[CGUYS] How do I play WVX on OS 10.4 Macs ?
I have a customer that is an all Mac business and they want to know how to play streaming or otherwise, WVX file formatted audio/video on their OS 10.4.x Macs. I have tried flip 4 Mac WMV , DivX, Windows media player (Mac version 9). I am able to get the video, but no sound. According to one Google search: A .wvx file is a Windows Media Redirector file. The only purpose of this file is to redirect you to Windows Media files like WMV files. The below link is one such item they wish to see and hear. http://agriculture.edgeboss.net/wmedia/agriculture/ 07-24-07_pressconference.wvx Any help is appreciated. Phil Marchetti * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Firefox f-up
1. How do you know it was the version you thought you trashed? - It offered to re-open tabs from my last session and my bookmarks didn't need to be imported. 2. Weren't you installing the same version anyway (presumably the most recent, 2.0.0.5)? - Same version. I was hoping that with a new program installation it would be like installing FF for the first time. 3. You are probably confusing the profile or configuration with the software. You can change the Firefox software and keep the same profile, with the same plugins, bookmarks, history, etc. - I was. I guess I should have trashed the configuration too. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- End of Forwarded Message * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
Steve, WADR, none of your reasons sound even remotely right. I would suggest: 1. Development of market share is a choatic process which entails a great sensitivity to initial conditions. You can almost never trace market outcomes (especially when there are oligarchis tendencies) in a simple way to buyer preferences. 2. I have been pricing/buying pc's since the early 90's and never bought a Mac. (until last year). Reason 1: PC' were used at work Reason 2: Price (as well as price of peripeherals) Reason 3: availability of software (not necessarily quality of software) Btw, Since the earliest days Dos-Windows has always been considered unstable and the x86 chipset a real hack with its segmented memory architecture. Btw, I think one of the reasons that Mac-PC debate is so acrimonious is because it folds in real class differences. I was a grunt in the computer industry for five years before I started to get any decent income. Speaking from experience, if you have to save months or longer to buy a computer (and they were expensive in the early days) the price difference between Mac and PC was significant and the TCO arguments irrelevant..(Apple peripeheral were also more expensive). I am by no means a Windows (or Intel) fan-boy. But in my gut, when the tone of advocacy for apples attempts to make a necessary decision (ie, buying a pc because I didn't want to wait save an additional month or two) sound like a dumb decision, I am extremely uncomfortable and understand why this is such a explosive debate.. The flip side of the coin, is that historically Wintel partisans tend to cast Apple users as frivolous, unsophisticated (perhaps unmanly?). What did Rodney King say? Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 26, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Tony B wrote: This is such a badly constructed sentence I can't be sure if you're dissing Apple or Windows. :) Okay. The sentence was not well put together. I was not dissing either, but I was searching for the reason that Mac did not gain the market share that Windows machines have. Windows folks quite often appear to loathe the Mac as much as Mac users often appear want to avoid the Windows platform. So, to rephrase my original sentence, does Apple not have the market share enjoyed by Windows machines because purchasers of computers think the Macs are not only horribly ugly, but are just plain lousy to begin with, or is it because the Mac OS over the years has been perceived to be unstable and therefore almost useless? Or, is it because Apple did not zero in on the office and business environment primarily at the outset, and instead appealed to the more artistically inclined computer user. Or, was there some other primary reason, such as not licensing out, except for a short time, the manufacturing of the machines that the Mac OS runs on? I can assure you that there are as many, and probably many more Windows fanboys than there are Mac fanboys. I have been informed by numerous Windows users that they would never even consider buying a Mac. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] iPhone and Duke and Cisco Wireless
Kevin Miller, he of not Cisco's fault, no way, no how fame, has posted an explanation of his remarks on his blog at http://www.emillers.org/blog/kevinm/2007/07/fin.html. I'll quote the pertinent portion: I am aware of the incongruity between some quotations in the original article and the ultimate problem resolution. I regret these inaccuracies. It was not my intent to convey a definitive message at that stage of the troubleshooting. Huh? Whaddhe say? -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone and Duke and Cisco Wireless
He said he was www...www...wrr...w.. Mike On 7/28/07, Roger D. Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Miller, he of not Cisco's fault, no way, no how fame, has posted an explanation of his remarks on his blog at http://www.emillers.org/blog/kevinm/2007/07/fin.html. I'll quote the pertinent portion: I am aware of the incongruity between some quotations in the original article and the ultimate problem resolution. I regret these inaccuracies. It was not my intent to convey a definitive message at that stage of the troubleshooting. Huh? Whaddhe say? -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
Oh that great philosopher...'can't we all just get along?' On 7/28/07, Paul Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What did Rodney King say? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How do I play WVX on OS 10.4 Macs ?
