Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions

[Doug Jones]

Cameron Frazier wrote:
> Evening all,
> 
> I'll be heading to the EU for a little over 2 weeks in a week or so,
> and am in need of some advice.  I'd like to use my FR over there, and
> as such need a prepaid SIM.
> 
> As for requirements;
> 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France
> (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne)
> 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS
> 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America
> sucks this for reasonable plans).
> 
> I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM.
> 
> Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to
> ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 



Qik Roam has a prepaid SIM that works in hundreds of countries.

But I have no idea if anybody has succeeded in getting one working in a 
Freerunner.


http://www.qikroam.com

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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Christ van Willegen]

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> + should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage of +
> is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to intentionally
> ignore it.

Not only that, but I intentionally store all my numbers in the +
(usually +31...) format, since not every country has 00 as its
international prefix!

If you look at http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm, there is a whole
list of IDD codes, and there are lots of 'em that aren't 00...

I'm looking forward to having full number recognition, since I now
regularly have to 'mentally lookup' a number when it's calling me...

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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

[Alok G. Singh]

Vikas Saurabh wrote:

> Alok G. Singh ()

FR - A7, afaict.

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cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ?

I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's :)

CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html
and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?)
OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client:
http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories)
OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients:
http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download

* trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from
other projects.

AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each
other) on collecting cells as OpenBmap&OpenCellID - well, you just
collect the cells.
AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects
AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important
data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels.

To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects.
Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to
find the position of a phone, right?

1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj
cellhunter cells?
2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet
3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner

I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just
easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of
these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of
Open Source. Can't really see it here.

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Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

[Dan Staley]

After using this app for a day of geocaching, I have to say it works quite
well!

My suggestions:
Request the 'Display' resource (or at least the CPU) while the program is
running.  This will keep frameworkd from blanking the screen/suspending when
you are looking for the cache!
Perhaps allow the user to mark whether they found or didn't find the cache,
and then allow the user to send all the data to geocaching.com later.

Thanks again for this app and introducing me to this hobby!
I'm having a blast!

-Dan Staley


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>
> Hi!
>
> I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the
> colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on
> these two issues?
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
>
> Marcel-2 wrote:
> >
> > Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 07:18 -0500 schrieb D. Fett:
> >> - speed up map display
> >
> > It may be just me, but it feels slower than the last version...
> > Especially reaching the map view the first time after starting the app
> > takes very long.
> >
> >> - colors on non-standard themes should look right now :-)
> >
> > Works in principle. :) You still seem to set the text color once on the
> > map view tab, after having had that visible all the text gets black on
> > black again...
> >
> > Thanks for the update, it's getting better and better!
> >
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Re: udev rule for the freerunner or make usb networking enduser friendly

[c_c]

Hi,
  Same here - just a static ip for the fr's mac address on ubuntu works
great for me.

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Re: Launcher 0.30 release

[c_c]

Hi,

vendion wrote:
> 
> Location data doesn't work for me.
> 
  Launcher currently subscribes to all cell broadcast channels. Some
transmit info only on registration. Maybe a reboot will help.

vendion wrote:
> 
>  I change %H:%M to %I:%M %p but when I close it reverts back to 24 hour 
> format.  
> 
  Did you press the set time button? Can you try the new release and let me
know?

vendion wrote:
> 
> On a side note sketchbook creates a duplicate entry when assigned to a 
> category.
> 
  I'll take a look at that.

Thanks.

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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[Markus T�rnqvist]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:00:01PM +0100, Joao Pinto wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure we went over this somewhere bit looking at sqlite3 getdeb.db
>> and .schema I can't find a relation between package and application!
>> There's application.source_package VARCHAR(128) and package.source 
>> VARCHAR(64)
>> but surely that's not used for joining ;)
>
>This relation is done by the source_package field, applications are
>related to a single source package, the source package must provide a
>binary package classified with "m" main to be shown on the updates
>list. So yes it is used for joining despite the lack of enforcement of
>referential integrity.

Is this as heavy as it sounds to me?-)

Either doing JOIN over VARCHAR or in code iterating results in a for
loop and doing SELECT over them; both options are heavy.

I know the showroom/apt-portal at large isn't necessarily useful for
sources, but would it make sense to model source packages, just to get
a "normal" foreign key?

Thanks!

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Re: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet

[Joshua Judson Rosen]

Tom Yates  writes:
>
> we're trying to schedule another one, probably at the granta at about 8pm, 
> like the last one was.
> 
> vote for preferred dates at http://www.doodle.com/f88b5xmcbudhnmdg .

It might be good to mention which Cambridge it is :)

I gather, after finding and reading through your personal website,
that you're talking about the Cambridge in England; not the one in
Massachusetts, USA?

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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[Markus T�rnqvist]

On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 04:09:30AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
[...]
>course make at least a devel om-showrom site :P but here is one step
>more of this long road.
>https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/

Hooray!

>also access to svn though ssh or https are setup and working but I
>have to figure out how to enable the Reading operations (checkout,...
>etc) without need to login just lack of time to read and code, this is
>one of my next steps, at least people can access to code with
>webfrontend, those who wants access please let me know (Markus? :P)

Count me in!

Shall I give you an ssh public key or how do we do this?

>the only difference from the original  apt-portal  checkout is
>opkg2sql.py[1] script and sqlite db file[2] generated from the
>succesfull import

Hmm the db might be a bit volatile to be in the VCS, considering
it is regenerated easily, but ok :)

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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

[c_c]

Hi,
  Guys, my name is Chaitanya and I'm in a small town in Kerala called
Payyannur. I have a FR-A6 (I think). 
  I want to get #1024 / buzz fix done for sure. The bass fix is not that
much a deal breaker - though I would rather get everything done in one go
since the phone is going to be opened up anyway.
  I will find it tough to get my FR sent to Delhi - cause Blue Dart doesn't
deliver at my place. I am planning to visit Delhi around Diwali - so I can
get the phone over by hand for sure. Hopefully, the arrangements can be
worked out by then.
Thanks to Rakshat and Vikas for taking the initiative to set this up.
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Re: intone and symlinks

[c_c]

Hi,

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> 
> Just wanted to let you know c_c, that intone does not follow symlinks.
> 
  There was an issue with some filesystems some time ago. To debug that, I
had disabled following symlinks and I found no solution to that problem.
  Let me recheck.

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> 
> Could intone be fixed to follow this symlink?
> 
  You can add the original directory directly to Intone for now. I'll try
and fix this. Might take some time though - I'm a bit busy adding features
to launcher. Have you tried the new release?
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Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)

[c_c]

Hi,

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> 
> I would like to ask, how to add an albumart to intone?
> 
  In this case - change the name of the file Lady GaGa - Poker Face.jpg to
cover.jpg. That should display your cover art.

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> 
> What is the fileformat of lyrics?
> 
  It's a text file as you have discovered. :-) BTW you could use intone as a
flashcard app with music / speech accompaniment this way!!

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> 
> Is there a website to download tagged lyrics?
> 
  I use [1] for getting the lyrics and album art. In fact I had planned on
using their API to automate getting lyrics and album art - but apparently
because of licensing issues the API has been stopped.

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> 
> Ahh, I see it displays the text in a textbox as is.
> No advanced feature, like karaoke;)
> 
  Do you have any ideas on how to implement karaoke without using up too
much CPU? I thought that the basic DSP stuff (being floating point) would
kill the Neo.
  I could divide the time by the no of lines and shift selected lime to get
a rough indication - but that wont work for most of rock and metal.

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> 
> Could you please wrap lines of textbox?
> 
  Sure! Next release this weekend.

