Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/filmdig.htm A good if not long article on the subject. Some highlights. *Neither is better on an absolute basis. The choice depends on your application. Once you know your application the debate goes away. The debate only exists when people presume erroneously that someone else's needs mirror their own.* *If and only if you're an accomplished artist who can extract every last drop from film's quality then film, meaning large format film, technically is better than digital in every way. Few people have the skill to work film out to this level, thus the debate. * On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:23 AM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jan 25, 2010, at 12:53 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > > Can't you think of anything about working with film that is of use in >> digital photography? >> > > Nope. Nothing. > > I learned more about gamma after spending 30 minutes with Digital Darkroom > than I did after spending 3 months dicking around with polycontrast filters. > Doing it the old way is just plain stupid. > > Knowing about film defects is of zero use. Digital cameras do not attempt > to mimic film. That is a silly notion. Film has no advantages over digital. > Not one. Zero. You can't name any. > > Don't knock the auto setting. It produces great results 99% of the time. > The first thing I did with my digital camera is to go out and take lots of > pictures set at auto under terrible conditions. I was amazed at how well it > did. If you use the camera;s scene settings to communicate your intent it > gets even better. The latest cameras can even detect smiles and people with > closed eyes. Don't knock auto! > > Any special effects one may have done in camera years ago are better > accomplished by taking a good photo and them mangling it in Photoshop. > > On the other hand there are tons of things specific to digital cameras that > a student should be learning. Why waste time on the useless when there is so > much useful to learn? > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:33 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Do you know how to dodge a photo? Overexpose to make it look better, underexpose it to get certain effects. Double expose to get a different effect. You don't learn that unless you start off loading film into canisters!! Nonsense, you create a mask in Photoshop. You get lots more control that you ever got with dodge and burn. Back in film days the equivalent was creating an internegative mask. I'm glad those days are over. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] YouTube videos
On Jan 25, 2010, at 12:23 AM, b_s-wilk wrote: I made the mistake of using iMovie instead of Final Cut. Do I need to start over? Is there an export setting that works? So far, after trying to export 3 times, they all look terrible, but original video looks excellent, even on a 42" TV. iMovie is not a mistake. Many podcast producers use iMovie because it can get the job done much faster. It should be perfectly fine for YouTube. You did not provide enough detail to judge what you problem really is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 25, 2010, at 12:53 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Can't you think of anything about working with film that is of use in digital photography? Nope. Nothing. I learned more about gamma after spending 30 minutes with Digital Darkroom than I did after spending 3 months dicking around with polycontrast filters. Doing it the old way is just plain stupid. Knowing about film defects is of zero use. Digital cameras do not attempt to mimic film. That is a silly notion. Film has no advantages over digital. Not one. Zero. You can't name any. Don't knock the auto setting. It produces great results 99% of the time. The first thing I did with my digital camera is to go out and take lots of pictures set at auto under terrible conditions. I was amazed at how well it did. If you use the camera;s scene settings to communicate your intent it gets even better. The latest cameras can even detect smiles and people with closed eyes. Don't knock auto! Any special effects one may have done in camera years ago are better accomplished by taking a good photo and them mangling it in Photoshop. On the other hand there are tons of things specific to digital cameras that a student should be learning. Why waste time on the useless when there is so much useful to learn? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:16 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:01 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Completely useless? How so? How does he feel about the experience? > > No I'm not going there. If you think learning to load film into a developing > tank is a useful skill, you are going to have to defend it. Let's not begin by suggesting that loading developing tanks is the only skill associated with film worthy of mention. Can't you think of anything about working with film that is of use in digital photography? I can tell you that knowing what images captured on film can look like, as well as techniques used in the darkroom and what those techniques accomplish, is extremely useful knowledge in the world of digital photography. After all, digital photography is, for the most part, an attempt to mimic film and is typically measured against what can be achieved with that older medium. Obsolete in the eyes of many, film remains the gold standard in the art of photography. Film has advantages over digital, and if one is familiar with those advantages by way of experience gained by using film, that knowledge can influence and guide a digital photographer to do better work. I've been around loads of people who take pictures, pros as well as amateurs, back in the heyday of film as well as today in the digital world. Folks who shot film, even those folks who only took snapshots, knew and understood a lot more about what they were doing back in the day than do most digital shooters of today. For instance, they understood and could therefore anticipate over and under exposure, they knew about depth of field and how to use it to good effect, and they knew about the various film size formats and what was best for certain occasions. Most digital shooters don't have a clue about any of that stuff, will never take their camera off the "Auto" setting, and will let the camera make every decision about every shot they ever take. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] YouTube videos
