Re: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Joerg Heinicke 
Hello Chris,

maybe it's easier than you think. In which way do you find out which files 
to aggregate? If it's simply searching the file system and using some files 
with some criteria, then the DirectoryGenerator can help you. The generated 
XML you can transform to a XML structure like the below one (but with 
XInclude or CInclude statements). At the end simply the XIncludeTransformer 
and everything is fine.

Regards,

Joerg

Shaw, Chris wrote:
Hi - thanks for the reply.

I simply want to open one (or more) XML files - the names of which are not
known to the sitemap (not even available client-side), the file names have
to be figured out using some code.
And then I want to wrap all the XML files with my own XML.

For example:













Maybe I am on the wrong track using a Generator? but it kinda made sense
since that I want to generate XML.

Chris
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On Tuesday 26 November 2002 10:00, Shaw, Chris wrote:


. . .
Is it possible to have a generator that opens an XML file and outputs it
quite simply 'as is' ?
. . .



I'm not sure if I understand your problem, why not simply use the 
FileGenerator together with the XML serializer? Or the CInclude transformer 
maybe?



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RE: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Shaw, Chris 
Hi,

Thanks for reply.

I already tried copying the XMLSerializer but it extends
AbstractTextSerializer and some of the method calls are package protected -
so I didn't get very far.

I'll try the Wiki now..

Thanks for all the help

Chris
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On Tuesday 26 November 2002 14:36, Shaw, Chris wrote:
>. . .
> Can someone in the know point me to the 'how to write a serializer'
> documentation?
>. . .

I don't think there are specific docs on this yet but you might find the 
following pages helpful:

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/developing/extending.html
http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WritingPipelineComponents

And a good starting point would be to study the
org/apache/cocoon/serialization/XMLSerializer.java
source code.

More specific questions on this belong on the cocoon-dev list I think.

-Bertrand

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Re: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz 
On Tuesday 26 November 2002 14:36, Shaw, Chris wrote:
>. . .
> Can someone in the know point me to the 'how to write a serializer'
> documentation?
>. . .

I don't think there are specific docs on this yet but you might find the 
following pages helpful:

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/developing/extending.html
http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WritingPipelineComponents

And a good starting point would be to study the
org/apache/cocoon/serialization/XMLSerializer.java
source code.

More specific questions on this belong on the cocoon-dev list I think.

-Bertrand

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RE: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Shaw, Chris 
Hi,

I think I can rule out CInclude, I probably need to convert my Generator
into a Serializer (since there seems to be no contentHandler.rawXMLData(..)
method in SAX).

Can someone in the know point me to the 'how to write a serializer'
documentation?
(Navigating around the Cocoon documentation is not easy, I even have the
book but that doesn't help).

Thanks

Chris
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On Tuesday 26 November 2002 11:43, Shaw, Chris wrote:
>. . .
> CInclude is not yet on my 'explored' list.
> But in a nuthsell you auto-generate an xml file which then lists which xml
> files you want to include, which is then sent back to Cocoon to process?

That's it.

> If this is the case then I don't think it will work because some of the
> files are only available server side and are fetched using RMI - therefore
> on the client side they only exists in memory.

Not sure if I understand exactly what's happening here...If Cocoon has to 
fetch XML files through RMI and insert their content into XML streams, what 
you need is a Generator that gets the XML over RMI, parses it and makes it 
available as SAX events for the following pipeline components.

You could then use data provided by this Generator for anything, including 
inclusion by CInclude.

The usage scenario would then be
1. Client requests http://myserver/LogPipeline/xyz.xml
2. Generator gets the XML data of "xyz" over RMI (xyz is some form of 
identifier for the data, not necessarily a filename).
3. Generator parses the XML and generates SAX events.

>. . .
> I just need to figure out how to output XML as XML within XML!
>. . .

If you want to insert your RMI-XML into other XML without parsing the
RMI-XML 
(but I'm not sure if this is a good idea), I think the only way is to write
a 
Serializer that does this inclusion. Cocoon uses SAX events between 
components, so I think all other forms require parsing of the RMI-XML.