[1]http://lyrics.wikia.com/lyrics/Main_Page
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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

2009/9/1 Risto H. Kurppa :
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:40 PM, David Reyes Samblas
> Martinez wrote:
>> Most of them are only one line description and sure can be used as
>> short description for lists but I thing they are poor for fill an the
>> detailed app description, nevertheless we can use them as
>> initialization of description when app is added to the showroom, one
>> line is better than nothing, both bd and code seems clear an easy
>> enough to implement this in the specific Neo showroom app :)
>
> Sound's good!
>
>> Setting up a ssh+svn +webdav on the server(yes we have it :) )  to
>> allow this I will grant ssh+svn access to anyone interested in
>> participate, and allow anonymous checkout , after this I wil set up a
>> webserver with two sites one will be the stable/release of the
>> showroom  and other using directly the developing version from that
>> svn of course the devel version will be first available :)
>
> Sound's good!
>
>> I'm really noob in all that matters but I hope to have the
>> ssh+svn+webdab setup this night
>
> hmm.. okay.. make sure you have decent backups :D
>
>
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There is some(a lot of) work to be done yet, ex. cleaning all
unnecessary imported files to the repo mostly all bzr stuff from
original apt-portal repo , configure Apache to work with  cherrypy,
and set up with a "stable" and "devel" om-showrom site ;), and of
course make at least a devel om-showrom site :P but here is one step
more of this long road.

https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/

also access to svn though ssh or https are setup and working but I
have to figure out how to enable the Reading operations (checkout,...
etc) without need to login just lack of time to read and code, this is
one of my next steps, at least people can access to code with
webfrontend, those who wants access please let me know (Markus? :P)

the only difference from the original  apt-portal  checkout is
opkg2sql.py[1] script and sqlite db file[2] generated from the
succesfull import

[1]https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=om-showroom&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fdebfactory%2Fbin%2Fopkg2sql.py
[2]https://tuxbrain.org/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=om-showroom&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fshrunstable.db
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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 06:17:20PM +0100, Tom Yates wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> 
> > Everything contact lockup related in SHR and opimd works for me, and I
> > can't see why it couldn't work with correct configuration. In case it
> > doesn't work for you - please send here phone number which is reported
> > by network, phone number in contact book and phone-utils
> > configuration. If not me, then i'm sure DocScrutinizer will know what
> > you're doing wrong ;)
> 
> what can i say?  i'm an idiot, or must have screwed up one of the tests. 
> now i have my contacts listed as 0044abcdefghij , they work for all three 
> applications: incoming calls, incoming SMS, and call log.
> 
> thank you all for your help and persistence!

+ should be an alias to 00 if at the beggining of a number. This usage of +
is so common and international that it would be IMHO dumb to intentionally
ignore it.

It would be good to store the number in a normalized format (like 00) but
present it in a consistent format to the most common usage.

In PCRE (after trimming any whitespace)...   ^(?:\+?|00)\d+$

Rui

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Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:58:42PM +0200, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
> CellHunter is getting a new faster server!
> 
> So CellHunter is moving. At the moment I am migrating the database to
> the new system and will check if everything is ok with the data. The bad
> part of the move is that I have to release a new version because the
> submit adress is hardcoded to the old ip :( But the new version will
> contain a dns name and some bugfixes.
> 
> So please be patient and save your logs while I am moving to the new
> server and then update CellHunter to the new version. I will send an
> email again when everything is over. You can also check
> http://cellhunter.omoco.de I will update this subdomain as soon all is
> ready.
> 
> All is getting faster and better - I promise :)
> 
> Greetings, Sebastian
> 
> ps: the database now contains over 7 million entries and is about 1,5GB big.

How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ?

Rui

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Re: QtMoko images V8

[FreedomSound]

I found an issue with sim code request.

I generaly use my phone without a simcode. But today, I installed  
Qtmokov8 and it didn't give me the hand.

At first, The touch screen didn't work on HomeScreen. I pressed the  
AUX button, tried anything and came back at the HomeScreen. Here the  
phone asked me for the SimCode but I had'nt one. I was blocked...

So, I toke my old phone to set a code in the simcard and put it back  
in my FR. Restart it again. FR asked me instantly for my PIN code. I  
did it and I could use the FR after validate.

Sorry for my poor english. I wish that you undertsand me.



Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 1 sept. 09 à 22:58, undrwater  a écrit :

>
>
>
> Bartłomiej Zimoń wrote:
>>
>> Dnia 28 sierpnia 2009 9:07 Radek Polak  napisał 
>> (a):
>>
>> Underwater: please paste here your /etc/init.d/qte file
>>
>> Radek: maybe we can (reset) disable and enable bluetooth after  
>> suspend?
>>
>>
>
> This could be a problem.  I don't have the /etc/init.d/qte file. : 
> (  I do
> have qpe, but I'm sure that's not what you're asking for.
>
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CellHunter is moving to a new server

[Sebastian Hammerl]

Hi,

CellHunter is getting a new faster server!

So CellHunter is moving. At the moment I am migrating the database to
the new system and will check if everything is ok with the data. The bad
part of the move is that I have to release a new version because the
submit adress is hardcoded to the old ip :( But the new version will
contain a dns name and some bugfixes.

So please be patient and save your logs while I am moving to the new
server and then update CellHunter to the new version. I will send an
email again when everything is over. You can also check
http://cellhunter.omoco.de I will update this subdomain as soon all is
ready.

All is getting faster and better - I promise :)

Greetings, Sebastian

ps: the database now contains over 7 million entries and is about 1,5GB big.

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Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

[Ahmad Abdel-Yaman]

Great, everything is working perfectly, thanks a lot for the help :-)

I have one last question though: what is the recommended action to do when not 
using the FR? Should I suspend it (I assume that's what happens when I click 
the power button once) or simply let the screen turn off? Obviously suspending 
would be the better option battery-life-wise, but does this affect any of the 
phone's functionality?

Thanks again for the help.

Ahmad





From: Radek Polak 
To: List for Openmoko community discussion 
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 10:58:58 AM
Subject: Re: [QtMoko] Some QtMoko Questions

Ahmad Abdel-Yaman wrote:
> So if I reboot my FR and make one outgoing call to any number, the
> incoming calls after that should be ok until my next reboot?
> 
> Ahmad
> 
> 

Yes

Regards

Radek



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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

[Vikas Saurabh]

> You might get some luck by announcing it on CU. Depends on how soon do
> you plan to organize fix party. Is it better to announce tomorrow, or on
> next CU?
> [cut]

I have updated 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02#Community.
Hope thats fine!

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Re: QtMoko images V8

[Bart .]

Dnia 1 września 2009 22:58 undrwater  napisał(a):

> 
> 
> 
> Bartłomiej Zimoń wrote:
> > 
> > Dnia 28 sierpnia 2009 9:07 Radek Polak  napisał(a):
> > 
> > Underwater: please paste here your /etc/init.d/qte file
> > 
> > Radek: maybe we can (reset) disable and enable bluetooth after suspend?
> > 
> > 
> 
> This could be a problem.  I don't have the /etc/init.d/qte file. :(  I do
> have qpe, but I'm sure that's not what you're asking for.
> 

Thats right ! sorry it's /etc/init.d/qpe ;)

Bartek

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[SHR-U] libfsotransport0 removed again (was: [SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again)

[Marc Bantle]

Hi,

c_c schrieb:
> Hi,
>   In my case fso-abyss wasn't returning a channel. On running it in the
> terminal I got an error that libfsotransport was not installed. A opkg
> install libfsotransport0 fixed it for me.
>   I thought this might help someone else.
>
>   
It did, thanks!