What's the best format and easiest way to go from DV cam to upload to youtube? I made the mistake of using iMovie instead of Final Cut. Do I need to start over? Is there an export setting that works? So far, after trying to export 3 times, they all look terrible, but original video looks excellent, even on a 42" TV. Software, format, export settings, please. Video is DV. Intel iMac. thx Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Yah GC is good, no windows version AFAIK...IRFAN view is out there though. Pretty good for windows. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: >I showed my mom Graphic Converter. It's for the Mac, don't know if > they have a Windows version. And it's cheap. I think it was $25, but might > be more now. She uses it all the time. I finally got her off of using > iPhoto. > > > Jeff Miles > jmile...@charter.net > > Join my Mafia > http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 > > On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: > > > At 09:19 AM 1/24/2010, Tony B wrote: > >> none of them even know how to resize a digital > >> photo for posting, much less how to adjust a lens. > > > > What is the best process for resizing a digital photograph? What > application does one use? I presume that the high-end photo-manipulators > all do a good job, but what if someone doesn't want to spring big bucks for > CS and its ilk? > > > > Fred Holmes > > > > > > * > > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > > * > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Pretty much the build in stuff in any OS can manage a simple resizing...AFAIK. I've never had a problem. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: > At 09:19 AM 1/24/2010, Tony B wrote: > >none of them even know how to resize a digital > >photo for posting, much less how to adjust a lens. > > What is the best process for resizing a digital photograph? What > application does one use? I presume that the high-end photo-manipulators > all do a good job, but what if someone doesn't want to spring big bucks for > CS and its ilk? > > Fred Holmes > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
I showed my mom Graphic Converter. It's for the Mac, don't know if they have a Windows version. And it's cheap. I think it was $25, but might be more now. She uses it all the time. I finally got her off of using iPhoto. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: > At 09:19 AM 1/24/2010, Tony B wrote: >> none of them even know how to resize a digital >> photo for posting, much less how to adjust a lens. > > What is the best process for resizing a digital photograph? What application > does one use? I presume that the high-end photo-manipulators all do a good > job, but what if someone doesn't want to spring big bucks for CS and its ilk? > > Fred Holmes > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
I don't recall its name, but there was an "infrared" film that was used to detect camouflage (or items that were being camouflaged). While the camouflage fooled the naked eye, it didn't fool this film. It could also be used for "special effects." Fred Holmes At 11:47 AM 1/24/2010, Robert Carroll wrote: >I can't remember the name of a Kodak color slide film that rendered false >colors. For example, a blue sky would appear reddish pink, and nearly every >color was replaced by a greatly differing color. This was way before >Photoshop which can do the same thing to a normal image. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
At 09:19 AM 1/24/2010, Tony B wrote: >none of them even know how to resize a digital >photo for posting, much less how to adjust a lens. What is the best process for resizing a digital photograph? What application does one use? I presume that the high-end photo-manipulators all do a good job, but what if someone doesn't want to spring big bucks for CS and its ilk? Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Had one of those myself. ca. 1950. Marvelous camera. Took lots of good pictures on Kodachrome, Ektachrome, and B/W. B/W was called Pan-X, Plus-X and Tri-X IIRC, but I'm having trouble really remembering it. Fred Holmes At 08:28 PM 1/20/2010, Marcio wrote: >Back thereI received several prizes in photo contests with the Argus C3. > >Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Tom doesn't understand the art part behind photography, only the mechanics of taking digital photos. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 9:16 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:01 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Completely useless? How so? How does he feel about the experience? >> > > No I'm not going there. If you think learning to load film into a > developing tank is a useful skill, you are going to have to defend it. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Film is not dead. It may have died in the consumer level but it is still used in commercial production. If your child is going to make it in the photography field he has to learn from the ground up. It is like getting a CIS degree and not know how the stupid machine works or is built. By the way if he does get picked up in the photography filed you know what some of his first assignments will be? Working in the stupid darkroom. Do you know how to dodge a photo? Overexpose to make it look better, underexpose it to get certain effects. Double expose to get a different effect. You don't learn that unless you start off loading film into canisters!! (By the way there are tricks of the trade learned in this useless assignment also, pushing film to correct exposure when taking it etc. He better know his stuff to make it in the filed. Stewart At 10:16 PM 1/24/2010, you wrote: On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:01 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Completely useless? How so? How does he feel about the experience? No I'm not going there. If you think learning to load film into a developing tank is a useful skill, you are going to have to defend it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:01 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Completely useless? How so? How does he feel about the experience? No I'm not going there. If you think learning to load film into a developing tank is a useful skill, you are going to have to defend it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
You still have the submarine? Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Robert Carroll wrote: > Marcio wrote: >> I started with the Argus C3. Anyone remember? >> >> Marcio >> >> > > I remember, although I never owned the C3. I had an Argus C44, and still do. > This was followed by my first SLR, a Topcon RE Super. It had a removable > prism to change the view screen, and was the only camera that could be fitted > to the periscope in a US Navy submarine. Still have it also. Also have a > Mamiya SLR and a Pentax Super ME. All still work. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 2:49 PM, tjpa wrote: > I was quite upset to find that the photography class my son was taking > wasted many hours teaching them how to develop film and make prints in the > darkroom. Completely useless skills. Completely useless? How so? How does he feel about the experience? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
I don't know if that was it's original intent, but that's what I use it for. It's great for shooting things in motion. Such a case was my visit to the butterfly garden in Victoria Canada. Even while sitting on a leaf they'd keep moving their wings. This was very annoying, trying to get that perfect shot, till I put it in burst mode. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 24, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Tony B wrote: > Is THAT what burst mode is good for? I read about it when I got my > camera but it seemed useless. > > Agreed on the ridiculous number of people getting DSLRs these days. > This past christmas we had several more local housewives get them as > gifts, and of course none of them even know how to resize a digital > photo for posting, much less how to adjust a lens. They're trying to > start a local camera club to teach them some things, but I don't hold > out great hope. > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Jeff Miles wrote: >>I no longer use a SLR. And no longer being a professional I didn't >> buy into a DSLR. Instead I have a Lumix FZ18. It has a "burst" mode which >> takes 3-4 (don't remember which right now) shots. This works great for group >> portraits. Oh, and the Lumix FZ18 has an 18x Leica optical zoom lens. Very >> nice. Another reason I decided to bag going for interchangeable lenses on a >> DSLR. I couldn't rationalize the cost on the very few instances I might need >> something different. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buried by an Earthquake? -- There's an app for that
So we can have an app tells how to *save lives*, but not one that might spell out the word shit? On Jan 24, 2010 8:43 PM, "betty" wrote: iPhone app is Pocket First Aid and CPR, $3.99. Betty -- "telecommuting" is just another way of saying "lying naked with your laptop on the front lawn." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Buried by an Earthquake? -- There's an app for that
iPhone app is Pocket First Aid and CPR, $3.99. Betty -- "telecommuting" is just another way of saying "lying naked with your laptop on the front lawn." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Roger D. Parish wrote: At 11:47 AM -0500 1/24/10, Robert Carroll wrote: [snippage] I can't remember the name of a Kodak color slide film that rendered false colors. For example, a blue sky would appear reddish pink, and nearly every color was replaced by a greatly differing color. This was way before Photoshop which can do the same thing to a normal image. I don't remember the name, either, but I believe it was an infrared film. After the first roll of snapshots using this strange film, the novelty was gone. But the challenge was to make a "good" image that just might cause the viewer to first linger, then puzzle over, the altered colors of the film. For example, a photo of a red rose would be rendered as a yellow rose -- not remarkable. If one carefully planned the photo, the altered colors would at first appear normal until the viewer noticed a small portion of the image that wasn't right. This, hopefully, would lead to a careful examination of the photo to see more and more colors that were unexpected. The goal was to make the viewer be completely puzzled about the meaning of the photo. In my youth, I liked to do things like that with the photos that I took. For example, I searched for and bought a chess set that had the chess board with black squares & white squares. The chess pieces were ivory-colored plastic, so I painted each of them with gray paint. Putting the chess pieces on the board & illuminating with photo lamps (this was long ago) so that there was no shadows, I photographed the black, gray, and white image with color film. First image was as described, second image was same but my hand wearing a bright red long-sleeved shirt reaching for a chess piece, third image was of the chess board with one piece moved. When printed, all three images were displayed in a row. The viewer must puzzle how a color image (shirt & hand) appears in a B&W photo. These images can now be done easily with Photoshop, but when I was doing this the Apple computer was a decade away from being invented. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Actually I just like making you dance on command. On Jan 24, 2010 7:44 PM, "t.piwowar" wrote: On Jan 24, 2010, at 5:25 PM, mike wrote: > > So your son took a class called 'digital photography' a... There goes Mike again. Trying to respond to CGUYS posts while simultaneously in three chat rooms, streaming youtube and hulu videos, shopping for gaiters at five different online stores, reading four other emails, playing a video game, and fighting off a real-life polar bear that just broke into his living room. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 24, 2010, at 5:25 PM, mike wrote: So your son took a class called 'digital photography' and then they made him learn about developing? There goes Mike again. Trying to respond to CGUYS posts while simultaneously in three chat rooms, streaming youtube and hulu videos, shopping for gaiters at five different online stores, reading four other emails, playing a video game, and fighting off a real-life polar bear that just broke into his living room. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
There is an app for that. Comes from FT. Sill home of Army Field Artillery. Hoaah! :-) Stewart At 02:07 PM 1/24/2010, you wrote: You wanted him to learn how to fire howitzers? On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:49 PM, tjpa wrote: > I was quite upset to find that the photography class my son was taking > wasted many hours teaching them how to develop film and make prints in the > darkroom. Completely useless skills. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
One can learn to anticipate a lag of a few 1/10s of a second. A lag of 2 or 3 seconds is a completely different matter requiring the photographer to become a fortune teller. I borrowed a Nikon for a vacation that had such a lag and found it completely impossible for candid photos. I have such a Nikon. I use the "burst" or "sports" mode [similar] and have almost no lag to worry about. It's been great for candid and street photos, as long as you don't have to focus for a closeup. My first camera, after the ancient box camera and my Dad's Certo Dollina 35mm, was a [Honeywell] Pentax H1a--no light meter, 3 lenses, autowinder. We weren't allowed to use cameras with internal light meters for the photography courses I took. I really like BW Tri-X 400 for its versatility. Also BW and color slides were easy/cheap to process myself in the lab, but color prints weren't. The H1a got badly smashed up after it was dropped for the 100+ time. I replaced it with an Asahi Pentax K1000 which I still use from time to time. I had real problems with my husband's Canon TLB and a Nikon F2 mostly because they're so heavy. We always traveled with the Pentax even though its wood-lined leather case was heavy, just not as much as the Canon or Nikon alone. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
So your son took a class called 'digital photography' and then they made him learn about developing? On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:49 PM, tjpa wrote: > On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Robert Carroll wrote: > >> My daughter three years ago took photography in high school. There they >> still use B&W film in cameras and learn to develop and print in a darkroom. >> I loaned her my Pentax Super ME to take the class. >> > > I was quite upset to find that the photography class my son was taking > wasted many hours teaching them how to develop film and make prints in the > darkroom. Completely useless skills. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
It's always credible to learn the history and art behind the work you are doing. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:09 PM, tjpa wrote: > On Jan 24, 2010, at 3:07 PM, mike wrote: > >> You wanted him to learn how to fire howitzers? >> > > That would have been more useful. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 24, 2010, at 3:07 PM, mike wrote: You wanted him to learn how to fire howitzers? That would have been more useful. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] SOS -- Outlook Express Destroying Emails as soon as they're opened
On Jan 24, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Gail Miller wrote: Suddenly -- this morning -- My Outlook Express destroys each email that it optns. It will show up in the "search" function (in a box) but it cannot open the file from there. We recently did a test and once opened it disappeared. It shows in the result box of the search function as in the 'INBOX" but it is clearly not there. You need to tell us lots more. Are you accessing via POP or IMAP? If POP is it set to delete on transfer? Have you tried using a more reliable client (anything not from M$)? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Buried by an Earthquake? -- There's an app for that
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/24/haiti.survivor.phone.app/ "Trapped in the ruins of the Hotel Montana in Port-au-Prince... The application on his iPhone is filled with information about first aid and CPR from the American Heart Association. "So I knew I wasn't making mistakes," Woolley said. "That gave me confidence to treat my wounds properly." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] SOS -- Outlook Express Destroying Emails as soon as they're opened