-Bertrand

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Re: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz 
On Tuesday 26 November 2002 11:43, Shaw, Chris wrote:
>. . .
> CInclude is not yet on my 'explored' list.
> But in a nuthsell you auto-generate an xml file which then lists which xml
> files you want to include, which is then sent back to Cocoon to process?

That's it.

> If this is the case then I don't think it will work because some of the
> files are only available server side and are fetched using RMI - therefore
> on the client side they only exists in memory.

Not sure if I understand exactly what's happening here...If Cocoon has to 
fetch XML files through RMI and insert their content into XML streams, what 
you need is a Generator that gets the XML over RMI, parses it and makes it 
available as SAX events for the following pipeline components.

You could then use data provided by this Generator for anything, including 
inclusion by CInclude.

The usage scenario would then be
1. Client requests http://myserver/LogPipeline/xyz.xml
2. Generator gets the XML data of "xyz" over RMI (xyz is some form of 
identifier for the data, not necessarily a filename).
3. Generator parses the XML and generates SAX events.

>. . .
> I just need to figure out how to output XML as XML within XML!
>. . .

If you want to insert your RMI-XML into other XML without parsing the RMI-XML 
(but I'm not sure if this is a good idea), I think the only way is to write a 
Serializer that does this inclusion. Cocoon uses SAX events between 
components, so I think all other forms require parsing of the RMI-XML.

-Bertrand

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RE: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Shaw, Chris 
> (please use reply-to if possible when replying to mailing lists messages)

ugh? I just simply replied to the mail - there were no other options, what
do you mean?

CInclude is not yet on my 'explored' list.
But in a nuthsell you auto-generate an xml file which then lists which xml
files you want to include, which is then sent back to Cocoon to process?

If this is the case then I don't think it will work because some of the
files are only available server side and are fetched using RMI - therefore
on the client side they only exists in memory.

---

Ok, maybe some more info is needed to explain exactly what I want to
achieve. Here is a ***simplified*** overview.
For auditting purposes, various (XML formatted) log files need to be made
available via a browser - for now simply retruned to Cocoon as XML which is
then run through an XSLT stylesheet (which could also potenitally filter the
data).

Some of the files are client-side, some are server-side - some files might
be rotated so there may be serveral names to figure out/open.
(different log files can live in different directories even), and different
deployments of Cocoon need to pick up different log files - luckily the name
of the file is easily figured out using the Log Manager.

I had no luck with 3rd party applications which are no longer an option, and
it doesn't *sound* that complicated. In fact, the code is written, I just
need to figure out how to output XML as XML within XML!

Thanks

Chris
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On Tuesday 26 November 2002 11:04, Shaw, Chris wrote:
>. . .
> I simply want to open one (or more) XML files - the names of which are not
> known to the sitemap (not even available client-side), the file names have
> to be figured out using some code.
>. . .

Looks like a typical use-case for the CInclude transformer: what you want is

first generate (using any kind of pipeline) an XML document that tells 
CInclude which documents to include, and then pass this to the CInclude 
transformer.

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/transformers/cinclude-transformer.html

explains how this work.

-Bertrand

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Re: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Ludovic de Beaurepaire 
Sorry,

The previous title is "Inserting XML String", if u want to insert your XML
from a XSP.

Ludovic
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> previous thread? sorry the previous thread is titled: "Cocoon@Oracle
> 9iAS/Linux," when I look in Mail Archive.
>
> You give me more info, a thread title perhaps?
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ludovic de Beaurepaire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday 26 November 2002 10:53
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> Subject: Re: output XML
>
>
> Hi,
>
> >I have such a thing written at the moment but when I use
> >contentHandler.characters(..) then all the XML tags get escaped into <
> >and > tags!
>
> Please read the previous thread...
>
> Ludovic
>
> - Original Message -
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:00 AM
> Subject: output XML
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Simple question (I hope!)
> >
> > Is it possible to have a generator that opens an XML file and outputs it
> > quite simply 'as is' ?
> >
> > I have such a thing written at the moment but when I use
> > contentHandler.characters(..) then all the XML tags get escaped into
<
> > and > tags!
> >
> > Thanks (in advance)
> >
> > Chris
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Re: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz 
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On Tuesday 26 November 2002 11:04, Shaw, Chris wrote:
>. . .
> I simply want to open one (or more) XML files - the names of which are not
> known to the sitemap (not even available client-side), the file names have
> to be figured out using some code.
>. . .