But when upgrading (opkg upgrade) this
evening, the same thing happened again:
libfsotransport0 got purged. I don't
really understand why, because there
are installed packages depending on it:

$ opkg whatdepends libfsotransport0
Root set:
  libfsotransport0
What depends on root set
fso-abyss 0.3.5+gitr73+a4f65077c3faff89af2b965e9e3fa9bcfea52f83-r0 
depends on libfsotransport0 (>=
0.9.3+gitr408+7e1c1a3e2eebbcaefdb35f5b56342e7c727a576e)
frameworkd-config-shr
0.9.5.9+gitr1653+02ede11c3d92959bf5511cd20a4aeaa3e75641ba-186+fd61a50e505ad3953e5523ba01fdc6483b1f891b-r7

depends on fso-abyss
libfsotransport-dev
0.9.3+gitr410+5c9ab6d4d924812b30f3fc7bde8089584df45752-r6.1 depends
on libfsotransport0 (=
0.9.3+gitr410+5c9ab6d4d924812b30f3fc7bde8089584df45752-r6.1)
libgsm0710mux0
0.3.5+gitr42+df01e9e81775c1d7b515b9caff7c420fae59f140-r1 depends on
libfsotransport0 (>= 0.9.3+gitr408+7e1c1a3e2eebbcaefdb35f5b56342e7c727a576e)
fso-abyss-dev
0.3.5+gitr73+a4f65077c3faff89af2b965e9e3fa9bcfea52f83-r0  depends on
libfsotransport-dev
frameworkd-config-shr-dev
0.9.5.9+gitr1653+02ede11c3d92959bf5511cd20a4aeaa3e75641ba-186+fd61a50e505ad3953e5523ba01fdc6483b1f891b-r7
depends on fso-abyss-dev

and

$ opkg list_installed | egrep
'(fso-abyss|frameworkd-config-shr|libgsm0710mux0)'
frameworkd-config-shr -
0.9.5.9+gitr1653+02ede11c3d92959bf5511cd20a4aeaa3e75641ba-186+fd61a50e505ad3953e5523ba01fdc6483b1f891b-r7
-
frameworkd-config-shr-dev -
0.9.5.9+gitr1653+02ede11c3d92959bf5511cd20a4aeaa3e75641ba-186+fd61a50e505ad3953e5523ba01fdc6483b1f891b-r7
-
fso-abyss - 0.3.5+gitr73+a4f65077c3faff89af2b965e9e3fa9bcfea52f83-r0 -
fso-abyss-dev - 0.3.5+gitr73+a4f65077c3faff89af2b965e9e3fa9bcfea52f83-r0 -
libgsm0710mux0 - 0.3.5+gitr42+df01e9e81775c1d7b515b9caff7c420fae59f140-r1 -


Any ideas?


Marc

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Re: QtMoko images V8

[undrwater]

Bartłomiej Zimoń wrote:
> 
> Dnia 28 sierpnia 2009 9:07 Radek Polak  napisał(a):
> 
> Underwater: please paste here your /etc/init.d/qte file
> 
> Radek: maybe we can (reset) disable and enable bluetooth after suspend?
> 
> 

This could be a problem.  I don't have the /etc/init.d/qte file. :(  I do
have qpe, but I'm sure that's not what you're asking for.

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Re: german "fixing the #1024" bug party

[Thomas Zimmermann]

Am Dienstag 01 September 2009 22:33:53 schrieb Fox Mulder:
> Kahless wrote:
> > hi all,
> >
> > I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it
> > somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) )
> >
> > Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small
> > bug fix party?
>
> I would be willing to do the buzz-fix solution with adding a 10µF cap to
> the existing which i already did to my own freerunner. But i live near
> Frankfurt a.M. which is not very near to NRW.
>
> Ciao,
>  Rainer
I would join the bug fix party, i'm living near Koblenz, so for me it's no 
difference between Frankfurt and NRW.

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Re: german "fixing the #1024" bug party

[Fox Mulder]

Kahless wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it 
> somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) )
> 
> Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small 
> bug fix party?

I would be willing to do the buzz-fix solution with adding a 10µF cap to
the existing which i already did to my own freerunner. But i live near
Frankfurt a.M. which is not very near to NRW.

Ciao,
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intone and symlinks

[Laszlo KREKACS]

Hi!

Just wanted to let you know c_c, that intone does not follow symlinks.
On my root partition (in NAND), the /home/root/Music dir is rather limited,
so I created a symlink which points to /media/card/more directory where
I have more musics.

Could intone be fixed to follow this symlink?
Also via Set songs dir button, the symlink appears as grayed out file.

Best regards,
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Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

[D. Fett]

Hi!

I just published version 0.1.2. Map drawing should be faster now, and the
colors may work corrently, too. Can you please give me some feedback on
these two issues?

Thanks,
Daniel


Marcel-2 wrote:
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> Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 07:18 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: 
>> - speed up map display
> 
> It may be just me, but it feels slower than the last version...
> Especially reaching the map view the first time after starting the app
> takes very long.
> 
>> - colors on non-standard themes should look right now :-)
> 
> Works in principle. :) You still seem to set the text color once on the
> map view tab, after having had that visible all the text gets black on
> black again...
> 
> Thanks for the update, it's getting better and better!
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Re: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet

[Cameron Frazier]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Tom Yates wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Ken Young wrote:
>
>> I'm afraid he means *real* Cambridge - as in England.
>
> sadly, yes.  sorry not to have been clearer.
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Sadly even if it was Cambridge, US, I'd still be out.

Well have fun!

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Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions

[Peter Fey]

Am Montag, den 31.08.2009, 16:58 -0400 schrieb Cameron Frazier:
> as such need a prepaid SIM.
> 

> I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM.
> 
> Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to
> ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this.
Hi,

I'm in Germany and use "Medionmobile" which is sold at all "Aldi"-Stores
in Germany. Unfortunately their FAQ states you need a permanent
residence address in Germany and they will check whether a person with
the name and address you provide them exists before letting you make
calls. Same appears to be valid for "Fonic" and I assume the others
won't be different

So, no suggestion, just a warning.
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Re: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet

[Tom Yates]

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Ken Young wrote:

> I'm afraid he means *real* Cambridge - as in England.

sadly, yes.  sorry not to have been clearer.


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Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India

[Patryk Benderz]

Dnia 2009-09-01, wto o godzinie 13:54 +0530, Vikas Saurabh pisze:
> Hi guys,
> 
> First off, I am terribly sorry for the delay. I was too busy with work
> of late. Anyways, I guess we need to plan on the dates and mode of
> transport of phones to NCR.
> 
> Till now, I know of only following people (through this mail chain):
You might get some luck by announcing it on CU. Depends on how soon do
you plan to organize fix party. Is it better to announce tomorrow, or on
next CU?
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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[c_c]

Hi,

Leonti wrote:
> 
> -  there is no line breaking for cell broadcasting info 
> 
  Implemented.

Leonti wrote:
> 
> - It would be nice to have a possibility to select broadcasting
> channels 
> 
  Implemented. Here's a binary that allows you to select the cell broadcast
channels to subscribe to. 
  By default launcher subscribes to 'all'. With this binary, you should also
see the channel numbers prefixed to the messages. 
  Just use a list of channels (seperated by ',') you want to subscribe to in
place of 'all'. You can change the settings under configure.

http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3562123/launcher launcher 


Leonti wrote:
> 
> - If I go to Contacts->Select some contact->Send SMS. 
> 
  Hope this is better. BTW, the icon changes to a message with a clock,
followed by a message with a green arrow to indicate that the message has
been sent.
  Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet

[Damian Spriggs]

Could always organize one of our own. Miracle of Science [1] on Mass  
Ave would be a nerdy appropriate venue


[1] http://www.miracleofscience.us/

On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Ken Young wrote:


I'm afraid he means *real* Cambridge - as in England.
But if he means Cambridge Mass, I'll be a happy guy.

Ken Young (in Cambridge, Mass)


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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Patryk Benderz]

[cut]
> OK, I won't close it tomorrow.
Thank you. Maybe it is worth to mention that it is still open on CU?

> (though I'm still pretty sure nothing dramatic will happen..)
I am not counting on this. My hidden target ;) is to use this poll to
get to know how many people reads CU and aren't subscribed to ML, if
they start to vote. Regardless of voting results i will get some
statistical info, which is my point.


