RE: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
As far as I can tell, in the SF Bay area, it is off by about 20 feet. Not bad at all :) Scott > Now I've noticed quite a few folks falling off the shore, and > into a nearby rivers and canals. Which unless you are living > on a boad - is propably not quite correct. So I'd love to > know if that is projection issue; or a true issue with the > location you entered. > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
Nevermind, if you zoom in far enough (below about 50 yards), it is spot on. Way to go! > As far as I can tell, in the SF Bay area, it is off by about > 20 feet. Not bad at all :) > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: The map on: http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough; the boring digital terrain map of etoto5 gets replaced by mapblast. Depending on which part of the world you're in, the projection is about right :-) Amazing! Now I've noticed quite a few folks falling off the shore, and into a nearby rivers and canals. Which unless you are living on a boad - is propably not quite correct. So I'd love to know if that is projection issue; or a true issue with the location you entered. Well, my position a couple of miles off the right spot. -- Torsten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: The map on: http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html In http://memojo.com/memojowiki/Wiki.jsp?page=SantiagoGalaBlog_blogentry_250203_2 I have two scaring maps from Dirk ;-) Spanish comments, I'm trying to not forget my Spanish. I'm trying to _also_ blog in English, but time is scarce. I'm about 20m (60ft) NE. But I wonder what would happen if I add another figure to the urls.txt thing. Regards, Santiago - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
Torsten Curdt wrote: Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: The map on: http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough; the boring digital terrain map of etoto5 gets replaced by mapblast. Depending on which part of the world you're in, the projection is about right :-) Amazing! Now I've noticed quite a few folks falling off the shore, and into a nearby rivers and canals. Which unless you are living on a boad - is propably not quite correct. So I'd love to know if that is projection issue; or a true issue with the location you entered. Well, my position a couple of miles off the right spot. The coordinates are supposed to be in fractions of a degree, *not* degrees minutes seconds. Also, the georeference could spoil the "fine tuning". I can't remember the name (WGS, I think) 1 minute is 1 nautical mile, so 1/60 instead of 1/100 could get you there. Regards, Santiago - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > I'm about 20m (60ft) NE. But I wonder what would happen if I add another > figure to the urls.txt thing. Please try ! Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Really, really great! just about 15 meters off target...(middle/south germany). muchas gracias, the map rocks! cheers, Erik Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: The map on: http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough; the boring digital terrain map of etoto5 gets replaced by mapblast. Depending on which part of the world you're in, the projection is about right :-) Now I've noticed quite a few folks falling off the shore, and into a nearby rivers and canals. Which unless you are living on a boad - is propably not quite correct. So I'd love to know if that is projection issue; or a true issue with the location you entered. Thanks. Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
> 1 minute is 1 nautical mile, so 1/60 instead of 1/100 could get you there. ^^^ Only at the equator... david - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: >I'm about 20m (60ft) NE. But I wonder what would happen if I add another >figure to the urls.txt thing. Please try ! can somebody remind me of where to find the address->long/lat mapping for the US? I'm about a mile off on the new zoom in and would like to try adding some digits. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, David Reid wrote: > > 1 minute is 1 nautical mile, so 1/60 instead of 1/100 could get you there. >^^^ > Only at the equator... Or use the minutes N/South - they are more constant. Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
David Reid wrote: 1 minute is 1 nautical mile, so 1/60 instead of 1/100 could get you there. ^^^ Only at the equator... I forgot to say "meridian", sorry. In Latitude, one minute is always 1 nautical mile, In Longitude (East-Westwards) only in the Equator. So I stand half corrected (let's say orthogonally corrected) ;-) Regards, Santiago david - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jeff Trawick wrote: > can somebody remind me of where to find the address->long/lat mapping > for the US? I'm about a mile off on the new zoom in and would like to > try adding some digits. This tool http://demo.asemantics.com/zoom.pl shows the point of click below. Not sure if it is accurate enough to zoom in that far; as it is based on perl its floats. Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jeff Trawick wrote: > can somebody remind me of where to find the address->long/lat mapping > for the US? I'm about a mile off on the new zoom in and would like to > try adding some digits. http://geourl.org/ has a couple of links. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; develooper llc,http://www.develooper.com/ do(); - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Now I've noticed quite a few folks falling off the shore, and into a nearby rivers and canals. Which unless you are living on a boad - is propably not quite correct. So I'd love to know if that is projection issue; or a true issue with the location you entered. I zoomed in upto 100ft resolution, and from the looks of it, it seems like I'm standing in my garden instead of in my front door. Given the fact that the distance between door and garden is only 25 meters, it seems like the projection is 'quite' accurate ;-D -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > The map on: > > http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html > > has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough; the boring digital > terrain map of etoto5 gets replaced by mapblast. Depending on which part > of the world you're in, the projection is about right :-) heh heh. now to tie in terraserver or one of the other satellite imaging systems. :-) -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough; the