i get the power of an application, that
hasn't the limits a web-form has...

Tomas Espeleta wrote:
> 
> > To complement the Cocoon framework and to give the customer access to the
> > site navigation and the content of his pages, I would like to add an
> > on-line XML editor to a Cocoon project.
> > I want to present the content of the XML file in a HTML form, so that the
> > owner of the site can modify, add or delete the actual textual
> > content.  XML validation must be done on the server, but will hardly be
> > necessary since the structure of the XML file is managed by the editor.
> >
> > Has anybody any idea if there are any tools to achieve this?  Preferably
> in
> > open source.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bert
> 
> I'm actually using JTidy (http://lempinen.net/sami/jtidy/), converting input
> from form to XML fragment, and putting it into a DB...
> I'm interested on differents approachs...
> ;-)
> 
> - Tomas
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Re: Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Tomas Espeleta]

> To complement the Cocoon framework and to give the customer access to the
> site navigation and the content of his pages, I would like to add an
> on-line XML editor to a Cocoon project.
> I want to present the content of the XML file in a HTML form, so that the
> owner of the site can modify, add or delete the actual textual
> content.  XML validation must be done on the server, but will hardly be
> necessary since the structure of the XML file is managed by the editor.
>
> Has anybody any idea if there are any tools to achieve this?  Preferably
in
> open source.
>
> Thanks,
> Bert

I'm actually using JTidy (http://lempinen.net/sami/jtidy/), converting input
from form to XML fragment, and putting it into a DB...
I'm interested on differents approachs...
;-)

- Tomas


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Dummy proof XML on-line editing

[Bert Van Kets]

To complement the Cocoon framework and to give the customer access to the 
site navigation and the content of his pages, I would like to add an 
on-line XML editor to a Cocoon project.
I want to present the content of the XML file in a HTML form, so that the 
owner of the site can modify, add or delete the actual textual 
content.  XML validation must be done on the server, but will hardly be 
necessary since the structure of the XML file is managed by the editor.

Has anybody any idea if there are any tools to achieve this?  Preferably in 
open source.

Thanks,
Bert


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