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Re: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet

[Ken Young]

Cameron Frazier wrote:

> umm... Cambridge UK? Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA? Cambridge,
> Ontario, CA? Other?

> Not trying to be annoying, it's that if you're meeting in Cambridge,
> ON, CA, I'd 1) be there, and 2) be impressed!

> I assume you mean Cambridge, Mass., USA

I'm afraid he means *real* Cambridge - as in England.
But if he means Cambridge Mass, I'll be a happy guy.

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Patryk Benderz]

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> 
> Holy moly... where did that come from? By CU I am hoping you mean
> Community Update.  I did not mention nor did I consider the CU in my
> statement.  I don't know how many people read the CU but I would GUESS
> that the majority of the readers are on this mailing list and have
> already responded to the poll.  Regardless, It would not hurt to
> include it in the CU if there will be one soon.  I apologize if I hit
> an unseen nerve (and it seems I did.)
Seems wrong. Getting me nervous need much more effort and finesse. What
does, is that those 275 respondents you mentioned above are probably
only those who are subscribed to one/some of mailing lists. And you are
trying to ignore those who are looking information about their devices
other ways, like OM wiki. We do not know how many they are such people,
but I assume following:
minimum - NULL, that means you are right
maximum would be approximately the same as number of smart phones sold
by OM Inc. This number might be greater than 300. I do not want to
margin them, as we do not know how many they are.


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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[c_c]

Hi,
  Well, this is what I'd done then

Added these line in the program:-
  const char *theme = "intone";
  elm_theme_overlay_add(theme);

Cut out the entry group from the original elementary theme default.edj.
Saved it as intone.edj in /home/root/.elementary/themes/intone.edj. 

  That was enough to override the default theme.

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Re: Intone and lyrics with album art;)

[Laszlo KREKACS]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Laszlo
KREKACS wrote:
> Lyrics:
> What is the fileformat of lyrics?
> The same like for movies? .srt or .sub? (or even .mpsub?)
>
> Is there a website to download tagged lyrics?
> (ie, its not me how adjust the lyrics to the music)

Ahh, I see it displays the text in a textbox as is.
No advanced feature, like karaoke;)

Could you please wrap lines of textbox?
In python is something like this:

textbox = elementary.Entry(self.window)
textbox.line_wrap_set(True)


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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Tom Yates]

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:

> Everything contact lockup related in SHR and opimd works for me, and I
> can't see why it couldn't work with correct configuration. In case it
> doesn't work for you - please send here phone number which is reported
> by network, phone number in contact book and phone-utils
> configuration. If not me, then i'm sure DocScrutinizer will know what
> you're doing wrong ;)

what can i say?  i'm an idiot, or must have screwed up one of the tests. 
now i have my contacts listed as 0044abcdefghij , they work for all three 
applications: incoming calls, incoming SMS, and call log.

thank you all for your help and persistence!


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Re: OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet

[Cameron Frazier]

umm... Cambridge UK? Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA? Cambridge,
Ontario, CA? Other?

Not trying to be annoying, it's that if you're meeting in Cambridge,
ON, CA, I'd 1) be there, and 2) be impressed!

I assume you mean Cambridge, Mass., USA

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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[Laszlo KREKACS]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Sebastian
Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> Look for elm_theme_overlay_add and elm_theme_extension_add. Adding
> overlay should work just like changing theme.

Is it not slower than replacing the default theme? (ie. it displays
the default theme
elements, and this theme the top of it).
Just guessing here 

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Intone and lyrics with album art;)

[Laszlo KREKACS]

Hi!

I would like to ask, how to add an albumart to intone?

Album art:
I tried to name just like the .mp3 file (except it has .jpg extension), but
it does not get displayed:
r...@om-gta02 ~/Music $ ls -l /home/root/Music/
-rw-r--r--1 root root   103663 Sep  1 18:57 24  Lady GaGa
- Poker Face.jpg
-rw-r--r--1 root root  6533514 Sep  1 18:57 24  Lady GaGa
- Poker Face.mp3
r...@om-gta02 ~/Music

Lyrics:
What is the fileformat of lyrics?
The same like for movies? .srt or .sub? (or even .mpsub?)

Is there a website to download tagged lyrics?
(ie, its not me how adjust the lyrics to the music)

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OpenMoko Cambridge pub meet

[Tom Yates]

we're trying to schedule another one, probably at the granta at about 8pm, 
like the last one was.

vote for preferred dates at http://www.doodle.com/f88b5xmcbudhnmdg .


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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/1/09, Laszlo KREKACS  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM, c_c wrote:
>>  Could you point me towards some examples on how to do this?
>
> "A lesson in colours..."
> http://edjy.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/a-lesso-in-colours/
>
>>  Ha :-) Well - take a look at this [1] for what I was referring to.
>>
>> [1]http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0-55-Elementary-mplayer-frontend-updated-09-Jul-tp2587826p2632259.html
>
>
> Aham. Dunno how to change the theme of elementary. If you know tell me.
>
> However elementary maybe honors from some SHELL VARIABLES, and
> if we cant choose the theme from program, we should change it
> via shell variables.
> Dunno details I got the tip on #edevelop.
>
> Laszlo

Look for elm_theme_overlay_add and elm_theme_extension_add. Adding
overlay should work just like changing theme.

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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[Laszlo KREKACS]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:00 PM, c_c wrote:
>  Could you point me towards some examples on how to do this?

"A lesson in colours..."
http://edjy.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/a-lesso-in-colours/

>  Ha :-) Well - take a look at this [1] for what I was referring to.
>
> [1]http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-0-55-Elementary-mplayer-frontend-updated-09-Jul-tp2587826p2632259.html


Aham. Dunno how to change the theme of elementary. If you know tell me.

However elementary maybe honors from some SHELL VARIABLES, and
if we cant choose the theme from program, we should change it
via shell variables.
Dunno details I got the tip on #edevelop.

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Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions

[Cameron Frazier]

> I use
> medionmobile/alditalk which is the same price per MB.
> And they also offer a 24h-flat(throttled to 56kbit/s after 1GB) for 2EUR and a
> 30-days-flat(throttled after 5GB) for 15EUR.
> Especially the 24h-flat is perfect for a day trip and cheaper than a cup of
> coffee :D
>

This is quite interesting, how does getting one work?  Do most shops
carry them?  And can it be combined with voice/SMS operation?

Please bear with me, I looked over the site, but as I don't know any
German the details are elusive (And putting faith in google translate
for monetary related items is not something I enjoy).

I know that when I was in Italy, I could get a SIM with cash and a
passport, is it similar in DE or do I need a local credit card?

Kind regards,

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Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

[Yorick Moko]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM, David Garabana Barro wrote:

> On Monday 31 August 2009 23:39:46 Dan Staley wrote:
>
> > I'm extremely excited about going out and using this app to help me find
> > some!  Thanks!
>
> Same here!
> Thank you very much for this killer app!
>

+10 :)
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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[c_c]

Hi,

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> 
> You can change the whole them using different .edj file. Thats true.
> 
> You can also define color classes, and you can swap them out via
> embryo scripting. you can pass events to embryo and receive too.
> So communication between the gui code and the application is possible.
> 
  Could you point me towards some examples on how to do this?

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> 
> Dont know what issue are you talking about;) Maybe I didnt try out
> that old paroli?
> 
  Ha :-) Well - take a look at this [1] for what I was referring to.

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Re: problems with intone

[c_c]

Hi,
  Ok. Thanks. That helped catch a bug. Can you try the attached binary and
see if it works? Just scp it to /usr/bin.

   Do post back.
Thanks Again.

http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3560927/intone intone 

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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[Laszlo KREKACS]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:47 AM, c_c wrote:
>  Well, changing colours requires a local app theme and I'm not particularly
> savvy with the .edc concepts and themes.

You can change the whole them using different .edj file. Thats true.