boring digital > > terrain map of etoto5 gets replaced by mapblast. Depending on which part > > of the world you're in, the projection is about right :-) > > heh heh. now to tie in terraserver or one of the other satellite > imaging systems. :-) Working on it :-) (and lets hope we win the next contract to do the real system as well :-) Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > The map on: > > http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html > > has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough;... I gather that you must be using some browser-specific facilities here. I use Mozilla and the map is a mess after the first zoom. Is there some other browser that i should use on Linux? Yes, i know that i could get a dedicated WMS client, but i was hoping that this simple stuff could be done with a basic browser. --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > Now I've noticed quite a few folks falling off the shore, and into a > nearby rivers and canals. Which unless you are living on a boad - is > propably not quite correct. So I'd love to know if that is projection > issue; or a true issue with the location you entered. I see people talking about co-ordinate precision of less than 100 metres. So how are they determining their position? Do they each have a differential GPS in their pocket? If someone has some clever facility to determine an accurate position, then please tell us. --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
On 26 Feb 2003, David Crossley wrote: > > http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html > I gather that you must be using some browser-specific > facilities here. I use Mozilla and the map is a mess > after the first zoom. Darn - I was quite happy as I got it to work after endless fiddling on IE, Mozzila and Safari on MacOSX and a PC. So I guess it needs more fine tuning. Which is well out of my expertize range. Any takers ? http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/inline.js is the culprit. > but i was hoping that this simple stuff could be done > with a basic browser. Actually what you see there is not that simple; it is a miniature GIS with 6-7 layers which are independently fetched and merged from different WMS servers across the itnernet. A perl based version (serverside) would be: http://demo.asemantics.com/zoom.pl but that kind of spoils the fun; as it relies on a cetral infrastructure. Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 26 Feb 2003, David Crossley wrote: > I see people talking about co-ordinate precision of > less than 100 metres. So how are they determining > their position? Do they each have a differential GPS > in their pocket? If someone has some clever facility > to determine an accurate position, then please tell us. Actually; since SA was dropped, and assuming you are using WGS84 and you are not too high or low an altitude - you are generally within 5-20 meters for most of europe - with just about any cheap GPS. Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
David Crossley wrote: Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Now I've noticed quite a few folks falling off the shore, and into a nearby rivers and canals. Which unless you are living on a boad - is propably not quite correct. So I'd love to know if that is projection issue; or a true issue with the location you entered. I see people talking about co-ordinate precision of less than 100 metres. So how are they determining their position? Do they each have a differential GPS in their pocket? If someone has some clever facility to determine an accurate position, then please tell us. Differential GPS is no longer needed, they have withdrawn the intentional unaccuracy in 2000, I think (except that the DOD will inject errors in the system when they need it, maybe in the next few weeks). My GPS (a modern cheap Garmin eTrex), averaged during a whole night up in my house drifted no more than 5m around. This is consistent with the positioning in the map, now that I have entered six figures in my data. The Northern Hemisphere could have more satellites round, thus better coverage, because there is more people (I got amazed with the population density map) and more economic activity. But I'm not sure there is a difference in precision between Spain and Australia. WRT Mozilla, I'm seeing it with Mozilla 1.1, no problem (except that when you click it takes a while for the layers to stabilize, with a not so nice visual effect). --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
David Crossley wrote: Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Now I've noticed quite a few folks falling off the shore, and into a nearby rivers and canals. Which unless you are living on a boad - is propably not quite correct. So I'd love to know if that is projection issue; or a true issue with the location you entered. I see people talking about co-ordinate precision of less than 100 metres. So how are they determining their position? Do they each have a differential GPS in their pocket? If someone has some clever facility to determine an accurate position, then please tell us. I got my position via http://www.whereonearth.com/demos/geocode/. Just type in your (European) address and voila there you are: the returned coords were pretty precise and only shifted my actual position about 25 meters northwards into my neighbours garage (see map). As some others mentioned before, GeoURL has some helpful resources at http://www.geourl.org/resources.html cheers, Erik - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > My GPS (a modern cheap Garmin eTrex), averaged during a whole night up > in my house drifted no more than 5m around. This is consistent with the > positioning in the map, now that I have entered six figures in my data. Another thing to check on your GPS is the filters; most GPS-es have a special mode for stationary position taking. Sometimes called 'Timer mode'. On some GPS-es it is called 'neutral/boat/car/aviation' mode - where the 'boat' mode makes constant height assumptions which may give you a better fix. Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: (...) Darn - I was quite happy as I got it to work after endless fiddling on IE, Mozzila and Safari on MacOSX and a PC. So I guess it needs more fine tuning. Which is well out of my expertize range. Any takers ? http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/inline.js is the culprit. Wait, there is a bug somewhere. The *first* zoom on Crosley fails, but the next ones work (or seems to work), with Mozilla 1.1 Another one, "~n" in "~nacho" gives a newline in krell/bin/scrape_location.pl, and thus fails. I don't speak enough perl for this one. (Funny, it took 57 people to trigger these bug, while "n" should be 1/25 or so ;-) We can learn that: "With enough data, all software is buggy" ;-) but i was hoping that this simple stuff could be done with a basic browser. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > On 26 Feb 2003, David Crossley wrote: > > > > http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html > > > I gather that you must be using some browser-specific > > facilities here. I use Mozilla and the map is a mess > > after the first zoom. > > Darn - I was quite happy as I got it to work after endless fiddling on IE, > Mozzila and Safari on MacOSX and a PC. So I guess it needs more fine > tuning. Which is well out of my expertize range. Any takers ? > http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/inline.js is the culprit. Works fine here on Mozilla 1.2.1 on Linux. Perhaps a bug in a specific version? -Kurt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Santiago Gala wrote: Another one, "~n" in "~nacho" gives a newline in krell/bin/scrape_location.pl, and thus fails. I don't speak enough perl for this one. My fault. I've poked a repair into the sources. (Funny, it took 57 people to trigger these bug, while "n" should be 1/25 or so ;-) We can learn that: "With enough data, all software is buggy" ;-) I like that "Given enough eyes all bugs are shallow." is four metaphors in one sentence (thanks to Karen Healy[1] for noticing three of them). - ben [1] http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/ -- her blog. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
David Crossley wrote: I see people talking about co-ordinate precision of less than 100 metres. So how are they determining their position? Do they each have a differential GPS in their pocket? If someone has some clever facility to determine an accurate position, then please tell us. I ended up plugging a rough draft into mapquest and tinkering with the numbers until I liked where mapquest plotted me - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I see people talking about co-ordinate precision of > less than 100 metres. So how are they determining > their position? Do they each have a differential GPS > in their pocket? If someone has some clever facility > to determine an accurate position, then please tell us. > I am not using GPS, just using MapQuest with lat/long and the apache map is spot on the same. So from a relative perspective, they are both wrong together. I actually have no idea how close it is to actual. Scott - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
Well, my position a couple of miles off the right spot. The coordinates are supposed to be in fractions of a degree, *not* degrees minutes seconds. Also, the georeference could spoil the "fine tuning". I can't remember the name (WGS, I think) fine tuning? 1 minute is 1 nautical mile, so 1/60 instead of 1/100 could get you there. Hm.. I used to know... My position is 51'31"59 9'56"11 and my icbm coordinate is currently 51.53306;9.993644 So applying this "X degrees, Y minutes, and Z seconds, the decimal equivalent is X + Y/60 + Z/3600" I get 51 + 31/60 + 59/3600, 9 + 56/60 + 11/3600 51.53306, 9.93639 ...wondering what I did wrong the last time ;) Using http://demo.asemantics.com/zoom.pl I found myself at (BTW: shoudn't LAT / LONG be switched?) 51.53316000,9.93585304 I updated my icbm page. Curious to see where it gets me :) -- Torsten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
From: Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > The map on: > > > >http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html > > > > has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough; the boring digital > > terrain map of etoto5 gets replaced by mapblast. Depending on which part > > of the world you're in, the projection is about right :-) That map shows only one person in Australia...how are the people determined? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog Work: http://www.multitask.com.au - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That map shows only one person in Australia...how are the people > determined? Do 'cvs checkout committers' and 'cd krell' See the FAQ. Also there are various past threads on committers@ I have been feeling very alone, being the only target here. Especially with the behaviour of our country "leaders". --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off-topic-just for fun] - Maps and zoom-in
From: Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > The map on: > > > >http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/sgala.html > > > > has had a wee enhancement; if you zoom in far enough; the boring digital > > terrain map of etoto5 gets replaced by mapblast. Depending on which part > > of the world you're in, the projection is about right :-) That map shows only one person in Australia...how are the people determined? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog Work: http://www.multitask.com.au - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That map shows only one person in Australia...how are the people determined? There is a file urls.txt in the committers module in CVS. Add yourself in and add the appropriate bits to the given URL (check the ones there for examples). I'll be adding myself soon as I get some spare cycles. Conor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Santiago Gala wrote: > Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > (...) > > > > > > Darn - I was quite happy as I got it to work after endless fiddling on IE, > > Mozzila and Safari on MacOSX and a PC. So I guess it needs more fine > > tuning. Which is well out of my expertize range. Any takers ? > > http://cvs.apache.org/~dirkx/inline.js is the culprit. > > > > Wait, there is a bug somewhere. The *first* zoom on Crosley fails, but > the next ones work (or seems to work), with Mozilla 1.1 Thanks. Yes i see now that the first one or two zooms fail for various places in the world (have offset layers) but subsequent zooms are okay (aligned layers). I cannot see a pattern to the bug yet, but it seems that western North America and Eastern Australia get the problem. --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> That map shows only one person in Australia...how are the people > determined? cvs co committers more krell/FAQ vi urls.txt cvs commit.. Done. Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]