Close OE. Search for files with the suffix .dbx and move them to a seperate folder. Open OE and it should automatically rebuild the .dbx files. If it doesn't you will need to replace the .dbx files to their previous locations. This is my best bet. Good luck. - Original Message - From: "Gail Miller" To: Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: [CGUYS] SOS -- Outlook Express Destroying Emails as soon as they're opened Suddenly -- this morning -- My Outlook Express destroys each email that it optns. It will show up in the "search" function (in a box) but it cannot open the file from there. We recently did a test and once opened it disappeared. It shows in the result box of the search function as in the 'INBOX" but it is clearly not there. WHAT to do? A couple of these are important!! As usual, thanks in advance for sharing your wisdom! Gail Miller * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPod connection
USB On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote: > Do any of the current iPods connect via firewire or are they all solely USB > 2 now? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] iPod connection
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Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
I used to have a nice amplifier to enlarge the photos and I could do many tricks in the dark room. And there were many kinds of developpers for films and papers and many kinds of papers. Great. Marcio -Original Message- >From: tjpa >Sent: Jan 24, 2010 5:49 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag > >On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Robert Carroll wrote: >> My daughter three years ago took photography in high school. There >> they still use B&W film in cameras and learn to develop and print in >> a darkroom. I loaned her my Pentax Super ME to take the class. > >I was quite upset to find that the photography class my son was taking >wasted many hours teaching them how to develop film and make prints in >the darkroom. Completely useless skills. > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] SOS -- Outlook Express Destroying Emails as soon as they're opened
Suddenly -- this morning -- My Outlook Express destroys each email that it optns. It will show up in the "search" function (in a box) but it cannot open the file from there. We recently did a test and once opened it disappeared. It shows in the result box of the search function as in the 'INBOX" but it is clearly not there. WHAT to do? A couple of these are important!! As usual, thanks in advance for sharing your wisdom! Gail Miller * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 24, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Jeff Miles wrote: This isn't quite correct. I've been a professional photographer for almost 30 years. I retired from it professionally full time a few years back. Anyway, unless you lock up the mirror on your SLR you've got lag time. Many cheaper SLRs didn't have this capability. But the photographer did something strange, they got to know their camera. And as someone mentioned earlier, they learn to anticipate. One can learn to anticipate a lag of a few 1/10s of a second. A lag of 2 or 3 seconds is a completely different matter requiring the photographer to become a fortune teller. I borrowed a Nikon for a vacation that had such a lag and found it completely impossible for candid photos. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
You wanted him to learn how to fire howitzers? On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:49 PM, tjpa wrote: > On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Robert Carroll wrote: > >> My daughter three years ago took photography in high school. There they >> still use B&W film in cameras and learn to develop and print in a darkroom. >> I loaned her my Pentax Super ME to take the class. >> > > I was quite upset to find that the photography class my son was taking > wasted many hours teaching them how to develop film and make prints in the > darkroom. Completely useless skills. > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Robert Carroll wrote: My daughter three years ago took photography in high school. There they still use B&W film in cameras and learn to develop and print in a darkroom. I loaned her my Pentax Super ME to take the class. I was quite upset to find that the photography class my son was taking wasted many hours teaching them how to develop film and make prints in the darkroom. Completely useless skills. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: Damned if you do; damned if you don't
On Jan 24, 2010, at 12:09 PM, mike wrote: Or maybe it shouldn't be judgmental and just output the input. Did you read Google's explanation, which I think is a good one? They don't have enough confidence in the software. They want to avoid the situation where somebody said something perfectly sweet and it got translated to potty mouth. Just imagine what a field day the press would have with that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: Damned if you do; damned if you don't
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:49 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:31 AM, mike wrote: > > > Another case of political correctness run amok. Heaven forbid adults get > to > > say what they want. > > I would not think this situation to be directly related to political > correctness. This is another type of "correctness," rooted perhaps > more in religion and attendant social mores than in anything having to > do with politics. > > I suspect that this is a litigation avoidance strategy. I'm gonna sue you because you made me look like a potty mouth- so what if I am a potty mouth. Won't bother me because I never got any thing stronger than fecal material in my vocab. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
At 11:47 AM -0500 1/24/10, Robert Carroll wrote: [snippage] I can't remember the name of a Kodak color slide film that rendered false colors. For example, a blue sky would appear reddish pink, and nearly every color was replaced by a greatly differing color. This was way before Photoshop which can do the same thing to a normal image. I don't remember the name, either, but I believe it was an infrared film. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: Damned if you do; damned if you don't