You can also define color classes, and you can swap them out via
embryo scripting. you can pass events to embryo and receive too.
So communication between the gui code and the application is possible.

> Will take this on in a little while
> - after the basic features have been added. In the interim I remember having
> this issue with intone and the initial paroli releases.

Dont know what issue are you talking about;) Maybe I didnt try out
that old paroli?

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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[Markus T�rnqvist]

I CC'd our friend Joao on this :)

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 12:40:39PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:

>>>So what's the thing with descriptions? Do they have to be filled in
>>>manually - no changes of using some importer script there too?
>>>Screenshots need to be added manually of course.
>Most of them are only one line description and sure can be used as
>short description for lists but I thing they are poor for fill an the
>detailed app description, nevertheless we can use them as
>initialization of description when app is added to the showroom, one
>line is better than nothing, both bd and code seems clear an easy
>enough to implement this in the specific Neo showroom app :)

Yeah :)

>> If a source provides only only binary, we should be able to take that
>> binary's description and use it for the application.

>> Note that source, binary and application are different concepts here.
>To check if I understand it well(using shr as example)
>souce -> ipkg repository
>binary->ipkg package

source is the source package, repository is repository.

There's a separate table "application" which contains the description,
which is not the same as a package's description, but if we have only
one binary per application, we can use the binary package's description.

That's where source comes in, tho it's not really in the db, which would
be to find out how many binaries the source produces...

>application->description+image+package/s

We need a table for images!

I'm pretty sure we went over this somewhere bit looking at sqlite3 getdeb.db
and .schema I can't find a relation between package and application!

There's application.source_package VARCHAR(128) and package.source VARCHAR(64)
but surely that's not used for joining ;)

>related+[opt]video+[opt]comments+[opt]opt votes piece of showroom for
>an specific software application

Ooh video, I like that :)

But this is tangenting on the roadmap, in which order are we going
to do features.

I sort of like the idea of doing images first, because it's a showroom
after all.

>> Thanks guys!
>Setting up a ssh+svn +webdav on the server(yes we have it :) )  to
>allow this I will grant ssh+svn access to anyone interested in
>participate, and allow anonymous checkout , after this I wil set up a
>webserver with two sites one will be the stable/release of the
>showroom  and other using directly the developing version from that
>svn of course the devel version will be first available :)
>
>I'm really noob in all that matters but I hope to have the
>ssh+svn+webdab setup this night

If that proves difficult, maybe git is an alternative?

I've been using git for so long I can't even remember svn, I'd probably
use git-svn for development too :D

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german "fixing the #1024" bug party

[Kahless]

hi all,

I'm interested in fixing my #1024 bug but i don't want to send it 
somewhere. (it's my main phone and i love it too much :) )

Is anyone near /North-Rhine/-Westphalia interested in starting a small 
bug fix party?

Sascha

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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Adam Jimerson]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
wrote:

> On 9/1/09, Tom Yates  wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Robin Paulson wrote:
> >
> >> NZ, but it shouldn't matter
> >
> > i agree, but how the local network presents a number does seem to vary
> > widely from network to network - and, indeed, application to application
> > (my incoming numbers on texts are a different format than those on
> calls).
> >
> >> incoming calls: i probably make/receive one call a month, if that, so
> >> i can't help at the moment
> >> call log: yes
> >> messages: yes
> >
> > blast, the two i have working now are the two that you have working.  the
> > one that's not working is for real-time incoming calls.  don't suppose
> you
> > fancy calling yourself (not picking up, so hopefully no cost) from
> another
> > phone and letting me know what happens?
> >
> > sebastian, can you confirm that contact lookup on incoming calls works
> for
> > you?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >Tom Yates  -  http://www.teaparty.net
>
> Everything contact lockup related in SHR and opimd works for me, and I
> can't see why it couldn't work with correct configuration. In case it
> doesn't work for you - please send here phone number which is reported
> by network, phone number in contact book and phone-utils
> configuration. If not me, then i'm sure DocScrutinizer will know what
> you're doing wrong ;)
>
>
So let me see if I understand this the only thing that needs changed is the
country code right, everything else remains a 0?  As I live in the USA all I
know is that a +1 is used, everything else is unknown to me and I am having
to Google for.
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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Lowell Higley]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote:

> [cut]
> >
> > I completely agree... over 275 respondents with SHR claiming 65% of
> > the usage votes.  I don't think carrying on the poll will alter the
> > results significantly.
> So, you assume almost no one reads CU? In that case maybe we should stop
> releasing CUs
>
>
Holy moly... where did that come from? By CU I am hoping you mean Community
Update.  I did not mention nor did I consider the CU in my statement.  I
don't know how many people read the CU but I would GUESS that the majority
of the readers are on this mailing list and have already responded to the
poll.  Regardless, It would not hurt to include it in the CU if there will
be one soon.  I apologize if I hit an unseen nerve (and it seems I did.)
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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[c_c]

Hi,

vendion wrote:
> 
> I have problems with working with the contacts in this release, I
> currently
> don't have the ability to ssh into the phone to more details, but when
> launching the built in contacts Launcher crashes with a corruption error.
> 
  Can you try the attached binary and let me know if it works? There is an
error with the sms app - something to do with the latest updates in opimd.
But the rest should work.
Thanks.

http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3559779/launcher launcher 
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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:40 PM, David Reyes Samblas
Martinez wrote:
> Most of them are only one line description and sure can be used as
> short description for lists but I thing they are poor for fill an the
> detailed app description, nevertheless we can use them as
> initialization of description when app is added to the showroom, one
> line is better than nothing, both bd and code seems clear an easy
> enough to implement this in the specific Neo showroom app :)

Sound's good!

> Setting up a ssh+svn +webdav on the server(yes we have it :) )  to
> allow this I will grant ssh+svn access to anyone interested in
> participate, and allow anonymous checkout , after this I wil set up a
> webserver with two sites one will be the stable/release of the
> showroom  and other using directly the developing version from that
> svn of course the devel version will be first available :)

Sound's good!

> I'm really noob in all that matters but I hope to have the
> ssh+svn+webdab setup this night

hmm.. okay.. make sure you have decent backups :D


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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote:
> [cut]
>> This is exactly what you're supposed to do, well done, thanks!
>>
>> If one person starts stuff like this, he can only share it to n
>> forums/lists - the people who read those and follow also some other
>> need to spread the word.
> If you really mean it, will you make those polls last longer?

OK, I won't close it tomorrow.

(though I'm still pretty sure nothing dramatic will happen..)

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Re: Launcher - v 0.35 Release (inbuilt contacts, sms and phonelog)

[Adam Jimerson]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:47 PM, c_c  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>  I've only about finished adding all that I felt was needed. There is some
> testing that still needs to be done.
>  Once I get these basic features working reliably - I'll move on to adding
> more features as desired. So the wishlist is open :-)
>
>
I have problems with working with the contacts in this release, I currently
don't have the ability to ssh into the phone to more details, but when
launching the built in contacts Launcher crashes with a corruption error.
I'll have access to a machine that I can SSH into my phone and give an exact
error.  I did try removing the .launcher directory in my home directory to
see if it was just a problem with the database and the config files but that
didn't solve it.
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Re: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/1/09, Robin Paulson  wrote:
> 2009/9/1 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak :
>> I'm shr-splash author.
>>
>> Illume has nothing to do with boot splash screen. Don't search for it
>> in illume wrench.
>>
>> AFAIK there is no nEo theme for shr-splash. In SHR are available only
>> simple, dontpanic, handy and niebiee. Qalee is also using shr-splash
>> and they have their own theme. I don't know anything about other
>> themes.
>
> right, i must have my terminology wrong then. what's the thing called
> that displays the nEo boot screen? the thing that has messages about
> hamsters and formatting my sd card, and recalculating pi?

AFAIK exquisite, not used by default.

> what does the 'startup' option in illume settings, control?

Illume splash, in SHR disabled by default.