VLC seems to be a good tool for a wide variety of media. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html I could not get audio from the stream or the downloaded video . I can't help wondering if the the fault lies with the source or if the audio is coded in an unreadable (windows only?) fashion. You could check WMP for Mac: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/mac/mp9/default.aspx I'm sure others will have better info. Phil Marchetti wrote: I have a customer that is an all Mac business and they want to know how to play streaming or otherwise, WVX file formatted audio/video on their OS 10.4.x Macs. I have tried flip 4 Mac WMV , DivX, Windows media player (Mac version 9). I am able to get the video, but no sound. According to one Google search: A .wvx file is a Windows Media Redirector file. The only purpose of this file is to redirect you to Windows Media files like WMV files. The below link is one such item they wish to see and hear. http://agriculture.edgeboss.net/wmedia/agriculture/07-24-07_pressconference.wvx Any help is appreciated. Phil Marchetti * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How do I play WVX on OS 10.4 Macs ?
Phil Marchetti I have a customer that is an all Mac business and they want to know how to play streaming or otherwise, WVX file formatted audio/video on their OS 10.4.x Macs. I also tried VLC and didn't get anywhere along with Visual Hub, no luck on either front. Then I opened the file in a text editor, it looks to be a text file. In your original message you mentioned a redirector, yup could be. Maybe someone with a PC can capture the stream for them... Good luck. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I am always exact and precise, more or less. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
The flip side of the coin, is that historically Wintel partisans tend to cast Apple users as frivolous, unsophisticated (perhaps unmanly?). So true. The first word that comes into the mind of an Apple cognoscenti at the sight of a Windows PC is squalid. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone and Duke and Cisco Wireless
It has been a while since I've had to translate something like this but I think it's close to, I shot my mouth off, I'm sorry and please don't sue me. On 7/28/07, Roger D. Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Miller, he of not Cisco's fault, no way, no how fame, has posted an explanation of his remarks on his blog at http://www.emillers.org/blog/kevinm/2007/07/fin.html. I'll quote the pertinent portion: I am aware of the incongruity between some quotations in the original article and the ultimate problem resolution. I regret these inaccuracies. It was not my intent to convey a definitive message at that stage of the troubleshooting. Huh? Whaddhe say? -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
On Jul 28, 2007, at 8:23 AM, Paul Meyer wrote: Steve, WADR, none of your reasons sound even remotely right. I would suggest: I must tell you that I was being quite ridiculous on purpose to a fair degree. 2. I have been pricing/buying pc's since the early 90's and never bought a Mac. (until last year). Reason 1: PC' were used at work Reason 2: Price (as well as price of peripeherals) Reason 3: availability of software (not necessarily quality of software) I fully agree with this point. DOS machines were for the office crowd, they were less costly and they had the business software available. Also, everybody and their brother was making DOS machines, and the same applies today for Windows machines. The market was/is flooded. Btw, Since the earliest days Dos-Windows has always been considered unstable and the x86 chipset a real hack with its segmented memory architecture. i know. Again, I was being intentionally silly when suggesting that the Mac OS was perceived to be historically flaky. Btw, I think one of the reasons that Mac-PC debate is so acrimonious is because it folds in real class differences. I was a grunt in the computer industry for five years before I started to get any decent income. What class differences are you referring to? Income levels? The nature of work that one buys a PC to do versus a Mac? The iconoclast versus the lemmings, no insult intended? I gravitated from the Atari line to the Mac, and I feel it was primarily because the Atari was more Mac-like than PC-like that I made that decision. The Mac was considered to be the better graphics machine, and that was/is my line of work. Speaking from experience, if you have to save months or longer to buy a computer (and they were expensive in the early days) the price difference between Mac and PC was significant and the TCO arguments irrelevant..(Apple peripeheral were also more expensive). Agreed. The flip side of the coin, is that historically Wintel partisans tend to cast Apple users as frivolous, unsophisticated (perhaps unmanly?). Agreed. If by unmanly and unsophisticated you mean to say that Mac users are not often having to get out the tool box to go under the hood and fix things, then I'll live with those terms. What did Rodney King say? Hey, I love my Windows brothers and sisters. I just hate to hear that their computer is down again, or that it is running slow again and it has only been a couple of weeks since the tech last fixed that problem. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
On Jul 28, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: So true. The first word that comes into the mind of an Apple cognoscenti at the sight of a Windows PC is squalid. Ouch! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
What class differences are you referring to? Income levels? The nature of work that one buys a PC to do versus a Mac? The iconoclast versus the lemmings, no insult intended? Did you see any of the TV interviews with the guy who did the cluster analysis about how hanging with fat people will greatly increase the odds of your getting fat? Did you notice the brand of computer he used to diaplay his cluster chart? Did you catch the News Hour interview with Matt Groening of Simpsons fame? Did you notice the brand of computer he did his work on? Etc. Etc. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
Sorry, I suspected you were indulging in rhetorical hyperbole. The danger of email is that without emoticons the affect of the writer is totally flat (i.e., without spelling it out, hard express sarcasm) I think the class differences are sometimes sociological and sometimes contextual. My parents were poor new class (well educated, not much income) so I got sent to college without a type writer, let alone a computer (I knew there was this really cool thing called word-processing but I didn't go to a school where you had access to computers..., not uncommon for middle class kids in the stone age, let alone bring one to college). For the first 5 years of working in computing all my training was informal and for that time I was essentially a serf in a NYC consulting firm. Technical fields are traditionally an avenue of social advancement because they rely on specialized skills not dependent on background (contrast with service professions). Immigrants, kids from blue-collar or rural families etc. get drawn to engineering as a profession for obvious reasons. Even here there are factors affecting income and professional status, ie, formal vs on-the-job training, associate v bachelors v graduate degree. Do you own your business or were in a job setting where an employer would spring for hardware and/or training? My only real point is that even in as affluent and celebrated a sector as high tech there are lots of folks struggling, if not just to get by, then struggling to get ahead (I think we forget that in a dynamic business those things can be the same thing). -P * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