Or maybe it shouldn't be judgmental and just output the input. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Steve at Verizon wrote: > There is a simple answer to this. The software should have a preference > setting. > One for, ask me: did you really mean to say the f word? > One for, I'm a foul mouth, don't ask. > > John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > >> One of the iPhone aps does the same thing. I think it is Dragon Naturally >> speaking. >> >> I would guess that Google Voice auto bowdlerizes as well.. >> >> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Tony B wrote: >> >> >> >>> Weird. We recently turned off the cuss filter on our forum, only to >>> have one of our *moderators* begin to cuss like crazy. :( >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:44 PM, tjp wrote: >>> >>> An interesting dilemma... "How Google's Nexus One censors cuss words" (and why) http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10440115-71.html >>> * >>> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >>> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >>> * >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: >> 271.1.1/2641 - Release Date: 01/23/10 14:33:00 >> >> >> > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: Damned if you do; damned if you don't
There is a simple answer to this. The software should have a preference setting. One for, ask me: did you really mean to say the f word? One for, I'm a foul mouth, don't ask. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: One of the iPhone aps does the same thing. I think it is Dragon Naturally speaking. I would guess that Google Voice auto bowdlerizes as well.. On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Tony B wrote: Weird. We recently turned off the cuss filter on our forum, only to have one of our *moderators* begin to cuss like crazy. :( On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:44 PM, tjp wrote: An interesting dilemma... "How Google's Nexus One censors cuss words" (and why) http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10440115-71.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2641 - Release Date: 01/23/10 14:33:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Marcio wrote: I used Panasonic X film had smal grains. Then we had Plus X. Good old days. When color came in I no longer could work in the lab.What a pain. Marcio I think the fine-grain B&W film was Kodak Panatomic. Speed ASA 25. Plus X had speed 100, Tri-X speed 400. I like shooting with B&W but wanted large grain film to give an illusion of pointillism. I used Kodak 2475 film with speed 1600, pushed to 3200. It was intended for police surveillance. It had a sensitivity to infrared light, so that portraits of people tended to show skin blemishes. Worked well for portraits of old people since the portrait was imbued with the concept of old age. I can't remember the name of a Kodak color slide film that rendered false colors. For example, a blue sky would appear reddish pink, and nearly every color was replaced by a greatly differing color. This was way before Photoshop which can do the same thing to a normal image. My daughter three years ago took photography in high school. There they still use B&W film in cameras and learn to develop and print in a darkroom. I loaned her my Pentax Super ME to take the class. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Marcio wrote: I started with the Argus C3. Anyone remember? Marcio I remember, although I never owned the C3. I had an Argus C44, and still do. This was followed by my first SLR, a Topcon RE Super. It had a removable prism to change the view screen, and was the only camera that could be fitted to the periscope in a US Navy submarine. Still have it also. Also have a Mamiya SLR and a Pentax Super ME. All still work. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Yes 35 mm, black and white. I used to develop and enlarge the pictures. Dou you know that they still seel her in E-Bay? You can see how it dominated inte scenario of photogtapphy in Wikipedia... Marcio -Original Message- >From: John Duncan Yoyo >Sent: Jan 24, 2010 1:32 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag > >The Argus was my dad's good camera. I shot and developed a little bit in >High School with it. > >On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Mike Sloane wrote: > >> Yes, back in the '50s, I ran a lot of B&W pan film through a C3 and >> developed it myself (I still have the negatives and prints somewhere...). >> Then I went to a Kodak Retina, which was "advanced" by comparison. The next >> was Pentax K1000 with a large bag full of lenses and accessories. When I >> retired, the company gave me a Minolta "Supreme" (point & shoot + zoom) >> which ended up taking the place of the Pentax 90% of the time. Now, of >> course, I use a digital camera (currently a Kodak Z710, which is a little >> bulky and slow, but has an excellent Schneider Varigon lens). That reminds >> me that I still have a half exposed roll of film in the Minolta... >> >> I have not been at all tempted to spend Big Bucks on a DSLR with >> interchangeable lenses. I am sure that, in the hands of a talented >> professional, they take great pictures, but I suspect that most of them are >> sold to yuppies who want to show off their disposable income. I also suspect >> that many of those never get taken out of the box. >> >> Mike >> >> >> Marcio wrote: >> >>> I started with the Argus C3. Anyone remember? >>> >>> Marcio >>> >>> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> > > > >-- >John Duncan Yoyo >---o) > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: Damned if you do; damned if you don't