> what does the 'Splash settings' in shr-settings/appearance, control?

shr-splash

> if neither of the latter two controls the hamster/sd card/pi thing,
> how do i control it? other than force-installing and overwriting
> stuff?

/etc/exquisite? There is something like that, you can set theme for it
in config file. But, again, SHR doesn't use exquisite by default, it's
custom.

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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/1/09, Tom Yates  wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Robin Paulson wrote:
>
>> NZ, but it shouldn't matter
>
> i agree, but how the local network presents a number does seem to vary
> widely from network to network - and, indeed, application to application
> (my incoming numbers on texts are a different format than those on calls).
>
>> incoming calls: i probably make/receive one call a month, if that, so
>> i can't help at the moment
>> call log: yes
>> messages: yes
>
> blast, the two i have working now are the two that you have working.  the
> one that's not working is for real-time incoming calls.  don't suppose you
> fancy calling yourself (not picking up, so hopefully no cost) from another
> phone and letting me know what happens?
>
> sebastian, can you confirm that contact lookup on incoming calls works for
> you?
>
>
> --
>
>Tom Yates  -  http://www.teaparty.net

Everything contact lockup related in SHR and opimd works for me, and I
can't see why it couldn't work with correct configuration. In case it
doesn't work for you - please send here phone number which is reported
by network, phone number in contact book and phone-utils
configuration. If not me, then i'm sure DocScrutinizer will know what
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Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) & some comments

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

2009/9/1 Markus Törnqvist :
> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:54:46AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>>
>>Now
>>a) filter all libraries away
>>b) maybe filter away files with no proper .desktop file..
>
> Yeah, common sense ftw, maybe some libraries may or may not be
> relevant to our interests, but we'd figure those out.
>
> Do you have a guess on what the shares are of libraries and packages
> without .desktop?
>
>>Or something not to have it bloated and impossible to find anything there :)
>
> +1
Ok this  will be my next step on coding, I will try to make is good
enough to be upstream on apt-portal,
>
>>So what's the thing with descriptions? Do they have to be filled in
>>manually - no changes of using some importer script there too?
>>Screenshots need to be added manually of course.
Most of them are only one line description and sure can be used as
short description for lists but I thing they are poor for fill an the
detailed app description, nevertheless we can use them as
initialization of description when app is added to the showroom, one
line is better than nothing, both bd and code seems clear an easy
enough to implement this in the specific Neo showroom app :)
>
> If a source provides only only binary, we should be able to take that
> binary's description and use it for the application.
>
> Note that source, binary and application are different concepts here.
To check if I understand it well(using shr as example)
souce -> ipkg repository
binary->ipkg package
application->description+image+package/s
related+[opt]video+[opt]comments+[opt]opt votes piece of showroom for
an specific software application
>
>>David: I'd like you to share your work with at least Markus. It's nice
>>to hear that you're doing progress but as this is supposed to be a
>>community effort, it's vital that also some other know about what's
>>happening and can go and learn the code we're using etc.
>
> Preferrably not just me, chacnes are someone with more spare time
> would accomplish things faster, but at least I still like to help out :)
>
> Thanks guys!
Setting up a ssh+svn +webdav on the server(yes we have it :) )  to
allow this I will grant ssh+svn access to anyone interested in
participate, and allow anonymous checkout , after this I wil set up a
webserver with two sites one will be the stable/release of the
showroom  and other using directly the developing version from that
svn of course the devel version will be first available :)

I'm really noob in all that matters but I hope to have the
ssh+svn+webdab setup this night

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Re: Nokia N900 (charging battery not possible with free software yet)

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  writes:
> No, it's firmware running on their chips. If it was the driver than the
> following command would result in ONE instead of ZERO :)

You can have drivers in userland too. For example I understood that
you can't charge the N900 battery with free software.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Documentation/BME_Protocol

describes some reverse-engineering efforts on that one.

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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Tom Yates]

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Robin Paulson wrote:

> NZ, but it shouldn't matter

i agree, but how the local network presents a number does seem to vary 
widely from network to network - and, indeed, application to application 
(my incoming numbers on texts are a different format than those on calls).

> incoming calls: i probably make/receive one call a month, if that, so
> i can't help at the moment
> call log: yes
> messages: yes

blast, the two i have working now are the two that you have working.  the 
one that's not working is for real-time incoming calls.  don't suppose you 
fancy calling yourself (not picking up, so hopefully no cost) from another 
phone and letting me know what happens?

sebastian, can you confirm that contact lookup on incoming calls works for 
you?


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Re: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/1 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak :
> I'm shr-splash author.
>
> Illume has nothing to do with boot splash screen. Don't search for it
> in illume wrench.
>
> AFAIK there is no nEo theme for shr-splash. In SHR are available only
> simple, dontpanic, handy and niebiee. Qalee is also using shr-splash
> and they have their own theme. I don't know anything about other
> themes.

right, i must have my terminology wrong then. what's the thing called
that displays the nEo boot screen? the thing that has messages about
hamsters and formatting my sd card, and recalculating pi?

what does the 'startup' option in illume settings, control?

what does the 'Splash settings' in shr-settings/appearance, control?

if neither of the latter two controls the hamster/sd card/pi thing,
how do i control it? other than force-installing and overwriting
stuff?

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Re: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/1/09, Robin Paulson  wrote:
> 2009/9/1 Martin Jansa :
>> More than boot screen, I would like to see it integrated better in shr..
>> 1) bbfiles in shr/import
>> 2) no-overwrite between standard libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme and
>> libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo, the same for etk-theme-shr and
>> eth-theme-neo
>>
>> With every rebuild of standart shr themes, the files are overwritten on
>> neo with upgrade and then I have to manually overwrite them again by
>> installing -neo.opkgs. Or I would get inconsistent look.
>
> yes! +10 for that

Both should be obsoleted. libframeworkd-phonegui-efl is dead, and we
don't plan to use etk at all in new stack.

In quoted part of mail I agree only on bb files ;)

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Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer

[Matthias Huber]

Matthias Huber schrieb:
> this code snippets work and the buttons are red and green.
>   
But now it doesn't dial >:o
>
>
> part {
> name,   "button_exit";
> type,   RECT;
> mouse_events, 1;
> description {
> color: 255 0 0 255;
> state, "default" 0.0;
> rel1 {
> relative, 0.66 0.85;
> }
> rel2 {
> relative, 1.00 1;
> }
> }
> }
>
>
> part {
> name,   "button_call";
> type,   RECT;
> mouse_events, 1;
> description {
> state, "default" 0.0;
> color, 0 255 0 255;
> rel1 {
> relative, 0.00 0.85;
> }
> rel2 {
> relative, 0.33 1;
> }
> }
> }
>
>   


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Re: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/1 Martin Jansa :
> More than boot screen, I would like to see it integrated better in shr..
> 1) bbfiles in shr/import
> 2) no-overwrite between standard libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme and
> libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo, the same for etk-theme-shr and
> eth-theme-neo
>
> With every rebuild of standart shr themes, the files are overwritten on
> neo with upgrade and then I have to manually overwrite them again by
> installing -neo.opkgs. Or I would get inconsistent look.

yes! +10 for that

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Re: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/1/09, Robin Paulson  wrote:
> i installed the nEo theme a few days back and love it - so much
> faster, more consistent, it's great
>
> i'd like to use the nEo boot screen also, in place of the 'don't
> panic' splash, but illume segfaults whenever i try to open the
> 'startup' option in the illume settings manager
>
> any suggestions? i've seen the shr-settings module, but it's not
> listed in there - there's only the 'don't panic' theme
>
> thanks

I'm shr-splash author.

Illume has nothing to do with boot splash screen. Don't search for it
in illume wrench.

AFAIK there is no nEo theme for shr-splash. In SHR are available only
simple, dontpanic, handy and niebiee. Qalee is also using shr-splash
and they have their own theme. I don't know anything about other
themes.