Looks like a typical use-case for the CInclude transformer: what you want is 
first generate (using any kind of pipeline) an XML document that tells 
CInclude which documents to include, and then pass this to the CInclude 
transformer.

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/transformers/cinclude-transformer.html 
explains how this work.

-Bertrand

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RE: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Shaw, Chris 
Hi - thanks for the reply.

I simply want to open one (or more) XML files - the names of which are not
known to the sitemap (not even available client-side), the file names have
to be figured out using some code.
And then I want to wrap all the XML files with my own XML.

For example:













Maybe I am on the wrong track using a Generator? but it kinda made sense
since that I want to generate XML.

Chris
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Sent: Tuesday 26 November 2002 10:52
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On Tuesday 26 November 2002 10:00, Shaw, Chris wrote:
>. . .
> Is it possible to have a generator that opens an XML file and outputs it
> quite simply 'as is' ?
>. . .

I'm not sure if I understand your problem, why not simply use the
FileGenerator together with the XML serializer? Or the CInclude transformer
maybe?

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RE: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Shaw, Chris 
previous thread? sorry the previous thread is titled: "Cocoon@Oracle
9iAS/Linux," when I look in Mail Archive.

You give me more info, a thread title perhaps?

Thanks

Chris
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Hi,

>I have such a thing written at the moment but when I use
>contentHandler.characters(..) then all the XML tags get escaped into <
>and > tags!

Please read the previous thread...

Ludovic

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Subject: output XML


> Hi,
>
> Simple question (I hope!)
>
> Is it possible to have a generator that opens an XML file and outputs it
> quite simply 'as is' ?
>
> I have such a thing written at the moment but when I use
> contentHandler.characters(..) then all the XML tags get escaped into <
> and > tags!
>
> Thanks (in advance)
>
> Chris
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Re: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Ludovic de Beaurepaire 
Hi,

>I have such a thing written at the moment but when I use
>contentHandler.characters(..) then all the XML tags get escaped into <
>and > tags!

Please read the previous thread...

Ludovic

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> Hi,
>
> Simple question (I hope!)
>
> Is it possible to have a generator that opens an XML file and outputs it
> quite simply 'as is' ?
>
> I have such a thing written at the moment but when I use
> contentHandler.characters(..) then all the XML tags get escaped into <
> and > tags!
>
> Thanks (in advance)
>
> Chris
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Re: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz 
On Tuesday 26 November 2002 10:00, Shaw, Chris wrote:
>. . .
> Is it possible to have a generator that opens an XML file and outputs it
> quite simply 'as is' ?
>. . .

I'm not sure if I understand your problem, why not simply use the 
FileGenerator together with the XML serializer? Or the CInclude transformer 
maybe?

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RE: output XML

2002-11-26 Thread Shaw, Chris 
Thanks for the reply.

Unfortunately, there are 2 problems.

First, the name of the xml file is not known, so the generator has to go
figure it out, open it and the output it.
The second problem is that I need to wrap it with other XML tags

Any other thoughts?

Thanks

Chris
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Sent: Tuesday 26 November 2002 10:43
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Helo Chris,

try
Is it possible to have a generator that opens an XML file and outputs
it
quite simply 'as is' ?





or with XSP






King regards

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Hi,

Simple question (I hope!)



I have such a thing written at the moment but when I use
contentHandler.characters(..) then all the XML tags get escaped into <
and > tags!

Thanks (in advance)

Chris
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