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=politically%20correct I think the first definition is the best. Those who are too politically correct might find it offensive. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:49 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:31 AM, mike wrote: > > > Another case of political correctness run amok. Heaven forbid adults get > to > > say what they want. > > I would not think this situation to be directly related to political > correctness. This is another type of "correctness," rooted perhaps > more in religion and attendant social mores than in anything having to > do with politics. > > Steve > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
I used Panasonic X film had smal grains. Then we had Plus X. Good old days. When color came in I no longer could work in the lab.What a pain. Marcio -Original Message- >From: Mike Sloane >Sent: Jan 24, 2010 11:53 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag > >Yes, back in the '50s, I ran a lot of B&W pan film through a C3 and >developed it myself (I still have the negatives and prints >somewhere...). Then I went to a Kodak Retina, which was "advanced" by >comparison. The next was Pentax K1000 with a large bag full of lenses >and accessories. When I retired, the company gave me a Minolta "Supreme" >(point & shoot + zoom) which ended up taking the place of the Pentax 90% >of the time. Now, of course, I use a digital camera (currently a Kodak >Z710, which is a little bulky and slow, but has an excellent Schneider >Varigon lens). That reminds me that I still have a half exposed roll of >film in the Minolta... > >I have not been at all tempted to spend Big Bucks on a DSLR with >interchangeable lenses. I am sure that, in the hands of a talented >professional, they take great pictures, but I suspect that most of them >are sold to yuppies who want to show off their disposable income. I also >suspect that many of those never get taken out of the box. > >Mike > >Marcio wrote: >> I started with the Argus C3. Anyone remember? >> >> Marcio >> > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: Damned if you do; damned if you don't
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:31 AM, mike wrote: > Another case of political correctness run amok. Heaven forbid adults get to > say what they want. I would not think this situation to be directly related to political correctness. This is another type of "correctness," rooted perhaps more in religion and attendant social mores than in anything having to do with politics. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: Damned if you do; damned if you don't
Another case of political correctness run amok. Heaven forbid adults get to say what they want. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:50 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > One of the iPhone aps does the same thing. I think it is Dragon Naturally > speaking. > > I would guess that Google Voice auto bowdlerizes as well.. > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Tony B wrote: > > > Weird. We recently turned off the cuss filter on our forum, only to > > have one of our *moderators* begin to cuss like crazy. :( > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:44 PM, tjp wrote: > > > An interesting dilemma... > > > > > > "How Google's Nexus One censors cuss words" (and why) > > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10440115-71.html > > > > > > * > > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > > * > > > > > > -- > John Duncan Yoyo > ---o) > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
The Argus was my dad's good camera. I shot and developed a little bit in High School with it. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Mike Sloane wrote: > Yes, back in the '50s, I ran a lot of B&W pan film through a C3 and > developed it myself (I still have the negatives and prints somewhere...). > Then I went to a Kodak Retina, which was "advanced" by comparison. The next > was Pentax K1000 with a large bag full of lenses and accessories. When I > retired, the company gave me a Minolta "Supreme" (point & shoot + zoom) > which ended up taking the place of the Pentax 90% of the time. Now, of > course, I use a digital camera (currently a Kodak Z710, which is a little > bulky and slow, but has an excellent Schneider Varigon lens). That reminds > me that I still have a half exposed roll of film in the Minolta... > > I have not been at all tempted to spend Big Bucks on a DSLR with > interchangeable lenses. I am sure that, in the hands of a talented > professional, they take great pictures, but I suspect that most of them are > sold to yuppies who want to show off their disposable income. I also suspect > that many of those never get taken out of the box. > > Mike > > > Marcio wrote: > >> I started with the Argus C3. Anyone remember? >> >> Marcio >> >> > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Is THAT what burst mode is good for? I read about it when I got my camera but it seemed useless. Agreed on the ridiculous number of people getting DSLRs these days. This past christmas we had several more local housewives get them as gifts, and of course none of them even know how to resize a digital photo for posting, much less how to adjust a lens. They're trying to start a local camera club to teach them some things, but I don't hold out great hope. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Jeff Miles wrote: > I no longer use a SLR. And no longer being a professional I didn't buy > into a DSLR. Instead I have a Lumix FZ18. It has a "burst" mode which takes > 3-4 (don't remember which right now) shots. This works great for group > portraits. Oh, and the Lumix FZ18 has an 18x Leica optical zoom lens. Very > nice. Another reason I decided to bag going for interchangeable lenses on a > DSLR. I couldn't rationalize the cost on the very few instances I might need > something different. