Re: [CGUYS] New south wales law allows all computers on a network to be searched
That is the only logical conclusion, if their term networked is not otherwise defined. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/06/2182021.htm snip Doesn't this mean if they get one warrant for a computer connected to the net, any computer in the entire country on the net is subject? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New south wales law allows all computers on a network to be searched
Why, yes it does. The Bush fascists here would have thought of it first, but I guess it must be assumed they're already doing it, so they don't care. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:24 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/06/2182021.htm From the article: The proposed laws would allow police to search computers networked to those listed on a search warrant. Police could also seize computer hard drives and memory sticks for up to seven days. Police Minister David Campbell says police are currently only able to search computer hardware found on a premises named in a search warrant. From that snippet it not only sounds as if they can search computers on local networks, as in, in the same office space for example but also any computers networked anywhere. Doesn't this mean if they get one warrant for a computer connected to the net, any computer in the entire country on the net is subject? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New south wales law allows all computers on a network to be searched
Might want to look up fascists before you toss it around like a joke at a party. Just a thought. Mike On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why, yes it does. The Bush fascists here would have thought of it first, but I guess it must be assumed they're already doing it, so they don't care. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:24 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/06/2182021.htm From the article: The proposed laws would allow police to search computers networked to those listed on a search warrant. Police could also seize computer hard drives and memory sticks for up to seven days. Police Minister David Campbell says police are currently only able to search computer hardware found on a premises named in a search warrant. From that snippet it not only sounds as if they can search computers on local networks, as in, in the same office space for example but also any computers networked anywhere. Doesn't this mean if they get one warrant for a computer connected to the net, any computer in the entire country on the net is subject? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New south wales law allows all computers on a network to be searched
Merriam-webster definition: 1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition 2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control early instances of army fascism and brutality J. W. Aldridge does not seem to me to be tou\o tough a shoe to fit. At 02:04 PM 3/6/2008, you wrote: Might want to look up fascists before you toss it around like a joke at a party. Just a thought. Mike On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why, yes it does. The Bush fascists here would have thought of it first, but I guess it must be assumed they're already doing it, so they don't care. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:24 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/06/2182021.htm From the article: The proposed laws would allow police to search computers networked to those listed on a search warrant. Police could also seize computer hard drives and memory sticks for up to seven days. Police Minister David Campbell says police are currently only able to search computer hardware found on a premises named in a search warrant. From that snippet it not only sounds as if they can search computers on local networks, as in, in the same office space for example but also any computers networked anywhere. Doesn't this mean if they get one warrant for a computer connected to the net, any computer in the entire country on the net is subject? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New south wales law allows all computers on a network to be searched
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fascist fascist: a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views. *You* might want to look it up before accusing _me_ of cracking a party joke about the Bush regime. It may have had a different meaning in the past, but in a living language word meanings change all the time. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:04 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might want to look up fascists before you toss it around like a joke at a party. Just a thought. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New south wales law allows all computers on a network to be searched
That is a definition left up to the user's choice then, since the user will define who is dictatorial or who's views are extreme and right- wing. By making this defense it strikes me that you are in the Humpty Dumpty class of linguists. 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.' 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.' On Mar 6, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Tony B wrote: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fascist fascist: a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views. *You* might want to look it up before accusing _me_ of cracking a party joke about the Bush regime. It may have had a different meaning in the past, but in a living language word meanings change all the time. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:04 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might want to look up fascists before you toss it around like a joke at a party. Just a thought. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New south wales law allows all computers on a network to be searched
Wow. I thought that getting rid of the Howard government broke the CIA's 30+ year grip on Australia's government. I was hopeful--but mistaken. Too bad. Snyder, Mark (IT Civilian) [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: That is the only logical conclusion, if their term networked is not otherwise defined. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/06/2182021.htm snip Doesn't this mean if they get one warrant for a computer connected to the net, any computer in the entire country on the net is subject? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New south wales law allows all computers on a network to be searched
They get the kangaroos to hide cameras in their pouches? On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. I thought that getting rid of the Howard government broke the CIA's 30+ year grip on Australia's government. I was hopeful--but mistaken. Too bad. Snyder, Mark (IT Civilian) [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: That is the only logical conclusion, if their term networked is not otherwise defined. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/06/2182021.htm snip Doesn't this mean if they get one warrant for a computer connected to the net, any computer in the entire country on the net is subject? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