PS Exactly to your point, I also forgot to mention that yes another difference between mac and pc users. Mac users often were established professionals looking for the right tool, the best value. That implies that they were already established well enough to invest their own careers/productive assets. Code monkeys who want to pick a saleable new skill by tinkering at night at home bought pc's (mea culpa). Paul Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I suspected you were indulging in rhetorical hyperbole. The danger of email is that without emoticons the affect of the writer is totally flat (i.e., without spelling it out, hard express sarcasm) I think the class differences are sometimes sociological and sometimes contextual. My parents were poor new class (well educated, not much income) so I got sent to college without a type writer, let alone a computer (I knew there was this really cool thing called word-processing but I didn't go to a school where you had access to computers..., not uncommon for middle class kids in the stone age, let alone bring one to college). For the first 5 years of working in computing all my training was informal and for that time I was essentially a serf in a NYC consulting firm. Technical fields are traditionally an avenue of social advancement because they rely on specialized skills not dependent on background (contrast with service professions). Immigrants, kids from blue-collar or rural families etc. get drawn to engineering as a profession for obvious reasons. Even here there are factors affecting income and professional status, ie, formal vs on-the-job training, associate v bachelors v graduate degree. Do you own your business or were in a job setting where an employer would spring for hardware and/or training? My only real point is that even in as affluent and celebrated a sector as high tech there are lots of folks struggling, if not just to get by, then struggling to get ahead (I think we forget that in a dynamic business those things can be the same thing). -P * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
On Jul 28, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Paul Meyer wrote: PS Exactly to your point, I also forgot to mention that yes another difference between mac and pc users. Mac users often were established professionals looking for the right tool, the best value. That implies that they were already established well enough to invest their own careers/productive assets. Well, I cannot say how well established I was as a graphics person, but I did use my own monetary assets to purchase all my gear, and I knew that I wanted Macintosh. Actually, I could not afford exactly the machines I wanted and that would best suit my needs, so I bought used equipment instead which served me quite well, and still do. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
On Jul 28, 2007, at 3:50 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Did you see any of the TV interviews with the guy who did the cluster analysis about how hanging with fat people will greatly increase the odds of your getting fat? Did you notice the brand of computer he used to diaplay his cluster chart? Did you catch the News Hour interview with Matt Groening of Simpsons fame? Did you notice the brand of computer he did his work on? Etc. Etc. Didn't see any of either, but I get your drift. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
But, I read somewhere the profit was from iPods stuff, not iPhone which, disappointed ...their words! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
If I understand the hubbub on the Iphone it was released just before the end of the quarter and they only counted those which had been sold during the quarter. But for a device that is also a Cell phone it has sold a very huge amount compared to the many models sold by Nokia, Motoroloa, LG and the slim number of smartphones out there. And that is sold by one individual carrier where most of these cell's are sold by a variety of carriers. Stewart At 07:21 PM 7/28/2007, you wrote: But, I read somewhere the profit was from iPods stuff, not iPhone which, disappointed ...their words! Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
The discrepancy may be for people who bought the iPhone and use it with PAYGO. That wouldn't register as a regular ATT account, since you don't have to give personal information to sign up. The phone can't be opened to switch SIM cards, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's been done successfully, either by reprogramming externally or opening the iPhone and voiding the warranty [safer than putting it in a blender]. Does it have a SIM? Betty There were discrepancies between numbers ATT posted of Iphone sales and numbers Apple posted of I phone sales. When it all boiled down it seems Apple may have included # shipped by end of quarter and ATT counted actual number sold by end of quarter and the difference was in inventory still in transit. The number was significant, about 100,000 phones, with Apple reporting 250,000 (approx) and ATT reporting less than 150,000. So you can understand the panic. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
Yes, all AT$T phones do. Mike On 7/28/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it have a SIM? Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Posts Record Quarterly Profit
Come on, Mark. Maybe 2% is all the Mac visitors to Tony's site. The rest aren't interested in going there. That's his stats, not Apple's reality. Sounds like sour grapes. I'm buying a new MacBook so I can run multiple OS's and do some artwork. My husband replaced his iBook with a Compaq because all he does is surf and do word processing, and he can get it for $200 after rebates. Neither of us have been to Tony's site with either computer to affect his stats. Betty Snyder, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any scintilla of fact to back this up? Every statement looks to be contrary to facts I have seen. Mark Snyder -Original Message- That doesn't matter much though because Apple makes money on hardware, not software. I'm sure they are very happy to sell macs that will primarily run windows. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