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Yes, back in the '50s, I ran a lot of B&W pan film through a C3 and developed it myself (I still have the negatives and prints somewhere...). Then I went to a Kodak Retina, which was "advanced" by comparison. The next was Pentax K1000 with a large bag full of lenses and accessories. When I retired, the company gave me a Minolta "Supreme" (point & shoot + zoom) which ended up taking the place of the Pentax 90% of the time. Now, of course, I use a digital camera (currently a Kodak Z710, which is a little bulky and slow, but has an excellent Schneider Varigon lens). That reminds me that I still have a half exposed roll of film in the Minolta... I have not been at all tempted to spend Big Bucks on a DSLR with interchangeable lenses. I am sure that, in the hands of a talented professional, they take great pictures, but I suspect that most of them are sold to yuppies who want to show off their disposable income. I also suspect that many of those never get taken out of the box. Mike Marcio wrote: I started with the Argus C3. Anyone remember? Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
I started with the Argus C3. Anyone remember? Marcio -Original Message- >From: Jeff Miles >Sent: Jan 24, 2010 9:44 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag > > Wow, bringing back memories now. My first SLR was (I think it was > called) a Practica. It had the screw mount interchangeable lenses. Talk about > impractical. But damn near indestructible. Much like my Nikon F3 was. You > could throw those cameras across the room, pick them up and they'd still work > just fine. > > >Jeff Miles >jmile...@charter.net > >Join my Mafia >http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 > >On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: > >> I have three. My dads old Exakta, my old Pentax ME Super, and my newer >> Minolta. >> >> My Pentax needs some work and those folks are hard to find. >> >> My sons got my dads Canon >> >> Stewart > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
Wow, bringing back memories now. My first SLR was (I think it was called) a Practica. It had the screw mount interchangeable lenses. Talk about impractical. But damn near indestructible. Much like my Nikon F3 was. You could throw those cameras across the room, pick them up and they'd still work just fine. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: > I have three. My dads old Exakta, my old Pentax ME Super, and my newer > Minolta. > > My Pentax needs some work and those folks are hard to find. > > My sons got my dads Canon > > Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
This isn't quite correct. I've been a professional photographer for almost 30 years. I retired from it professionally full time a few years back. Anyway, unless you lock up the mirror on your SLR you've got lag time. Many cheaper SLRs didn't have this capability. But the photographer did something strange, they got to know their camera. And as someone mentioned earlier, they learn to anticipate. I no longer use a SLR. And no longer being a professional I didn't buy into a DSLR. Instead I have a Lumix FZ18. It has a "burst" mode which takes 3-4 (don't remember which right now) shots. This works great for group portraits. Oh, and the Lumix FZ18 has an 18x Leica optical zoom lens. Very nice. Another reason I decided to bag going for interchangeable lenses on a DSLR. I couldn't rationalize the cost on the very few instances I might need something different. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:36 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: > Perhaps this is a moment to state that professional photographers remember - > and use! - film cameras, that display no shutter lag at all. Count me among > them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Better than a UPS
I saw a news story or show, can't remember which now, that showed a country, New Zealand, Iceland or someplace like that, who've determined to go totally green when it comes to electric cars. Instead of "gas" stations they have battery stations. The country requires that the batteries be standardized? I don't remember exactly how it works. But instead of stopping and recharging your battery, you swap out your battery with a fresh one. Much like you'd swap your propane tank for your back yard barbecue. I think this is a great idea. You're only there long enough to swap batteries. Hopefully that only takes as long as it would take you to fill your tank anyway. Probably would create jobs as well. Teenagers running back and forth swapping out batterie Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 19, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: > At 08:36 PM 1/19/2010, Art Clemons wrote: >> The truth is that we need some method of rapid charging said batteries on >> the go. Ten minutes charging for let's say 200 minutes of driving would be >> reasonable presently (not much longer than filling up with gasoline), but we >> as a nation don't have the electrical distribution for either battery >> exchange or fast charging, leaving electric cars as something for local >> commuting. > > But if the electric car is only good for local computing, it then must be (in > most cases) economic as an _additional_ car, not as a replacement for a car > currently owned. > > Liquid fuels aren't going to go away for a long time yet. > > Fred Holmes > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: Damned if you do; damned if you don't
One of the iPhone aps does the same thing. I think it is Dragon Naturally speaking. I would guess that Google Voice auto bowdlerizes as well.. On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Tony B wrote: > Weird. We recently turned off the cuss filter on our forum, only to > have one of our *moderators* begin to cuss like crazy. :( > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:44 PM, tjp wrote: > > An interesting dilemma... > > > > "How Google's Nexus One censors cuss words" (and why) > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10440115-71.html > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
