Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
From: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, James Strachan wrote: - Cut Here - I vote as follows on moving Jelly to the Commons Proper: [X] +1 - I support this move and am willing to help I will add this to the set of commons packages I build nightly, and to the commons-combo package (that builds a combined JAR/Javadocs for all the released jakarta-commons libraries). Although, I'm beginning to wonder if subproject/project status might be better. Jelly core looks like it's becoming a framework with lots of optional packages (and their associated dependencies) on top of it, very reminiscent of Ant ... Agreed. I think we need a small Jelly core, with few dependencies and then seperate optional packages. We can always make a jelly-combo JAR like commons-combo with all the different packages combined into a single jar for those that want it. James --- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 02:13 PM, James Strachan wrote: - Cut Here - I vote as follows on moving Jelly to the Commons Proper: [X] +1 - I support this move and am willing to help [ ] +0 - I support this move, but cannot assist [ ] -0 - I don't support this move [ ] -1 - I vote against this move (requires valid *technical* reasoning) - Cut Here - - robert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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James Strachan wrote: The Jelly code base has been stable for some time and it'd be good to get a stable release of Jelly out so other projects like Maven, Cactus and Latka can depend on a stable, supported release. So I'd like to propose that Jelly be moved to the commons proper where we can start work on getting things in place for an official release. I'm not a commiter, just asking: Will the release contain all tag libraries? I think that it would be better to release Jelly with some tag libraries but maybe not with all of them. And release some tag libraries in the independent way. This 'big' library may be hard to maintain then 'core' distribution and set of tag libraries. (Remember problems with logging Log4J support and NPEs?) I think the same applied to Morper component, BTW. Regards Tomek Pik James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
+1 Mvgr, Martin On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 15:13, James Strachan wrote: The Jelly code base has been stable for some time and it'd be good to get a stable release of Jelly out so other projects like Maven, Cactus and Latka can depend on a stable, supported release. So I'd like to propose that Jelly be moved to the commons proper where we can start work on getting things in place for an official release. I'm +1 - Cut Here - I vote as follows on moving Jelly to the Commons Proper: [ ] +1 - I support this move and am willing to help [ ] +0 - I support this move, but cannot assist [ ] -0 - I don't support this move [ ] -1 - I vote against this move (requires valid *technical* reasoning) - Cut Here - James --- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
From: Tomasz Pik [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Strachan wrote: The Jelly code base has been stable for some time and it'd be good to get a stable release of Jelly out so other projects like Maven, Cactus and Latka can depend on a stable, supported release. So I'd like to propose that Jelly be moved to the commons proper where we can start work on getting things in place for an official release. I'm not a commiter, just asking: Will the release contain all tag libraries? I think that it would be better to release Jelly with some tag libraries but maybe not with all of them. And release some tag libraries in the independent way. This 'big' library may be hard to maintain then 'core' distribution and set of tag libraries. (Remember problems with logging Log4J support and NPEs?) Agreed. I think a small core of Jelly with few dependencies, then other libraries available seperately would be a great idea. Its a common complaint that 'Jelly has lots of dependencies' when really the core is pretty small and has few non-commons dependencies, its just that different libraries have dependencies on other libraries. We could still create a 'one big jar' if need be (like commons-core, or ant-optional etc) or could leave each add-on library as a seperate jar for those wishing a more fine grained control. What I'd really like is a Maven-plugin style model where new libraries and their dependencies could be loaded on demand (if need be) from a small core in a JJAR / Maven / forehead / classworlds kinda way. One of the main aims of proposing Jelly to the commons proper is so that the community can decide the best release form of Jelly. I'd appreciate any feedback on these ideas James --- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
+0 - Original Message - From: James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta Commons Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper The Jelly code base has been stable for some time and it'd be good to get a stable release of Jelly out so other projects like Maven, Cactus and Latka can depend on a stable, supported release. So I'd like to propose that Jelly be moved to the commons proper where we can start work on getting things in place for an official release. I'm +1 - Cut Here - I vote as follows on moving Jelly to the Commons Proper: [ ] +1 - I support this move and am willing to help [ ] +0 - I support this move, but cannot assist [ ] -0 - I don't support this move [ ] -1 - I vote against this move (requires valid *technical* reasoning) - Cut Here - James --- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 09:13 AM, James Strachan wrote: The Jelly code base has been stable for some time and it'd be good to get a stable release of Jelly out so other projects like Maven, Cactus and Latka can depend on a stable, supported release. So I'd like to propose that Jelly be moved to the commons proper where we can start work on getting things in place for an official release. I'm +1 - Cut Here - I vote as follows on moving Jelly to the Commons Proper: [ ] +1 - I support this move and am willing to help [X] +0 - I support this move, but cannot assist [ ] -0 - I don't support this move [ ] -1 - I vote against this move (requires valid *technical* reasoning) - Cut Here - James --- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-355-2219(w) Adeptra, Inc. 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
-bob I vote as follows on moving Jelly to the Commons Proper: [x] +1 - I support this move and am willing to help [ ] +0 - I support this move, but cannot assist [ ] -0 - I don't support this move [ ] -1 - I vote against this move (requires valid *technical* reasoning) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 09:13, James Strachan wrote: The Jelly code base has been stable for some time and it'd be good to get a stable release of Jelly out so other projects like Maven, Cactus and Latka can depend on a stable, supported release. So I'd like to propose that Jelly be moved to the commons proper where we can start work on getting things in place for an official release. I'm +1 - Cut Here - I vote as follows on moving Jelly to the Commons Proper: [x] +1 - I support this move and am willing to help [ ] +0 - I support this move, but cannot assist [ ] -0 - I don't support this move [ ] -1 - I vote against this move (requires valid *technical* reasoning) - Cut Here - James --- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tambora.zenplex.org In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it. -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, James Strachan wrote: - Cut Here - I vote as follows on moving Jelly to the Commons Proper: [X] +1 - I support this move and am willing to help I will add this to the set of commons packages I build nightly, and to the commons-combo package (that builds a combined JAR/Javadocs for all the released jakarta-commons libraries). Although, I'm beginning to wonder if subproject/project status might be better. Jelly core looks like it's becoming a framework with lots of optional packages (and their associated dependencies) on top of it, very reminiscent of Ant ... In the mean time, a real release from Commons is appropriate. [ ] +0 - I support this move, but cannot assist [ ] -0 - I don't support this move [ ] -1 - I vote against this move (requires valid *technical* reasoning) - Cut Here - James Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, James Strachan wrote: - Cut Here - I vote as follows on moving Jelly to the Commons Proper: [X] +1 - I support this move and am willing to help [ ] +0 - I support this move, but cannot assist [ ] -0 - I don't support this move [ ] -1 - I vote against this move (requires valid *technical* reasoning) - Cut Here - -- Martin Cooper -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] moving Jelly to the commons proper
I vote as follows on moving Jelly to the Commons Proper: [X] +1 - I support this move and am willing to help [ ] +0 - I support this move, but cannot assist [ ] -0 - I don't support this move [ ] -1 - I vote against this move (requires valid *technical* reasoning) -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog Work: http://www.multitask.com.au -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