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Patryk Benderz]

[cut]
> This is exactly what you're supposed to do, well done, thanks!
> 
> If one person starts stuff like this, he can only share it to n
> forums/lists - the people who read those and follow also some other
> need to spread the word.
If you really mean it, will you make those polls last longer?

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Patryk Benderz]

[cut]
> 
> I completely agree... over 275 respondents with SHR claiming 65% of
> the usage votes.  I don't think carrying on the poll will alter the
> results significantly.
So, you assume almost no one reads CU? In that case maybe we should stop
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Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer

[Matthias Huber]

this code snippets work and the buttons are red and green.



part {
name,   "button_exit";
type,   RECT;
mouse_events, 1;
description {
color: 255 0 0 255;
state, "default" 0.0;
rel1 {
relative, 0.66 0.85;
}
rel2 {
relative, 1.00 1;
}
}
}


part {
name,   "button_call";
type,   RECT;
mouse_events, 1;
description {
state, "default" 0.0;
color, 0 255 0 255;
rel1 {
relative, 0.00 0.85;
}
rel2 {
relative, 0.33 1;
}
}
}

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Re: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen

[Martin Jansa]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:57:06PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote:
> i installed the nEo theme a few days back and love it - so much
> faster, more consistent, it's great
> 
> i'd like to use the nEo boot screen also, in place of the 'don't
> panic' splash, but illume segfaults whenever i try to open the
> 'startup' option in the illume settings manager
> 
> any suggestions? i've seen the shr-settings module, but it's not
> listed in there - there's only the 'don't panic' theme
> 
> thanks

Yes it's great, I love it too.

More than boot screen, I would like to see it integrated better in shr..
1) bbfiles in shr/import
2) no-overwrite between standard libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme and
libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo, the same for etk-theme-shr and
eth-theme-neo

With every rebuild of standart shr themes, the files are overwritten on
neo with upgrade and then I have to manually overwrite them again by
installing -neo.opkgs. Or I would get inconsistent look.

I don't know if there is config option for E/etk/phonegui-efl to select
theme like (ELM_THEME=neo), or how to enable multiple themes for them
properly.

Warning from -neo packages:

This will mess a little with your /usr/share/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl
folder, but dont worry its only seeting up some necessary symlinks and
backing up your default theme
This whole process will be reverted when removing this package

IMPORTANT: this package hast to be installed with -force-overwrite or
else it wont work!!!

Press return to continue or ctrl+c to abort


continuing
mkdir: cannot create directory `default/': File exists
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Configuring libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo
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Re: Community news tomorrow - news needed!

[Patryk Benderz]

[cut]
> I have added the Advanced Geocaching Tool there; can someone tell me how
> to upload a screenshot?
Please add screenshot with resolution the same as FR screec , and not
bigger then limit for images on wiki.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Upload

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problems with intone

[Robin Paulson]

i've been using intone on and off since version 0.3 something, but
since 0.66 (i think), it's got a nasty bug. whenever i try to add
songs to the db, it hangs after importing them, and leaves the 'adding
245 tracks and 13 albums' message pane up. sometimes it stops after
getting part way through the process, then crashes when i close the
'adding tracks...' message, and outputs this error message to the
console:

Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x58c)!
Xlib: sequence lost (0x1058c > 0x58e) in reply type 0x0!

i've tried deleting the intone_songs.db file in ~/.intone, but it still happens

i've tried reinstalling

intone can't be closed or killall'd, and i have to restart the
xserver, at which point the songs i've imported appear in the 'now
playing' screen

any suggestions?

oh, and how do i delete tracks from the 'now playing' screen?

after adding tracks and playing them, they stay there, and i can't
find the delete button

cheers

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[shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen

[Robin Paulson]

i installed the nEo theme a few days back and love it - so much
faster, more consistent, it's great

i'd like to use the nEo boot screen also, in place of the 'don't
panic' splash, but illume segfaults whenever i try to open the
'startup' option in the illume settings manager

any suggestions? i've seen the shr-settings module, but it's not
listed in there - there's only the 'don't panic' theme

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Re: Nokia N900

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/1/09, yangm  wrote:
> Anyway, if you don't plan update update the drvier, you need not care it.

That's valid point only for "typical users".

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Re: udev rule for the freerunner or make usb networking enduser friendly

[Helge Hafting]

Radek Polak wrote:
> Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> 
>> I would like to use my freerunner in a plug&play mode. Just attach to the
>> computer, and simply ssh in using terminal or nautilus.
> 
> You have to setup dhcp server on your freerunner. E.g. on debian:

Seems like a lot of effort, I find it easier to set up static 
192.168.0.200 for eth1 on the computer. This avoids running a dhcp
server on the rather limited phone.

Still, the dhcp server may be easier if you regularly connect to many 
different computers.

Helge Hafting

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Re: Nokia N900

[yangm]

I agree,

I think Nokia don't care the driver code is open or close, because it's not
the value of nokia,
Maybe it's chipset productor's value. Maybe the operator required.

Anyway, if you don't plan update update the drvier, you need not care it.

2009/9/1 DJDAS 

> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto:
> > I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that
> > is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT
> > software.
> >
> >
> Even 2% of Freerunner code is proprietary (Calypso and Wifi and it's
> VERY IMPORTANT too) why do we have to care if Nokia uses proprietary
> drivers on the N900? ;)
> Bye!
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Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer

[Matthias Huber]

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak schrieb:
> On 9/1/09, Matthias Huber  wrote:
>   
 wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli?

 
>> ... and for the moment, as i think, it should be only the edje-file, can
>> someone help me to make the button green and the release button red ?
>>
>> 
> In edc files, in button definitions (it's easy to find them out):
>
> Green:
> color: 0 255 0 255;
>
> Red:
> color: 255 0 0 255;
>
> But probably that won't look so good.
>
>   
Normally yes, but this is a "swallow", and it doesn't seem to take the
color attribute.

It tried:

   part {
name,   "button_call";
type,   SWALLOW;
mouse_events, 1;
description {
state, "default" 0.0;
color, 0 255 0 255;
rel1 {
relative, 0.00 0.85;
}
rel2 {
relative, 0.33 1;
}
}
}


someone of the e-experts ?

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Lowell Higley]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Risto H. Kurppa  wrote:

> (I personally think that we've already seen what we want: what's the
> most popular distro, and how much more popular it is than the others
> and the same for the boot loader -> I'm sure the results will not
> radically change, and OTOH my guess is that people who don't read
> theses lists etc are not that active in using it either.. I might be
> wrong of course)
>
> r
>
>
>
I completely agree... over 275 respondents with SHR claiming 65% of the
usage votes.  I don't think carrying on the poll will alter the results
significantly.
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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Niels
Heyvaert wrote:
> Mind you, this list is not the only list to do with the Freerunner. I took 
> the liberty to post a message on another forum (http://forum.koolu.org/) and 
> mailinglist (android-freerun...@android.koolu.org) announcing the poll.

This is exactly what you're supposed to do, well done, thanks!

If one person starts stuff like this, he can only share it to n
forums/lists - the people who read those and follow also some other
need to spread the word.

> Maybe there are other lists or forums where we could announce the poll?

Don't know, possibly, I hope people will forward this there. Or did
already a week ago..

r

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Re: Nokia N900

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 10:56:07AM +0200, DJDAS wrote:
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto:
> > I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that
> > is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT
> > software.
> >
> >   
> Even 2% of Freerunner code is proprietary (Calypso and Wifi and it's 
> VERY IMPORTANT too) why do we have to care if Nokia uses proprietary 
> drivers on the N900? ;)

No, it's firmware running on their chips. If it was the driver than the
following command would result in ONE instead of ZERO :)


r...@om-gta02 ~ $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted
0


Compare that to:
 * energy support
 * wifi
 * flasher
 * ...

Rui

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Re: Community news tomorrow - news needed!

[Marcel]

Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 12:00 +0300 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02
> 
> Please add new application releases, any important e-mails from the
> lists etc etc, news from different distributions etc

I have added the Advanced Geocaching Tool there; can someone tell me how
to upload a screenshot?

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Re: Nokia N900

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

On Tuesday 01 September 2009 10:56:07 DJDAS wrote:
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto:
> > I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that
> > is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT
> > software.
>
> Even 2% of Freerunner code is proprietary (Calypso and Wifi and it's
> VERY IMPORTANT too) why do we have to care if Nokia uses proprietary
> drivers on the N900? ;)

There's a difference between closed firmware providing a standard protocol and 
a 
proprietary ASIC providing a closed-source binary driver using a proprietary 
command language to talk to the hardware.

None of the Nxx tablets are fully functional with free software. The 
FreeRunner is.

:M:

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Re: Community news tomorrow - news needed!

[Patryk Benderz]

Dnia 2009-09-01, wto o godzinie 12:00 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa pisze:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02
> 
> Please add new application releases, any important e-mails from the
> lists etc etc, news from different distributions etc
Good to know that somebody else also takes care :)

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RE: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Niels Heyvaert]

>> Better idea?
>
> yes: don't harass people
>
> if they want to take part in the community, they'll join the list, see
> the email and maybe answer the survey. if they aren't subscribed to
> the list, it's probably cos they don't want to be an active member of
> the community

Mind you, this list is not the only list to do with the Freerunner. I took the 
liberty to post a message on another forum (http://forum.koolu.org/) and 
mailinglist (android-freerun...@android.koolu.org) announcing the poll.
 
I've subscribed to the other list and visit the forum on a daily basis. Was not 
trying to influence the results towards Android, but just wanted to inform 
other parts of the FR community.
 
Maybe there are other lists or forums where we could announce the poll?
 
Niels.
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Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?

[Thomas HOCEDEZ]

Olivier Migeot a écrit :
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote:
>   
>> As the "Braderie" is a Giant Car boot sale, I will only fix #1024, the
>> Buzzfix needs a more quiet place to do it. Or If you're not affraid of
>> what could happen to your phone...
>> 
>
> My... I won't be able to make it. Too bad. I hope something similar
> will occur around Paris later. Good luck with the Braderie anyway.
>
>   
Okay, but if you come on our coutry side one day, you'll be welcome to 
be fixed !

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Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

[David Garabana Barro]

On Monday 31 August 2009 23:39:46 Dan Staley wrote:

> I'm extremely excited about going out and using this app to help me find
> some!  Thanks!

Same here!
Thank you very much for this killer app!

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Patryk Benderz]

[cut]
> So what's your idea to reach them?
through CU (I can see you already did this, thanks) but make this poll
last longer and invite people to vote with us.

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Risto H. Kurppa]

(I personally think that we've already seen what we want: what's the
most popular distro, and how much more popular it is than the others
and the same for the boot loader -> I'm sure the results will not
radically change, and OTOH my guess is that people who don't read
theses lists etc are not that active in using it either.. I might be
wrong of course)

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Community news tomorrow - news needed!

[Risto H. Kurppa]

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02

Please add new application releases, any important e-mails from the
lists etc etc, news from different distributions etc

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Re: Nokia N900

[DJDAS]

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto:
> I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that
> is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT
> software.
>
>   
Even 2% of Freerunner code is proprietary (Calypso and Wifi and it's 
VERY IMPORTANT too) why do we have to care if Nokia uses proprietary 
drivers on the N900? ;)
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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/1 Alex Teiche :
> Better idea?

yes: don't harass people

if they want to take part in the community, they'll join the list, see
the email and maybe answer the survey. if they aren't subscribed to
the list, it's probably cos they don't want to be an active member of
the community

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Re: Freerunner & wireless internet

[Davide Scaini]

I'm using a real .28-rc4 that works fine with wifi but has some issues with
telephony reliability. (and right now I have no idea where you can find that
kernel over the internet... I have a copy on my hd)
You can try the one from shr-testing repos that is reposted as a .28-stable
but it's an .29-rc2 ... i tryed it and it seems to work fine even with wifi.
Give a try: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/

don't forget to download and untar the modules, then reboot twice... et
voilà, it works!


On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Michele Brocco  wrote:

> On 8/29/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> > which kernel? you need the perfect blend :)
> > e.g. i use a 2.6.28-rc4 with nwa. no a single freeze!
> >
> > On 8/28/09, Michele Brocco  wrote:
> >> On 8/26/09, Nicola Mfb  wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Michele Brocco
> >>> wrote:
> >>> [...]
>  For me in SHR-U with mofi wifi reconnects after resume (just with the
>  same essid however). It just doesnt re-request a dhcp lease, have to
>  call udhcpc manually then. Does the dhcp-lease re-request after
>  re-connection to the AP work for u guys?
> >>>
> >>> Try NWA, it listens for a wpa_supplicant dbus signal occourring when
> >>> the network status changes, in the case of disconnection/reassociation
> >>> it respawns the dhcp client. That's typical in a suspend/resume cycle.
> >>>
> >> Unfortunately NWA does not find any network here. And when i start it
> >> sequentially more than one time all my phone freezes.
> >> Any clues?
> >> Btw. I like the qtgui!
> >>
> I am running 2.6.29-rc3 from the SHR-U repositories. So that might be
> the reason. Maybe i will have a try if I find the kernel image and
> modules somewhere to download.
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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Alex Teiche]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Robin Paulson wrote:

> 2009/9/1 Alex Teiche :
> > A message on the front of the Wiki would be nice.
>
> i use the wiki perhaps 2/3 times a week. i haven't been to the front
> page in months
>

Better idea?


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Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/1/09, Tom Yates  wrote:
> i have blanked it out (though i had to edit the file by hand for
> that as the GUI won't take an empty value, saying it must be a number)

Oh, that's bug. Fixing it now, thanks for mentioning that ;)

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Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On 9/1/09, Matthias Huber  wrote:
>
>>> wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli?
>>>
>>
>>
>> good idea. please have a look at [1] where redesign of shr phone apps
>> is being drafted. feel free to contribute there,
>>
>> petr
>>
>>
>> [1]http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/phoneui
>>
>>
>
> ... and for the moment, as i think, it should be only the edje-file, can
> someone help me to make the button green and the release button red ?
>
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In edc files, in button definitions (it's easy to find them out):

Green:
color: 0 255 0 255;

Red:
color: 255 0 0 255;

But probably that won't look so good.

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Re: Nokia N900

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that
is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT
software.

If it were applications... you can live without them. Important drivers
you can't.

This is just to show the fallacy value of "it only 2%". Not all
parts are of equal worth.

Remove those 2% right now and then come back with the experience results.

Rui

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:52:20AM +0800, yangm wrote:
> As I known about N810, 98% code is open.
> some driver (such as wifi driver), some core component (such as
> connectivityManager) are private code.
> 
> It's a really difficault work to write private code without break GPL.
> 
> 2009/9/1 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:00:32PM +0200, Nicola Mfb wrote:
> > > Just found the older n800 is supported by OE and mamona runs on it,
> > > but I did never care about that and google does not help very much in
> > > understanding how much the device is "open".
> >
> > Or how much it is not open (a lot WRT drivers):
> >
> > http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages

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Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?

[Robin Paulson]

2009/9/1 Alex Teiche :
> A message on the front of the Wiki would be nice.

i use the wiki perhaps 2/3 times a week. i haven't been to the front
page in months

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Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer

[Matthias Huber]

>> wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli?
>> 
>
>
> good idea. please have a look at [1] where redesign of shr phone apps
> is being drafted. feel free to contribute there,
>
> petr
>
>
> [1]http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/phoneui
>
>   

... and for the moment, as i think, it should be only the edje-file, can
someone help me to make the button green and the release button red ?

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